CSsilver coins for throat infection
Well, this has all been very interesting, but I still don't know if holding a coin of acceptable purity in one's mouth would be of any benefit to a throat susceptible to infections. Come on, guys and gals, those of you with indepth knowledge of these matters give out... please Y J ___ Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, fir, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. attachment: IMSTP.gif
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:14:53 -0800 (PST), mars larz pp...@yahoo.com wrote: i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion You can go into any coin shop and get silver rounds that are .999+ fine silver for about (right now) $5.50 US each. Most cities of 50,000 and above have at least one of these stores. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give. Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:39:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CSsilver coins/reply On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:14:53 -0800 (PST), mars larz pp...@yahoo.com wrote: i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion You can go into any coin shop and get silver rounds that are .999+ fine silver for about (right now) $5.50 US each. Most cities of 50,000 and above have at least one of these stores. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com . attachment: sg-0.gifattachment: IMSTP.gif
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
On 3 Dec 2002 at 0:47, Nicole K wrote: I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give. It is not pure silver and you probably would not absorb signifcant amounts of silver. However, if you have mercury amalgum fillings, the combination might liberate significant amounts of mercury due to battery action,in the form of methyl mercury, which might be hazardous to your health. Steve -- Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com Latest Update: Cydonia in 3-D http://www.anomalous-images.com/Odyssey/Cydonia_3-d.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSNebulizer
All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? Yes it would. You need a nebuliser that uses air or ultrasonic vibration. Ivan -Original Message- From: Roy Thompson [mailto:dra...@ezwv.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 10:49 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNebulizer Okay. I have a question for anyone that can explain... Perhaps this is a silly question. How exactly does a nebulizer work? How does it create the mist that is inhaled into the lungs? I was out shopping for Christmas over the weekend and thought I found an effective and cheap device to get CS into the lungs. Now I think that in my excitement and haste I screwed up by overlooking a simple insight. The device I bought it one of those things that creates the mist (steam) by heating up the liquid. Now I kind of have the feeling I paid 10 bucks for something to distill all the CS out of my already distilled water. :) Is this what is happening to my silver in my steam device? It now makes sense to me that I am probably defeating my purpose. I am sure the silver falls into the catagory of heavies when it comes to heating the water up to a boiling point. All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSsilver coins for throat infection
I doubt if you would liberate much in the way of silver ions Y J. Better just to gargle or sip CS. Ivan -Original Message- From: Nicole K [mailto:e...@canada.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 9:35 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSsilver coins for throat infection Well, this has all been very interesting, but I still don't know if holding a coin of acceptable purity in one's mouth would be of any benefit to a throat susceptible to infections. Come on, guys and gals, those of you with indepth knowledge of these matters, give out... please Y J -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHyperthermia
Only that is used quite successfully as part of a cancer treatment protocol. Also used to treat 'chronic inflammatory conditions such as ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease Rheumatic conditions Bronchial asthma Chronic and recurrent viral infections Conditions requiring detoxification'. What condition are you trying to treat with this? Ivan. -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 7:21 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHyperthermia HiIf anyone has any knowledge of hyperthermia.and its useor any success stories...I'd appreciate hearing what you have to say.I've been studying it and I'm also making feeble attempts to practice it...so far I've had some good.and some interesting effects from the heatthanks in advance.Robb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHmmm
Wouldn't happen to have a cheap nebulizer to trade for a face misting machine, would you? :) Thanks for the information! All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? Yes it would. You need a nebuliser that uses air or ultrasonic vibration. Ivan
RE: CSSacred areas and healing clays
That would be Rotorua, Jonathan. I believe there is at least one mud bath spa, much in the tradition of the Russian. Yes, it is a magical place, 30 minutes drive from where I was born... Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 7:22 p.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: CSSacred areas and healing clays A few years ago I visited Hamilton, NZ, and went to an area there which is sacred to the Maori -- a mesmerizing place of bubbling pools of molten clay, steam spouts, and so on. I could have stayed a lifetime. Pure magic. But the tour guides dragged me away. I would not be at all surprised if this area has healing clays. I have a strong sensitivity to energy fields, and this place had quite a charge to it. The name does not come to mine -- Remoura? Ivan, do you know? JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSA unique CS applicator?
http://www.klearsen.com/dermasep.html The DermaSeptic is a unique electronic skin care device. It delivers natural, antimicrobial silver ions deep into the skin so the infection can be terminated before it breaks out into an open sore. ** How do you think the cs is getting under the skin? Chuck I don't pretend to understand the universe--it's much bigger than I am --Einstein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CStuberculosis
Ah yes! Cayenne pepper causes the vascular system to dilate, a full body flush. Brings blood to the surface capillaries allowing for better CS absorption and distribution. Another great idea. Thanks Jason. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jason Eaton [mailto:ey...@lvcm.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 5:53 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStuberculosis Thanks, Stan. J. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW: Water Distillers
Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best for the money had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$ When you use one why the filters they try to sell you I would think all you would need is the distiller All thoughts would be appreciated on a Distiller and filters Bob
RE: CSA unique CS applicator?
Nice find...nice units. Looks like some of the systems use skin penetrating electrodes. The DermaSeptic I guess has a central silver electrode (anode) surrounded by a circular cathode or visa versa Antiseptic treatments can be administered at pre-programmed intervals or (as a pre-treatment) whenever the transcutaneous device is accessed. It is this control of ion density, through active penetration of tissue that Klearsen Corporation is offering in its Active Antisepsis T systems. For wound care applications, Klearsen plans to use the same integrated circuit controller that is used in the DermaSeptic to drive a disposable bandage suitable for large area wound protection and antisepsis. This bandage could find ready application to burns, Herpes Zoster (shingles) and eczema conditions which are too large to be conveniently treated by the DermaSeptic. Surprised if they aren't infringing Becker's patent here. Patent Application 20020161323 gives an in depth description on how this might be achieved. Check out the nasal cleaner...perfect for CS? Ivan -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 11:26 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSA unique CS applicator? http://www.klearsen.com/dermasep.html The DermaSeptic is a unique electronic skin care device. It delivers natural, antimicrobial silver ions deep into the skin so the infection can be terminated before it breaks out into an open sore. ** How do you think the cs is getting under the skin? Chuck I don't pretend to understand the universe--it's much bigger than I am --Einstein -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMineral Water
Mt Clemens Mi used to be known for its healing mineral water Alas No more , they use to have it in local motels. Such a waste, I hope they bring it back. Bob -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 5:21 AM To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSSacred areas and healing clays That would be Rotorua, Jonathan. I believe there is at least one mud bath spa, much in the tradition of the Russian. Yes, it is a magical place, 30 minutes drive from where I was born... Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 7:22 p.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: CSSacred areas and healing clays A few years ago I visited Hamilton, NZ, and went to an area there which is sacred to the Maori -- a mesmerizing place of bubbling pools of molten clay, steam spouts, and so on. I could have stayed a lifetime. Pure magic. But the tour guides dragged me away. I would not be at all surprised if this area has healing clays. I have a strong sensitivity to energy fields, and this place had quite a charge to it. The name does not come to mine -- Remoura? Ivan, do you know? JBB -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW: MYSTIQUE ULTRASONIC NEBULIZER, A PORTABLE NEBULIZER THAT BEAT S NEBULIZER COMPRE
Here is a good and cheap source for nebulizers I have both the ultrasonic and the hand held The ultr sonic is 84.95 but requires hot water under the medication bowel The hand held is 58.95 (I like this the best) I got the option for 12 volt DC use (for auto and boat) any questions you can send direct medwi...@tacom.army.mil I got these when I researched prices Last year we had a problem with mold growing in basement (at work) This cause me a lot of problems till OSHA was called in Bob http://www.portablenebs.com/
CSDermaseptic....
Chuck: It is called iontophoresis: http://www.silvermedicine.org/silveriondeliver.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/robertobecker.html Jason - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 2:25 AM Subject: CSA unique CS applicator? http://www.klearsen.com/dermasep.html The DermaSeptic is a unique electronic skin care device. It delivers natural, antimicrobial silver ions deep into the skin so the infection can be terminated before it breaks out into an open sore.
RE: CSNebulizer Giant Room Size
The Ultra Sonic I have requires hot water under Medication bowel I just thought of some thing I have an attachment for my Shop Vac for removing dry plaster while sanding. It is a 5 gallon bucket with a lid You fill bucket 1/2 to 2/3 up with water and put on lid You have to connections on lid one that is above water is attached to Shop Vac The connection that is below water is connected to a long hose attached to a sanding block. The theory is to trap the dry wall dust in the water It is not perfect but does work pretty good What if you put a cs full strength or a mix in bucket in theory thus sound good. You could have a nebulizer to do a whole room, could work for an infant. The only question in my mind is the CS laden air going through the blower field (charged field) You could I suppose use the Shop Vac as a blower and blow in where you normally have suction In this last way the charged field is before the CS in to the air Naturally you would have to clean the Shop Vac good and with most they say to remove filter when using just for water You could use this application to make any size you want using different sizes of Vacuums or air sources The water will clean and trap most all air born particles The normal use for dry wall dust, which is very fine and plugs a Shop Vac real quick Bob -Original Message- From: Ivan Anderson [mailto:i...@win.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNebulizer All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? Yes it would. You need a nebuliser that uses air or ultrasonic vibration. Ivan -Original Message- From: Roy Thompson [mailto:dra...@ezwv.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 10:49 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNebulizer Okay. I have a question for anyone that can explain... Perhaps this is a silly question. How exactly does a nebulizer work? How does it create the mist that is inhaled into the lungs? I was out shopping for Christmas over the weekend and thought I found an effective and cheap device to get CS into the lungs. Now I think that in my excitement and haste I screwed up by overlooking a simple insight. The device I bought it one of those things that creates the mist (steam) by heating up the liquid. Now I kind of have the feeling I paid 10 bucks for something to distill all the CS out of my already distilled water. :) Is this what is happening to my silver in my steam device? It now makes sense to me that I am probably defeating my purpose. I am sure the silver falls into the catagory of heavies when it comes to heating the water up to a boiling point. All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins for throat infection
Why don't you just make or buy some good Colloidal Silver, gargle swish, and swallow it and be well? Or you could put the penny in your ear. I don't know what that does but my Grandfather always said some people did that and for me not to put it in my mouth ! Don't try to reinvent the wheel. Tel Dewey, AZ Nicole K wrote: Well, this has all been very interesting, but I still don't know if holding a coin of acceptable purity in one's mouth would be of any benefit to a throat susceptible to infections.Come on, guys and gals, those of you with indepth knowledge of these matters, give out... please Y J___Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, fir, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
Then try a pacifier Tel Dewey, AZ Nicole K wrote: I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give.Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. ---Original Message--- From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:39:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CS>silver coins/reply On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:14:53 -0800 (PST), mars larz pp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion You can go into any coin shop and get "silver rounds" that are .999+ fine silver for about (right now) $5.50 US each. Most cities of 50,000 and above have at least one of these stores. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com> . IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
Re: CSNebulizer
Roy Thompson wrote: Okay. I have a question for anyone that can explain... Perhaps this is a silly question. How exactly does a nebulizer work? How does it create the mist that is inhaled into the lungs? Via a Venturi. Same as the old time perfume bottles with the squeeze bulb. I was out shopping for Christmas over the weekend and thought I found an effective and cheap device to get CS into the lungs. Now I think that in my excitement and haste I screwed up by overlooking a simple insight. The device I bought it one of those things that creates the mist (steam) by heating up the liquid. Now I kind of have the feeling I paid 10 bucks for something to distill all the CS out of my already distilled water. :) Is this what is happening to my silver in my steam device? Yep. It now makes sense to me that I am probably defeating my purpose. I am sure the silver falls into the catagory of heavies when it comes to heating the water up to a boiling point. All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? Yep. Marshall
Re: CSHyperthermia
I recall reading somewhere of it being used to reduce HIV count as well. Of course everyone practices it when they get a fever. : Marshall Ivan Anderson wrote: Only that is used quite successfully as part of a cancer treatment protocol. Also used to treat 'chronic inflammatory conditions such as ulcerative colitis and Crohn's disease Rheumatic conditions Bronchial asthma Chronic and recurrent viral infections Conditions requiring detoxification'. What condition are you trying to treat with this? Ivan. -Original Message- From: Robb Allen [mailto:rube2...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 7:21 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHyperthermia HiIf anyone has any knowledge of hyperthermia.and its useor any success stories...I'd appreciate hearing what you have to say.I've been studying it and I'm also making feeble attempts to practice it...so far I've had some good.and some interesting effects from the heatthanks in advance.Robb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSalgae
I don't believe I've seen CS actually kill algae yet. Or clarify alginated water either. It will, however kill all beneficial bacteria that your pond supports, so whatever you do, don't put it back into the pond (if your pond supports other life forms). Algae is technically a plant. In order to kill algae, all nutrients that specifically feed plants must be eliminated since it IS technically a plant, it requires photosynthesis to thrive. Without light nutrients, it will die. You can kill it using UV light specifically you can filter it out, or use a non-toxic polymer settler to sink it or smother it with non-toxic dyes, but for the health of the pond, it's best to just try to minimize it's presence. Unless of course it's a decorative pond with no living creatures in it. Then whatever chemicals you use wouldn't really matter. If your pond is fairly natural, exposed to sunlight, unfiltered, close to a lawn (fertilizer) or has fish/bird waste in it, algae will grow. No matter what. The presense of algae is mostly unsightly, not harmful. It's a sign that the water is fairly clean or in the process of being cleaned. It's a nuisance when it blooms, but for the most part, it is serving some purpose in it's own little niche. Personally, in my koi pond, I used to just settle it out with a polymer a couple of times between cleanings and make sure that no fertilizer ever got close to the edge. Also, if you have fish, don't feed them in the winter. Since most of the bacteria in a natural pond cease activity in cooler temps, the waste uneaten food in colder water (under 55 degrees) will overwhelm the biologics (bacteria) that digest it the result will be MORE fertilizer for the algae. Balance is the key. Heather -Original Message- From: Margaret Braithwaite [mailto:sunsh...@justinternet.com.au] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSalgae Hi everyone, Yesterday I removed 100ml of water from our outdoor pond, which was very green with algae. To this I added 30ml of CS. I fully expected that the water would have been perfectly clear today, but it is still exactly the same. Any ideas? Also the right side of my face swelled up (presumably sinus) So I irrigated my nasal passages, and ears, also gargled every couple of hours. The swelling went down within a couple of hours. Brilliant !! Best wishes to all Margaret B --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002
Re: CSalgae
Heather King (LCA) wrote: I don't believe I've seen CS actually kill algae yet. Or clarify alginated water either. I have many times. Pour it in the cat bowl that is full of green water, and watched it clear up in less than a minute. Then other times it doesn't. It must depend on the specie of algae whether or not it will do that or not, although it all looks the same to me. However copper is much better as an algaecide. It will, however kill all beneficial bacteria that your pond supports, so whatever you do, don't put it back into the pond (if your pond supports other life forms). Algae is technically a plant. In order to kill algae, all nutrients that specifically feed plants must be eliminated since it IS technically a plant, it requires photosynthesis to thrive. Without light nutrients, it will die. You can kill it using UV light specifically you can filter it out, or use a non-toxic polymer settler to sink it or smother it with non-toxic dyes, but for the health of the pond, it's best to just try to minimize it's presence. Unless of course it's a decorative pond with no living creatures in it. Then whatever chemicals you use wouldn't really matter. If your pond is fairly natural, exposed to sunlight, unfiltered, close to a lawn (fertilizer) or has fish/bird waste in it, algae will grow. No matter what. The presense of algae is mostly unsightly, not harmful. It's a sign that the water is fairly clean or in the process of being cleaned. It's a nuisance when it blooms, but for the most part, it is serving some purpose in it's own little niche. Personally, in my koi pond, I used to just settle it out with a polymer a couple of times between cleanings and make sure that no fertilizer ever got close to the edge. Also, if you have fish, don't feed them in the winter. Since most of the bacteria in a natural pond cease activity in cooler temps, the waste uneaten food in colder water (under 55 degrees) will overwhelm the biologics (bacteria) that digest it the result will be MORE fertilizer for the algae. Balance is the key. Also try water snails. They eat algae. Marshall Heather -Original Message- From: Margaret Braithwaite [mailto:sunsh...@justinternet.com.au] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSalgae Hi everyone,Yesterday I removed 100ml of water from our outdoor pond, which was very green with algae. To this I added 30ml of CS. I fully expected that the water would have been perfectly clear today, but it is still exactly the same. Any ideas?Also the right side of my face swelled up (presumably sinus) So I irrigated my nasal passages, and ears, also gargled every couple of hours. The swelling went down within a couple of hours. Brilliant !!Best wishes to allMargaret B --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002
CScs and h2o2
I am uncertain about using the h2o2 with the cs. My cs seems quite good. It is usually only slightly yellow and I filter it through unbleached coffee filters. But it seems that a drop of h2o2 per 8 oz. of cs will, especially after 24 hours, greatly increase the amount of ionic silver in the solution. So in my most recent batch, I added the h2o2 and now have a somewhat milky looking preparation. I thought I had been watching closely for what this means, but if someone has posted an explanation, I have somehow missed it. Or, worse, didn't even recognize the answer. haha So is someone knowledgeable enough to tell me what's going on? In the simplest terms possible please. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSuprise mold
Hello, I make my cs in 3/4 gallon batches using a generator from Silvergen. I filter and store it in leftover glass Pellegrino water bottles. Yesterday I retrieved a bottle from my store and much to my surprise it had a milky white mold growing on the bottom! A check of the remaining bottles revealed nothing abnormal. It is possible I forgot to properly rinse and air dry the bottle before using it the second time, but should the cs have killed the mold after filling the bottle? It was stored for approximately two months in a box, in the basement, devoid of any sunlight. Thanks, D. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and h2o2
Hi..from what I've learned.if it doesn't turn clear after adding H202...if you add more it always turns clear...the cloudiness in my experience means that there wasn't enough to do the reaction...Robb - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: CScs and h2o2 I am uncertain about using the h2o2 with the cs. My cs seems quite good. It is usually only slightly yellow and I filter it through unbleached coffee filters. But it seems that a drop of h2o2 per 8 oz. of cs will, especially after 24 hours, greatly increase the amount of ionic silver in the solution. So in my most recent batch, I added the h2o2 and now have a somewhat milky looking preparation. I thought I had been watching closely for what this means, but if someone has posted an explanation, I have somehow missed it. Or, worse, didn't even recognize the answer. haha So is someone knowledgeable enough to tell me what's going on? In the simplest terms possible please. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver and mold
Would like your opinion on somethingabout a month ago or so, I made a lotion recipe I have. I used CS instead of the distilled water that was called for. (The oils that are in this recipe are roughly 1/2 of the amount of water, by the way.) Made the recipe the same as a zillion times previously, using sterilized jars, etc. The only difference was using the CS instead of regular distilled water. The CS was some I made with a generator from Ole Bob, I think.The CS itself has a slight color change from regular water, so apparently it really IS CS!!! I don't know how else to tell. I put no preservative of any kind in this lotion thinking that the CS would inhibit the growth of any critters. Boy, was I ever wrong!!! Imagine my surprise this morning when I took the lid off a brand new jar to be met with all kinds of fuzzies I feel sort of let down from this - how can CS be inhibiting/destroying/killing/preventing anything in our bodies when it won't do that at a 50% ratio in a jar Would like to see some discussion on this. Thanks, Jean -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver and mold:Observation.
Dear Jean, Barring other, mitigating, conditionsI believe you will find that a 50% insoluble oil-fraction is more than sufficient to defeat the efficacy of colloidal silver. The better you homogenize the compound mixture..the more efficient the isolating influence of the oil-based fraction. The oil fraction is quite efficient at isolating much of the CS from completing a physical interface with adjacent tissue structures. What one, usually, encounters---in such circumstances as you relate---is a field of many islands of bacterial/fungal colonies.appearing to be a continuous sward across the visible environment. Colloidal silver is somewhat effective, but to a much-reduced degree.in emulsions containing water-insoluble oils. This may easily be substantiated through introducing a soy-based emulsifier such as lecithin, into a parent mixture containing gelatin (excellent bacterial food-source) and colloidal silver.lowering the temperature for congealing, then allowing the temperature to rise to levels supporting bacterial/fungal reproduction. Various population levels of opportunistic bacteria/fungus will soon make their appearance (usually). Another possibility, in your case, may be that the CS enjoyed sufficient interfacing to be effective in controlling families of inhibitory bacteria which were, themselves, controlling some existing fungal populationshence a bloom of the fungal or algae-like populations. Do remember, the ambient atmosphere is filled with numberless microscopic agents...continually; therefore, unless you are in clean-room environmentsthere is no practical way to totally eliminate surrounding microbial agents. This obtuse observation is stimulated by your statement that many other, similar (excepting the CS), mixtures using distilled water coupled with reasonable hygiene...apparantly, did not manifest as did the CS-containing mixtures--indicating you may have upset an existing balance commonly present within the natural biological landscape. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. BJ wrote: Would like your opinion on somethingabout a month ago or so, I made a lotion recipe I have. I used CS instead of the distilled water that was called for. (The oils that are in this recipe are roughly 1/2 of the amount of water, by the way.) Made the recipe the same as a zillion times previously, using sterilized jars, etc. The only difference was using the CS instead of regular distilled water. The CS was some I made with a generator from Ole Bob, I think.The CS itself has a slight color change from regular water, so apparently it really IS CS!!! I don't know how else to tell. I put no preservative of any kind in this lotion thinking that the CS would inhibit the growth of any critters. Boy, was I ever wrong!!! Imagine my surprise this morning when I took the lid off a brand new jar to be met with all kinds of fuzzies I feel sort of let down from this - how can CS be inhibiting/destroying/killing/preventing anything in our bodies when it won't do that at a 50% ratio in a jar Would like to see some discussion on this. Thanks, Jean -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
While you're at the coin dealer, just ask if he has any investment ingots. 1 oz silver, fine. That's where I get mine, for a bit more than the spot price for silver. I roll them out and then I can cut/trim them for whatever purpose I want. They're cheap enough you can have a few on-hand. Duncan Crow I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give. It is not pure silver and you probably would not absorb signifcant amounts of silver. However, if you have mercury amalgum fillings, the combination might liberate significant amounts of mercury due to battery action,in the form of methyl mercury, which might be hazardous to your health. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: nebulizers
Hi, I got the Omron Compair Elite Nebulizer (a mini compressor type) on Ebay for around $50.00. With shipping it came to $55.00. Brand new in box. I got it to use with my CS only for when I had colds, etc I was starting to feel a heaviness and some pain in my chest when I breathed (it's cold around here - around 40 in the daytime) and felt like I was catching something, a cold or virus or something, in my chest. So I started using my new nebby with CS in the meds cup and after a few 10 minutes sessions I could definitely feel a difference in my chest. Much easier to breath and no pain. I did this for a few more times and I did not catch any cold or have any pain in my chest since. It seems to work well at getting the CS to the lung 'innerds'. On a different, but the same, note - one of my pet roosters had a very gargly, gravely-sounding crow recently (around the same time my chest was feeling heavy) so I gave him some 'breathing treatments' too. Just held the nebby up to his face and let him breath in the CS mist that came out of the tube, both in his mouth and his nose. After 3 or 4, 10 minute treatments his crow was just like normal, no scratchyness or gargling noises. Sounded very clear and nice (for a rooster). Seems to work on animals too. It's the getting the mist into there lungs that's the hard part. It looks just like this one: http://www.portablenebs.com/omronelite.htm Thanks, Christine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuprise mold
Hi D., Anybody's guess as to why there's mold on the bottom but my best guess is you're correct. Dirty bottle and it had a higher order mold in the bottle. CS only kills lower order molds and not all of them. If you had said there was a bacteria growing in the bottle I'd really wonder what was going on but a mold leaves too much chance to it being one not affected by CS. As aside note, why do you filter it? It isn't necessary. You add to the CS whenever you filter it. Chemicals in the filter paper don't make it any better. Also, it isn't necessary to store in dark containers or in a dark place if it's made correctly. We have some stored that's in clear containers and is over 2 years old. Still the same as the day we bottled it. Crystal clear.. Regards, Trem www.silvergen.com - Original Message - From: Donna Streinz spunkymonke...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:57 AM Subject: CSSuprise mold Hello, I make my cs in 3/4 gallon batches using a generator from Silvergen. I filter and store it in leftover glass Pellegrino water bottles. Yesterday I retrieved a bottle from my store and much to my surprise it had a milky white mold growing on the bottom! A check of the remaining bottles revealed nothing abnormal. It is possible I forgot to properly rinse and air dry the bottle before using it the second time, but should the cs have killed the mold after filling the bottle? It was stored for approximately two months in a box, in the basement, devoid of any sunlight. Thanks, D. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTitration Math
Ian Roe wrote: Hi: I'm not the greatest when it comes to titration mathematics. Can someone here show me the formula for dilution. I knew how to do this once but I just can't remember now. Problem: wish to put an unknown volume of 35% H2O2 into a 250 ml and a 500 ml container and fill with distilled water to obtain 3%. That is pretty easy. You want 500 ml of 3% H2O2, so you want the container to contain .03*500 = 15 ml of H2O2 with the remainder water. Since the H2O2 is 35% to start with you will have to start out with 15/.35 ml of the 35% H2O2 or just under 43 ml. So put just under 43 ml of your 35% H2O2 in the 500 ml container, and fill with water to 500 total volume. Now that will be a volume percentage. For a weight (mass) percentage, then you would have to work with weights, but I think the 35% H2O2 is close enough to the mass of water to not worry about it. Marshall Equipment: 35% H2O2, 250 and 500 ml containers and a 30 ml measuring cup divided off in 5 ml lines, drams at the 1/4 oz markers, 1/4 oz markers - and of course distilled water. Thanking you in advance. IanRoe
Re: CSSuprise mold
Good points; also worth thinking about the possibility that the small remainder of - whatever - in the bottle had dried and was not mixed with the CS. Later it would gradually absorb water and the fungus could bloom out. At 11:31 AM 12/3/02 -0800, you wrote: Hi D., Anybody's guess as to why there's mold on the bottom but my best guess is you're correct. Dirty bottle and it had a higher order mold in the bottle. CS only kills lower order molds and not all of them. Interesting, can you give some more info on this? My practical experience would bear it out, but I never really pursued the question. TNX! If you had said there was a bacteria growing in the bottle I'd really wonder what was going on but a mold leaves too much chance to it being one not affected by CS. Regards, Trem www.silvergen.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTitration Math
Hi: I'm not the greatest when it comes to titration mathematics. Can someone here show me the formula for dilution. I knew how to do this once but I just can't remember now. Problem: wish to put an unknown volume of 35% H2O2 into a 250 ml and a 500 ml container and fill with distilled water to obtain 3%. Equipment: 35% H2O2, 250 and 500 ml containers and a 30 ml measuring cup divided off in 5 ml lines, drams at the 1/4 oz markers, 1/4 oz markers - and of course distilled water. Thanking you in advance. IanRoe
Re: CSDermaseptic....
Fascinating pages, thanks Jason. Looks like it could be jerry-rigged by using a variable current limiter with any of our low voltage generators. Or even a SOTA Beck device applied across the insult directly. Chuck I don't mind getting older. I just mind that I have aging children. On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 05:30:44 -0800, Jason Eaton ey...@lvcm.com wrote: Chuck: It is called iontophoresis: http://www.silvermedicine.org/silveriondeliver.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/robertobecker.html Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver and mold
CS only works well in a liquid environment. Solid and semi solid environments like a jell isolate the particles and ions from coming into contact. Also, 'fuzzies' [molds, algeas fungi] are not like single celled microbes and can be hard to kill. Ken At 09:59 AM 12/3/02 -0700, you wrote: Would like your opinion on somethingabout a month ago or so, I made a lotion recipe I have. I used CS instead of the distilled water that was called for. (The oils that are in this recipe are roughly 1/2 of the amount of water, by the way.) Made the recipe the same as a zillion times previously, using sterilized jars, etc. The only difference was using the CS instead of regular distilled water. The CS was some I made with a generator from Ole Bob, I think.The CS itself has a slight color change from regular water, so apparently it really IS CS!!! I don't know how else to tell. I put no preservative of any kind in this lotion thinking that the CS would inhibit the growth of any critters. Boy, was I ever wrong!!! Imagine my surprise this morning when I took the lid off a brand new jar to be met with all kinds of fuzzies I feel sort of let down from this - how can CS be inhibiting/destroying/killing/preventing anything in our bodies when it won't do that at a 50% ratio in a jar Would like to see some discussion on this. Thanks, Jean -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #892
Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows what the color of advanced silver is suppose to be. I bought some from utopia silver and it was the color of weak tea. I was under the impression that silver was suppose to be clear. Does anyone have comments on this? Has anyone bought from Utopia silver before and were they satisfied? thank you - Original Message - From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:54 PM To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V102 #892 Content-Type: text/plain silver-digest Digest Volume 102 : Issue 892 Today's Topics: Re: CSHyperthermia Re: CSalgae CScs and h2o2 CSSuprise mold CSsilver and mold Re: CScs and h2o2 Re: CSsilver and mold Re: CSsilver coins/reply Re: CSsilver and mold:Observation. Re: CSsilver coins/reply Re: CSNebulizer Re: CSsilver coins/reply CSRe: nebulizers Re: CSSuprise mold Re: CSSuprise moldGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
If you look around, you can pick up a 1 oz .999 bullion coin for $8 to $12. They will do just fine. Ken At 07:14 PM 12/2/02 -0800, you wrote: paul...@juno.com wrote: OK..Let me get this straight.silver coins are NOT a good thing to use when making cs? I was told by someone on this list 2 years ago that it was OK to use the one troy ounce silver trade unit stamped .999 pure silver and now this is not correct??? Someone please clear this up. I have received so many mixed messages from different sources including this list. Thanks in advance. I thought I was doing this correctly at last, making mostly clear (sometimes barely gold) cs. Paula in N Ga PS I (and the people I give cs to) really don't need to be turning blue (LOL) i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour thank you -- Do you Yahoo!? http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com>Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. http://rd.yahoo.com/mail/mailsig/*http://mailplus.yahoo.com>Sign up now
CSRE:CSThe essence of bioluminesence
The effective or resonant wavelength was one question that I thought someone in the silver-list may know, or know of. I have seen a reference to a wavelength, but could not find it and only recall it being in the range of 600nm. I have been looking for it tonight among other things, and find here a discussion on Sonoluminescence, ...a little-understood phenomenon whereby light is emitted by tiny bubbles suspended in a liquid subjected to intense acoustic fields www.techmind.org/sl/sons.html now that is cool. I swear I see light when I hit that perfect tone on that perfect note. ah-ha! After a bit of a search could not find a resonant wavelength for hypericum. What are the relationships between Blood Light therapies and electro therapy? Is there a comparison between UV therapy and the other electromagnetic therapies? Have any CS researchers found that any modalities help create an interface between the CS and target organism, i.e. what methods if any will bring the target organism to the CS or the CS to the target? As in a hepatic infection, would DMSO provide the transport? Or does some method of direct electro stimulation have the ability to move the target organism out into the bloodstream - perhaps both disabling it and making it available to CS. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
I seriously doubt it . ken At 12:47 AM 12/3/02 -0800, you wrote: I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give. Pacific Pine Cones - scented, coloured, plain for Christmas crafts decor - pine, spruce, redwood. Send an email request for product/price list. ---Original Message--- From: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:39:34 AM To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:CS>silver coins/reply On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 19:14:53 -0800 (PST), mars larz mailto:pp...@yahoo.com>pp...@yahoo.com> wrote: > i think you guys should be careful experimenting and complicating making cs with all these other silver elements this is why people are afraid and sceptical about using cs. Rosemary and the feds will probably use this info down the line to really ban cs it's for reasons like this that the senator turned blue. why not stick to the silver wire. these coins you're looking for seem to be few and probably far too expensive in your search for them that's just my opinion You can go into any coin shop and get silver rounds that are .999+ fine silver for about (right now) $5.50 US each. Most cities of 50,000 and above have at least one of these stores. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org>http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html>http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>mdev...@eskimo.com> . http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=9> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=309lang=9>Click Here Attachment Converted: c:\eudora\attach\sg-02.gif Attachment Converted: c:\eudora\attach\IMSTP3.gif
Re: CSNebulizer
At 04:48 AM 12/3/02 -0500, you wrote: Okay. I have a question for anyone that can explain... Perhaps this is a silly question. How exactly does a nebulizer work? How does it create the mist that is inhaled into the lungs? I was out shopping for Christmas over the weekend and thought I found an effective and cheap device to get CS into the lungs. Now I think that in my excitement and haste I screwed up by overlooking a simple insight. The device I bought it one of those things that creates the mist (steam) by heating up the liquid. Now I kind of have the feeling I paid 10 bucks for something to distill all the CS out of my already distilled water. :) Is this what is happening to my silver in my steam device? It now makes sense to me that I am probably defeating my purpose. I am sure the silver falls into the catagory of heavies when it comes to heating the water up to a boiling point. All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? yes Get an ultrasonic or venturi type nebulizer. ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
...I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give... How about homemade CS lozenges; any candy-makers here? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: Water Distillers
In a message dated 12/3/2002 3:45:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, medwi...@tacom.army.mil writes: Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best for the money had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$ Do you have a name and web address?
Re: CSA unique CS applicator?
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 05:25:55 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: http://www.klearsen.com/dermasep.html The DermaSeptic is a unique electronic skin care device. It delivers natural, antimicrobial silver ions deep into the skin so the infection can be terminated before it breaks out into an open sore. ** How do you think the cs is getting under the skin? The device looks like it's a high-voltage Zapper (Clark-type) with a single silver electrode. I'm guessing that the claim they make is the voltage is creating holes in cell walls and the silver is getting into the skin via the holes. I'll bet they're wrong. :) Since Clark's zapper, all by itself, will kill the bacteria and viruses, the silver electrode is just a contact point. (Silver is probably a safer electrode than the copper normally used.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNebulizer Giant Room Size
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:32:42 -0500 , Medwith, Robert medwi...@tacom.army.mil wrote: I just thought of some thing I have an attachment for my Shop Vac for removing dry plaster while sanding. It is a 5 gallon bucket with a lid You fill bucket 1/2 to 2/3 up with water and put on lid You have to connections on lid one that is above water is attached to Shop Vac The connection that is below water is connected to a long hose attached to a sanding block. The theory is to trap the dry wall dust in the water That's how a Rainbow vacuum cleaner works. No dust output at all. It's just about the best vacuum on the market (but very expensive). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTitration Math
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002 15:53:45 -0500, Ian Roe ian_onta...@hotmail.com wrote: Can someone here show me the formula for dilution. I knew how to do this once but I just can't remember now. Problem: wish to put an unknown volume of 35% H2O2 into a 250 ml and a 500 ml container and fill with distilled water to obtain 3%. If you're not too picky (IOW, you want something close to 3% and aren't using it for quantitative analysis), and since H2O2 and water have about the same weight per volume -- just mix 1 part H2O2 with 11 parts of water. That'll produce about 3% H2O2. (A 1/9 mixture will be 3.5%). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTitration Math
Ian: Don't make a mistake, instead use the form: http://www.silvermedicine.org/conversionform2.html On the page, you can see the annotated algebra I used for designing the titration calculations. Not that I'm a big fan of lazy math, but misplacing a decimal point is not a good idea with H2O2. Let me know if you have any questions, Kind Regards Jason - Original Message - From: Ian Roe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: CSTitration Math Hi: I'm not the greatest when it comes to titration mathematics. Can someone here show me the formula for dilution. I knew how to do this once but I just can't remember now. Problem: wish to put an unknown volume of 35% H2O2 into a 250 ml and a 500 ml container and fill with distilled water to obtain 3%. Equipment: 35% H2O2, 250 and 500 ml containers and a 30 ml measuring cup divided off in 5 ml lines, drams at the 1/4 oz markers, 1/4 oz markers - and of course distilled water. Thanking you in advance. IanRoe
Re: CSalgae
Message - Original Message - From: Heather King (LCA) To: Margaret Braithwaite ; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 2:01 AM Subject: RE: CSalgae I don't believe I've seen CS actually kill algae yet. Or clarify alginated water either. Thank you for your very informative reply. Best wishes Margaret. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/2002
Re: CSDermaseptic....
Chuck: Exactly! I have Ken to thank for that cool potentiometer wired into the lvdc unit. In fact, I'm staring at the note he enclosed with the unit: No instructions. Twist the dial and watch what happens. - Ken I found it extremely advantageous to be able to hook a multimeter up to the unit, twist the dial and manually adjust the current on the fly. I learned from first hand experience that the state of tissues determines how much current flows through tissues. Damaged tissue has a very low tolerance to current, and yet has less resistance than healthy tissue. In fact, I ended up settling on using a home-made conductive gel which greatly assisted with normalizing the current flow into the skin. Any conductive gel should be as close to a ph level of 7 as possible, as, according to my research, this is the ideal ph level for the transport of ions via iontophoresis. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:57 PM Subject: Re: CSDermaseptic Fascinating pages, thanks Jason. Looks like it could be jerry-rigged by using a variable current limiter with any of our low voltage generators. Or even a SOTA Beck device applied across the insult directly. Chuck I don't mind getting older. I just mind that I have aging children. On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 05:30:44 -0800, Jason Eaton ey...@lvcm.com wrote: Chuck: It is called iontophoresis: http://www.silvermedicine.org/silveriondeliver.html http://www.silvermedicine.org/robertobecker.html Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA unique CS applicator?
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:46:08 -0600, Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net wrote: The device looks like it's a high-voltage Zapper (Clark-type) with a single silver electrode. I'm guessing that the claim they make is the voltage is creating holes in cell walls and the silver is getting into the skin via the holes. Dean, I suspect you mean high frequency rather than high voltage. The Beck device is the one that tingles you. I'll bet they're wrong. :) Since Clark's zapper, all by itself, will kill the bacteria and viruses, the silver electrode is just a contact point. (Silver is probably a safer electrode than the copper normally used.) Either Beck's OR Clark's would probably be improved with silver electrodes. Something for us experimenters to work on... -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF Chuck I don't want to die--existence is one of my strong points -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRolled Silver
Hi Duncan, Subscribers: Duncan Wrote: While you're at the coin dealer, just ask if he has any investment ingots. 1 oz silver, fine. That's where I get mine, for a bit more than the spot price for silver. I roll them out and then I can cut/trim them for whatever purpose I want. They're cheap enough you can have a few on-hand. Duncan Crow How do you exactly roll them? Because passing pure silver between two steel rollers will encrust iron and carbon on the silver surface and stainless steel would probably be worse. (additional Nickel) Regards Peter R -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuprise mold
Hi Trem, Thanks for your reply. You wrote: As aside note, why do you filter it? It isn't necessary. You add to the CS whenever you filter it. Chemicals in the filter paper don't make it any better.. When making larger batches the silver decomposes for lack of a better word, leaving little flecks of silver in the mix. I tried spooning it out but that just mixed it in more. I use non-bleached organic coffee filters, which (before the first use) I pre-soak in distilled water, then rinse, then soak, then rinse, then filter. Then I let it dry, and store it for the next use. Ummm, Trem, you told me how to do it...about a year ago. Also, it isn't necessary to store in dark containers or in a dark place if it's made correctly. We have some stored that's in clear containers and is over 2 years old. Still the same as the day we bottled it. Crystal clear.. Yes, I understand but I don't have anywhere else to store it. What did you mean by lower/higher forms of mold? Thanks, D. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSORMUS and stills
Ivan: Fantastic... I bet there are quality earths in your area... Those mud pools are amazing. Where there are mud pools formed via geothermal activity, there are often usable clay deposits nearby. The muds themselves can be quite therapuetic, and often contain a substantial amount of smectite clay. Thanks for the response! New Zealand has always been quite appealing to me. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 12:47 AM Subject: RE: CSORMUS and stills Jason, Thank you for a most informative and interesting post. I have found your previous messages on the subject of healing clays extremely interesting also, and I will investigate further as time permits, as I feel there must be some good clays here in New Zealand... there certainly are for potting, which was a hat I wore for some years in the distant past. NZ is quite thermally active, and there are a number of sites with bubbling mud pools and so on. I wonder if these clays would be worth investigating. The marriage of silver and healing clay sounds like a great idea from outside the square. Please keep us informed of your progress. Kind Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: Jason Eaton [mailto:ey...@lvcm.com] Sent: Saturday, 30 November 2002 8:39 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: Re: CSORMUS and stills Ivan: Indeed, mysteries prevail... Unfortunately, the ORMUS products that are available that CAN be studied are not the same as Hudson's products. I had the privilege many years ago to examine some of Hudson's monotomic gold and Iridium - when Hudson's dream was still alive and fresh in the mind of those investing in his project. Holding the Iridium in your hand was like burying your hand in a large bin of sea salt for hours, only the feeling was hundreds of times more potent. I have always been interested in the monoatomic elements, as reportedly the healing clays are rich with them. This is one reason why I have been so diligent in attempting to find natural and unprocessed clays to study, as my understanding is that any processing of substances with monoatomic elements greatly effects them -- just like Aloe Vera. On a related note, I just had a wonderful meeting with Thierry Brunet and his wife from France, of the Buruli Busters ( http://www.burulibusters.com ) organization. His mother heads the non-profit relief effort in Africa, and he has been touring the world meeting with the top pelotherapy practitioners and clay scientists of the world. We have yet another recent documented case of severe mercury poisoning ( this one nearly lethal, with symptoms including comas, a stroke, and neurological abnormalities )being eliminated within one week of clay baths made with larger amounts of Montmorillonite, and Illite taken internally. Final questions remain on the best way to pull the mercury from the head/brain region, but all symptoms have been completely eliminated. Blood tests have been taken for a comparison, but the results are not back as of yet. An analysis will be done on the used clay itself, as well. I believe at this point I have sufficient evidence, although anectodtal, on the efficacy of silver as combined with clay against at least viral conditions, due to repeated successes done by comparing the action of silver alone, clay alone, and silver and clay combined against various forms of herpes breakouts. In the future, we hope to test the clay silver combination with the Buruli ulcers. Silver alone is not likely to be effective against this condition due to the fact that it is nearly impossible to deliver anything to infected tissues ( while in the beginning treatment stages ). Somehow, although no scientist or expert to date has discovered how, the illite, when placed on the body externally, is reaching the infection site through prolonged treatment. I believe that silver added to this mica clay, at least in the later stages of treatment, will vastly improve tissue healing, and may help to avoid the unpleasant side effects often encountered about mid-way through the treatment ( the immune system tends to breakdown and the individual can become quite ill for a period of time ). Such work on my end has been very slow going. I've been having problems identifying the difference in efficacy of the various clays, and think I've finally isolated one factor in the smectite class of clays: It appears that high sodium bentonites/montmorillonites are far less effective then their virgin counterparts when used on the body. Kind Regards, Jason -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your
Re: CSHmmm
I recently purchased the Omron nebulizer from Drugstore.com. Here's a link, scroll down the page a little: http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=7876 It's $69.95 and they've got free shipping. Kim On 3 Dec 2002 at 5:19, Roy Thompson wrote: Wouldn't happen to have a cheap nebulizer to trade for a face misting machine, would you? :) Thanks for the information! All the silver would be left behind in this process, wouldn't it? Yes it would. You need a nebuliser that uses air or ultrasonic vibration. Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and h2o2
I've begun putting the H202 in the CS the night before I use it, by morning it is clear. - Original Message - From: Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CScs and h2o2 Hi..from what I've learned.if it doesn't turn clear after adding H202...if you add more it always turns clear...the cloudiness in my experience means that there wasn't enough to do the reaction...Robb - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: CScs and h2o2 I am uncertain about using the h2o2 with the cs. My cs seems quite good. It is usually only slightly yellow and I filter it through unbleached coffee filters. But it seems that a drop of h2o2 per 8 oz. of cs will, especially after 24 hours, greatly increase the amount of ionic silver in the solution. So in my most recent batch, I added the h2o2 and now have a somewhat milky looking preparation. I thought I had been watching closely for what this means, but if someone has posted an explanation, I have somehow missed it. Or, worse, didn't even recognize the answer. haha So is someone knowledgeable enough to tell me what's going on? In the simplest terms possible please. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA unique CS applicator?
Hi Chuck, On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:36:39 -0500, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:46:08 -0600, Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net wrote: The device looks like it's a high-voltage Zapper (Clark-type) with a single silver electrode. I'm guessing that the claim they make is the voltage is creating holes in cell walls and the silver is getting into the skin via the holes. Dean, I suspect you mean high frequency rather than high voltage. The Beck device is the one that tingles you. I mean both. I figure a relatively high frequency (10 kHz) and voltage (maybe 5 kV) at very low current (microAmp range). That is, if they're trying for electrophoresis. I'll bet they're wrong. :) Since Clark's zapper, all by itself, will kill the bacteria and viruses, the silver electrode is just a contact point. (Silver is probably a safer electrode than the copper normally used.) Either Beck's OR Clark's would probably be improved with silver electrodes. Something for us experimenters to work on... Yup. I've been thinking of pounding out some silver rounds to try as wands for the Clark zapper. BTW, IMO, the Beck/Miller (no relation) bio-electrifier works at the transition when the voltage reverses every 1/4 second. That's why you use (wear) it for hours at a time instead of the Clark zapper's minutes. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE:CScs and h2o2
This is interesting. In my limited experience I have put H2O2 in my CS twice after reading a thread here awhile back. The first time a slightly yellow batch of CS did turn clear. The second time it turned a murky, hazy, foggy (followed by cloudy) gray color, just like a western Oregon winter forecast. I attributed the change to the formation of AgO and therefore not an improvement. I decided then to not try to mix other compounds with the CS (except gatorade). Now although it seems as though there were mixed opinions as to what happens when H2O2 is added to the CS, the recent analytical results are convincing that more ionic content results. Is this the consensus? I've just looked at the silvermedicine page - no doubt there, good info. radishes, Glenn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver coins/reply
Think about what it is you're trying to do. Colloidal silver has gazillions of teeny tiny particles - even ions, which may be only one silver atom big, in each ounce. A silver coin is one very large particle, one per ounce, you might say. Some of that silver from the coin or whatever may get scritched off as you rattle the coin around in your mouth - on your teeth perhaps - some may dissolve off in your saliva. But neither of these nor any other way I can think of could possibly produce the amount of very very small particles that a dedicated CS generator makes. Doesn't seem like the results would be very much compared to drinking CS, does it? OTOH, people used to put a silver - pure silver - coin into milk jugs to keep the milk from spoiling so fast, so maybe any amount can help some. For a cold, I use CS and a spritzer and spritz the stuff into my nose and throat while inhaling; works every time, for me. At 01:48 PM 12/3/02 -0800, you wrote: ...I have actually found an outlet for silver coins but I still want to know if holding it in my mouth would give the same benefit that cs would give... How about homemade CS lozenges; any candy-makers here? jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs and h2o2
pj, Try the same thing with plain distilled water see if it still turns milky. This will tell you if the H2O2 is reacting with the garbage the comes out of your coffee filter. Filtering is really not needed. Just let your fresh brew sit overnight and the electrode sluffings will settle to the bottom. Then carefully decant the liquid off as you need it. --Steve - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 9:53 AM Subject: CScs and h2o2 I am uncertain about using the h2o2 with the cs. My cs seems quite good. It is usually only slightly yellow and I filter it through unbleached coffee filters. But it seems that a drop of h2o2 per 8 oz. of cs will, especially after 24 hours, greatly increase the amount of ionic silver in the solution. So in my most recent batch, I added the h2o2 and now have a somewhat milky looking preparation. I thought I had been watching closely for what this means, but if someone has posted an explanation, I have somehow missed it. Or, worse, didn't even recognize the answer. haha So is someone knowledgeable enough to tell me what's going on? In the simplest terms possible please. pj __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
