CSParasites
Mike mentioned bombing parasites below: by chance, I am now taking a product, Amish Dewormer, from altcancer.com. I am getting all my family members to try it. A 64-dose bottle costs about eighty bucks -- not cheap -- but requires only five tablespoons (one per day) over five days to effect a cleanse. After 3 tbsp per week is a maintenance dose. The two of us using the product now noticed no effect the first day, increased effects the second, and are now on the third day. I am NOT taking stool samples out of the toilet bowl for micrscopic analysis, so I can only report on the digestive effects. In comparison to other cleansing regimens I have seen advertised, I think the Amish product may be the cheapest. Information is on the company sites. BTW, I have read many, many times in various news reports that virtually every person on earth has some parasites, ranging from about 26 types in an urban American to several hundred in impoverished rural persons in, say, Africa.Why standard American medical practice largely ignores asymptomatic parasite infestation, I simply can not imagine. It defies common sense. JBB M. G. Devour wrote: As an Atkins dieter/fan, I have to tell you that following the atkins diet, both regular and the fat fast - eating cream cheese or other high fat foods, 5 times a day, under 1000 calories, both do put and keep you in ketosis. This is not water loss, muscle loss, JUST weight loss. I was working with the Eades' Protien Power Life Plan. Similar, but a bit less restrictive than Atkins, from my understanding. Knowing all this, I was struck by the claim in the Master Cleanse literature that it would burn fat. Made no sense. Thus my question. I'd like to bomb the parasites and do the liver cleanses, then move back toward Atkins', Eades', or Faigan's programs, and see if it's easier to do with a healthier body to begin with. Thanks, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVitamin A Overdose
R.e. the comments below: this is one reason I questioned the very large doses of fish oil taken by one list member. Vitamin A is, I have read, a fat-soluble vitamin, meaning that it builds up in the body, and can reach toxic levels that cause damage -- the the liver I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. Bottom line: that vitamin builds up, so large doses of fish oil could be a bit risky. I believe that EPA and DHA can be synthesized and taken without fish oil, which might be necessary for some persons. Tad Winiecki wrote: Christiane wrote: This is in response to what to replace coumadin with to thin the blood. My understanding is that is it very risky to stop coumadin, and when you wean off of it, it is critical to have your numbers monitored closely. Keeping that in mind I have some input about a possible solution. I have been on Fish Oil in mega doses prescribed by an integrated medicine physician in NYC. I was told to take 12,000 MG per day (with 400IU's Vit. E to supplement). One of the side effects that he warned about was that it would thin my blood and possibly put me at risk for bleeding out during a surgery or severe injury. Due to that risk, I was told to stop it 3 weeks before any surgery, and a bleed time was performed within 24 hours of my procedures to insure safety. So...I don't have any specifics about replacing coumadin, however I'm acutely aware of the blood thinning properties of mega doses of fish oil. I followed Adelle Davis' health advice and gave my youngest daughter cod liver oil from birth. It did make her very healthy: few infections. A few years down the line, she started having problems with nose bleeds, mainly in the winter. After several years of this I finally found out excess Vit. A can cause nose bleeds, and then I took her off fish oil and found if I gave her any she would have nose bleeds again. Question: were the nose bleeds the result of an allergy to fish oils from starting her on them from birth, or does it have something to do with the blood thinning action? Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
R.e. cost: the expensive ozonizer, at $260 from SOTA, could be cheaper in the long run if you wish to do regular dosing of H202. Just a thought . . . . JBB M. G. Devour wrote: Julie writes: Is this lemonade made with fresh lemons? Yep. Or limes. Dr. Sandra Cabot advises, in The Liver Cleansing Diet, that all of her overweight patients lost weight following her plan (over 1500 people). She believes excess weight is attributed to a toxic liver. Yup. That's the general reason why I'm doing this. ... hunger pains go away, skin clears up, and you should feel great. I've experienced the lack of hunger before on juice fasts. I *hope* the skin'll clear up. That's one of the things that bugs me about my condition right now, and suggests to me my liver needs support. If it's cleansing you are looking for, have you tried any of Hulda Clark's methods? We have found her kidney cleanse and liver cleanse fabulous. Got over 600 stones out doing her liver cleanse twice. What an eye opener that was/is, but the proof was in the toilet... Actually, I'm trying to work up to doing her liver cleanse. My, umm, gut tells me that I've got plenty of those stones. I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. I'm planning to use portions of the Beck protocols to accomplish that: zapping (or blood purification), CS, magnetic pulsing, and, instead of ozonated water, that H2O2 in water program recommended by Ol' Bob, among others. These choices are driven by cost, among other things. sigh Saves me having to buy the herbal extracts and an expensive ozonizer. Does that sound reasonable, folks? Again, enjoy your fast. Thank you, ma'am. I'll think twice before I stay on it for more than a week and a half or two, though. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHeal Thyself or Die Trying
Following is very relevant to CS self-experimenters. Interesting article. . . . http://www.the-scientist.com/yr2003/jul/prof3_030714.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPrint screen
Windows 98 To copy the window or screen contents To copy an image of the window that is currently active, press ALT+PRINT SCREEN. To copy an image of the entire screen, press PRINT SCREEN. Note To paste the image into a document, on the Edit menu in the document window, click Paste. Jack Dayton wrote: . Well I recently returned from the local Harbor Frieght store, and I have a learning experience to share. After looking up DMMs at HFs web site, and having writ by hand all of the information about the meter of my choice, really cheap, I went to the store to buy that particular meter which was currently priced at $2.99 - except not at the store, where it was priced at $9.99. The nice lady stated that the online HF was separate from the store HF. She called the manager, and he said to sell it at that price, but in the future to please bring in a coupon for any item which I found on the web site when buying at the store -- they are willing to accept a screen shot print-out ( if Pee Cees will do that) if there is no coupon. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #497
Warren Jefferson 7/22/03 12:23 PM 1. What is CS? 2. Silver particles vs. silver ions which does the healing? 3. If you were to give it another name what would it be: Colloidal Silver, Ionic Silver Water, Electrically Isolated Silver, or something else? CS is not an accurate term to describe this substance, in a technical sense, but it seems to be the generally accepted term in use. * Think Voo Doo, without the doll. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS Here are the inevitable corrections, but not so many this time. Anyway, it is a poor business model then the FDA and pharmaceutical companies are trying to change the law so they can put you out of business. Typical typo - please change then to when, so it reads Anyway, it is a poor business model when the FDA and pharmaceutical companies are trying to change the law so they can put you out of business. Some thoughts on giving cs to someone for the first time: However, children and sensitive people may refuse to take it. Once this happens, they may never try it again. I think it is normal for people to have a bit of fear of something new. CS is definitely something they have never experienced before, and it may help to sit down and try to describe what it tastes like, instead of surprising them. It is important to stress the positive aspects of this strange new experience. It doesn't have any smell, so they may be surprised when their taste buds start sending signals to their brain. It is important to intercept these before that little switch flips in their mind and they decide they don't like it. Let them know that the new taste will tell them it is working, and to look for it. It will soon go away, so they have to work quickly. Let them know it won't make them sick, and they won't feel any other effects. The hardest part is to get them to keep their mouth closed for ten minutes. Not many people are used to doing that:) Let them know beforehand the taste is much better than the other remedies they may have taken that have a strong medicinal smell. These linger in the mouth for a long time, and can make someone nauseous. The most convincing method might be to wait until they show the symptoms of a cold or flu. Explain patiently as before what they will likely experience, and let them sleep overnight. When they wake in the morning and are no longer sick, they will be convinced of the value of cs, and not mind the taste at all. In fact, they may become very discriminating and let you know in no uncertain terms when it is not as strong as usual. Probably others have stories of their experiences that may be helpful to the group. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
I can do that but all calibration goes out the window unless the factory setting side of the switch is used. I can also make current variable from .5 to 6 ma. [or nearly any other range under 6 ma] But change one thing and everything else changes too...so, then I get reams of questions that don't contain enough info to answer, have no possible accurate answer or take many hours to figure out. Plug n' play If you play, you don't get to plug. Not exactly the 'keep it simple' ..reliable ,affordable and convenient...philosophy I prefer. Ode I have always favored the Silverpuppy for the clean design and rounded electrodes. It might be possible to ask Ken to add a switch to reduce the current, which might open a new sales opportunity for him. It would allow people to choose which cs they prefer, and it's always best to let the customer decide. Think of Baskin-Robbins. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUnusual balding spots
Hi, I have a friend that is a missionary in the Philippines and her son has developed bald spots on his head. The skin is white and clean, no bumps or redness. It doesn't itch. She noticed the first one in April and a doctor there said he is probably doing it to himself and not to worry. But the hair in that spot has never grown back and now he has two more spots just like it. one is 3-4 across and the other is 1 1/2 across. One is sort of round and the other is more triangular. She has noticed this on some of the other children playing, but none of her girls have gotten it. Any ideas on what it may be or what might help it? Will CS have any effect on it? They've only been in the Philippines for about 7 months now and so far, he is the only one that hasn't gotten sick and lost any weight. Any suggestions would be most greatly appreciated. Patti
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #497
Hello, In researching for the book on CS I am doing I realized that there is a big debate about the whole nature of CS. Colloidal Silver as it is used today has no real scientific meaning. It generally refers to a substance produced by the LVDC electrolysis method made up of water, colloidal sized silver particles, and dissolved silver ions. Here is a list of questions that I hope can be answered here. 1. What is CS? 2. Silver particles vs. silver ions which does the healing? 3. If you were to give it another name what would it be: Colloidal Silver, Ionic Silver Water, Electrically Isolated Silver, or something else? CS is not an accurate term to describe this substance, in a technical sense, but it seems to be the generally accepted term in use. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
Mike Monett7/22/03 2:13 AM Third, there is no need for an expensive lab test. The salt test is a very good way to compare different cs solutions. Frank Key has offered free testing, but that offer might not be available to you any longer. What more could a lab tell us that we need to know? Very little, and their results would likely never agree with the same test run at yet another lab. So why bother? Depending on the test results, we would know how much of what you say can be given any credence -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpuds rule!
mamapug7/22/03 3:49 AM Nope, nope, nope! Spuds beat taters hands down! It`s the volcanic soil that makes all the difference! :o) Marshalee Except for baking or mashed, I'll take those little reds that come in cans -- lov'em. Jack If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would have put them on my knees. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #497
Warren Jefferson wrote: Hello, In researching for the book on CS I am doing I realized that there is a big debate about the whole nature of CS. Colloidal Silver as it is used today has no real scientific meaning. It generally refers to a substance produced by the LVDC electrolysis method made up of water, colloidal sized silver particles, and dissolved silver ions. Here is a list of questions that I hope can be answered here. 1. What is CS? By definition it is a colloidal suspension of silver particles in water. Pratically it is a combination of both colloidal silver and silver ions when made by the electrolysis, both LVDC and HVAC. 2. Silver particles vs. silver ions which does the healing? There is a debate on that. Since any produced by electrolysis contains both, it is difficult to know. It appears that both are effective at killing pathogens. But you said which does the healing, which implies you are speaking about the ability of silver ions to convert injured cells to stem cells (IE undifferentiate them). In that case it is the ions. Many here assume that the colloid will make it to be blood stream better because the ions are assumed to react with the HCl in the stomach and precipitate out, but there is no real data to back that up. Also it is believed that ionic silver may be better at penetrating the skin for topical applications, but once again there is no hard data to back that up either. So I believe that most, including me, believe that a combination of both particles and ions are best, each doing it's own thing to kill pathogens and repair tissues. 3. If you were to give it another name what would it be: Colloidal Silver, Ionic Silver Water, Electrically Isolated Silver, or something else? Well a marketing term could be something like Silver Water, but I think that is already trademarked. Technically it would be ionic and colloidal silver. CS is not an accurate term to describe this substance, in a technical sense, but it seems to be the generally accepted term in use. It is correct for the suspended partical portion, just not the ionic portion. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
Subject: Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:17:33 -0400 From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com I can do that but all calibration goes out the window unless the factory setting side of the switch is used. I can also make current variable from .5 to 6 ma. [or nearly any other range under 6 ma] But change one thing and everything else changes too...so, then I get reams of questions that don't contain enough info to answer, have no possible accurate answer or take many hours to figure out. Plug n' play If you play, you don't get to plug. Not exactly the 'keep it simple' ..reliable, affordable and convenient...philosophy I prefer. Ode Yes, I admire your philosophy very much. Keep It Simple, Sydney. Howcome you can only go down to 0.5mA? Can you get down to 162uA? Also, does stirring affect the brew time when autoshutoff is enabled? Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSalt test
bri...@dlois.com 7/22/03 3:48 PM I've seen reference to this but have no idea what it is. What exactly is the salt test and how does one use it? *** It is a test for CS strength that one list contributor suggests can be used. As far as I know, on one else considers that a valid test. Don't give the idea any further consideration. How much CS does everyone take? How high is up. Drink an ounce or two? I drink 2 oz first thing in the morning, and wait at least 1 hour before eating anything so I don't stimulate stomach acid(HCL) production - acid changes the nature of the CS -- 'nuf said for now on that. Drink a glass? Yeah, my glass holds 2 oz . How often do you do this? I do that once per day as maintenance, but if you are fighting a problem then the answer might be 4 / 6 / 8 or more glasses, it will depend on the reason -- if you have a specific problem then it will be easier to answer that question. What PPM? 5 to 10 seems to be about right for general use. How does color relate to PPM if it does? That is open for discussion -- and has been My generator makes pale yellow ... (CS?) What gen are you using, are you using quality distilled water? there are lot's more that needs to be considered. That's enough for now, spend a week or so on the internet, there is so much you can learn there. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS and MS Protocol
Hello fellow cs users. I have a friend who has ms and has been confined to a wheel chair for the past 5 years. She also has fibromyalgia and takes medication for the pain. She has to go in the hospital soon to have her kidneys checked as she is having problems in that area also and there is talk that she may have to go on dyalisis. There was someone on this list --Nancy --who had ms and managed to get things under control by using colloidal silver. If anyone on here has that information could you please email it to me. I have been trying to go in and search the archives but so far am unable to get in. It appears they have not gone in and fixed the problem yet or I would look the information up myself. If anyone is able to help me with this it would be much appreciated. My friend's hubby is stopping by this afternoon and I would like to have some of her info to pass on to him. Any help anyone can give me in this directoin would be very much appreciated. Thank you Linda J. Hefferman - Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
CSUpdate on the Archives...
I just heard from Scott who runs escribe.com, the place where our archives are hosted. There was a hardware failure and the system is in the process of being brought back up. Should be soon, but I'd give you no guarantees. Thank you for your patience, everyone. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Greetings all, I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. One of the claims made about this cleanse is that you'll be burning fat to the tune of a pound or two per day. Now, I'm not as interested in such weight loss, though I need it, as I am the cleansing. My worry is the possibility of muscle loss. Something like a cup a day of maple syrup has a *hell* of a lot more than 60 grams of carbohydrate -- the amount most folks can tolerate and stay in a fat-burning mode -- so I can't imagine not triggering an ongoing insulin response. If that happens how can you possibly burn any fat? Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? If not, then is it right to assume that any weight loss will be water and lean muscle tissue? Feel free to take followups to the Off Topic list, if you prefer. Thanks, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about a commercial preparation of CS
I personally use Innovative labs CS. I've had good results and it is my best selling CS in my store. In fact, I have a customer who has controlled his Lyme's disease with the 2000 PPM dose. We have to keep this in stock for him and his Lyme's specialist Dr. can't even believe what its done for him. People on this site claim there is no way to make that strength (and I know they know what they're talking about here) but an extremely generous individual is testing this product for me-so I will post the results when they come in. This product should not be diluted. Of course you can mix it with distilled water but just about a 1/4 of a cup. That's what I do and I've used it for years. Used to suffer form bronchitis twice a year-but no more :) I'll post when I get the results, Good luck, Maryanne Denise Every 7/16/03 1:24 AM A few days ago one of my dogs started up with an itchy ear and I was out of the CS I usually use, so made a quick trip to a local HFS to pick up some for immediate treatment. When I got home, I discovered it was a deep brownish gold color and was supposed to be 500 ppm... I diluted it down with distilled water to 10 ppm, and have been using it for the past several days, without any apparent improvement in his ear. * HI Denise, I have been waiting for responses from posters who should be better able to answer your question about INPs 500 PPM silver. I went to their web site and discovered a few things about the company, first they only sell to retailers, there are no prices available. Not only do they offer a variety of CS, but they also offer a 2,000 PPM variety -- that is very questionable. My suggestion would be to use what you have left on the dog's ears undiluted, and if that doesn't help, get your regular brand which, as you said, has worked in the past. Then return what is left of INP's silver to that HFS for a refund and explain why you are returning it. An honest seller should appreciate knowing of your dissatisfaction with the product, their reputation is riding on selling reliable product. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Kills ALL Bacteria?
Hello ~ I have attempted to get into the archives to seek an answer to my question, but have been unable to access the archives. I have read where many people advise CS kills the good and bad bacteria. I believe it was Don Croft, the creator of the Terminator Zapper, who advised me that CS only kills the bad bacteria. As such, I am looking for info about this. I have a 5 year old nubian goat that I was trying to wean a doeling off of. I was in a hurry...and she got a hard udder on the side this doeling suckles. A friend suggested taking her temp, so I did, and it was 107.3! Normal goat temp is 102.5 to 103.0. She looked/looks great, acted normal, ate as usual, even with this high temp, only noticeable problem was this hard udder. I administered 20-25 cc of CS, Parvaid, and asorbic acid 4x/day for 3 days and her temp has come down to 102.8. I was concerned, since she's a ruminent that she would quit eating, but this has not occurred. So, now I am wondering if oral administration to the 7 year old male with the 'incurable' CAE virus can be done orally, rather than via IV or in conjunction with DMSO. Actually, wondering if I could place CS in the livestock waterers, as this would've prevented the mastitis in the first place, tho of course, I am the responsible party for not having let the doeling suckle often enough, thereby causing this problem in the first place! :-( Would appreciate any thoughts, links, etc. Wondering if just high doses of CS would kill all the beneficial bacteria and that reasonable amounts would not? Thank you for any and all assistance. Julie Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it. Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep. ~ Enyo Johnson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSalt test
I've seen reference to this but have no idea what it is. What exactly is the salt test and how does one use it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
M. G. Devour wrote: Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? Marshall replies: How does one test for that? Ketone test strips you buy from the pharmacy. People on low-carb diets use them to see when they're in ketosis, which is when you're burning fat. Ketones are supposed to be produced as a by-product of fat metabolism and are eliminated in the breath and urine. The strips are *intended* for diabetics, for whom ketosis is an indication of serious problems with their food/insulin balance. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Ruth writes: ... Have you been hungry at all ... feeling weak and/or tired. They say if you do just to drink more lemonade. So far if I'm hungry it's only when I don't do that. Every time I've drunk more in response to hunger it works. I can say I'm having the occasional strong desire to eat stuff during these first couple of days, but that's me. Eventually that goes away, they say. oh yeah... how does it taste?!?! Like lemonade with maple syrup... Not exactly like artificially flavored lemonade mix, nor lemonade with regular sugar. Different, but tastes fine. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Chuck writes: I understand that you've been Atkins type for some time and you must have gone into Lemon already ketogenic? Probably not. I'm eating a lot less carbs than I used to, but lately I've not been limiting them enough to be ketogenic on any kind of regular basis. I also understand that this Lemon diet is only a 10 to 12 day thingy? Right. I think I'd consider this a break and not worry about muscle loss on such a temporary basis. Of course you're not going to stay ketogenic. BTW, not much info included in your post other than 1000 cal/day. About 6 fresh lemons or limes and a cup or so of grade B maple syrup to make about 60 ounces of lemonade. Drink in place of all food. Add cayenne pepper to taste and drink a cup of herbal laxative tea once or twice a day if desired. Note: Atkins used a 1000 cal/day jumpstart in his system consisting of 10 grams of cream cheese/day for not more than 5 days. This was for Hardcases. This'd have nothing to do with cleansing though. Does drop weight quickly though. Drop weight quickly is different than drop *FAT* quickly. That's where you gotta be careful. Between fluid and muscle loss, you can drop a lot of weight really fast, but that's not going to make you healthier. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
I take about an ounce in the morning and an ounce at night of 5 ppm HVAC. When I started in 1998 I was getting a cold or flu almost monthly and would get cold sores about twice a month. Since starting that regime I have not been sick or gotten a cold sore since. However I have started feeling sick, usually after eating something that was going bad, but always got over it within a few minutes if I take an additional few ounces. I got bit by a tick last year and got the bulls eye that indicates lyme. Since I had had lyme before and it took me years to get rid of it with the allopathic medicine, I took about 8 oz of CS a day for a week. I never got sick. Marshall bri...@dlois.com wrote: How much CS does everyone take? Drink an ounce or two? Drink a glass? How often do you do this? What PPM? How does color relate to PPM if it does? My generator makes pale yellow but i've yet to experience this feeling in my mouth or have much luck using it as mouth wash. Can someone share their experiences? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
M. G. Devour wrote: Greetings all, Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? How does one test for that? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Julie writes: Is this lemonade made with fresh lemons? Yep. Or limes. Dr. Sandra Cabot advises, in The Liver Cleansing Diet, that all of her overweight patients lost weight following her plan (over 1500 people). She believes excess weight is attributed to a toxic liver. Yup. That's the general reason why I'm doing this. ... hunger pains go away, skin clears up, and you should feel great. I've experienced the lack of hunger before on juice fasts. I *hope* the skin'll clear up. That's one of the things that bugs me about my condition right now, and suggests to me my liver needs support. If it's cleansing you are looking for, have you tried any of Hulda Clark's methods? We have found her kidney cleanse and liver cleanse fabulous. Got over 600 stones out doing her liver cleanse twice. What an eye opener that was/is, but the proof was in the toilet... Actually, I'm trying to work up to doing her liver cleanse. My, umm, gut tells me that I've got plenty of those stones. I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. I'm planning to use portions of the Beck protocols to accomplish that: zapping (or blood purification), CS, magnetic pulsing, and, instead of ozonated water, that H2O2 in water program recommended by Ol' Bob, among others. These choices are driven by cost, among other things. sigh Saves me having to buy the herbal extracts and an expensive ozonizer. Does that sound reasonable, folks? Again, enjoy your fast. Thank you, ma'am. I'll think twice before I stay on it for more than a week and a half or two, though. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS congestive heart failure questions
Great news about the CHF.Have a look at www.dadamo.com and see if Dr D'Adamos dietary advice can help you loose weight. Good luck, I guess that CHF scare is pretty good incentive to loose weight. Best, Sheila -Original Message- From: mamapug [mailto:mama...@netzero.net] Sent: 21 July 2003 23:13 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS congestive heart failure questions Hi, Guys, I have good news! No congestive heart failure after all! All my tests are normal. Apparently it is a combination of this high heat and too much salt intake that was making me puff up. (I`m still going to take the CoQ 10, it can`t hurt.) I do have to lose weight, as I`m up to 290 now. Yikes! Too many goodies, not enough exercise. Out with the soda pop, candy, cakes, pies, doughnuts, spuds, etc. sigh... Well I`m 51, so it is do it now, or die next year... Wish me luck!! Love, Marshalee, the tub of lard (at least the tub of lard is infection-free, thanks to CS!!) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
How much CS does everyone take? Drink an ounce or two? Drink a glass? How often do you do this? What PPM? How does color relate to PPM if it does? My generator makes pale yellow but i've yet to experience this feeling in my mouth or have much luck using it as mouth wash. Can someone share their experiences? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
I have been considering the Lemonade Fast/Diet myself and would appreciate all info on this as well as your progress, Mike. Have you been hungry at all (I read there shouldn't be a problem with that)? Since I work full time Monday through Friday, that was one of my concerns as well as whether or not you would start feeling weak and/or tired. Please keep us posted and Good Luck!!! Thanks!! Ruth - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse Greetings all, I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. One of the claims made about this cleanse is that you'll be burning fat to the tune of a pound or two per day. Now, I'm not as interested in such weight loss, though I need it, as I am the cleansing. My worry is the possibility of muscle loss. Something like a cup a day of maple syrup has a *hell* of a lot more than 60 grams of carbohydrate -- the amount most folks can tolerate and stay in a fat-burning mode -- so I can't imagine not triggering an ongoing insulin response. If that happens how can you possibly burn any fat? Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? If not, then is it right to assume that any weight loss will be water and lean muscle tissue? Feel free to take followups to the Off Topic list, if you prefer. Thanks, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
oh yeah... how does it taste?!?! - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse Greetings all, I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. One of the claims made about this cleanse is that you'll be burning fat to the tune of a pound or two per day. Now, I'm not as interested in such weight loss, though I need it, as I am the cleansing. My worry is the possibility of muscle loss. Something like a cup a day of maple syrup has a *hell* of a lot more than 60 grams of carbohydrate -- the amount most folks can tolerate and stay in a fat-burning mode -- so I can't imagine not triggering an ongoing insulin response. If that happens how can you possibly burn any fat? Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? If not, then is it right to assume that any weight loss will be water and lean muscle tissue? Feel free to take followups to the Off Topic list, if you prefer. Thanks, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. It doesn't just work better, she strongly suggests you not doing it prior to doing a parasite cleanse, as not only won't it work well, it also is likely to make you sick. however, you can make yourself a zapper for under twenty bucks I've got a nice home-made zapper sitting upstairs as we speak... err, type. grin Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
As an Atkins dieter/fan, I have to tell you that following the atkins diet, both regular and the fat fast - eating cream cheese or other high fat foods, 5 times a day, under 1000 calories, both do put and keep you in ketosis. This is not water loss, muscle loss, JUST weight loss. I was working with the Eades' Protien Power Life Plan. Similar, but a bit less restrictive than Atkins, from my understanding. Knowing all this, I was struck by the claim in the Master Cleanse literature that it would burn fat. Made no sense. Thus my question. I'd like to bomb the parasites and do the liver cleanses, then move back toward Atkins', Eades', or Faigan's programs, and see if it's easier to do with a healthier body to begin with. Thanks, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Mike, I understand that you've been Atkins type for some time and you must have gone into Lemon already ketogenic? I also understand that this Lemon diet is only a 10 to 12 day thingy? I think I'd consider this a break and not worry about muscle loss on such a temporary basis. Of course you're not going to stay ketogenic. BTW, not much info included in your post other than 1000 cal/day. Damn, now I gotta get ANOTHER book. Note: Atkins used a 1000 cal/day jumpstart in his system consisting of 10 grams of cream cheese/day for not more than 5 days. This was for Hardcases. This'd have nothing to do with cleansing though. Does drop weight quickly though. Chuck I got a sweater for Christmas ...I really wanted a screamer or a moaner. On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:16:41 -0005, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Greetings all, I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. One of the claims made about this cleanse is that you'll be burning fat to the tune of a pound or two per day. Now, I'm not as interested in such weight loss, though I need it, as I am the cleansing. My worry is the possibility of muscle loss. Something like a cup a day of maple syrup has a *hell* of a lot more than 60 grams of carbohydrate -- the amount most folks can tolerate and stay in a fat-burning mode -- so I can't imagine not triggering an ongoing insulin response. If that happens how can you possibly burn any fat? Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? If not, then is it right to assume that any weight loss will be water and lean muscle tissue? Feel free to take followups to the Off Topic list, if you prefer. Thanks, all. Mike D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Hi Mike ~ Is this lemonade made with fresh lemons? Dr. Sandra Cabot advises, in The Liver Cleansing Diet, that all of her overweight patients lost weight following her plan (over 1500 people). She believes excess weight is attributed to a toxic liver. Enjoy your fast. Haven't done a juice fast in quite awhile, but after the first 2-3 days, hunger pains go away, skin clears up, and you should feel great. Temps are too hot where we live (100+ degrees) to fast this time of year. If it's cleansing you are looking for, have you tried any of Hulda Clark's methods? We have found her kidney cleanse and liver cleanse fabulous. Got over 600 stones out doing her liver cleanse twice. What an eye opener that was/is, but the proof was in the toilet... Again, enjoy your fast. Julie Critters I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. One of the claims made about this cleanse is that you'll be burning fat to the tune of a pound or two per day. Now, I'm not as interested in such weight loss, though I need it, as I am the cleansing. My worry is the possibility of muscle loss. Something like a cup a day of maple syrup has a *hell* of a lot more than 60 grams of carbohydrate -- the amount most folks can tolerate and stay in a fat-burning mode -- so I can't imagine not triggering an ongoing insulin response. If that happens how can you possibly burn any fat? Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? If not, then is it right to assume that any weight loss will be water and lean muscle tissue? Feel free to take followups to the Off Topic list, if you prefer. Thanks, all. Mike D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMexico Bill Microdyn
Looking for Bill in Mexico? Since the archives are still inaccessible, hoping Bill is still on the list. He said he was using the 3200 ppm Microdyn. I'm having dental work done in Tijuana and have 4 or 5 more trips to complete the work. I have not been able to find microdyn at the pharmacia's, nor supermarkets. Wondering where you buy your microdyn, Bill? Happy Howling, Julie Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it. Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep. ~ Enyo Johnson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Chuck writes: OK, here's a great rundown of what to expect on this cleanse: http://www.yestheyrefake.net/lemonade_diet_cleanse_journal.htm Hehe. I read her site the other night, before beginning my own fast. *She* needs to lose weight? grin There's a couple of other 'blogs' along the same lines. I guess it's a compulsion for some! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Usage
Yeah I had incredible success with CS against the flu, sinus alergies, and sore throat. I have yet to have any luck with using it as mouthwash though. Thanks for the response. - I take about an ounce in the morning and an ounce at night of 5 ppm HVAC. - When I started in 1998 I was getting a cold or flu almost monthly and would - get cold sores about twice a month. Since starting that regime I have not - been sick or gotten a cold sore since. - - However I have started feeling sick, usually after eating something that was - going bad, but always got over it within a few minutes if I take an - additional few ounces. - - I got bit by a tick last year and got the bulls eye that indicates lyme. - Since I had had lyme before and it took me years to get rid of it with the - allopathic medicine, I took about 8 oz of CS a day for a week. I never got - sick. - - Marshall - - bri...@dlois.com wrote: - - How much CS does everyone take? Drink an ounce or two? Drink a - glass? How often do you do this? What PPM? How does color relate to - PPM if it does? My generator makes pale yellow but i've yet to experience - this feeling in my mouth or have much luck using it as mouth wash. Can - someone share their experiences? - - -- - The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. - - Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org - - To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com - - Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html - - List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -
Re: CSSalt test
- I've seen reference to this but have no idea what it is. - - What exactly is the salt test and how does one use it? - *** - It is a test for CS strength that one - list contributor suggests can be used. - As far as I know, on one else considers - that a valid test. - Don't give the idea any further consideration. Why is that? I have a TDS meter but I found after purchase that no one considers that acurate either. - How much CS does everyone take? - How high is up. - - Drink an ounce or two? - I drink 2 oz first thing in the morning, - and wait at least 1 hour before eating anything - so I don't stimulate stomach acid(HCL) production - acid - changes the nature of the CS -- 'nuf said for now on that. - - Drink a glass? - Yeah, my glass holds 2 oz - . - How often do you do this? - I do that once per day as maintenance, but if you are fighting - a problem then the answer might be 4 / 6 / 8 or more glasses, - it will depend on the reason -- if you have a specific problem - then it will be easier to answer that question. Ok i'm on track then. I gargle about 1-2oz in the morning and swallow. My theory was mouthwash but it don't seem to work. I had great luck with the flu, sore throats, and sinus alergies. - What PPM? - 5 to 10 seems to be about right for general use. My TDS meter reads 10-15 after about 45 minutes of generation time. - How does color relate to PPM if it does? - That is open for discussion -- and has been - - My generator makes pale yellow ... - (CS?) What gen are you using, are you using quality - distilled water? there are lot's more that needs to be - considered. I'm still on my first gallon of distilled water so i've yet to try another brand. It reads 1 on the TDS out of the bottle. I bought my generator from Sunstone. - That's enough for now, spend a week or so on the internet, - there is so much you can learn there. I've been researching and following 3 lists for about a year now. I have posted some of my favorites at www.dlois.com/realtruth -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Drop weight quickly is different than drop *FAT* quickly. That's where you gotta be careful. Between fluid and muscle loss, you can drop a lot of weight really fast, but that's not going to make you healthier. As an Atkins dieter/fan, I have to tell you that following the atkins diet, both regular and the fat fast - eating cream cheese or other high fat foods, 5 times a day, under 1000 calories, both do put and keep you in ketosis. This is not water loss, muscle loss, JUST weight loss. This is fat loss. The perfect thing about Atkins is that it is ONLY the fat you lose, if you follow the diet as prescribed. The fat diet that was previously described is done for a max of 10 days, for those who have a very difficult time to get into ketosis. It works. Staying under 15 grams keeps you in ketosis, even the hardest cases. Most of us can do quite a bit more - start at 20 grams, go down if you have to, up if you're able. You measure on a ketostix, to be certain you are staying in ketosis. And as long as you are in ketosis, you do lose FAT, and only fat. When you run out of fat to lose your body uses hhe protein you are eating, converts it to glucose, which it can do, though it prefers the carbs, and turns next to your fat reserves, going to the protein you eat only as a last resort. And if you are doing the diet correctly, by the time you get to that point, you are slowly adding carbs, slowing down your weight loss, preparing for going into maintenace, where you still limit carbs, but only to the level where you don't gain weight. Many folks eat 60-80 grams on maintenace, though there are folks who can only eat 30 before gaining weight - people who have severe insulin resistance. At any rate, just trying to clarify the fat loss aspect. Joy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. It doesn't just work better, she strongly suggests you not doing it prior to doing a parasite cleanse, as not only won't it work well, it also is likely to make you sick. however, you can make yourself a zapper for under twenty bucks, the instructions are on her site, just do a search for Dr. Hulda Clark. Not fancy, ut it works. I used a homemade one for several years, effectively, before purchasing one, and only then for the convenience factors. You can zap with this homemade zapper daily for a week, and then do the liver cleanse. Joy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and MS Protocol
Get the mercury fillings out of her mouth see what Hulda Clark has to say about it. - Original Message - From: Linda Hefferman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: CSCS and MS Protocol Hello fellow cs users. I have a friend who has ms and has been confined to a wheel chair for the past 5 years. She also has fibromyalgia and takes medication for the pain. She has to go in the hospital soon to have her kidneys checked as she is having problems in that area also and there is talk that she may have to go on dyalisis. There was someone on this list --Nancy --who had ms and managed to get things under control by using colloidal silver. If anyone on here has that information could you please email it to me. I have been trying to go in and search the archives but so far am unable to get in. It appears they have not gone in and fixed the problem yet or I would look the information up myself. If anyone is able to help me with this it would be much appreciated. My friend's hubby is stopping by this afternoon and I would like to have some of her info to pass on to him. Any help anyone can give me in this directoin would be very much appreciated. Thank you Linda J. Hefferman -- Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: CSCS and MS Protocol
You are welcome to e-mail me privately at: oilth...@valink.com I will be happy to get you in touch with Marilyn as she just told me that she will be happy to share with others what all she is doing to enhance her health and regain strength. She still has MS, but is getting healthier every day! She has now put her wheelchair and walker away, she has had MS since 1985. Again, e-mail me privately and I will be happy to help you get in touch with her! Sincerely, Orpha www.v4l.com/ProsperandbeinHealth - Original Message - From: twll To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: CSCS and MS Protocol Get the mercury fillings out of her mouth see what Hulda Clark has to say about it. - Original Message - From: Linda Hefferman To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:25 AM Subject: CSCS and MS Protocol Hello fellow cs users. I have a friend who has ms and has been confined to a wheel chair for the past 5 years. She also has fibromyalgia and takes medication for the pain. She has to go in the hospital soon to have her kidneys checked as she is having problems in that area also and there is talk that she may have to go on dyalisis. There was someone on this list --Nancy --who had ms and managed to get things under control by using colloidal silver. If anyone on here has that information could you please email it to me. I have been trying to go in and search the archives but so far am unable to get in. It appears they have not gone in and fixed the problem yet or I would look the information up myself. If anyone is able to help me with this it would be much appreciated. My friend's hubby is stopping by this afternoon and I would like to have some of her info to pass on to him. Any help anyone can give me in this directoin would be very much appreciated. Thank you Linda J. Hefferman Post your free ad now! Yahoo! Canada Personals
Re: CS congestive heart failure questions
Christiane wrote: This is in response to what to replace coumadin with to thin the blood. My understanding is that is it very risky to stop coumadin, and when you wean off of it, it is critical to have your numbers monitored closely. Keeping that in mind I have some input about a possible solution. I have been on Fish Oil in mega doses prescribed by an integrated medicine physician in NYC. I was told to take 12,000 MG per day (with 400IU's Vit. E to supplement). One of the side effects that he warned about was that it would thin my blood and possibly put me at risk for bleeding out during a surgery or severe injury. Due to that risk, I was told to stop it 3 weeks before any surgery, and a bleed time was performed within 24 hours of my procedures to insure safety. So...I don't have any specifics about replacing coumadin, however I'm acutely aware of the blood thinning properties of mega doses of fish oil. I followed Adelle Davis' health advice and gave my youngest daughter cod liver oil from birth. It did make her very healthy: few infections. A few years down the line, she started having problems with nose bleeds, mainly in the winter. After several years of this I finally found out excess Vit. A can cause nose bleeds, and then I took her off fish oil and found if I gave her any she would have nose bleeds again. Question: were the nose bleeds the result of an allergy to fish oils from starting her on them from birth, or does it have something to do with the blood thinning action? Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Ruth, I did the master cleanse over the memorial day holiday, and want to give you some input as to my experience. First of all I was 5'10'' and 297 pounds. I was petrified of hitting 300 and diagnosed inoperable with a chronic disease. It became instantly and abundantly clear that I had to do something drastic to stop my unhealthy eating and self-destructing behavior or I was going to have 6 children wondering what to do to care for themselves. It was a real wake-up call. The members on the list were talking about the Master Cleanse, and I was preparing to begin a high protein, low carb, yeast free diet..and decided VERY spur of the moment to do the cleanse first (to prepare my liver and kidneys). Ruth, let me address some of your concerns. No, I wasn't hungryand that was unfathomable to me. You don't get to be nearly 300 pounds unless you can really EAT..and this girl could EAT! I did find for the first couple of days that I missed having food in my mouth (the act of eating) but I truly wasn't hungry as long as I drank the lemonade regularly. This included going to 4 holiday parties that weekend, and cooking meals for the rest of the family. Each time I started to crave food around me, I simply took a sip of lemonadeand it instantly vanished. I was astonished. I lost 27 pounds during those 10 days and have kept it off as I returned to eating again. In 2 weeks I am going to do the cleanse again. Mike.I really think that my body burned fat. People have been stunned by the difference in my body, and I am DEFINITELY more toned and fit, and MUCH less flabby, even this long after completing the cleanse. I did not exercise during my last cleanse, however I intend to the next time around. Ruth, to address your concern about energy..I had more energy then I have in a long time. I slept less every night, and woke without an alarm feeling refreshed and had a productive and energetic dayall the way through. One thing that I would recommend..if you have to work around a work schedule...make sure you have about an hour and a half every morning after you drink your salt water and before you have to leave your house. It can take that long to pass all the toxins removed from your body from the night before. Yes...it all comes out in your stool.in mostly liquid formrepeatedly (not to be graphic, just to prepare you). As for the taste, the first time I tried it I was surprised that it tasted as good as it did. By day 3 I found myself actually looking forward to each glass...and when I was done with the cleanse, I still wanted to drink it.simply for the taste. ~:-} Another interesting thing that happened to me while on the cleanse is that I was pain free! For the first time in 20 years I had 9 whole days with no pain (which is a big reason why I am doing it again). The only thing that I can account for relieving the pain is that all that lemon juice made my body alkaline and my disease couldn't thrive. With that theory in mind, I have started on coral calcium to recreate that affect in my body, with tremendous results so far...still a long way to go..but MARKED improvement in one short month. I think I pretty much covered all your questions and concerns. Feel free to contact me offlist if you have any more questions as you get started.I assume you will..big smile KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MIKE!!! It's going to be very worth it. Christiane - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse Ruth writes: ... Have you been hungry at all ... feeling weak and/or tired. They say if you do just to drink more lemonade. So far if I'm hungry it's only when I don't do that. Every time I've drunk more in response to hunger it works. I can say I'm having the occasional strong desire to eat stuff during these first couple of days, but that's me. Eventually that goes away, they say. oh yeah... how does it taste?!?! Like lemonade with maple syrup... Not exactly like artificially flavored lemonade mix, nor lemonade with regular sugar. Different, but tastes fine. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
I was working with the Eades' Protien Power Life Plan. Similar, but a bit less restrictive than Atkins, from my understanding. Knowing all this, I was struck by the claim in the Master Cleanse literature that it would burn fat. Made no sense. Thus my question. Got ya, I wasn't following the early part of this thread. Sorry. It does seem strange, yet not logically but intuitively it feels right to me that you could go into ketosis that way - different mechanism than simply lowering the carbs; but still seems right to me. I have a friend who lost a lot of weight by going on a chocolate diet to get into ketosis. She loved chocolate, couldn't do without it, so she ate nithing but chocolate - tons of it, for ten days at a time, then did a week of as sensible, balanced, but calorie limited eating as she could, then went back on ten days of the chocolate. She did go into ketosis. It wasn't that healthy a diet, but it was what she could do. Today she could do atkins using sugar free chocolate, but this was years ago before there was such a thing. Doesn't make logical sense, but it worked. I'd like to bomb the parasites and do the liver cleanses, then move back toward Atkins', Eades', or Faigan's programs, and see if it's easier to do with a healthier body to begin with. Makes sense to me. Even though I've been on the clark stuff for years, I redid the full parasite cleanse, kidney cleanse, and liver cleanse right before starting on Atkins, for the same reason. This diet can be hard on the kidneys especially - though drinking plenty of fluid - in my case, 14 glasses a day of it - groan - helps. Joy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Ketostix, avaiable at any pharmacy. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse M. G. Devour wrote: Greetings all, Does anybody ever see ketones in their urine with this program? How does one test for that? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion about a commercial preparation of CS
Innovative Labs CS ( according to their website ) has CS that is in the particle range of 0.004 and 0.107 microns. I would not be suprised at all to find this concentration. However, this is obviously a stabilized compound. They avoid the topic very well on their corporate website. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Pow-Map pow-...@ameritech.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 8:17 AM Subject: Re: CSQuestion about a commercial preparation of CS I personally use Innovative labs CS. I've had good results and it is my best selling CS in my store. In fact, I have a customer who has controlled his Lyme's disease with the 2000 PPM dose. We have to keep this in stock for him and his Lyme's specialist Dr. can't even believe what its done for him. People on this site claim there is no way to make that strength (and I know they know what they're talking about here) but an extremely generous individual is testing this product for me-so I will post the results when they come in. This product should not be diluted. Of course you can mix it with distilled water but just about a 1/4 of a cup. That's what I do and I've used it for years. Used to suffer form bronchitis twice a year-but no more :) I'll post when I get the results, Good luck, Maryanne Denise Every 7/16/03 1:24 AM A few days ago one of my dogs started up with an itchy ear and I was out of the CS I usually use, so made a quick trip to a local HFS to pick up some for immediate treatment. When I got home, I discovered it was a deep brownish gold color and was supposed to be 500 ppm... I diluted it down with distilled water to 10 ppm, and have been using it for the past several days, without any apparent improvement in his ear. * HI Denise, I have been waiting for responses from posters who should be better able to answer your question about INPs 500 PPM silver. I went to their web site and discovered a few things about the company, first they only sell to retailers, there are no prices available. Not only do they offer a variety of CS, but they also offer a 2,000 PPM variety -- that is very questionable. My suggestion would be to use what you have left on the dog's ears undiluted, and if that doesn't help, get your regular brand which, as you said, has worked in the past. Then return what is left of INP's silver to that HFS for a refund and explain why you are returning it. An honest seller should appreciate knowing of your dissatisfaction with the product, their reputation is riding on selling reliable product. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 18:59:13 -0005, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: About 6 fresh lemons or limes and a cup or so of grade B maple syrup to make about 60 ounces of lemonade. Drink in place of all food. Add cayenne pepper to taste and drink a cup of herbal laxative tea once or twice a day if desired. 153 carbs per cup of maple syrup. Chuck KNOW YOUR STATE MOTTO Connecticut: Like Massachusetts, Only The Kennedy's Don't Own It Yet -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
OK, here's a great rundown of what to expect on this cleanse: http://www.yestheyrefake.net/lemonade_diet_cleanse_journal.htm Chuck KNOW YOUR STATE MOTTO Hawaii: Haka Tiki Mou Sha'ami Leeki Toru (Death To Mainland Scum, Leave Your Money) On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:16:41 -0005, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: I'm in day 3 of a lemonade fast, as advocated by Stanley Burroughs and his many followers. It amounts to about 1000 calories per day, all from the sugar in the maple syrup. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS
Re: CS Requests For Lab Test on ULVDC CS Hi Jason, Thanks for the really great comments. In a lot of things, I couldn't agree with you more. I love your comments on Frank's Mesosilver on your forum page. It's so good, it's worth repeating here: Welcome! There's nothing wrong with Mesosilver. There is, however, quite a bit wrong with their unsubstantiated philosophy that silver ions are not effective in the body. They tend to over-simplify the biological processes to a few simple chemical reactions. I've spoken with numerous chemists who disagree with their base idea that silver chloride always remains silver chloride in the body. They ignore metalloproteins, and a whole host of other possible chemical reactions that could take place. Experience, while certainly not scientific proof, indicates that ionic silver is greatly effective. Based on their claims, their product should be at least 9 times more effective, when compared with the other top electrically isolated silvers out there. I have yet to see evidence that this is the case. With less refined isolated colloidal silver products, it should be over 100X more effective. As an example, I just recently spent quite a bit of time on the phone speaking with someone who cured a case of neurosyphilis by drinking silver chloride. If the makers of Mesosilver were correct, then this individual should be six feet under about now. If he had listened to them, he would also be six feet under about now, as he would likely have abandoned his usage, and would not have been able to afford to purchase their product. I've viewed numerous testimonials from those using Mesosilver, and have spoken with quite a few users. I've also had numerous conversations with the founder of silvercolloids.com. The staff has a great deal of knowledge and is very committed to their product. However, they are completely biased. Furthermore, I have been told there is no interest in actually PROVING their claims. They are willing to rest on their beliefs, which is of course their right. While their product is certainly a quality colloidal silver, I haven't seen anything to indicate that it works better than the best ionic silver's out there. There is, however, plenty of clinical and scientific proof concerning the effect of silver ions. The works of Dr. Robert O. Becker, Dr. Bart Flick, among others clearly show the potential benefit of silver ions in the human body, provided they of course ARE in a usable form. Silver ions from silver-coated catheders work just fine as well: http://www.silverinstitute.org/silvnews/2001/4b01.html You may also want to read the following mini-articles carefully: http://www.somaticsplus.com/health_hints/hhls7a.html Best Regards, - Jason Last edited by AVRA on Thu May 15, 2003 7:56 pm; edited 1 time in total http://www.silvermedicine.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12sid=5ee9f6e687277e5da0f16fb1d7e9165e Yes, I think you will find many people who agree with your assessment of Frank's claims. I don't know about the guy who cured neurosyphilis with silver chloride. If silver chloride worked that well, we'd all be adding salt as a starter to make cs. Most people stopped doing that a long time ago. I think you'll find that many people here agree with you that ionic silver is the true workhorse in colloidal silver. Robert and Marshall certainly do, and I definitely agree. My experience with high ionic silver and the Shingles and cold virus came as a complete surprise, and convinced me of this fact. Low ionic silver is great for bacteria, and when you are young and have a vigorous immune system. But as you age, the immune system starts to degrade, and the 10 ppm or so you get from the 3 nines is no longer adequate. Nearly all cs generators will work against bacteria, but many viruses are a lot harder to kill. The SARS virus terrified the world and killed a high percentage of the people it infected, even with the best medical care possible. Most doctors seem convinced the next one is only a matter of time. The West Nile virus is now in the US, and it is spreading. It has a low death rate, but it can cause serious damage. Other terrible viruses can spread from their source, and there is nothing medical science can do to stop them. So I think we should pay a great deal of attention on how the cs process works and what it takes to produce high ionic silver reliably. One of the best ways to see if a particular electrode arrangement or current density works better is to have a quick and reliable way to
Re: CSOT ... Fat burning and The Master Cleanse
Hmm, Maybe the chocolate fast would work for me--I've tried the master cleanse thing a few times and never made it 24 hours yet. The low blood sugar effects and the stomach pain feeling is just too much for me--but then I'm almost 60 and have never managed to fast a day in my life so far on ANY type of fasting plan. paula - Original Message - From: Sara Joy sara...@mobil1.net It does seem strange, yet not logically but intuitively it feels right to me that you could go into ketosis that way - different mechanism than simply lowering the carbs; but still seems right to me. I have a friend who lost a lot of weight by going on a chocolate diet to get into ketosis. She loved chocolate, couldn't do without it, so she ate nithing but chocolate - tons of it, for ten days at a time, then did a week of as sensible, balanced, but calorie limited eating as she could, then went back on ten days of the chocolate. She did go into ketosis. It wasn't that healthy a diet, but it was what she could do. Today she could do atkins using sugar free chocolate, but this was years ago before there was such a thing. Doesn't make logical sense, but it worked. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiver/oparasite cleanse: MikeD
I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. I'm planning to use portions of the Beck protocols to accomplish that: zapping (or blood purification), CS, magnetic pulsing, and, instead of ozonated water, that H2O2 in water program recommended by Ol' Bob, among others. Hey Mike, I am interested in doing this too, can you elaborate on your specific plans? I too would like to avoid spending a zillion$$. And for anyone else who cares to respond, what's you favorite zapper, and where did you buy it? BTW for all who were following my dd's uti saga, there is a marked improvement since we found out all the stuff she was allergic to and changed her diet. Now when she has something she shouldn't she get's colitis. These are mostly due to not reading labels closely enough, so I am pretty sure that once she has had some time off from the offending foods her immune system should balance itself out. ( I hope ) I haven't taken her off the antibiotic she's on yet ( chicken ), she's still scheduled for the VCUG test next week, but I may just postpone that depending on how this week goes. Thanks very much to all who made suggestions. You have all helped tremendously. Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSlyme success helped by silver
hi all i am doing well as regards lyme disease over a year after bite. i feel the 2 ounces a day of ionic silver 5ppm had been a real help. i tell lymies it works period, and that they should augment their oral abx with it. many new cases of lyme are just undermedicated and rather than fight the docs on abx, i say hit the lyme with high allicin enteric garlic capsules and the silver too. a three pronged attack add perhaps an immune booster like immunocal. i feel confident that my dosing schedule and low ppm take me out of risk for the blue stuff. i don't recommend people do 2 ounces forever, but i am a believer that a tablespoon a day may be a good thing even in health. any other suggestions for lyme on this list please chime in. -- best william meyer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiver/oparasite cleanse: MikeD
Hi Sharon ~ We are very happy with the Terminator Zapper by Don Croft - http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com We chose his model over others, as it can be worn daily, infact he suggests wearing it for 30 days straight, and then only as needed. No hand holding copper handles and having to sit still while zapping, as is the case with most other models. I would seriously consider the parasite cleanse for her, as this may help her allergies as it helped mine (luckily, I was only allergic to two things). It should also help her digestion. Also, have a traditional nurse client who has started using our CS regularly and besides not getting sick on a monthly basis, as she had done for years and years; and no longer having to sleep sitting upright at night (otherwise she'd drown in her sinus fluids); or take prescription medications for her sinuses; she has noted she no longer needs her allergy medications for seasonal allergies. All this, from taking 1 tsp. straight CS once or twice/day for 5 days/week. Good to hear you are seeking out alternatives. When you're ready, dump the antibiotic, you will find CS handles most everything and at much less toxic expense to the human body. Hugs, Howls, Health, Happiness, Julie Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it. Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep. ~ Enyo Johnson - Original Message - From: Sharon tala...@teleport.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: CSLiver/oparasite cleanse: MikeD I recall that the liver cleanse works better if you've done a parasite cleanse in advance. I'm planning to use portions of the Beck protocols to accomplish that: zapping (or blood purification), CS, magnetic pulsing, and, instead of ozonated water, that H2O2 in water program recommended by Ol' Bob, among others. Hey Mike, I am interested in doing this too, can you elaborate on your specific plans? I too would like to avoid spending a zillion$$. And for anyone else who cares to respond, what's you favorite zapper, and where did you buy it? BTW for all who were following my dd's uti saga, there is a marked improvement since we found out all the stuff she was allergic to and changed her diet. Now when she has something she shouldn't she get's colitis. These are mostly due to not reading labels closely enough, so I am pretty sure that once she has had some time off from the offending foods her immune system should balance itself out. ( I hope ) I haven't taken her off the antibiotic she's on yet ( chicken ), she's still scheduled for the VCUG test next week, but I may just postpone that depending on how this week goes. Thanks very much to all who made suggestions. You have all helped tremendously. Sharon -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
