Re: [silk] More on invisibility cloaks

2010-07-23 Thread Bharath Chari

On Friday 23 July 2010 11:29 AM, Vinayak Hegde wrote:

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
  

http://www.gizmag.com/invisibility-cloak-made-of-glass/15796



I don't buy it. I will believe it when I don't see it

  
Aaahhh.. I feel a delicious headache coming on. Visions of a celebrated 
cat spinning/not spinning in its grave come to mind.


Bharath


[silk] Gifts vs Choices

2010-07-23 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Very interesting way of putting it, from Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.

http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S27/52/51O99/index.xml

We are What We Choose
Remarks by Jeff Bezos, as delivered to the Class of 2010
Baccalaureate
May 30, 2010

As a kid, I spent my summers with my grandparents on their ranch in
Texas. I helped fix windmills, vaccinate cattle, and do other chores.
We also watched soap operas every afternoon, especially Days of our
Lives. My grandparents belonged to a Caravan Club, a group of
Airstream trailer owners who travel together around the U.S. and
Canada. And every few summers, we'd join the caravan. We'd hitch up
the Airstream trailer to my grandfather's car, and off we'd go, in a
line with 300 other Airstream adventurers. I loved and worshipped my
grandparents and I really looked forward to these trips. On one
particular trip, I was about 10 years old. I was rolling around in the
big bench seat in the back of the car. My grandfather was driving. And
my grandmother had the passenger seat. She smoked throughout these
trips, and I hated the smell.

At that age, I'd take any excuse to make estimates and do minor
arithmetic. I'd calculate our gas mileage -- figure out useless
statistics on things like grocery spending. I'd been hearing an ad
campaign about smoking. I can't remember the details, but basically
the ad said, every puff of a cigarette takes some number of minutes
off of your life: I think it might have been two minutes per puff. At
any rate, I decided to do the math for my grandmother. I estimated the
number of cigarettes per days, estimated the number of puffs per
cigarette and so on. When I was satisfied that I'd come up with a
reasonable number, I poked my head into the front of the car, tapped
my grandmother on the shoulder, and proudly proclaimed, At two
minutes per puff, you've taken nine years off your life!

I have a vivid memory of what happened, and it was not what I
expected. I expected to be applauded for my cleverness and arithmetic
skills. Jeff, you're so smart. You had to have made some tricky
estimates, figure out the number of minutes in a year and do some
division. That's not what happened. Instead, my grandmother burst
into tears. I sat in the backseat and did not know what to do. While
my grandmother sat crying, my grandfather, who had been driving in
silence, pulled over onto the shoulder of the highway. He got out of
the car and came around and opened my door and waited for me to
follow. Was I in trouble? My grandfather was a highly intelligent,
quiet man. He had never said a harsh word to me, and maybe this was to
be the first time? Or maybe he would ask that I get back in the car
and apologize to my grandmother. I had no experience in this realm
with my grandparents and no way to gauge what the consequences might
be. We stopped beside the trailer. My grandfather looked at me, and
after a bit of silence, he gently and calmly said, Jeff, one day
you'll understand that it's harder to be kind than clever.

What I want to talk to you about today is the difference between gifts
and choices. Cleverness is a gift, kindness is a choice. Gifts are
easy -- they're given after all. Choices can be hard. You can seduce
yourself with your gifts if you're not careful, and if you do, it'll
probably be to the detriment of your choices.

This is a group with many gifts. I'm sure one of your gifts is the
gift of a smart and capable brain. I'm confident that's the case
because admission is competitive and if there weren't some signs that
you're clever, the dean of admission wouldn't have let you in.

Your smarts will come in handy because you will travel in a land of
marvels. We humans -- plodding as we are -- will astonish ourselves.
We'll invent ways to generate clean energy and a lot of it. Atom by
atom, we'll assemble tiny machines that will enter cell walls and make
repairs. This month comes the extraordinary but also inevitable news
that we've synthesized life. In the coming years, we'll not only
synthesize it, but we'll engineer it to specifications. I believe
you'll even see us understand the human brain. Jules Verne, Mark
Twain, Galileo, Newton -- all the curious from the ages would have
wanted to be alive most of all right now. As a civilization, we will
have so many gifts, just as you as individuals have so many individual
gifts as you sit before me.

How will you use these gifts? And will you take pride in your gifts or
pride in your choices?

I got the idea to start Amazon 16 years ago. I came across the fact
that Web usage was growing at 2,300 percent per year. I'd never seen
or heard of anything that grew that fast, and the idea of building an
online bookstore with millions of titles -- something that simply
couldn't exist in the physical world -- was very exciting to me. I had
just turned 30 years old, and I'd been married for a year. I told my
wife MacKenzie that I wanted to quit my job and go do this crazy thing
that probably wouldn't work since most 

Re: [silk] Gifts vs Choices

2010-07-23 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
Thanks.
But why did his grandmother start crying?

AB

On 23 July 2010 12:15, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Very interesting way of putting it, from Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos.

 http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S27/52/51O99/index.xml

 We are What We Choose
 Remarks by Jeff Bezos, as delivered to the Class of 2010
 Baccalaureate
 May 30, 2010

 As a kid, I spent my summers with my grandparents on their ranch in
 Texas. I helped fix windmills, vaccinate cattle, and do other chores.
 We also watched soap operas every afternoon, especially Days of our
 Lives. My grandparents belonged to a Caravan Club, a group of
 Airstream trailer owners who travel together around the U.S. and
 Canada. And every few summers, we'd join the caravan. We'd hitch up
 the Airstream trailer to my grandfather's car, and off we'd go, in a
 line with 300 other Airstream adventurers. I loved and worshipped my
 grandparents and I really looked forward to these trips. On one
 particular trip, I was about 10 years old. I was rolling around in the
 big bench seat in the back of the car. My grandfather was driving. And
 my grandmother had the passenger seat. She smoked throughout these
 trips, and I hated the smell.

 At that age, I'd take any excuse to make estimates and do minor
 arithmetic. I'd calculate our gas mileage -- figure out useless
 statistics on things like grocery spending. I'd been hearing an ad
 campaign about smoking. I can't remember the details, but basically
 the ad said, every puff of a cigarette takes some number of minutes
 off of your life: I think it might have been two minutes per puff. At
 any rate, I decided to do the math for my grandmother. I estimated the
 number of cigarettes per days, estimated the number of puffs per
 cigarette and so on. When I was satisfied that I'd come up with a
 reasonable number, I poked my head into the front of the car, tapped
 my grandmother on the shoulder, and proudly proclaimed, At two
 minutes per puff, you've taken nine years off your life!

 I have a vivid memory of what happened, and it was not what I
 expected. I expected to be applauded for my cleverness and arithmetic
 skills. Jeff, you're so smart. You had to have made some tricky
 estimates, figure out the number of minutes in a year and do some
 division. That's not what happened. Instead, my grandmother burst
 into tears. I sat in the backseat and did not know what to do. While
 my grandmother sat crying, my grandfather, who had been driving in
 silence, pulled over onto the shoulder of the highway. He got out of
 the car and came around and opened my door and waited for me to
 follow. Was I in trouble? My grandfather was a highly intelligent,
 quiet man. He had never said a harsh word to me, and maybe this was to
 be the first time? Or maybe he would ask that I get back in the car
 and apologize to my grandmother. I had no experience in this realm
 with my grandparents and no way to gauge what the consequences might
 be. We stopped beside the trailer. My grandfather looked at me, and
 after a bit of silence, he gently and calmly said, Jeff, one day
 you'll understand that it's harder to be kind than clever.

 What I want to talk to you about today is the difference between gifts
 and choices. Cleverness is a gift, kindness is a choice. Gifts are
 easy -- they're given after all. Choices can be hard. You can seduce
 yourself with your gifts if you're not careful, and if you do, it'll
 probably be to the detriment of your choices.

 This is a group with many gifts. I'm sure one of your gifts is the
 gift of a smart and capable brain. I'm confident that's the case
 because admission is competitive and if there weren't some signs that
 you're clever, the dean of admission wouldn't have let you in.

 Your smarts will come in handy because you will travel in a land of
 marvels. We humans -- plodding as we are -- will astonish ourselves.
 We'll invent ways to generate clean energy and a lot of it. Atom by
 atom, we'll assemble tiny machines that will enter cell walls and make
 repairs. This month comes the extraordinary but also inevitable news
 that we've synthesized life. In the coming years, we'll not only
 synthesize it, but we'll engineer it to specifications. I believe
 you'll even see us understand the human brain. Jules Verne, Mark
 Twain, Galileo, Newton -- all the curious from the ages would have
 wanted to be alive most of all right now. As a civilization, we will
 have so many gifts, just as you as individuals have so many individual
 gifts as you sit before me.

 How will you use these gifts? And will you take pride in your gifts or
 pride in your choices?

 I got the idea to start Amazon 16 years ago. I came across the fact
 that Web usage was growing at 2,300 percent per year. I'd never seen
 or heard of anything that grew that fast, and the idea of building an
 online bookstore with millions of titles -- something that simply
 couldn't exist in the physical world -- was very exciting to 

Re: [silk] Gifts vs Choices

2010-07-23 Thread Charles Haynes
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:56 PM, J. Alfred Prufrock
another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks.
 But why did his grandmother start crying?

Are you serious?

Because she knew smoking was bad for her health, she knew it would
kill her, that she really wanted to quit and would if she could, but
she couldn't. And now, her grandson was pointing out to her that she
was a failure and a bad example. Essentially her grandson had just
told her that she was doing something really stupid, and she knew it
was true but couldn't change.

-- Charles



[silk] UPS power consumption and battery charging

2010-07-23 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
Hi.

Does anyone here know how to calculate approximately how much power an
online/double-converting/sine wave UPS consumes from the mains? I guess
that, if it has to keep N 12V batteries charged, the most power it can
consume is (a bit higher than, depending on efficiency) N*12V*c, where
c is the maximum charging current. Am I missing anything?

(For my 1KVA online UPS, which has 3 65AH/12V batteries and charges them
at up to 6A, I speculate that the maximum power used is 6*3*12=216W, and
when the charger is floating to keep the batteries charged, the power
use is pretty much negligible.)

Second, can anyone comment on the advisability of charging SLA (sealed
lead acid) batteries at currents of =0.1C (i.e. 10% of their rated Ah
capacity or more)? My UPS vendor says they've had problems with current
that high, and the battery FAQ says 0.1C for SLAs, but battery vendors
seem to recommend 10-20% even for SLAs. Does this differ significantly
for VRLA batteries?

Third, can anyone explain in detail the internals of a constant-voltage
battery charger? I understand the basic idea: provide as much current as
needed to maintain the voltage across the terminals at the recommended
charging level, but I don't understand enough about how batteries work
to figure out what happens when you apply a higher current, or how the
voltage is measured or maintained.

Also, does anyone know how much I should expect to spend on a basic DC
ammeter (the nifty clamp-on hall effect ones, not an in-circuit one),
preferably in India?

-- ams



Re: [silk] Gifts vs Choices

2010-07-23 Thread Dave Long


Le 23 juil. 10 à 09:49, silklist-requ...@lists.hserus.net a écrit :

At
any rate, I decided to do the math for my grandmother. I estimated the
number of cigarettes per days, estimated the number of puffs per
cigarette and so on. When I was satisfied that I'd come up with a
reasonable number, I poked my head into the front of the car, tapped
my grandmother on the shoulder, and proudly proclaimed, At two
minutes per puff, you've taken nine years off your life!


interesting that this quick estimate agrees with both (a) cursory  
googling for current estimates of effect of smoking on life  
expectancy, and (b) country song lyrics.  I doubt Hank Jr was ever  
published in the JAMA, but fwiw :


Well I think I'll play the jukebox and light up another cigarette.
They say for every puff of that loving smoke you get another minute  
closer to death.

Well I smoke two or three packs a day and my arithmetic's not too sound
But I know I'm getting hours closer to that cold, cold ground.

-Dave