Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[DebMark]

yes, please email me it.  Thanks.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jan Stoeten 
  To: Silver List 
  Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:23 PM
  Subject: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


  Hi everyone,

  I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web 
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I will 
be placing it on my future website in full. 

  All the best,
  Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

Re: CSteeth-need help-cs

[Marshall Dudley]

It is my understanding tht Oz is not colloidal silver at all but MSP or a
compound, I don't remember which.

Marshall

sandee George wrote:

 May I beg your pardon the Oz Colloidal Silver is
 mostly 15 ppm !!!
 Regards
 Sandee

 
 The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
 Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
 Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

 --
 The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

 Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

 To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

 Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

 List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

CStest

[a rose...]

test, checking posting glitch...



--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

RE: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[Richard Harris]

Hi Jan,

Thanks you for all the good information you share with us seekers. I would
appreciate your Seath By Medicine Word Document.

Sincerely,
Richard Haris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  -Original Message-
  From: DebMark [mailto:spa...@warwick.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 6:31 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


  yes, please email me it.  Thanks.
- Original Message -
From: Jan Stoeten
To: Silver List
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


Hi everyone,

I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I
will be placing it on my future website in full.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

Re: CStest

[Garnet]

Me too, messages are bouncing.

Garnet

On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 08:04, a rose... wrote:
 test, checking posting glitch...
 
 
 
 --
 The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
 
 Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
 
 To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
 
 Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html
 
 List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 
  


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz

[Marshall Dudley]

I thought you were talking about Water OZ, which is made in the usa, and is
NOT colloidal silver.  This product is not made by others.

Marshall

sandee George wrote:

 No Marshall, it is genuine Colloidal Silver and most
 who sell it have a reading of 15 ppm - I learned
 the process there myself and am now manufacturing
 it here on the Island of Grenada for local and regional
 use - take care and enjoy a super wonderful day and
 thanks for all the wonderful input from all on the site.
 Regards
 Sandee

 
 The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
 Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
 Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

 --
 The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

 Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

 To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

 Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

 List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSneed help-teeth

[Scott Maryanne Powers]

Thank you!
- Original Message - 
From: TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: CSneed help-teeth


 Suggest a GOOD colloidal or green powder vitamin/mineral and lots vit c
and
 CS of course.



 TJ Garland, CMO supplier
there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.





 From: Scott  Maryanne Powers pow-...@ameritech.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSneed help-teeth
 Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:26:23 -0500
 
 I'm trying to help my sister and thought some one here might have heard
of
 this before.  Basically, she's 45 years old and has 3 loose teeth (only
the
 front ones).  She's got an appointment with the dentist and takes CS
daily.
   The only suggestion I had was for to try and keep the CS in her mouth
for
 6 minutes.
 Thank you in advance,
 Mag
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- Original Message -
From: David S Osborne
To: luceli...@hotmail.com ; ed...@alltel.net ; stuie...@yahoo.com ;
 are...@aol.com ; saltma...@aol.com ; silver-list@eskimo.com ;
 skhain...@zianet.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: CSref pending vitamin/supplement legislation
 
 
please help!
 
the pending legislation ref vitamins, supplements, etc is
 really
terrible. If it goes thru it will be an unbelievable blow to our
freedom
and an incredible victory for the drug companies.
 
I am not sure the links below will work but you can log on to:
www.puritan.com  and click on the blinkie thing in the upper
 right
which saysTake Action
Now
This will lead you to be able
to
 send e-mails
to your congress people,
voicing
   your 'no'
vote to S. 722  and support of
 S.  1538
 
this is a slimmed down version of what you'll find at www.puritan.com
 [which is Puritan's Pride, the Vitamin outfit. (I have dealt with them
for
 years)]:
 
  PROTECT YOUR ACCESS TO VITAMINS AND NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS THE
 GOVERNMENT MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO LIMIT THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF AMERICAN
 CONSUMERS WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR HEALTH. Don't Let Congress Overturn the
 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Support S. 1538 and
 Oppose S. 722 Because the Food and Drug Administration has failed to
fully
 uphold the law, Congress is looking into making changes that will
undermine
 many of the freedoms that American consumers of dietary supplements hold
 dear. SUPPORT S. 1538 No more excuses from the Food and Drug
 Administration! Give the FDA the resources it needs to implement DSHEA!
 This bill will eliminate the Food and Drug Administration's favorite
 excuses that it doesn't have enough staff, money or power to regulate
 supplements. The FDA has fallen short when it comes to enforcing the law.
 Support research that validates the safety, effectiveness and quality of
 dietary supplements. Because dietary supplements come from natural
 ingredients, they can't be patented. While this insures that these
products
 are readily-and affordably - available, it takes away the ability of
 manufacturers to recoup research costs. The bill doubles the funding
given
 to the Office of Dietary Supplements to expand research and consumer
 information about these products. Hold the government accountable for its
 actions. This bill will require the FDA to file annual reports to
Congress
 about how they're regulating dietary supplements. If they fail in their
 responsibilities to fully implement the law, they'll be held accountable.
 OPPOSE S. 722 The Food and Drug Administration must not be granted new
and
 unprecedented authority to subject safe and beneficial products to
 additional and unnecessary scrutiny. This bill would subject nearly all
 vitamins, minerals, herbal products and other supplements to a level of
 scrutiny that is both unwarranted and unnecessary. Products that have
been
 used safely for hundreds and in some cases, thousands of years would be
 subject to clinical evaluation using standards that are at the complete
 discretion of the FDA. Click here to view S. 722.
 http://www.nnfa.org/services/government/pdf/s722.pdf The government
must
 not be allowed to limit the freedom of choice of American consumers when
it
 comes to their health. By questioning the safety of any dietary
supplement
 that receives even one complaint, hundreds of products that have been
 safely and beneficially used could be removed from the marketplace. Under
 this new legislation, the FDA has complete discretion to make this
 determination, regardless of whether the product was used under
conditions
 cautioned against by the manufacturer on the label. The government must
not
 be allowed to single-out dietary supplements. By almost every measure,
and
 by a wide margin, 

Re: CSneed help-teeth

[Scott Maryanne Powers]

thank you!
- Original Message - 
From: Garnet garnetri...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: CSneed help-teeth


 I mix DMSO into the CS for better penetration. With the addition of DMSO
 the abcessed tooth I am trying to delay work on has been totally pain
 free. With CS alone I did not get as good a result. I use anywhere from
 10-30% DMSO with 10 ppm CS and hold it in my mouth swishing it around
 for as long as I can. I swallow it but it makes my stomach a bit warm
 and sometimes queasy if I have much food in there.
 
 She could also paint it on the front teeth, but the longer it is in
 contact the better in my mind.
 
 Garnet
 
 
 On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 22:26, Scott  Maryanne Powers wrote:
  I'm trying to help my sister and thought some one here might have
  heard of this before.  Basically, she's 45 years old and has 3 loose
  teeth (only the front ones).  She's got an appointment with the
  dentist and takes CS daily.  The only suggestion I had was for to try
  and keep the CS in her mouth for 6 minutes.
  Thank you in advance,
  Mag 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
  - Original Message - 
  From: David S Osborne
  To: luceli...@hotmail.com ; ed...@alltel.net ;
  stuie...@yahoo.com ; are...@aol.com ; saltma...@aol.com ;
  silver-list@eskimo.com ; skhain...@zianet.com
  Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 8:09 PM
  Subject: CSref pending vitamin/supplement legislation
  
  please help!
   
  the pending legislation ref vitamins, supplements,
  etc is really
  terrible. If it goes thru it will be an unbelievable blow to
  our freedom
  and an incredible victory for the drug companies.
   
  I am not sure the links below will work but you can log on to:
  www.puritan.com  and click on the blinkie thing in the
  upper right
  which saysTake
  Action Now
  This will lead you to
  be able to send e-mails
  to your congress
  people, voicing  your 'no'
  vote to S. 722  and
  support of S.  1538
   
  this is a slimmed down version of what you'll find at
  www.puritan.com  [which is Puritan's Pride, the Vitamin
  outfit. (I have dealt with them for years)]:
   
  PROTECT YOUR ACCESS TO VITAMINS AND NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENTS
  THE GOVERNMENT MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO LIMIT THE FREEDOM OF
  CHOICE OF AMERICAN CONSUMERS WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR HEALTH.
  Don't Let Congress Overturn the Dietary Supplement Health and
  Education Act of 1994 Support S. 1538 and Oppose S. 722
  Because the Food and Drug Administration has failed to fully
  uphold the law, Congress is looking into making changes that
  will undermine many of the freedoms that American consumers of
  dietary supplements hold dear. SUPPORT S. 1538 No more excuses
  from the Food and Drug Administration! Give the FDA the
  resources it needs to implement DSHEA! This bill will
  eliminate the Food and Drug Administration's favorite excuses
  that it doesn't have enough staff, money or power to regulate
  supplements. The FDA has fallen short when it comes to
  enforcing the law. Support research that validates the safety,
  effectiveness and quality of dietary supplements. Because
  dietary supplements come from natural ingredients, they can't
  be patented. While this insures that these products are
  readilyand affordably available, it takes away the ability of
  manufacturers to recoup research costs. The bill doubles the
  funding given to the Office of Dietary Supplements to expand
  research and consumer information about these products. Hold
  the government accountable for its actions. This bill will
  require the FDA to file annual reports to Congress about how
  they're regulating dietary supplements. If they fail in their
  responsibilities to fully implement the law, they'll be held
  accountable. OPPOSE S. 722 The Food and Drug Administration
  must not be granted new and unprecedented authority to subject
  safe and beneficial products to additional and unnecessary
  scrutiny. This bill would subject nearly all vitamins,
  minerals, herbal products and other supplements to a level of
  scrutiny that is both unwarranted and unnecessary. Products
  that have been used safely for hundreds and in some cases,
  thousands of years would be subject to clinical 

Re: CSteeth-need help-cs

[Scott Maryanne Powers]

Thank you all for your help and time.  I've forwarded her your suggestions and 
she is anxious to try them out.  She has all the products mentioned! 
Thanks again,
Mag
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan B. Britten 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: CSteeth-need help-cs


  lef.org specifically mentions oil of oregano as a powerful alternative 
antibiotic. (They make no mention of CS, incidentally.) A site called Anatolian 
Treasures has good prices on oil of oregano; the owner claims he gets the best 
oils directly from Turkey. I recall the prices being quite attractive. 

  R.e. vitamin C: in Japan, every convenience store carries a lozenge product 
that looks like a packet of candy, called VC 3000. It contains ten or so 
lozenges (sugarfree), consisting mainly of Vitamin C and zinc. 

  When getting ill, I promptly buy several packs and take the lozenges at 
regular intervals over the course of a day. It is one of the most powerful 
medicines I have ever used, and cheap at ¥100 per pack. 


  JBB



  On Monday, Mar 1, 2004, at 04:17 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:


Vitamin C is for the immune system as gasoline is to the movement of an 
automobile. The immune system will not work without vitamin C...the sicker you 
are the more you need. Its the same as driving from A to B... the greater that 
distance, the more fuel you will need.
 
Now Foods of Canada sells (through resellers...on the web) 100% pure 
Oregano Oil, 1 fl. oz. (30 ml) for $10 or less. You will have to dilute it at 3 
parts virgin olive oil and 1 part pure Oregano oil. This means that you end up 
getting 4 fl. oz. (120 ml) for the bargain price of $10. I myself have 
purchased it on the net for this price but forgot where. You will have to do a 
search.
 
All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

- Original Message -
From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: CSteeth-need help-cs

   My mother once had a similar problem involving her lower front teeth.  
The dentist wanted to do expensive surgery for advanced pyrohhea.  When Mom 
said she simply didn't have the money, they told her of a simple procedure, but 
added that no one ever would really do it.  Anyway, it involved brushing in the 
am and then holding grocery store hydrogen peroxide in the mouth for two 
minutes (then spit it out) and she had to do this in the evening before bed 
also.  She was also given some antibiotics to take for a month or so.I 
believe the antibiotics can be left out if you will swish four times per day 
(for at least 30 secs and hopefully much longer) with colloidal silver with 3 
or 4 drops of DMSO added to each mouthful.  What that does for tooth and gum 
problems is just about unbelievable.  And she needs to take lots of Vit. C too. 
  Sorry I can't be more specific but this was about 40 years ago. n! bs! p; I 
also can suggest oil of oregano (DILUTED WITH OLIVE OIL OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO 
A 50/50 CONCENTRATION) on the worst places.  This will be uncomfortable but not 
much can survive it. :)  :)   If you don't dilute it, you will have one of 
those experiences of which time does not dull the memory.  Best wishes.   pj




  image.tiff


Do you Yahoo!?
Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail

CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz

[sandee George]

No Marshall, it is genuine Colloidal Silver and most
who sell it have a reading of 15 ppm - I learned
the process there myself and am now manufacturing
it here on the Island of Grenada for local and regional
use - take care and enjoy a super wonderful day and
thanks for all the wonderful input from all on the site.
Regards
Sandee


The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[David S Osborne]

thas tru, but acrdng to my puter, the total = less than 300k in word,
less than
600k in .rtf, why not just attach it.  Mikes not looking..
It is very interesting reading and thanks so much for calling our
attention to it.
davido

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 02:51:14 +0100 Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
writes:
There is a big difference: the document you mention is stretched out over
6 consecutive web pages. The document I refer to is single page view and
rather neatly put together. That is of course not an attempt to diminish
the quality of the web document. On the contrary, their site is neatly
structured and very well designed. The only thing is, if you want to save
the web document, you have to save 6 seperate webpages. If you want to
forward the web document, you have to include 6 different files. Just
right for people who have nothing to do!

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
- Original Message - 
From: David S Osborne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


..or, one could go here and get it:

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_awsi_death_01.htm

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:06:43 +0100 Jan Stoeten jstoe...@xs4all.nl
writes:
I would like to append the following offer by requesting all of you to
include your private email address. Otherwise everything will end up on
the eskimo list. Thanks.
- Original Message - 
From: Jan Stoeten 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 11:23 PM
Subject: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


Hi everyone,

I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I
will be placing it on my future website in full. 

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S

[sol]

Teeth back to white by rinsing and holding a solution of 50% water and 
50% 3% Hydrogen peroxide. I usually do this before each CS rinse anyway, 
as it helps the CS rinse work better.

paula

Marian  Hounds wrote:


Geepers Rose,

I just realized that the stirrer in my Generator is already grey 
where  it goes into the water while the CS is brewing.   Now *I* also 
need to  know about this.   And if it does change color, how can you 
change it  back?(so many smart folks here, I expect to get answers 
to both  questions.)






--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSteeth-need help-cs

[sol]

I thought it was silver citrate, perhaps I'm not recalling accurately.
paula

Marshall Dudley wrote:


It is my understanding tht Oz is not colloidal silver at all but MSP or a
compound, I don't remember which.

Marshall

sandee George wrote:

 


May I beg your pardon the Oz Colloidal Silver is
mostly 15 ppm !!!
Regards
Sandee


The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
   




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com



 





--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

CSTo Richard Harris

[Jan Stoeten]

Hello Richard,
Can you give me another email address. I keep getting the following:


The original message was received at Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:57:49 +0100 (CET)
from a80-126-229-158.adsl.xs4all.nl [80.126.229.158]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
yr...@cfl.rr.com
(reason: 550 5.7.1 Mail Refused - 194.109.24 - See 
http://security.rr.com/mail_blocks.htm#security - 20040301)

   - Transcript of session follows -
... while talking to flmx-2.tampabay.rr.com.:
 MAIL From:jstoe...@xs4all.nl
 550 5.7.1 Mail Refused - 194.109.24 - See 
http://security.rr.com/mail_blocks.htm#security - 20040301
554 5.0.0 Service unavailable

888

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

Re: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz

[Charles Sutton]

Someone needs to test this Silver Oz again.  My understanding from all the
previous posts is that it is definitely Mild Silver Protein (MSP). MSP is a
factor in Argeria, true??

- Original Message - 
From: sandee George oha...@juno.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz


 No Marshall, it is genuine Colloidal Silver and most
 who sell it have a reading of 15 ppm - I learned
 the process there myself and am now manufacturing
 it here on the Island of Grenada for local and regional
 use - take care and enjoy a super wonderful day and
 thanks for all the wonderful input from all on the site.
 Regards
 Sandee

 
 The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
 Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
 Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!


 --
 The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

 Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

 To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

 Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

 List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com



--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

RE: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[Bruce Anderson]

  -Original Message-
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


   I would like a copy .  Thanks.
  Bruce Anderson
- Original Message -
From: Jan Stoeten
To: Silver List
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:23 PM
Subject: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT


Hi everyone,

I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I
will be placing it on my future website in full.

All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.596 / Virus Database: 379 - Release Date: 2/26/2004

CS[Ralph] CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[Ralph D.Gerhardt]

Jan,

Yes, I would like a copy.  Please send to ral...@stic.net .

Ralph


At 11:23 PM 3/1/04 +0100, you wrote:

Hi everyone,

I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web 
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I 
will be placing it on my future website in full.


All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

Re: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz

[Jason Eaton]

Hi Charles:

I believe that Water OZ was determined to be a silver citrate by Frank Key.

Such a product would not be in my top ten for internal use!

Best Regards,

Jason

- Original Message -
From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net
To: sandee George oha...@juno.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz


 Someone needs to test this Silver Oz again.  My understanding from all the
 previous posts is that it is definitely Mild Silver Protein (MSP). MSP is
a
 factor in Argeria, true??

 - Original Message -
 From: sandee George oha...@juno.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:49 AM
 Subject: CSRe: Colloidal Silver in Oz


  No Marshall, it is genuine Colloidal Silver and most
  who sell it have a reading of 15 ppm - I learned
  the process there myself and am now manufacturing
  it here on the Island of Grenada for local and regional
  use - take care and enjoy a super wonderful day and
  thanks for all the wonderful input from all on the site.
  Regards
  Sandee
 
  
  The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
  Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
  Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
 
 
  --
  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
 
  Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
 
  To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
 
  Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
  OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html
 
  List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 


 --
 The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

 Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

 To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

 Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
 OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

 List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com




---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 02/21/2004


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

CSnasal spray (mist) bottles

[Sandy . Green]

Hi everyone,
 
We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component 
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very 
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He has 
softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less than 25 
minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  
 
Sandy


-
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster.

RE: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles

[Medwith, Robert]

How do we Order, I would like 15.
How much would shiping be on 15
 
Bob

-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com]
On Behalf Of Sandy . Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,
 
We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He
has softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less
than 25 minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  
 
Sandy



  _  

Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking
http://search.yahoo.com/?fr=ad-mailsig-home for faster.

Re: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles

[Lynda Khula]

Messagehi I would like ten
please let me know how do I order
thanks Lynda

- Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert 
  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles


  How do we Order, I would like 15.
  How much would shiping be on 15

  Bob
-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Sandy . Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,

We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component 
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very 
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He has 
softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less than 25 
minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  

Sandy



Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster.

RE: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[sscsr1]

Yes Please and thanks for taking the time and effort.

Jeff

 

-Original Message-
From: Jan Stoeten [mailto:jstoe...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:24 PM
To: Silver List
Subject: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've created a zipped Word document of Le Magazine's most recent web
document, Death by Medicine. If you would like it emailed, let me know. I
will be placing it on my future website in full. 

 

All the best,

Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands

RE: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[Wayne Fugitt]

Here is a download link, if anyone failed get the document by email.

http://www.fugitt.com/files/LE%20Magazine%20March%202004Word.zip

or the link before it is expanded by the browser.

http://www.fugitt.com/files/LE Magazine March 2004Word.zip
You might have to paste this one, but they both work fro `e.  I have tested 
both links.


In addition, I will have the file on my site as a doc file and added to my 
article page.


Thanks Jan, the file was beautifully formatted   better than I usually do.

Wait an hour of two before you check this article page, I have some other 
tasks right now.

  www.fugitt.com/article.htm


Wyne


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

RE: CSRe: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S

[James Holmes]

Is that the same as 1.5% hydrogen peroxide?

JOH

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S


 Teeth back to white by rinsing and holding a solution of 50% water and 
50% 3% Hydrogen peroxide. I usually do this before each CS rinse anyway, 
as it helps the CS rinse work better.
paula

Marian  Hounds wrote:

 Geepers Rose,

 I just realized that the stirrer in my Generator is already grey 
 where  it goes into the water while the CS is brewing.   Now *I* also 
 need to  know about this.   And if it does change color, how can you 
 change it  back?(so many smart folks here, I expect to get answers 
 to both  questions.)




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive:
http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles

[Marcela Weiland]

I would like to buy a few too, please let me know how I can order them.

thanks



From: Lynda Khula ne...@clinic.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:53:53 -0500

Messagehi I would like ten
please let me know how do I order
thanks Lynda

- Original Message -
  From: Medwith, Robert
  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles


  How do we Order, I would like 15.
  How much would shiping be on 15

  Bob
-Original Message-
From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Sandy . Green

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSnasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,

We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 
component plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. 
We were very lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical 
company. He has softened his requirements and we can now supply in 
quantities of less than 25 minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.


Sandy



Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster.


_
Learn how to help protect your privacy and prevent fraud online at Tech 
Hacks  Scams. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/techsafety.armx



--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

CSCS Generator the Bio-available Ion vs. Particle Surface Debate

[Jodi Waldman Menard]

I'm new here, but let me
say that I'm very grateful to have found all of you in one place! This
is my first posting on my first list (hope I do it right). Many of you
are knowledgeable, generous, and helpful and I'm very grateful you take
the time out of your busy schedules to share what you know. Thank
you. I've been taking CS for a couple of years now, from several
different sources, and I'm convinced it helped to wipe out my Hep C. I
was very sick before, but not now. In fact, no one in my family has
been to a doctor since we started on it. Anyway, I've been researching
CS online hoping to learn enough to be able to get a good generator to
make it at home (I give it away to
everyone - family, animals and friends - so it doesn't make a lot of
sense to keep buying it at this rate), but I seem to need a little
input from those who aren't hoping to make a profit from me. While
reading up on it, 2 totally conflicting theories on CS came up. From
what I can gather, the first camp bases their theory on studies
performed outside of the body in laboratory dishes, and they insist
that only the surface of silver "particles" effectively kill germs.
They are convinced that silver particles must come into contact with
the offensive germ for the CS to be effective and that silver "ions"
will interact with salt in our saliva, stomachs and blood to form
silver chloride (? - please excuse me if I use an incorrect term) which
is useless. Whereas the second camp believes, especially when dealing
with viruses and germs inside of the body, that the bio-availability of
silver ions is the one and only thing that makes CS effective, and not
the silver particles, because the body is unable to break down the full
particles for use (?). They say that the body makes metallaproteins to
keep silver ions from interacting with saline in our bodies and that
metalloproteins safely transport silver ions throughout the body to
kill offensive germs. Now, I've been told that home CS generators make
only the ionic form of CS by Camp #1, but particles are still produced
as well according to the laboratory analysis reports I've seen! All of
the conflicting information has me frozen and can be very intimidating
when it's backed up by studies and professors, but I'm beginning to
wonder about that, because there is convincing evidence on both sides.
Everyone seems to be selling something and putting out the info that
goes with what they're selling (of course)! So - here I am. Can you
all tell me what, if anything, you've concluded about all of this? My
gut feeling is that probably any properly made CS is better than none
at all, and will do what we need it to, as long as it's made with
clean, distilled water (and no salt, baking soda or toxins). It
probably works even when it isn't properly made, it just might take
longer and require more. My gut also tells me that oftentimes, when
there are conflicting opinions with each side on very opposing poles,
as there seems to be with CS, the truth can lay somewhere in that
middle "grey" area where both sides contributed relevant truths, but
I'm hoping you all can shed some more light on this for me. Anyway,
can you all also tell me if there is a generator that is very safe,
very simple and economical, that produces CS that is clear?  It would
be a big plus if there was a lab analysis of the CS the generator
produces online as well, but I'm interested in your recommendations
regardless.  Thanks, Jodi 
-- 
Jodi Waldman Menard







--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour 

CS

[Paula P Smith]

I know you all  --already knew this, but here it is in the NYTimes
today..
Paula in N. GA
*
***
March 2, 2004
Bacteria Run Wild, Defying Antibiotics
By ABIGAIL ZUGER
 
 A new chapter in the continuing story of antibiotic resistance is being
written in doctors' offices across the country, as a group of common
bacteria rapidly becomes resistant to the antibiotics that have been used
to treat them for decades.

The bacteria are called Staphylococcus aureus, or staph for short. Staph
are the most common cause of skin infections like boils and can also
cause lung infections, bloodstream infections and abscesses in the body's
internal organs.

In hospitalized patients, infections caused by antibiotic-resistant staph
have been common for years. Among healthy people, though, antibiotic
resistance in staph has not been a big problem. Since the 1970's, doctors
have routinely, and successfully, treated staph infections in healthy
patients with penicillin-like drugs.

Not anymore. Office doctors who follow this practice now may find their
patients getting sicker instead of better.

Over the last year, Dr. John Gullett, an infectious disease specialist in
Abilene, Tex., has grown accustomed to getting calls for help from local
doctors who have used the usual antibiotics to no effect.

One doctor treated a high school football player built like Charles
Atlas with a standard oral antibiotic for a little boil in the groin.
Even though the teenager was the picture of health, the antibiotic did
not work.

The boil, caused by resistant staph, grew into an large abscess tracking
into the leg, and the patient got sicker and sicker. Only when Dr.
Gullett treated him with an intravenous antibiotic generally reserved for
desperately ill hospitalized patients did he turn the corner.

Had the patient's first doctor been aware that the infection was caused
by resistant staph and chosen a different oral antibiotic, the entire
episode might have been milder.

Resistant staph, Dr. Gullet said, are more invasive and more pervasive
than the strains most primary care doctors are used to treating.

Dr. Gonzalo Ballon-Landa, an infectious disease specialist at Mercy
Hospital in San Diego, said he was very concerned about what we are
seeing.

Dr. Ballon-Landa has treated clusters of infections from resistant staph
in such disparate groups as prisoners, homeless people, student nurses
and football players.

Most doctors are just not aware of this, said Dr. Bonnie Bock, an
infectious disease specialist in Newport Beach, Calif., who has treated
resistant staph infections in groups of secretaries, surfers and gay men.

Dr. Bock estimated that about two-thirds of the large staph abscesses she
saw in her office now were caused by the resistant bacteria.

Over all, staph infections are extremely common and often quite minor.
Even staph abscesses, if they are drained properly, may heal without
requiring any antibiotics at all. The new resistant staph can be treated
with several common antibiotics — just not the ones doctors are
accustomed to using. 

Still, the experts say that some infections caused by the new resistant
staph are unexpectedly aggressive, and delays in starting the right
antibiotics may be life-threatening.

Staph infections are such a common problem that the emergence of
infections resistant to common antibiotics has important public health
implications, said Dr. Daniel B. Jernigan, an epidemiologist at the
federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But the infections are so common that they are not reportable to the
local or federal public health authorities. Because of this, detective
work to explain the appearance of the new resistant staph in this country
and track its progress is just beginning.

The resistant staph was first recognized in the United States among
children in Chicago in the mid-1990's. In 1999, the disease control
centers reported that four children in the Midwest had died of infections
with the new staph. Three of them had initially been treated with the
wrong antibiotics.

In the last several years, clusters of infections with the resistant
staph have been reported in jails and prisons in states around the
country, including California, Texas, Pennsylvania and Georgia. Clusters
of skin infections have also been reported among athletic team members
and military recruits.

Pediatricians in Miami and Los Angeles have found that 20 percent to 30
percent of the serious staph infections they see in nonhospitalized
children are caused by resistant strains. In Houston, rates in children
have approached 50 percent.

In the spring of 2002, the health department in Los Angeles learned of a
cluster of resistant staph infections in a group of healthy newborn
babies, followed in rapid succession by an outbreak at the county jail
that eventually involved more than 1,000 inmates, a cluster of infections
in a 

CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier

[Dan Nave]

Heather, or anyone else that has this humidifier,

I finally found and bought one of the Walgreen Personal Ultrasonic 
Humidifiers.  It has a water reservoir of about 1 cup volume.  Sitting 
in this water and suspended from the lid, which contains the ultrasonic 
apparatus, is a filter cartridge of about 1 or 2 fluid ounce size.  (It 
is referred to as an antibacterial purifying water filter.)  This has 
a few holes in it covered by screen material.  When it is shaken it 
sounds like there are particles of charcoal in the filter.  There is 
also a little spring loaded holder in the center of the filter and 
protruding out of the top of the filter, which holds the wick.  I don't 
think the wick is a problem for CS, but I think the filter cartridge is 
filled with activated charcoal which should be a problem for the CS. 
(On the other hand, it may take the stink out of the DMSO should one 
decide to use that with the CS ;-))


What did you-all finally do about the filter?  Did anyone test for the 
CS coming through?


I was thinking that it may be possible to just make a hole in the bottom 
of the filter and just let out the charcoal or whatever it is in the filter.


All you Personal Humidifier owners, please respond...

Dan



CSWalgreen Ultrasonic Humidifier

* From: Heather King \(LCA\) wrote:
* Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:01:38

Hi Richard (and list),

I purchased the $20 Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier from Walgreen the 
other day, but I noticed
in trying to set up the process that it has a charcoal filter as part of 
the uptake. Did you
encounter this and if so, did you just leave it in place? I wonder about 
it filtering out all
the CS/DMSO/MSM. On the other hand it is easily removable, but then 
there is no way so siphon
up the mixture, since the filter portion reaches down into the 
reservoir. Without the filter,
there is no reach. If you know what I'm referring to, can you recommend 
a way to bypass the
little filter? Perhaps plastic tubing? I have the receipt  could take 
it back, but I really
like the size ( price) so if I can find a way to rearrange it that 
would be the best thing.

If you changed it to suit you, I'd like to know how you did it. :o)


Thanks for any suggestions,
Heather King


--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSDEATH BY MEDICINE WORD DOCUMENT

[Julius Kabrun]

Liewe Jan,

Thank you for that Word document- Death by Medicine- which is horrifying  
eye-opening.   We knew it without the details given in the document.   

Here the public hospitals are upping all those statistics.

Best Regards,
Julius Kabrun.

Re: CSRe: Colloidal Silver ppm reading in Oz

[Tad Winiecki]

Original message--
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 22:50:02 -0600
From: a rose... rain...@valuelinx.net
I posted recently about cs and acrylic fillings...having been warned that
silver turns plastic gray

I have only been using CS for a while as a mouthwash, but have white teeth
so far.   My 86 yo mom has very gray teeth, and so does my 92 yo mil.  They
don't use CS.  I think there are probably lots of explanations as to why
teeth discolor- coffee, tea, blueberries, tetracyclin, etc, but using a
whitening toothpaste can probably make up for most.  Then there are those
amazing dazzling white Da Vinci veneers they put on teeth on Extreme
Makeover.  I'm wondering if they don't remove some tooth enamel to fit them
on.  Anyway, I'm going to keep using CS as a mouthwash since I want to find
out how much it prevents tooth and gum problems.

Nancy



--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S

[sol]

I just took more words to say it.
paula

James Holmes wrote:


Is that the same as 1.5% hydrogen peroxide?

JOH

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 9:25 AM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Teeth-Need Help- C/S


Teeth back to white by rinsing and holding a solution of 50% water and 
50% 3% Hydrogen peroxide. I usually do this before each CS rinse anyway, 
as it helps the CS rinse work better.

paula

Marian  Hounds wrote:

 


Geepers Rose,

I just realized that the stirrer in my Generator is already grey 
where  it goes into the water while the CS is brewing.   Now *I* also 
need to  know about this.   And if it does change color, how can you 
change it  back?(so many smart folks here, I expect to get answers 
to both  questions.)


   





--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive:
http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com



 





--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSCS Generator the Bio-available Ion vs. Particle Surface Debate

[Delmont P Neroni]

I think you will find the majority of people on this and other silver lists 
advocate the use of primarily ionic silver such as you can produce at home with 
either the Silver Puppy or the Silvergen SG6 or SG7.  Ionic silver solutions 
are clearly the safest and are very effective.

The argument between the particulate and ionic camps is ongoing.  I am no 
expert, but I will quote someone who is, and from that you can make your own 
decision:

Del
---

1.  There is no silver in measureable existance smaller than a silver ion,
except the possibility of monoatomic silver.

2.  Different particle sizes do not effect different conditions.
Ogliodynamic properties are soley responsible for silver effectiveness.
Whether or not different sized particles reach different areas of the body
is a different question all together.  There is no direct biological
advantage to larger particles of silver, under any circumstances.  A
silver ion will always be more effective directly than a silver particle.
Every single study in modern history supports this fact.  There are some
properties to charged particles than may have a different and beneficial
biological effect; this has nothing to do with sizing, but rather, zeta
potential.  Zeta potential is related to particle sizing, and smaller
particles will effect a larger surface area with a greater potential.  This
is beneficial, as far as particles are concerned.  However, no facts have
been documented concerning what these effects are.  As far as anybody knows,
the silver particles may be converted to silver ions at-site, and it is
the silver ions that are actually being effective, but the initial
particulate form which allowed biological delivery.  There is a precidence
for this:  Silverlon wound care dressing.  The minute energetic properties
of the different states of silver cannot be ignored.  Unfortunately, they as
of yet cannot be directly correlated with a biological response.  Direct
Current can and has.  There is no reason to assume that colloids and ionic
solutions are any different. But it is important to keep the theories in
proper perspective:  Theories.

There are alot of opinions on the benefit of particulate silver, and very
little documented data to support claims.  I do believe some of the
ascertations are correct.  I believe having a mix of both ions and the
smallest possible particles is certainly advantageous.  I believe we reach a
point very quickly where the debate is simply splitting hairs, as far as
biological effectiveness is concerned.

HVAC sounds like a great idea, but it has been my experience that few
companies truly create a superior product via the high voltage method.  I've
never liked how the particles tend to clump together with HVAC.   I prefer a
product with proper particle dispersion, examples being TEM's from Natural
Immunogenics, and Trem's Silvergens.

We have no basis to compare products based on sales-focused terminology; we
require a TEM, AAS, and ideally an antibacterial time-kill study.  These
three measurements, when compared with other products, give a fantastic
basis for evaluating CS.  We expect a high particulate silver to perform
poorly against pathogens ( as compared with ionic silver ), as every test
we've seen has detailed.  This does not negate the potential benefit of
silver particles. Particles are more chemically stable in the body.  We've
never had, as an example, a report of Mesosilver being innefective in
comparison to ionic silver.  It's hard to speculate on the differences
between particles and ions, as they perform in the human body.

For home brewers with good CS generators, keeping the PPM relatively
reasonable ( in the 5-10PPM range ) will, we believe, produce a product that
is very effective.  I would never buy into a sales pitch pushing HVAC
without hard data being displayed.  As an example, 'ole Bob has excellent
data on his methods of CS production.  If a company is not displaying any of
this information, they either don't know what they have, or don't want you
to know what they have:  They want to you have their sales pitch, which is
NEVER in your best interest, and ALWAYS in theirs.  Their theorizing may or
may not be accurate, and theorizing should be presented in a manner
consistant with theory and not fact.

The public, it is my opinion, should not settle for less than accurate
information that is presented in an authentic manner.

If they state that fulvic acid and silver is better, then they should simply
demonstrate it, which is not difficult to do; not only would their
constituents be happy ( so to speak ), but it would be good to avoid
potential problems with the FTC.

Best Regards,

Jason

Re: CSneed help-teeth

[sol]

She could try the brushing with bar soap. Brooks Bradley sent a link to 
this to the list. This may not be the original link but has the info.

http://100777.com/node/view/662
I don't know if this does anything for loose teeth, but along with 
swishing and holding diluted peroxide, and then rinsing and holding CS 
for a few minutes, it has helped me.

paula


Scott  Maryanne Powers wrote:

I'm trying to help my sister and thought some one here might have 
heard of this before.  Basically, she's 45 years old and has 3 loose 
teeth (only the front ones).  She's got an appointment with the 
dentist and takes CS daily.  The only suggestion I had was for to try 
and keep the CS in her mouth for 6 minutes.

Thank you in advance,
Mag 





--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSneed help-teeth

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I have followed the advice on the link and am very, very impressed.   I 
see slow and steady gum regeneration,  a big surprise.   I think a bar 
of Ivory soap is more effective than even the best dentifrice I ever 
used,  AlphaOmega dentifrice,  which is between 10 and 12 dollars for a 
small bottle.
The cost savings over this and even conventional toothpaste are 
dramatic,  as are the results.   Who would have believed such a thing?  
Live and learn.






On Wednesday, Mar 3, 2004, at 11:08 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:

She could try the brushing with bar soap. Brooks Bradley sent a link 
to this to the list. This may not be the original link but has the 
info.

http://100777.com/node/view/662
I don't know if this does anything for loose teeth, but along with 
swishing and holding diluted peroxide, and then rinsing and holding CS 
for a few minutes, it has helped me.

paula


Scott  Maryanne Powers wrote:

I'm trying to help my sister and thought some one here might have 
heard of this before.  Basically, she's 45 years old and has 3 loose 
teeth (only the front ones).  She's got an appointment with the 
dentist and takes CS daily.  The only suggestion I had was for to try 
and keep the CS in her mouth for 6 minutes.

Thank you in advance,
Mag





--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

Re: CSneed help-teeth

[sol]

I'm getting good results too. And it isn't nearly as nasty as I feared. 
And well worth trying, my teeth have never felt so clean,
and I wear a dental appliance nightly for TMJ, and tartar would build up 
on that, too. Requiring periodic soaking in vinegar to remove it. Since 
brushing with bar soap, and also brushing the appliance with bar soap, 
there is zero tartar on it.
I am amazed. Who woulda thunk it? And it solved my problem of trying to 
find toothpaste without carrageenan and/or algins.

paula

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

I have followed the advice on the link and am very, very impressed.   
I see slow and steady gum regeneration,  a big surprise.   I think a 
bar of Ivory soap is more effective than even the best dentifrice I 
ever used,  AlphaOmega dentifrice,  which is between 10 and 12 dollars 
for a small bottle.
The cost savings over this and even conventional toothpaste are 
dramatic,  as are the results.   Who would have believed such a 
thing?  Live and learn.






On Wednesday, Mar 3, 2004, at 11:08 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:

She could try the brushing with bar soap. Brooks Bradley sent a link 
to this to the list. This may not be the original link but has the info.

http://100777.com/node/view/662
I don't know if this does anything for loose teeth, but along with 
swishing and holding diluted peroxide, and then rinsing and holding 
CS for a few minutes, it has helped me.

paula


Scott  Maryanne Powers wrote:

I'm trying to help my sister and thought some one here might have 
heard of this before.  Basically, she's 45 years old and has 3 loose 
teeth (only the front ones).  She's got an appointment with the 
dentist and takes CS daily.  The only suggestion I had was for to 
try and keep the CS in her mouth for 6 minutes.

Thank you in advance,
Mag






--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com




--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com







--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html

List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com