Re: [silk] Good God!

2012-06-10 Thread Charles Haynes
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 7:27 AM, Dibyo gdi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 9 June 2012 05:10, Bharath Chari ch...@arachnis.com wrote:

 About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's
 guidance;

 Does anyone else think that this is statistic that is both hilarious and
 scary?

How can facts be either hilarious or scary?

Thought provoking, definitely. There are quite a few scientists who
also believe in God, given that, it seems like an understandable
accommodation to make.

-- Charles



Re: [silk] Good God!

2012-06-10 Thread Giancarlo Livraghi

 Does anyone else think that this
 is both hilarious and scary?

My perception, fwiw, is that it's depressing rather than hilarious. 
There are also several other matters in which prejudice and unfounded or 
warped perceptions stand in the way of science, knowledge and 
understanding .


One of the three questions in the Gallup survey is ambiguous - i.e. some 
people may believe that there is some sort of god behind the whole 
development of the universe, including the evolution of life. As a 
matter of faith, that's unquestionable - and it can coexist with a 
scientifically meaningful perception of evolution. But, even so, the 
overall picture is distressing.


Is anyone aware of any  such studies in other parts of the world?

Giancarlo




Re: [silk] Good God!

2012-06-10 Thread Venkat Mangudi - Silk
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Charles Haynes
charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote:

 How can facts be either hilarious or scary?


Why not? It is a fact that the climate change is affecting our lives. And
it is scary, isn't it? It is a fact that we forget that we're a mere speck
in this universe, and think no end of ourselves. I find it hilarious. Jus'
saying...

--Venkat


Re: [silk] Good God!

2012-06-10 Thread Bharath Chari

On Saturday 09 June 2012 03:10 AM, John Sundman wrote:

On Jun 8, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Bharath Chari wrote:


http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx

PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view 
that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 
10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans 
is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the 
question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with 
God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.


I live here and I had no idea it was so bad (even though my novel-in-progress is called 
Creation Science, and I've been studying up on this craziness).

Although 3/4 of the USA is retrograde nuts, there are still tens of millions of 
sane American people. If you associate with them, mostly, you tend to lose 
sight of what a small minority you are.

Overall, however, that's a very depressing article.

Let me depress you further:

http://www.michaelnugent.com/best/americas-top-two-elected-atheists/

Americans elect a lot of public officials – over half a million, from 
the President down to school district level. If atheists and other 
nonbelievers were represented fairly, you would expect about 50 in the 
US Congress and another 50,000 at State and local level.


In 2007, the Secular Coalition for America tried to find them. They 
found only five. Three were very local officials: a school board 
president, a school committee member and a town meeting member. And the 
two most senior were both in their seventies, much closer to the end 
than the start of their political careers.




Re: [silk] Good God!

2012-06-10 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 10 June 2012 17:17, Bharath Chari ch...@arachnis.com wrote:
 If atheists and other nonbelievers
 were represented fairly, you would expect about 50 in the US Congress and
 another 50,000 at State and local level.

 In 2007, the Secular Coalition for America tried to find them. They found
 only five.

I suspect many politically ambitious American atheists realise this
and take care to have true-Christian credentials before they start
running for office.

Ram



[silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread Eugen Leitl

15 g of powdered Bih/Bhut Jolokia is here. It actually smells
nasty/musty. I suspect it's stale. Anyone smelled fresh dried Bhut Jolokia?
Does it smell nice/wholesome, when fresh?

P.S. Will try to extract the oleoresin when I have time



Re: [silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread mark seiden
are you gearing up to make methamphetamine
or c4?


On Jun 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:

 
 15 g of powdered Bih/Bhut Jolokia is here. It actually smells
 nasty/musty. I suspect it's stale. Anyone smelled fresh dried Bhut Jolokia?
 Does it smell nice/wholesome, when fresh?
 
 P.S. Will try to extract the oleoresin when I have time
 




Re: [silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:36:39AM -0700, mark seiden wrote:
 are you gearing up to make methamphetamine
 or c4?

Been there, done that. No, this is just for shits and giggles.

 
 
 On Jun 10, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 
  
  15 g of powdered Bih/Bhut Jolokia is here. It actually smells
  nasty/musty. I suspect it's stale. Anyone smelled fresh dried Bhut Jolokia?
  Does it smell nice/wholesome, when fresh?
  
  P.S. Will try to extract the oleoresin when I have time
  
 
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Re: [silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 11 June 2012 00:47, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
 Been there, done that. No, this is just for shits and giggles.

I can vouch for the first part.

Ram



Re: [silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:

 15 g of powdered Bih/Bhut Jolokia is here. It actually smells
 nasty/musty. I suspect it's stale. Anyone smelled fresh dried Bhut Jolokia?
 Does it smell nice/wholesome, when fresh?

The fresh chili smells and tastes sweet, with notes of apple. The burn
kicks in relatively slowly, about 5 seconds in.

 P.S. Will try to extract the oleoresin when I have time

If you want to use it in food then pure capsaicin is boring. Only
heat, no taste.

Udhay

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Re: [silk] got my chilies

2012-06-10 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 11-Jun-12 7:18 AM, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

 15 g of powdered Bih/Bhut Jolokia is here. It actually smells
 nasty/musty. I suspect it's stale. Anyone smelled fresh dried Bhut Jolokia?
 Does it smell nice/wholesome, when fresh?
 
 The fresh chili smells and tastes sweet, with notes of apple. The burn
 kicks in relatively slowly, about 5 seconds in.

Oh, you said fresh dried chili. The (relatively) fresh dried chili in
my freezer doesn't smell of much, but that might be because it is
frozen. I sun-dried it and stashed it in the freezer.

Udhay

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