Re: [silk] Looking for some material on Linux

2007-06-28 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Deepak,

If you do get something, would you mind sharing it with me? I have been
looking for similar information for a little while now.

Venkat

Deepak Misra wrote:
 I am looking for some material on The importance of Linux in India.
 
 Content is basically market size potential etc and why it is important for
 IT and software vendors to focus on this segment - something on those lines
 
 I am in parallel doing google searches but have not got  exactly what I am
 looking for. Strangely the searches throw up 3-4 year old docs in the top
 and I am not sure of the integrity of the data. Obviously fine tuning the
 search would yield results but I am hoping that someone would have some
 material already
 
 If any one has a canned presentation/paper and willing to share it - please
 send me by email
 
 Thanks
 
 Deepak
 




Re: [silk] Freebase

2007-06-28 Thread Venkat Mangudi
I have 5 too... private mail please...

Venkat

Deepak Misra wrote:
 I have some too. let me know by email  if anyone wants some
 
 Deepak
 
 On 6/28/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some more freebase invites available. You know the drill - ask in
 private mail, please.

 Udhay

 This is a VERY interesting (note that it is still in alpha) attempt
 to leverage folksonomies on a grander scale than has yet been
 attempted.
 
 For those of you who want to explore -- I have 5 invites to give
 away. The first 5 silklisters who ask (in private mail, please) get
 them.
 
 Udhay
 
 http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/03/freebase_will_p_1.html


 -- 
 ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))



 




[silk] anyone needs freebase invites?

2007-06-28 Thread Eugen Leitl

Just got 5.

-- 
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ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org
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Re: [silk] The most annoying words on the web

2007-06-28 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 07:02:13AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:

 Explain? Is your IP being blocked by the IRC ops due to your being a 
 Tor exit node?

No. It is being blocked because it's a middleman node. Which shows
that IRC ops know shit about Tor.

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ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org
8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A  7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE



[silk] 90+ Online Photography Tools and Resources

2007-06-28 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Like it says - an enormous list of online photography resources. I 
guess the cameraheads here will find lots to play with in this list...


Udhay

http://mashable.com/2007/06/23/photography-toolbox/

90+ Online Photography Tools and Resources

Photos are everywhere on the web. From sharing with friends, to 
editing, printing, buying, selling, searching, remixing and free 
hosting, we've lined up a plethora of resources for photo fiends.

--
((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))





[silk] a nice history of fiat money

2007-06-28 Thread Eugen Leitl

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2007/06/why-does-fiat-money-seemingly-work.html

Why does fiat money seemingly work ?

written by Trotsky, edited by Mish

Imagine that you live on a small island mining the local salt mine, together
with Pete the fisherman and Tom the apple grower. You'd exchange your salt
for Pete's fishes and Tom's apples, while they would exchange fishes and
apples between them.

One day Pete says: Instead of fish, from now on I will give you pieces of
papyrus with numbers marked on them. (Papyrus grows in near unlimited
quantities nearby, to the obvious benefit of Pete). Pete continues One
papyrus mark will represent 1 fish or 5 apples or 2 bags of salt (equivalent
to current barter exchange rates). This will make it easier for us to trade
among ourselves . We won't have to lug fishes, apples and salt around all the
time. Instead, we simply present the papyrus for exchange on demand.

In short, Pete wants to modernize your little island economy by introducing
money - and he already has one of those $1 papyrus notes with him, which he's
eager to exchange for salt.

You'd laugh him out of the room, since you would realize that the papyrus per
se is not of any value. If you were all to agree on using the papyrus, its
value would rest on a promise alone - Pete's promise that papyrus he issues
is actually backed by fish. Since the stuff grows everywhere, he could easily
issue it by the bucket load. In fact, it's unlikely that any of the islanders
would ever come up with such an absurd idea.

More likely they would use another good for which there is an actual demand
(for instance, a rare type of sea-shell that is prized as an ornament and
only seldom found on the island) as their medium of exchange.

In short, a free market medium of exchange/store of value can only be
something with an already established demand. No worthless object would ever
emerge to function as money in a free market.

So how did it happen?

How did essentially worthless objects come into widespread acceptance as
money? To answer that question, we need to take a brief look at history.

Flashback: Rome 27 BC

Rome’s history of inflation and money debasement actually began with Cesar’s
successor Augustus, whereby his method was at least not a prima facie fraud.
He simply ordered the mines to overproduce silver in an attempt to finance
the empire that had grown greatly under Cesar and himself.

When this overproduction began to have inflationary effects, Augustus wisely
decided to cut back on the issuance of coins. This was the last time that a
Roman emperor attempted to honestly correct a monetary policy blunder, aside
from a brief flashing up of monetary rectitude under Aurelius some 280 years
later.

Under Augustus’ successors, things began to deteriorate fast. Claudius ,
Caligula and Nero embarked on enormous spending sprees that depleted Rome’s
treasury. It was Nero who first came up with the idea to actually debase
coins by reducing their silver content in AD 64 , and it all went downhill
from there.

It should be mentioned that Mark Anthony of Hollywood fame financed the army
he used in his fight against Octavian – then later Augustus – also with
debased coinage. These coins remained in circulation for a long time, obeying
Gresham’s Law – bad money drives good money from circulation.

Left: An AD 275 specimen of Aurelian’s Antonianus, 1 part silver to 20 parts
copper .

In AD 274 Aurelius entered the scene with a well-intentioned monetary reform,
which fixed the silver-copper content of the then most widely used coin (the
Antonianus)at 1:20 – however, just as soon as this reform was instituted, the
silver content resumed its inexorable decline.

Left: Emperor Diocletian the price fixer

In AD 301 Emperor Diocletian tried his hand at reform, this time by
instituting price controls, an idiocy repeated numerous times thereafter, in
spite of the incontrovertible evidence that it never works (Richard Nixon’s
ill-fated experiment being the most recent example) .

Naturally, those price controls accelerated Rome’s downfall as goods simply
began to disappear from the market place. Merchants began to hide their goods
rather than accept the edict to sell them at a loss. This is of course why
price controls are always doomed to failure.

One recurring feature of Rome’s long history of debasing its money was a
perennial trade deficit due to overconsumption. Does this sound vaguely
familiar?

The leap from clipping coins to outright fiat money

How was the leap from debasing coinage to outright fiat money accomplished?

There are two distinct intertwined historical developments that led
ultimately to the present system.

Goldsmiths become bankers

The idea of fractional reserve banking was first introduced by the
forerunners of our modern day banking system, the goldsmiths.

Goldsmiths were used as depositories for gold and silver, and the receipts
they issued for such deposits soon began to circulate as the first 

Re: [silk] The most annoying words on the web

2007-06-28 Thread Udhay Shankar N

Udhay Shankar N wrote [at 01:15 PM 6/25/2007] :


http://www.techtree.com/India/News/The_Webs_Ten_Most_Irritating_Words/551-81821-643.html

The Web's Ten Most Irritating Words
Techtree News Staff Email Print
Jun 24, 2007

Can you believe that the World Wide Web has actually spawned words 
that might make users want to pull at their hair in frustration?


Interesting - it appears I've been (along with various others) gamed. 
The whole survey was a plant - i.e., fake from the beginning.


Udhay

http://www.dashes.com/anil/2007/06/making-the-news.html

Making the News
June 25, 2007

The gist: A lighthearted unscientific poll that was created as a PR 
ploy for a tech company is quickly evolving into a real news story, 
being treated as fact by mainstream press. That evolution from 
marketing effort to established fact can have real impact on people 
who works in related fields. This phenomenon is worth examining 
because, while this fairly harmless example hasn't resulted in a lot 
of drama, it shows the pattern that underlies a lot of the drama that 
tends to pop up in web communities.


First, to begin with the disclaimers, I know a lot of the people 
involved in this story, either as acquaintances in the tech industry, 
or socially by running into them at various events. Second, I don't 
think anybody's done anything egregiously wrong here, I just think 
the end result is interesting, insightful and a little scary.


Here's the story: Last week, I got an unsolicited press release and 
pitch from a PR company that has sent me announcements for a few 
years. I get a lot of these pitches, though I never blog about them, 
and this particular PR company is fairly respectful so I don't mind 
much. (I'll omit mention of the PR company, though they're fairly 
easy to find if you're interested.)


Towards the beginning of the announcement was the following:

Folksonomy has been voted the word most likely to make 
web-users wince, shudder or want to bang your head on the key-board 
-- in a poll to mark the tenth birthday of the word weblog by 
finding the single most irksome new word to have been spawned by the Internet.


Folksonomy (a web classification system) out-pointed words 
including blog (an online journal), blogosphere (the collective 
name for all blogs), netiquette (Internet etiquette) and webinar 
(a web seminar) -- in a poll commissioned by the Lulu Blooker Prize 
(www.lulublookerprize.com), the world's first literary prize for 
blooks, alias books based on blogs.


A folksonomy -- a hybrid of folks and taxonomy -- is a 
system for classifying web content by tagging key words.


The press release was a fairly straightforward pitch for Lulu, one of 
the more popular services for printing books on demand. They were 
pretty clearly trying to get the word blook to be named one of the 
most annoying web words, as an oblique promo for their sponsorship of 
the Blooker prize. (Blooker, of course, is itself a take on the 
Booker Prize.)


The poll mentioned in the pitch was run by YouGov in the U.K., though 
I could find no mention of their methodology. As has been noted by 
prominent bloggers like Jason Kottke, the press release and poll were 
picked up by some mainstream news organizations, first starting with 
second-tier small-town papers and moving up to established outlets 
like Entrepreneur, Salon, and the Seattle Times, as you can see in a 
Google News search.


Now, when I got the email, the first person I thought of was Thomas 
Vander Wal, who's a friend of mine and whom I'd just been hanging out 
with at a conference earlier last week. Thomas coined the word 
folksonomy (see his history of the word's origin) and has some part 
of his professional identity associated with the word.


Fortunately, Thomas' career is far too well-established to really be 
negatively affected by someone saying a word he created is annoying. 
In fact, I'm sure Thomas has considered folksonomy to be somewhat 
annoying from time to time himself. But instead of coining a phrase, 
he could easily have made a product or service that was being 
maligned in passing as part of a company's promotional efforts. And 
that potential is what makes this story interesting. I emailed Thomas 
late last week to get his opinions on the press release and its 
migration to mainstream media outlets.


I have seen a few variations of this and yet to see any actual 
source, until you pointed this press release. I was amazed that 2,000 
people in Britain knew of the word and knew it well enough to hate 
it, but the poll being British has only been in 2/3rds of the news 
articles I read. I was not surprised with the term folksonomy being 
hated as most people read the continually bad overview of the term on 
Wikipedia (after pushing from academics I finally posted the concise 
definition and story about the creation of the term - 
http://vanderwal.net/folksonomy.html - as they were tired of being 
corrected that their 

Re: [silk] Are menus and recipes intellectual property?

2007-06-28 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda

On 27-Jun-07, at 10:20 PM, Thaths wrote:


I believe
jace has been to the restaurant and can attest to the goodness of the
food there.


Only ate there once and it was good.

Tried finding accommodation there on my way through Bangkok last  
week, but the darned airport phones only allowed long distance calls,  
and the visa-on-arrival adventure took all my energy, so didn't.





Re: [silk] Looking for some material on Linux

2007-06-28 Thread Venkatesh Hariharan

I have a blog on Linux and open standards at www.osindia.blogspot.com. Hard
numbers on Linux market share is difficult to come by but IDC is now
planning to start tracking it. If I come across some info, I'll send it
across.

Venky

On 6/28/07, Venkat Mangudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Deepak,

If you do get something, would you mind sharing it with me? I have been
looking for similar information for a little while now.

Venkat

Deepak Misra wrote:
 I am looking for some material on The importance of Linux in India.

 Content is basically market size potential etc and why it is important
for
 IT and software vendors to focus on this segment - something on those
lines

 I am in parallel doing google searches but have not got  exactly what I
am
 looking for. Strangely the searches throw up 3-4 year old docs in the
top
 and I am not sure of the integrity of the data. Obviously fine tuning
the
 search would yield results but I am hoping that someone would have some
 material already

 If any one has a canned presentation/paper and willing to share it -
please
 send me by email

 Thanks

 Deepak






Re: [silk] Freebase

2007-06-28 Thread Jeremy Bornstein
On Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 07:07:11AM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
 Some more freebase invites available. You know the drill - ask in
 private mail, please.

Same here!

-Jeremy


-- 
jeremy bornstein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Like so many uplifting stories, this one begins with cruelty and heartbreak.
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 http://jeremy.org/


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Re: [silk] QotD

2007-06-28 Thread Deepa Mohan

On 6/28/07, Vinayak Hegde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/28/07, Udhay Shankar N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?
 - Frank Zappa, in response to Tipper Gore's allegations that music
 incites people towards
 deviant behavior, or influences their behavior in general.

Ah This reminds me of an Ogden Nash poem from school

This Is Going To Hurt Just A Little Bit
-

One thing I like less than most things is sitting in a dentist chair
with my mouth wide open.
And that I will never have to do it again is a hope that I am against
hope hopen.

Because some tortures are physical and some are mental,
But the one that is both is dental.
It is hard to be self-possessed
With your jaw digging into your chest.

So hard to retain your calm
When your fingernails are making serious alterations in your life line
or love line or some other important line in your palm;

So hard to give your usual effect of cheery benignity
When you know your position is one of the two or three in life most
lacking in dignity.

And your mouth is like a section of road that is being worked on.
And it is all cluttered up with stone crushers and concrete mixers and
drills and steam rollers and there isn't a nerve in your head thatyou
aren't being irked on.

Oh, some people are unfortunate enough to be strung up by thumbs.
And others have things done to their gums,
And your teeth are supposed to be being polished,
But you have reason to believe they are being demolished.

And the circumstance that adds most to your terror
Is that it's all done with a mirror,
Because the dentist may be a bear, or as the Romans used to say, only
they were referring to a feminine bear when they said it, an ursa,
But all the same how can you be sure when he takes his crowbar in one
hand and mirror in the other he won't get mixed up, the way you do
when you try to tie a bow tie with the aid of a mirror, and forget
that left is right and vice versa?

And then at last he says That will be all; but it isn't because he
then coats your mouth from cellar to roof
With something that I suspect is generally used to put a shine on a
horse's hoof.

And you totter to your feet and think. Well it's all over now and
afterall it was only this once.
And he says come back in three monce.

And this, O Fate, is I think the most vicious circle that thou ever sentest,
That Man has to go continually to the dentist to keep his teeth in
good condition
when the chief reason he wants his teeth in good condition
is so that he won't have to go to the dentist.

-- Vinayak


Thank you, Vinayak, for that lovely revisit of one of my favourites!
And though month is supposed to be one of the words in the English
language without a rhyme, Nash did his best with both the singular and
the his version of the plural of the word.

Which school did you go to, which taught Ogden Nash? Can't imagine
CBSE putting it into their syllabus...


Deepa.







Re: [silk] QotD

2007-06-28 Thread Raul Siddhartha

Ah This reminds me of an Ogden Nash poem from school


Personally, I think The Octopus is unmatched :-)

--
Tell me, O Octopus, I begs
Is those things arms, or is they legs?
I marvel at thee, Octopus;
If I were thou, I'd call me Us.

- The Octopus, Ogden Nash
--

Raul



[silk] Bugs in Intel dual core processors?

2007-06-28 Thread shiv sastry
Lifted from elsewhere

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118296441702631
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40567



Re: [silk] QotD

2007-06-28 Thread Deepa Mohan

Is those things arms, or is they legs?


That reminds me of a piece of verse that I read in Arnold Silcock's
Verse and Worse:

Long before I was Solomon and you were the Queen of Sheba
We lived life togther..as one amoeba.
..
Anon came division, fission, and divorce...
A lonely pseudopodium, I wandered on my course.

(The first two lines are not verbatim, but I have never forgotten the last two.)

That book is one of my favourites...

Deepa.



On 6/28/07, Raul Siddhartha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah This reminds me of an Ogden Nash poem from school

Personally, I think The Octopus is unmatched :-)

--
Tell me, O Octopus, I begs
Is those things arms, or is they legs?
I marvel at thee, Octopus;
If I were thou, I'd call me Us.

 - The Octopus, Ogden Nash
--

Raul






Re: [silk] Bugs in Intel dual core processors?

2007-06-28 Thread Vinayak Hegde

On 6/28/07, shiv sastry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lifted from elsewhere

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118296441702631
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40567


There have been bugs before on Intel Processors. The most
famous of them being the FDIV bug[1]. Another well known
one is the F00F bug[2]. But the number of flaws on
Intel Core 2 is quite a few. Looks like this is going the
way of the Itanium chip.

-- Vinayak

References:
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
2. http://www.x86.org/errata/dec97/f00fbug.htm