Re: [silk] List etiquette

[James Bonilla]

Metta, goodwill, maitri - the only things that really matter.

WIth best wishes.
 - JB

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Venkat Mangudi - Silk <
s...@venkatmangudi.com> wrote:

> Only one rule here... Assume good will.
> On Sep 10, 2015 7:41 AM, "James Bonilla"  wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Can someone fill me on the finer points of etiquette on this List? I see
> a
> > bunch of people talking about not "top posting". Suresh just did that.
> >
> > Also, I am being moderated out on silklist. My messages are being
> blocked.
> > Ordinarily, I would have simply blocked one or two of the people
> involved.
> > But here it is Suresh Ramasubramanian himself. I don't wish to get into
> any
> > verbal brawls on the Internet. Why not have a nice discussion over at a
> > place where the rules are clearly posted?
> >
> > I will be posting all further comments regarding the "James Bonilla -
> > Introduction" on the Buddhist Debate Group facebook group, and not here.
> > There, the rules are clear. Here, nothing is clear.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >  - James
> >
>

Re: [silk] List etiquette

[Venkat Mangudi - Silk]

Only one rule here... Assume good will.
On Sep 10, 2015 7:41 AM, "James Bonilla"  wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> Can someone fill me on the finer points of etiquette on this List? I see a
> bunch of people talking about not "top posting". Suresh just did that.
>
> Also, I am being moderated out on silklist. My messages are being blocked.
> Ordinarily, I would have simply blocked one or two of the people involved.
> But here it is Suresh Ramasubramanian himself. I don't wish to get into any
> verbal brawls on the Internet. Why not have a nice discussion over at a
> place where the rules are clearly posted?
>
> I will be posting all further comments regarding the "James Bonilla -
> Introduction" on the Buddhist Debate Group facebook group, and not here.
> There, the rules are clear. Here, nothing is clear.
>
> Cheers!
>  - James
>

[silk] List etiquette

[James Bonilla]

Dear List,

Can someone fill me on the finer points of etiquette on this List? I see a
bunch of people talking about not "top posting". Suresh just did that.

Also, I am being moderated out on silklist. My messages are being blocked.
Ordinarily, I would have simply blocked one or two of the people involved.
But here it is Suresh Ramasubramanian himself. I don't wish to get into any
verbal brawls on the Internet. Why not have a nice discussion over at a
place where the rules are clearly posted?

I will be posting all further comments regarding the "James Bonilla -
Introduction" on the Buddhist Debate Group facebook group, and not here.
There, the rules are clear. Here, nothing is clear.

Cheers!
 - James

Re: [silk] List etiquette

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Which specific message would you say is being moderated out?  I host the list 
is all .. and haven’t set any filters, and nor has Udhay.  And what “Suresh 
Ramasubramanian ‘himself’”?  On silk, I’m just another member.

And I’m getting all these emails you’re sending the list.  I would suggest that 
you check if gmail is moderating you out, by checking your spam folder - or 
whether gmail is set up to not send you back copies of every email you send to 
a list.

Top posting is, like a preference in food or sex, more a matter of taste for 
some, and an article of faith for a few others who grew up reading usenet 
(well, as I did too, but my usenet reading days are fifteen years in the past, 
plenty of time to adopt such delightfully bad habits as top posting and full 
quoting in glorious full color html)

As for the buddhist debate group, wherever that is, I am not at all sure that I 
am qualified to debate Buddhism so you’ll excuse me if I don’t join that group.

—srs

> On 10-Sep-2015, at 7:41 AM, James Bonilla  wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> Can someone fill me on the finer points of etiquette on this List? I see a
> bunch of people talking about not "top posting". Suresh just did that.
> 
> Also, I am being moderated out on silklist. My messages are being blocked.
> Ordinarily, I would have simply blocked one or two of the people involved.
> But here it is Suresh Ramasubramanian himself. I don't wish to get into any
> verbal brawls on the Internet. Why not have a nice discussion over at a
> place where the rules are clearly posted?
> 
> I will be posting all further comments regarding the "James Bonilla -
> Introduction" on the Buddhist Debate Group facebook group, and not here.
> There, the rules are clear. Here, nothing is clear.
> 
> Cheers!
> - James

Re: [silk] List etiquette

[James Bonilla]

Comments below.

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian 
wrote:

> Which specific message would you say is being moderated out?  I host the
> list is all .. and haven’t set any filters, and nor has Udhay.  And what
> “Suresh Ramasubramanian ‘himself’”?  On silk, I’m just another member.
>
It was just Internet delays and GMail filtering/blocking. My apologies
because my Internet connection is quite poor.


>
> And I’m getting all these emails you’re sending the list.  I would suggest
> that you check if gmail is moderating you out, by checking your spam folder
> - or whether gmail is set up to not send you back copies of every email you
> send to a list.
>
> It was GMail's filtering.

> Top posting is, like a preference in food or sex, more a matter of taste
> for some, and an article of faith for a few others who grew up reading
> usenet (well, as I did too, but my usenet reading days are fifteen years in
> the past, plenty of time to adopt such delightfully bad habits as top
> posting and full quoting in glorious full color html)
>
> As for the buddhist debate group, wherever that is, I am not at all sure
> that I am qualified to debate Buddhism so you’ll excuse me if I don’t join
> that group.
>
We can debate anything there as long as it is even remotely related to
Buddhism. You can always make something be remotely linked to Buddhism. The
problem generally is the asymmetry of power e.g.
(1) when one person is an admin and another person is not, or
(2) when person is a long-time member (and therefore, "known" to everyone)
and another person is not

If you want to seriously discuss this, you should first remove the
asymmetry. For this, the Buddhist Debate Group would be ideal. Indeed, it
won't take you more than a few minutes to subscribe to that group as well
as to the Buddha Dharma Facebook group. Less time than it took for me to
type all this out.

Bottomline: with metta, thank you for stating the fact that you are not an
admin. (I was confused :) :) ) Now, I see that I am not being moderated
out. Thank you for letting me know.



 - James

>
> —srs
>
> > On 10-Sep-2015, at 7:41 AM, James Bonilla  wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > Can someone fill me on the finer points of etiquette on this List? I see
> a
> > bunch of people talking about not "top posting". Suresh just did that.
> >
> > Also, I am being moderated out on silklist. My messages are being
> blocked.
> > Ordinarily, I would have simply blocked one or two of the people
> involved.
> > But here it is Suresh Ramasubramanian himself. I don't wish to get into
> any
> > verbal brawls on the Internet. Why not have a nice discussion over at a
> > place where the rules are clearly posted?
> >
> > I will be posting all further comments regarding the "James Bonilla -
> > Introduction" on the Buddhist Debate Group facebook group, and not here.
> > There, the rules are clear. Here, nothing is clear.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > - James
>
>
>