Re: [silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-04 Thread Ramakrishna Reddy
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:
 Idly wondering, and I thought the folks here might have some insight:
 Does the alphabet used by any Indian language have the concept of
 upper and lower case? (for the purposes of this query, let us
 explicitly exclude the Roman alphabet)

Indic Scripts does not make a distinction of Upper and Lower Case. I.e
Writing systems which have its roots in Brahmic script. CJKV languages
do not make this
distinction too




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Re: [silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-04 Thread SS
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 07:21 +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
 Idly wondering, and I thought the folks here might have some insight:
 Does the alphabet used by any Indian language have the concept of
 upper and lower case? (for the purposes of this query, let us
 explicitly exclude the Roman alphabet) 

That is an interesting question and to my knowledge the answer is no. A
question that stems from this is Why on earth does the Roman alphabet
come in two forms?. Greek seems to have this quirk.

shiv




[silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-03 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Idly wondering, and I thought the folks here might have some insight:
Does the alphabet used by any Indian language have the concept of
upper and lower case? (for the purposes of this query, let us
explicitly exclude the Roman alphabet)

Udhay

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[silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-03 Thread Sudhakar Chandra
Till recently I used to work on a project developing a beautiful,
harmonized font family for all the world's written languages
https://code.google.com/p/noto/ (that have been encoded in Unicode).

Among the major Indic languages/scripts that are encoded in Unicode, none
have the concept of upper and lower cases encoded in the standard.

The Brahmi script from which Indic scripts are descended was also uni-case.
 Brahmi is said to be descended from Phoenician via Aramaic which both are
also uni-case.

While we are on the subject... for some odd reason, some Tamil magazines
tend to use regular text for headings and italicized text for bodies of
articles. But there is considerable variation between magazines and I have
never been able to find out how this convention came about.

Thaths

On Wed Jun 04 2014 at 7:22:05 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote:

 Idly wondering, and I thought the folks here might have some insight:
 Does the alphabet used by any Indian language have the concept of
 upper and lower case? (for the purposes of this query, let us
 explicitly exclude the Roman alphabet)

 Udhay

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Re: [silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-03 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Sudhakar Chandra tha...@gmail.com wrote:



 While we are on the subject... for some odd reason, some Tamil magazines
 tend to use regular text for headings and italicized text for bodies of
 articles. But there is considerable variation between magazines and I have
 never been able to find out how this convention came about.


​And on a related topic...I find that many north Indian language newspapers
and magazines stick to the numbers as written in that language, but Tamizh
(I don't know about other south Indian languages) magazines/newspapers
 have adopted Roman numerals for numbering the pages. Was this the practice
from the start? Were Tamizh numbers ever used in recent, living memory?


Re: [silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-03 Thread Sudhakar Chandra
On Wed Jun 04 2014 at 9:19:56 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote:

 And on a related topic...I find that many north Indian language newspapers
 and magazines stick to the numbers as written in that language, but Tamizh
 (I don't know about other south Indian languages) magazines/newspapers
  have adopted Roman numerals for numbering the pages. Was this the practice
 from the start? Were Tamizh numbers ever used in recent, living memory?



When I asked my parents about this recently, they said that while they were
taught the Tamil numerals in school, they never actually came across them
in day to day life going back to the 50's.

Not having memorized the Devanagari numerals, I personally hated
encountering them on bus signs and license plates in North India.

Thaths


Re: [silk] Linguistics query

2014-06-03 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Sudhakar Chandra tha...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed Jun 04 2014 at 9:19:56 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  And on a related topic...I find that many north Indian language
 newspapers
  and magazines stick to the numbers as written in that language, but
 Tamizh
  (I don't know about other south Indian languages) magazines/newspapers
   have adopted Roman numerals for numbering the pages. Was this the
 practice
  from the start? Were Tamizh numbers ever used in recent, living memory?
 


 When I asked my parents about this recently, they said that while they were
 taught the Tamil numerals in school, they never actually came across them
 in day to day life going back to the 50's.

 Not having memorized the Devanagari numerals, I personally hated
 encountering them on bus signs and license plates in North India.


 ​Which brings me to the question, when is sticking to one's language
protecting the language and culture, and when is it being reactionary?
When is adopting ​more commonly used conventions (eg Roman numerals) being
progressive and globalizing and when is it abandoning one's traditions?

Change may be a constant...but it is one of the most passion-stirring
processes for human beings!