Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
Aargh! Think of those driving around in Ford Figos! bonobashi From: Giancarlo Livraghi g...@gandalf.it To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query ashok listmans...@gmail.com wrote (about blasphemy declining in Italy): Are you sure? A couple of years ago i was fishing in the north east .. and everyone of the men (without exception) used a variation of 'dio cane' or 'dio porco' or 'dio maiale'... the creative ones would mix some bizarre toilet or sexual allegory with blasphemy e.g. 'la stronza della madonna'. I also noticed that these expressions were generally the monopoly of men ...and when the women were around it would change to a disguised form ... I didn't mean to say that traditional blasphemies have totally disappeared - but they are definitely declining. It isn't surprising that fishermen in the north east are continuing with some oldfashioned jargon, especially when they are disappointed. Also... some disguised forms have a way of surviving, such as Maremma maiala (instead of Madonna being called pig) used mainly by people who live (or used to live) in Maremma. One of the peculiarities of the current trend is that women are frequently using male-oriented sexual expressions. For instance, while cunt in English or con in French means stupid, figa in Italian means attractive - now used by women as often as men and even turned into figo to define a good-looking male. And there are lots of other such examples. Giancarlo
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
Indrajit Gupta wrote: Aargh! Think of those driving around in Ford Figos! That's remarkable. Silly me, I didn't know. As far as I can tell nobody in Italy, so far, has discovered that such a car actually exists. And apparently nobody in India knows that there is a place where its name has a peculiar meaning. Maybe a few Figos could be sold here as a collector's item. There are, of course, several other examples of words and names having different meanings in different places. Such as escort being used in Italy (sometimes also elsewhere) as an euphemism for hooker. Ignoring the fact that it has other meanings in English - including a Ford car. It goes to show how unglobalized we are. Giancarlo
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
At this point... I have a question. What is Figo supposed to mean in Indian-automotive English? I shall be grateful for an explanation. Giancarlo
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
Just cute italian word I suspect --Original Message-- From: Giancarlo Livraghi Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Sent: Apr 15, 2012 17:29 At this point... I have a question. What is Figo supposed to mean in Indian-automotive English? I shall be grateful for an explanation. Giancarlo -- srs (blackberry)
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
I don't know if Ford meant it to mean anything, or just picked a 'cute Italian word'. What the car is can be explained rather more easily. A small light peppy hatchback, very affordable, yet pleasant to drive, not too powerful, sufficient for city traffic but also not entirely unsuitable for medium length journeys (300 kms? 500 kms?) on Indian highways of startlingly different quality. I imagine from the very few times that I have driven it that it would be a 'light-weight' version of my old Fiat Palio. bonobashi From: Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Just cute italian word I suspect --Original Message-- From: Giancarlo Livraghi Sender: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Sent: Apr 15, 2012 17:29 At this point... I have a question. What is Figo supposed to mean in Indian-automotive English? I shall be grateful for an explanation. Giancarlo -- srs (blackberry)
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:13 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: mleccha parayan (pariah) hijda napunsak lifafa chamcha lota loser twit dick baboon insufferable bore (or other word) pea-brain blithering idiot blabbering nincompoop ass licker pile of dog poop shit eater limp dick curry-breath Gunga Din Uncle Tom nigger Paki Adding some local ones to SS's list... Loafer Porikki Badava baddi maga (spl mention as its literal translation is son of interest(financially)) --Venkat
[silk] in London
Hello London Silkers, I am coming up to the city tomorrow (Monday, 16th April) for a shoot. I'll probably be there through the week. Quick meet possible? Tuesday works best for me, or Friday evening. C -- http://about.me/chandrachoodan +447594553053
Re: [silk] in London
Tuesday sound good to me too ;) On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello London Silkers, I am coming up to the city tomorrow (Monday, 16th April) for a shoot. I'll probably be there through the week. Quick meet possible? Tuesday works best for me, or Friday evening. C -- http://about.me/chandrachoodan +447594553053
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
On Sunday 15 Apr 2012 10:41:22 pm Venkat Mangudi - Silk wrote: On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:13 PM, ss cybers...@gmail.com wrote: mleccha parayan (pariah) hijda napunsak lifafa chamcha lota loser twit dick baboon insufferable bore (or other word) pea-brain blithering idiot blabbering nincompoop ass licker pile of dog poop shit eater limp dick curry-breath Gunga Din Uncle Tom nigger Paki Adding some local ones to SS's list... Loafer Porikki Badava baddi maga (spl mention as its literal translation is son of interest(financially)) --Venkat I forgot Cretin Baddi maga could mean son of prostitute. Also there are smart insults that one can get out of self help books. One that I like, but have never used is I'm not as stupid as you look shiv
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
On Monday 16 Apr 2012 8:14:13 am Ashwin Kumar wrote: bosudi - is another one I think bosudi=bhonsdi=c*nt=chooth=phuddi
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
Baddi maga could mean son of prostitute. HIjo de puta (lit. son of a whore but meaning approximately the same as son of a bitch in english) is a very common Spanish curse. -- Charles
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
More references to Westerns? SRS would be thrilled. I remember hijo de puta from JT Edson and Sudden. --Original Message-- From: Charles Haynes Sender: silklist-bounces+thewall=gmail@lists.hserus.net To: silklist@lists.hserus.net ReplyTo: silklist@lists.hserus.net Subject: Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query Sent: Apr 16, 2012 10:30 AM Baddi maga could mean son of prostitute. HIjo de puta (lit. son of a whore but meaning approximately the same as son of a bitch in english) is a very common Spanish curse. -- Charles Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
thew...@gmail.com [16 April 2012 10:42]: More references to Westerns? SRS would be thrilled. I remember hijo de puta from JT Edson and Sudden. Swearing in Mexican? Look no farther than Tuco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29kCbliw97A srs
Re: [silk] in London
On 16 Apr 2012, at 02:26, Anish Mohammed anish.moham...@gmail.com wrote: Tuesday sound good to me too ;) On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:18 AM, Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan chandrachoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello London Silkers, I am coming up to the city tomorrow (Monday, 16th April) for a shoot. I'll probably be there through the week. Quick meet possible? Tuesday works best for me, or Friday evening. C Tuesday's good -- http://about.me/chandrachoodan +447594553053
Re: [silk] Sociolinguistic query
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: thew...@gmail.com [16 April 2012 10:42]: More references to Westerns? SRS would be thrilled. I remember hijo de puta from JT Edson and Sudden. Swearing in Mexican? Look no farther than Tuco - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29kCbliw97A I grew up in (or just next to) the barrio, I don't need to watch videos to learn how to swear in spanish. -- Charles