Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
Biju Chacko said the following on 13/12/2007 13:32: legal redundancy. That sounds like a tautology. Ram
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On Dec 13, 2007 1:29 PM, Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In general you could just rent servers in several jurisdictions, and hook them up via UltraMonkey, or simple round-robin DNS. In general that is a good idea -- for technical redundancy as well as legal redundancy. -- b
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 03:02:11PM +0530, Biju Chacko wrote: In general that is a good idea -- for technical redundancy as well as legal redundancy. In case anyone needs a vserver or a real server in the Krautland jurisdiction, drop me a mail. In case the cause is worthy, I'll donate one for free. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
[silk] sanctions and online services
I have the following scenario, with no clear answer : Lets say a Govt. department in Country-X purchases online services from an American company (for e.g. Web hosting...). Country-X subsequently, for various reasons, falls under a US govt. black-list (for e.g. economic sanctions...). Will the American company providing the online services be obligated to shut down services immediately ? Any ideas / pointers ? ashok
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
ashok _ [13/12/07 01:31 +0300]: Will the American company providing the online services be obligated to shut down services immediately ? Google has previously done this in the case of Iran
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On Dec 13, 2007 2:02 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Google has previously done this in the case of Iran Is this something that just Google does or do other service providers also actively shut down services ? What options could be there for safer online service provision ... a scandinavian country ?
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On 12/12/07, ashok _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the following scenario, with no clear answer : Lets say a Govt. department in Country-X purchases online services from an American company (for e.g. Web hosting...). Country-X subsequently, for various reasons, falls under a US govt. black-list (for e.g. economic sanctions...). Will the American company providing the online services be obligated to shut down services immediately ? Any ideas / pointers ? As a US-based lawyer who sometimes deals in related questions, the answer is ... it depends. :) The applicable rules vary from country to country (although some of the rules may end up being the same), and they are available here: http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/ The extent of economic sanctions varies from country to country, and there are numerous exemptions that may or may not apply. (In general, I'm guessing the exemptions would be less likely to apply to government agencies in the embargoed country.) And, of course, negative publicity may end up being more of a motivating factor for the US company than any legal requirements. Dave, with the typical lawyer disclaimer that this e-mail is informational and nothing in this e-mail should be construed as legal advice, etc., etc.
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On Dec 13, 2007 2:16 AM, Dave Kumar wrote: http://www.treas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/ The extent of economic sanctions varies from country to country, and there are numerous exemptions that may or may not apply. (In general, I'm guessing the exemptions would be less likely to apply to government agencies in the embargoed country.) This is very helpful... thanks ! ashok
Re: [silk] sanctions and online services
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:16:21AM +0300, ashok _ wrote: What options could be there for safer online service provision ... a scandinavian country ? Have you tried http://www.metacolo.com/ ? In general you could just rent servers in several jurisdictions, and hook them up via UltraMonkey, or simple round-robin DNS. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a http://leitl.org __ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
