[silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Udhay Shankar N
So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.

So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?

Udhay

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf

-- 
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Tim Bray
I use the Kindle app on a 7 Android tablet and, since I started, I read
more each month than in any of the 5 or 10 previous years.  One big reason
is the instant gratification, see a notice about an interesting book in a
magazine or blog or whatever and POP, you have it.

I think that:
- the future of paper is restricted to antiquarian books and things that
require high-quality graphics, coffee-table to textbook
- the pricing of ebooks is insane
- the production values of ebooks are horrible, if something needs graphics
or maps or math to work, get paper

Some recent gleanings in https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/What/Arts/Books/


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
 device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
 booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
 books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.

 So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
 of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?

 Udhay

 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf

 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))




Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Pradeep Kapur
It has happened with me too and all these days I was wondering if it
happened to others too or just to me. I attribute it more to the kid with a
new toy phenomenon though.

Best wishes,

Pradeep Kapur
+91-94370-28400




On 30 December 2013 10:55, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 I use the Kindle app on a 7 Android tablet and, since I started, I read
 more each month than in any of the 5 or 10 previous years.  One big reason
 is the instant gratification, see a notice about an interesting book in a
 magazine or blog or whatever and POP, you have it.

 I think that:
 - the future of paper is restricted to antiquarian books and things that
 require high-quality graphics, coffee-table to textbook
 - the pricing of ebooks is insane
 - the production values of ebooks are horrible, if something needs graphics
 or maps or math to work, get paper

 Some recent gleanings in https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/What/Arts/Books/


 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

  So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
  device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
  booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
  books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.
 
  So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
  of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?
 
  Udhay
 
  [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf
 
  --
  ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 
 



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Sumant Srivathsan

 So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means of
 reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?


Short answer, yes. Slightly longer answer: yes, but eventually it became
like any other book that I ignore.

But I don't see how Sapir-Whorf is relevant here, because there's no
linguistic impact on reading. But perhaps I misread you, and what you meant
is that there is a medium-based relativity induced by moving from a book to
a Kindle. I'm inclined to disagree at this point, because (a) there isn't
enough data to indicate this, (b) whatever data exists is corrupted because
people still read through both deadtree and electronic media, and (c) the
data is not being gathered at a steady state, so the relativity is skewed
by the state of experience.

The last bit interests me: in my case, reading behaviour peaked, and then
dropped, though the steady state is higher overall than before. However, my
reading of deadtree books has grown, not the Kindle content, which still
remains at about a book a month. I find this interesting because the
single-sample data point is counter-intuitive, but not surprising. Curious
to see what the larger pattern might be.

-- 
Sumant Srivathsan
http://sumants.blogspot.com


Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I have always been a voracious reader - but a lot of my reading is pulp, 
classic and out of print pulp when and where I can get it.  This gettability 
varies between second hand bookstores (hole in the wall real ones as well as 
amazon sellers) and ebooks of one type or the other.

So I won't say my reading patterns have changed all that much after using the 
kindle for a long time (on my ipad and my laptop). Any huge spike in Udhay's 
reading after buying a kindle is more attributable to hey, new toy! right 
now. I guess he'll have to use it for a few months before things settle into a 
repeatable pattern.

--srs (iPad)

 On 30-Dec-2013, at 10:55, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 
 I use the Kindle app on a 7 Android tablet and, since I started, I read
 more each month than in any of the 5 or 10 previous years.  One big reason
 is the instant gratification, see a notice about an interesting book in a
 magazine or blog or whatever and POP, you have it.
 
 I think that:
 - the future of paper is restricted to antiquarian books and things that
 require high-quality graphics, coffee-table to textbook
 - the pricing of ebooks is insane
 - the production values of ebooks are horrible, if something needs graphics
 or maps or math to work, get paper
 
 Some recent gleanings in https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/What/Arts/Books/
 
 
 On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
 device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
 booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
 books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.
 
 So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
 of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?
 
 Udhay
 
 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf
 
 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 
 



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Ingrid
On 30 December 2013 10:39, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
 device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
 booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
 books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.

 So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
 of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?

 Udhay

 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf

 --
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))


The only significant impact of e-books on my reading has been a lighter
load while travelling. I still prefer dead-tree versions wherever possible.

Ingrid Srinath
@ingridsrinath


Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Mahesh Murthy
I stated on the Kindle but then found much lower prices on Google Play
Newsstand - and magazines too in full living color.

I've subscribed to several magazines on there of late - and have begun
enjoying being notified if new issues being automatically downloaded.
On 29-Dec-2013 9:37 pm, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 30 December 2013 10:39, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

  So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
  device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
  booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
  books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.
 
  So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
  of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?
 
  Udhay
 
  [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf
 
  --
  ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
 

 The only significant impact of e-books on my reading has been a lighter
 load while travelling. I still prefer dead-tree versions wherever possible.

 Ingrid Srinath
 @ingridsrinath



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Charles Haynes
I convert all my books to ePub format and host them on a Linode instance so
that I have them all anywhere I have internet connectivity. Given our
peripatetic lifestyle it's a convenient way to access our library (though
honestly the whole library fits on on 16gb micro-sd card)

-- Charles


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 I stated on the Kindle but then found much lower prices on Google Play
 Newsstand - and magazines too in full living color.

 I've subscribed to several magazines on there of late - and have begun
 enjoying being notified if new issues being automatically downloaded.
 On 29-Dec-2013 9:37 pm, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 30 December 2013 10:39, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 
   So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
   device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
   booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
   books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.
  
   So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
   of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?
  
   Udhay
  
   [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf
  
   --
   ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
  
 
  The only significant impact of e-books on my reading has been a lighter
  load while travelling. I still prefer dead-tree versions wherever
 possible.
 
  Ingrid Srinath
  @ingridsrinath
 



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Tim Bray
BTW, a useful fact for those just getting into this: If you’re reading
kindle books, Amazon lets you have a large number of clients, over 10.  So
if you trust your family enough to share your Amazon password, the
buying/using unit for a book is, effectively, the household, which is as it
should be.  -T


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Charles Haynes
charles.hay...@gmail.comwrote:

 I convert all my books to ePub format and host them on a Linode instance so
 that I have them all anywhere I have internet connectivity. Given our
 peripatetic lifestyle it's a convenient way to access our library (though
 honestly the whole library fits on on 16gb micro-sd card)

 -- Charles


 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I stated on the Kindle but then found much lower prices on Google Play
  Newsstand - and magazines too in full living color.
 
  I've subscribed to several magazines on there of late - and have begun
  enjoying being notified if new issues being automatically downloaded.
  On 29-Dec-2013 9:37 pm, Ingrid ingrid.srin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   On 30 December 2013 10:39, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
  
So I got myself a Kindle. And whether it is the novelty or the
device-specific aspects (doesn't need ambient light, sufficiently
booklike that one can read sprawled in bed, etc) - I have consumed 3
books in 3 days, more than in the preceding 3 months.
   
So - have you folks noticed your reading habits change with the means
of reading? Is this a special case of the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis [1]?
   
Udhay
   
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir_Whorf
   
--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
   
  
   The only significant impact of e-books on my reading has been a lighter
   load while travelling. I still prefer dead-tree versions wherever
  possible.
  
   Ingrid Srinath
   @ingridsrinath
  
 



Re: [silk] have your reading habits changed?

2013-12-29 Thread Thejaswi Udupa
My reading more than doubled this past year. Nothing to do with a Kindle
(I'm still firmly in the deadtree camp), but a lifestyle change where I
decided to ditch private transport and depend on public transport
entirely--adds to my commute time, but also adds to my reading-time.