Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread ss
On Wednesday 02 Feb 2011 1:28:08 pm another.prufr...@gmail.com wrote:
 To go farther into history - a fast digitizing option that works on
  cassette tapes?
 
This is the single most painful thing I have ever done in my life. I used a 
portable (Walkman) player to play the cassette to record 60 MB MP3s in which 
all the songs were joined up. Audiograbber was the program I used and it has 
the option of splitting songs if there is a break in sound for a period of 
time that you can specify - but the process was undependable. Hence each MP3 
had one side of a tape - but heck I could turn it on for recording and go away 
for half an hour and often managed one or two cassettes a day with 2-3 visits 
to a desktop dedicated to this job over 90 minutes or so.

I later sat and used sound editors like Goldwave or Adobe Audition to split 
the files into individual songs and saved them - renaming them with an 
appropriate program. 

CDs can be ripped straight to MP3s in the background and all you need to do is 
to remember to put one in when you sit down in front of your machine and 
repeat that as often as you can. I also manually digitised the 50 or so 
gramophone records I had.

Apart from this I converted about 200 hours of VHS tape into VCD quality and 
later DVD quality video and scanned 1500 transparencies and about 200 ancient 
B/W negatives.

I have a desktop dedicated to jobs such as this. 

PS the video below is a song I digitised from a cassette tape which was itself 
a copy of something I borrowed from a library in Bolton (England) - a rare one 
from The Who. As soon as I uploaded it YouTube informed me that the video had 
content that was probably copyrighted and the video would not be available in 
Germany. Sorry about that to all you folks in Germany :( 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYTTvqKb3aU


shiv



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:32:40AM +1100, Charles Haynes wrote:

 I like EAC because it is the best tool for lossless CD rips that I
 know of. None of the Linux tools were as good.

Still true? Can you rip to FLAC, too?

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Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread Charles Haynes
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:32:40AM +1100, Charles Haynes wrote:

 I like EAC because it is the best tool for lossless CD rips that I
 know of. None of the Linux tools were as good.

 Still true? Can you rip to FLAC, too?

As far as I know, but since it does everything I want I haven't been
motivated to keep current on the state of the art.

Yes, it will rip to FLAC, lossless AAC, and WAV. FLAC is what I use
for an archive format. It use LAME as an outboard MP3 encoder (if you
want MP3)

EAC is free as in beer.

-- Charles



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Is there no simple consumer-friendly solution that doesn't involve such
uber-hacking? :)


Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread Charles Haynes
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is there no simple consumer-friendly solution that doesn't involve such
 uber-hacking? :)

Of course there is, you can mail them to a service as mentioned
earlier. It's just not as cheap or as high a quality as a fanatic
would want.

But it's simple, and consumer friendly.

-- Charles



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-02 Thread Thaths
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there no simple consumer-friendly solution that doesn't involve such
 uber-hacking? :)

Consumer-friendly, eh? Then forget my hire a teenager suggestion.

Thaths
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[silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread Mahesh Murthy
So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
reasonably high bit rate.

Not all at a go - but to keep doing a handful now and then.

Is there some sort of device with a hard drive and a CD player/ ripper where
I can simply play from the drive when needed (with remote, 5.1 out etc) and
on occasion slip a CD or a few dozen in and rip it fast - where some access
to Gracenotes or such ensures titles / song data is input automatically?
It'll be nice to have a drive in the TB range so DVDs can be digitized too
on the same system and accessible centrally in every room of the house etc.

One obvious answer might be to dedicate a laptop/computer to this and use
iTunes etc -  but it seems an inelegant solution - not enough ripping speed
and perhaps not enough HDD space plus I really don't care for a locked Apple
solutions like iTunes plus I am not sure it produces high quality sound - I
do have a reasonably good set of amp, speakers and TV

Any suggestions?

Regards

Mahesh


Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread Thaths
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
 reasonably high bit rate.

Your options:

Buy this hardware http://www.mfdigital.com/ripstation.html, rip and
then sell hardware on ebay..

Or, mail your CDs to http://www.musicshifter.com/ and get them to do
the job for you at $1 a CD.

Or, hire a teenager to do it (IIRC, you may already own one).

Thaths
-- 
Marge: Quick, somebody perform CPR!
Homer: Umm (singing) I see a bad moon rising.
Marge: That's CCR!
Homer: Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
Sudhakar Chandra                                    Slacker Without Borders



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread Charles Haynes
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
 reasonably high bit rate.
 Not all at a go - but to keep doing a handful now and then.
 Is there some sort of device with a hard drive and a CD player/ ripper where
...
 One obvious answer might be to dedicate a laptop/computer to this and use
 iTunes etc -  but it seems an inelegant solution - not enough ripping speed
 and perhaps not enough HDD space plus I really don't care for a locked Apple

I used a windows PC, Exact Audio Copy, and just did them manually as I
was doing other things. I saved them lossless and encoded them as MP3
at 192k VBR at the same time. Inelegant yes, but doing it while I was
sitting at the computer anyway it only took a month or two. I sped
things up a little bit by using two computers with two drives each.

I like EAC because it is the best tool for lossless CD rips that I
know of. None of the Linux tools were as good.

-- Charles



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:28 AM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
 reasonably high bit rate.
 Not all at a go - but to keep doing a handful now and then.

http://www.audiograbber.org/download.html worked well back in the day.
Nowadays even after buying the CDs, I used TPB to download the mp3
torrents. It's much easier than ripping the CDs.

-- Vinayak



Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread Tim Bray
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
 reasonably high bit rate.
 Not all at a go - but to keep doing a handful now and then.

I did a thousand or so in 2009 and wrote lots about the process:

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/03/02/The-Great-Music-Migration
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/03/21/More-Migration
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/06/12/Music-Migration-Done

I think our tastes and constraints are quite similar. -T

 Is there some sort of device with a hard drive and a CD player/ ripper where
 I can simply play from the drive when needed (with remote, 5.1 out etc) and
 on occasion slip a CD or a few dozen in and rip it fast - where some access
 to Gracenotes or such ensures titles / song data is input automatically?
 It'll be nice to have a drive in the TB range so DVDs can be digitized too
 on the same system and accessible centrally in every room of the house etc.
 One obvious answer might be to dedicate a laptop/computer to this and use
 iTunes etc -  but it seems an inelegant solution - not enough ripping speed
 and perhaps not enough HDD space plus I really don't care for a locked Apple
 solutions like iTunes plus I am not sure it produces high quality sound - I
 do have a reasonably good set of amp, speakers and TV
 Any suggestions?
 Regards
 Mahesh







Re: [silk] Any ideas on a digitiser / ripper - player for CDs?

2011-02-01 Thread another.prufr...@gmail.com
To go farther into history - a fast digitising option that works on cassette 
tapes?

Sent from my HTC

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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I have some 1,500 or so CDs and I'd like to digitize them and a
 reasonably high bit rate.
 Not all at a go - but to keep doing a handful now and then.

I did a thousand or so in 2009 and wrote lots about the process:

http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/03/02/The-Great-Music-Migration
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/03/21/More-Migration
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/06/12/Music-Migration-Done

I think our tastes and constraints are quite similar. -T

 Is there some sort of device with a hard drive and a CD player/ ripper where
 I can simply play from the drive when needed (with remote, 5.1 out etc) and
 on occasion slip a CD or a few dozen in and rip it fast - where some access
 to Gracenotes or such ensures titles / song data is input automatically?
 It'll be nice to have a drive in the TB range so DVDs can be digitized too
 on the same system and accessible centrally in every room of the house etc.
 One obvious answer might be to dedicate a laptop/computer to this and use
 iTunes etc -  but it seems an inelegant solution - not enough ripping speed
 and perhaps not enough HDD space plus I really don't care for a locked Apple
 solutions like iTunes plus I am not sure it produces high quality sound - I
 do have a reasonably good set of amp, speakers and TV
 Any suggestions?
 Regards
 Mahesh