CSCS and floaties

2004-12-06 Thread Matthew McCann
If floaties are metallic silver monomolecular films on the
air-liquid interface, and if they exhibit interference fringes
(like oil slicks do), it may then be possible to measure the
average thickness of the particles. Two laser diode
wavelengths would give two independent ways of measuring
the layer thickness. Has anybody noticed interference
fringes on the floaties?

Matthew

CSFw: CSanti modern medicine - me?

2004-12-06 Thread Matthew McCann

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From: himagain himag...@fablor.com
To: Matthew McCann mmcc...@franciscan.edu
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSanti modern medicine - me?


 At 08:57 AM 06/12/04, Matthew wrote:
 Hi, Himagain,
 
 Mentioning chinese medicine behind the Bamboo Curtain,
 do you remember the famous text Barefoot Doctors?
 I think US Congess had it translated into English and
 widely distributed sometime in the 1960s.

 Hi Matthew  folks,
 The term was a sorta English translation of a Maoist response to problems
 of declining health in China and Mao's enthusiastic adoption of medicine
 on two legs - the combining of Western Medicine with real medicine.
 It suffered greatly from the failures of the great expectations the
 peasants were given by the promotion of the Paramedic concept of Barefoot
 Doctors.
 Most of the time it simply didn't work - same as in the West - and there
 was violent reaction to the results of various showcase vaccination
 programmes.  The locals didn't read PR releases, they saw the
 results...

 However there was an English translation of the Manual used by the
 Paramedics,  which did have a fantastic wealth of information about herbs
 and natural healing.  I don't think the US Congress would have done it,
 though!  :-)

 There is an even more exotic form of Chinese Traditional Treatment called
 roughly Mountain Medicine.  I  suffered it some 12 years ago and got
 back a great deal of thought-lost-forever functions!  But it will never
 catch on here, even the far more stoic Chinese didn't like it. It hurts a
 lot! :-)   But it also works!

 Cheers,
 Himagain.   Recalling the patient immediately after the massive surgery
 complaining that they were hungry - hadn't been fed since the night before
 




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Re: CSCS and floaties

2004-12-06 Thread Ode Coyote
 The easiest and most effective way is to just let it sit for a day and pour off the top 7/8th.
Most of it vanishes on it's own.
All of that stuff 'looks' a lot worse than it is.  The glass magnifies it by many times and it's really very little material. If you can get it all on on a piece of paper towel, often , you can't even find it on there when you're done.
A 'floater' is only one atom thick..virtually nothing.
A 'sparklie' is maybe 99.99% hydrogen bubble...or a piece of dust or a grain of pollen. [Same with a 'chunkie' which is just a big sparklie.]
Black oxides, by far the majority of actual solid material and unavoidable to make, are inert...and mostly stay stuck to an electrode.

Ode

At 07:16 PM 12/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: 

As I'm reading all these replies about floaties, mud, and sludge, I'm wondering what the consensus is about such debris.


>From time to time, I will have silver floating on the top of my CS when it's finished, usually when I haven't cleaned the electrode fuzzies as well as I probably should have prior to making a batch (this is with the Silverpuppy unit).  The CS can be very clear, but I still may have some floaties.  Not much to speak of, but you can see it.  I used to strain the CS through a coffee filter when I would see them, but now I've gotten lazy, and I just pour it into my bottle as is.  


Should I not be doing that?


Rene'


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Re: CSCS and floaties

2004-12-06 Thread Ode Coyote
 The easiest and most effective way is to just let it sit for a day and pour off the top 7/8th.
Most of it vanishes on it's own.
All of that stuff 'looks' a lot worse than it is.  The glass magnifies it by many times and it's really very little material. If you can get it all on on a piece of paper towel, often , you can't even find it on there when you're done.
A 'floater' is only one atom thick..virtually nothing.
A 'sparklie' is maybe 99.99% hydrogen bubble...or a piece of dust or a grain of pollen. [Same with a 'chunkie' which is just a big sparklie.]
Black oxides, by far the majority of actual solid material and unavoidable to make, are inert...and mostly stay stuck to an electrode.

Ode

At 07:16 PM 12/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: 

As I'm reading all these replies about floaties, mud, and sludge, I'm wondering what the consensus is about such debris.


>From time to time, I will have silver floating on the top of my CS when it's finished, usually when I haven't cleaned the electrode fuzzies as well as I probably should have prior to making a batch (this is with the Silverpuppy unit).  The CS can be very clear, but I still may have some floaties.  Not much to speak of, but you can see it.  I used to strain the CS through a coffee filter when I would see them, but now I've gotten lazy, and I just pour it into my bottle as is.  


Should I not be doing that?


Rene'


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Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX

2004-12-06 Thread Ode Coyote
 What this all means and should be apparent to any thinking person is, the
internet is the same as going to a cocktail party and listening to everyone
vent their personal opinions.

 Some people are sober, some not and some are just plain whacky.
 It would be rare to find any viewpoint that's not slanted and spun in some
direction or the other.

 It's a great place to get ideas..any idea, no matter how half baked or
paranoid, or valid in whatever respects...a lousy place to confirm them as
true, complete and reasonable.
 The internet is a trash dump with treasures hidden it it...including
forged treasures.
 Anything you 'want' to find can be found...but YOU are left to decide
what's real and to what extent, as always.

Good detective work.

Ode

At 10:57 AM 12/5/2004 -0800, you wrote:

Hi There to all - I personally went into Santa Fe last week Thursday, 
and visited Whole Foods.  I asked to speak to a Manager so that I could
have confirmation on a situation
I had heard about - was not able to speak to either as one was on
vacation and the other
in a meeting - however I spoke with two of the nutrition dept. floor
managers, neither of 
them had any notion that the FDA had phoned or visited,  and asked me
where I had gotten
my information - my reply was the Internet - this shocked them both, so
we then discussed
the CODEX situation at great length and what our collective futures may
be in view of 
what had transpired or was about to transpire.  I then went personally
with them to the area where the Colloidal Silver was resplendent in all
it's glory on the shelves - three Companies were represented and the
products were in - nazal spray, throat spray, and dropper forms
for purchase - so who knows what the truth is - personally I would like
to think it is a 
scare tactic to see just how asleep the sheep are and what kind of a
reaction can be 
expected when the axe falls next year - I do know that many of the small
herb companies
have been bought out by the Big Boys over the past two years, I know that
one of the
Big Boys has just opened a place in Utah to manufacture Colloidal Silver,
and so my question to all is, Who is behind the supposed large
alternative, herbal etc., shops, 
companies etc., which could possibly be the answer to why these guys not
showing any
alarm for the future ?   I think that the best thing for those of us who
are awake to do in
view of what appears to be the future, is to become MDs so that we can
open an office to write prescriptions for all of the drugs, herbs,
vitamins, etc ., etc., this will be a real 
money earner !What say you all 
Sincerely
Sandee


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RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...

2004-12-06 Thread Ode Coyote
At 09:20 PM 12/5/2004 -0500, you wrote: 

Jimson weed huh? H.(Grin) where can I get me some..? Im in Toronto, Canada..


Look in the weeds around your house. It has a bell shaped flower like a Datura or Devils/ Angels Trumpet [another source of atropine and scolopomine] and is very common.
The seeds and roots are a very potent ticket to la la land.
Historically, it or datura are one of the ingrediants in the witches flying ointment.

Be very careful and get a baby sitter. [perferable more than one so they can work in shifts] You won't see this world at all for 3 days and you won't know that you're not seeing it while wandering around. No matter how fantastic and unbelieveable what you experience is, it is absolutely real to every sense and there is no sense, at all, of being high.


Did that once a long long time ago..had a great, sometimes wonderful, sometimes fearsome time and will NEVER do it again.
I have zero memory of the third day...but I was told stories by my watchers.
Memories of the first and second day are quite vivid and real to this day.
And you CAN OD and wind up dead. [and maybe not notice the difference?]

There has been much written about the experience dating back to the 1400s.

Common thread:

...and he crawled and babbled like a complete fool for three days without rest, eventually returning to himself with the most fantastic of tales
I've seen the exact same thing [too many times] while babysitting people with the DTs

Interestingly, atropine is the antidote to many poisons.
With some care and research, a stock of jimson weed could be a valuable resource.

Ode

 

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Warning: The active ingrediant in Sleep Eaze may cause drowsiness
..same ingredient as in common Jimson weed [scolopomine and atropine] only strong enough in the natural source in your back yard to make you trip your brains out for days on end and see triple for a week afterwards.
..Jimson weed isn't sold at the herb store..too dangerous...too easy to blast yourself clean off the planet.

Herbalists often water down their product too.
Sassafras root 'wood' is the only thing I've seen sold at stores. The major concentration of the ingredients are in the bark of the root, so why is the root peeled first? One strip of bark is enough to make a gallon of tea. Even fairly weak sassafrass tea is a powerful tonic and too much will make you ill. It's not a beverage at any real concentration or duration of use. Sassafras root bark contains sassafrol, a psychoactive drug and ingredient in making MDA and MDA analogs.

Ode

At 11:49 AM 12/4/2004 -0600, you wrote: 

 

Hi,

Absolutely! In the last few years B-12 and Vit. C were made prescription (liquid form). Reason isthey work and work like a miracle! Can't have the lay people running around curing their animals and themselves!!!

Can't you see what they have in mind for us in the near future?

Jean Baugh







 

I remember when some vitamins were prescription only. Why couldn't it happen again?

Sally

Ken  Nancy kena...@i680n.com> wrote:

Joy,

I hear you, and you MIGHT be right that this can happen in America, but I
still doubt it. The Invisible Hand is always a work, and people have been
saying these stories about supplements being eliminated from the open market
for years, and nothing has really happened. The FDA is powerful, but it is
not that powerful. As someone mentioned earlier on this list, the supplement
industry also has enormous sums of money at its disposal, should they desire
to pool it and fight the government for freedom to operate and sell.

I won't say it cannot happen, and I will happily involve myself in
legitimate anti-FDA agendas, but I don't think CODEX is going to end up in
the way you describe. Even if it did, people find ways to get what they
need.

-Ken Bagwell



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Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>The FDA, silver, and CODEX...


>
>
> Sorry Ken, but this way of thinking seems to me to be like wearing
> blinders. This IS happening in Europe and Australia as we speak -  they
> were sure as you are below that it wouldn't/couldn't happen, but it is
> happening. And FDA does not have to prove that supplements are
> dangerous. They don't do the testing. The companies trying to sell
> products have to get them approved - have to do their own testing, by
> impartial folks - but they have to pay the bill according to tests  FDA
> sets up. And FDA can arbitrarily say nope. I'm so frustrated with
> this even on regular meds - have a life-threatening condition that
> causes my throat to swell shut from time to time. This isn't an
> allergy, its caused by a missing enzyme that my body just doesn't
> p! roduce enough of - its a genetic condition. The only 

RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...

2004-12-06 Thread Dan Nave
If you start experimenting with Jimsom weed 
you will have to change your name from Yogi-boy 
to Sorcerer-boy...

Dan





RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...

From: Yogiboy wrote:
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:25:46 



Jimson weed huh? H*.(Grin) where can I get me some..? I'm in 
Toronto,
Canada..



 



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RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...

2004-12-06 Thread Yogiboy
Yes Dan, I read up on it. Not something I'd like to mess with. WA to
much down side. Thanks for humoring me. 

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From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] 
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If you start experimenting with Jimsom weed 
you will have to change your name from Yogi-boy 
to Sorcerer-boy...

Dan





RE: CSThe FDA, silver, and CODEX...

From: Yogiboy wrote:
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:25:46 




Jimson weed huh? H*.(Grin) where can I get me some..? I'm in 
Toronto,
Canada..



 



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Re: CSCS and floaties

2004-12-06 Thread Rene Thurston
Soo.am I doing any harm by just pouring these
floaties/sparklies/chunkies into the bottle and forgetting about them?  LOL!

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Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX

2004-12-06 Thread sandy George
I love it - so now there is a daily average to be complied with   
Looks as if rapid
downhill action has taken place since my trip over there last year !!!   
 Well we just
have to keep on laughing all the way to the bank !
Regards
Sandee


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CSCaecum Growths

2004-12-06 Thread Juliska
Hi fellow group Members,
I am a 74 yr old diabetic with a heart problem.
I also have growths in my caecum  colon polyps . The polyps are benign but the 
growth/s in my caecum were not reached after 2 hours trying by 2  
gastroenterologists last week so their benignity remains open to question.  I 
am told that after about 5 years colon polyps are apt to turn cancerous so I 
have every reason to seek treatment for these growths which are uncomfortable  
partly blocking excretion which is only possible with laxatives  fiber.  The 
doctors told me growths are very common but to return if I bled from the anus 
or started losing weight rapidly.   Washed their hands of me !!

What Rife , Herbal, Magnetic pulser or other alternative treatment would help 
me   Please send me your comments or suggestions for treatment.   
Thank you all,
Julius Kabrun .
juli...@worldonline.co.za  


Re: CSCaecum Growths

2004-12-06 Thread scl...@netzero.com

 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything 
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these. 
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you kill 
the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get rid of. 
The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to function better 
overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the best zapper I know 
of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would be necessary to get the 
liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve 


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Re: CSCaecum Growths

2004-12-06 Thread scl...@netzero.com

 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything 
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these. 
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you kill 
the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get rid of. 
The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to function better 
overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the best zapper I know 
of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would be necessary to get the 
liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve 


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RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

2004-12-06 Thread Judydownmaine
Okay -- here's this basic question again -- how does the cs get to the
colon?
By drinking it with food?
By being carried by the bloodstream?
It's my understanding that water (cs or plain) doesn't get as far as the
colon by simply drinking it on an empty stomach. It goes directly to the
bloodstream, avoiding the intestines
To drink large quantities of cs, I was told to begin with small amounts
(tablespoon 6X/day) for the first day, double that for the 2nd day. This
avoids Herxheimer effect (too rapid kill-off of pathogens that could block
kidneys or liver)
After that you can work rapidly toward a large amount. Any corrections,
please.
Judy Down Maine



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 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these.
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you
kill the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get
rid of. The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to
function better overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the
best zapper I know of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would
be necessary to get the liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve


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RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

2004-12-06 Thread David W Kenney
The colon is primarily the part of the intestine responsible for water
absorption to concentrate the stool.   Chances are in an enema form CS might
well be absorbed...but orally, the CS should have long been absorbed.


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From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

Okay -- here's this basic question again -- how does the cs get to the
colon?
By drinking it with food?
By being carried by the bloodstream?
It's my understanding that water (cs or plain) doesn't get as far as the
colon by simply drinking it on an empty stomach. It goes directly to the
bloodstream, avoiding the intestines
To drink large quantities of cs, I was told to begin with small amounts
(tablespoon 6X/day) for the first day, double that for the 2nd day. This
avoids Herxheimer effect (too rapid kill-off of pathogens that could block
kidneys or liver)
After that you can work rapidly toward a large amount. Any corrections,
please.
Judy Down Maine



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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon



 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these.
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you
kill the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get
rid of. The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to
function better overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the
best zapper I know of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would
be necessary to get the liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve


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RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

2004-12-06 Thread David W Kenney
The colon is primarily the part of the intestine responsible for water
absorption to concentrate the stool.   Chances are in an enema form CS might
well be absorbed...but orally, the CS should have long been absorbed.


-Original Message-
From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

Okay -- here's this basic question again -- how does the cs get to the
colon?
By drinking it with food?
By being carried by the bloodstream?
It's my understanding that water (cs or plain) doesn't get as far as the
colon by simply drinking it on an empty stomach. It goes directly to the
bloodstream, avoiding the intestines
To drink large quantities of cs, I was told to begin with small amounts
(tablespoon 6X/day) for the first day, double that for the 2nd day. This
avoids Herxheimer effect (too rapid kill-off of pathogens that could block
kidneys or liver)
After that you can work rapidly toward a large amount. Any corrections,
please.
Judy Down Maine



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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon



 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these.
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you
kill the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get
rid of. The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to
function better overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the
best zapper I know of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would
be necessary to get the liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve


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RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

2004-12-06 Thread Judydownmaine


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-Original Message-
From: David W Kenney [mailto:drd...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 4:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon


The colon is primarily the part of the intestine responsible for water
absorption to concentrate the stool.   Chances are in an enema form CS might
well be absorbed...but orally, the CS should have long been absorbed.


-Original Message-
From: Judydownmaine [mailto:apea...@adelphia.net]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

Okay -- here's this basic question again -- how does the cs get to the
colon?
By drinking it with food?
By being carried by the bloodstream?
It's my understanding that water (cs or plain) doesn't get as far as the
colon by simply drinking it on an empty stomach. It goes directly to the
bloodstream, avoiding the intestines
To drink large quantities of cs, I was told to begin with small amounts
(tablespoon 6X/day) for the first day, double that for the 2nd day. This
avoids Herxheimer effect (too rapid kill-off of pathogens that could block
kidneys or liver)
After that you can work rapidly toward a large amount. Any corrections,
please.
Judy Down Maine



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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 3:51 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon



 Olive Leaf Extract and Pawpaw are excellent for getting rid of anything
cancerous/viral/bacterial/parasitic. I would consider taking both of these.
Also a colon cleanse and a liver cleanse would be very beneficial. As you
kill the tumors with the herbals you will have toxins and dead matter to get
rid of. The cleanses will ease the die-off effect and help your body to
function better overall. A zapper would help too. The Terminator 2 is the
best zapper I know of. Colloidal silver will help to but large doses would
be necessary to get the liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)/.

Steve


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RE: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon updated

2004-12-06 Thread Judydownmaine
Sorry -- I should have clipped Steve's remark here so you'd know what part
of his statement I'm questioning.
Here's Steve's statement:  Colloidal silver will help to but large doses
would
be necessary to get the liquid down to colon. 16oz of low ppm cs (5-10ppm)

Hence my comment:
Okay -- here's this basic question again -- how does the cs get to the
colon?
By drinking it with food?
By being carried by the bloodstream?
It's my understanding that water (cs or plain) doesn't get as far as the
colon by simply drinking it on an empty stomach. It goes directly to the
bloodstream, avoiding the intestines To drink large quantities of cs, I was
told to begin with small amounts (tablespoon 6X/day) for the first day,
double that for the 2nd day. This avoids Herxheimer effect (too rapid
kill-off of pathogens that could block kidneys or liver)
After that you can work rapidly toward a large amount. Any corrections,
please.
Judy Down Maine




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Re: CSCaecum Growths and cs to the colon

2004-12-06 Thread Marmar845
I don't understand the comment the doctors washed their hands of me.  Colon 
polyps are ordinarily removed during a colonoscopy.  This is done so that 
they will never have the chance of becoming malignant.  Did you have a 
colonoscopy?  If not, perhaps you should consider doing so.   MA


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CSTetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread bailar
I was curious if anyone had followed up on tetrasil. There were some posts 
about it a while back. I am using the gel on a fungal nail of 20 years, and it 
is actually working. Has been about 2 months. Nothing else has helped the nail. 
I would like to talk to the scientist who invented it. Someone posted that the 
Israeli's were stockpiling it but I assume that is urban legend or a joke? If 
not, where did they access that information?

I have looked at all the patents and a few months ago talked to the company 
headquarters (one guy) here in Rhode Island. There is not enough funding to run 
a proper clinical trial at this point. This is different than colloidal silver, 
or colloidal silver IV, as the way it's made, the electrons function like 
little bombs, apparently.

Thanx in advance for any info or thoughts. I am curious why nobody pursued it 
further.

CSRe: Tetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread sarongsong
There are 58 references in the CS-list archives:
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=tetrasil



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Re: CSTetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 12/6/04 5:47:08 PM EST, baila...@hotmail.com writes:

 I am using the gel on a fungal nail of 20 years, and it is actually 
working.  

Is this a drug, requiring a prescription?  MA


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CSTetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread bbanever
Tetrasil is not a drug.   It is available over the internet.  

Re: CSCaecum Growths

2004-12-06 Thread Garnet
Enemas work well for loosening stool. I use a tablespoon of 3% Hydrogen
Peroxide (H2O2) in a warm water enema, lay on your back and allow as
much of a normal size hot water bottle full to flow in. If you cramp or
get a pushing urge, just blow short puffs of air as they teach in LaMaze
birthing to resist the urge to push. Then roll over on your right side
and take in a little more. You can massage your abdomen or just try and
hold it to allow softening. The H2O2 really speeds up the process and
will get some O2 to your colon which is a cancer treatment in itself. Do
measure the H2O2 as too much can burn the sensitive mucous membranes. 

DMSO and CS are both known to normalize cancer cells. Both can be used
topically and internally. DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton Walker is
available from www.amazon.com and has much information on its use as
well as journal citations. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO check the list
archives and links section for more info

Drinking enough water to help loosen stools. Also balancing your
minerals, particularly magnesium, helps prevent constipation as well as
Thyroid deficiency, which will depress Immune function.

Very few people are interested but I will mention Urine Therapy because
Urine enemas are very healthy and a very easy way to absorb your own
urine for its therapeutic benefit. I will leave it to you to explore
this 5,000 year old therapy that is in the pharmacopoeia of all
indigenous peoples on the planet.

http://group.yahoo.com/group/urine_therapy

Check the list archives and links section for more information. BTW your
urine is sterile unless you have an active bladder infection. It's
composition is almost identical to your blood plasma. It contains all
the active immune components you are currently making to keep you
healthy. Stanizlaw Burzinsky, MD of Houston, TX and others have
sucessfully treated cancer and other degenerative conditions with
auto-urine therapy.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 14:36, Juliska wrote:
 Hi fellow group Members,
 I am a 74 yr old diabetic with a heart problem.
 I also have growths in my caecum  colon polyps . The polyps are
 benign but the growth/s in my caecum were not reached after 2 hours
 trying by 2  gastroenterologists last week so their benignity remains
 open to question.  I am told that after about 5 years colon polyps are
 apt to turn cancerous so I have every reason to seek treatment for
 these growths which are uncomfortable  partly blocking excretion
 which is only possible with laxatives  fiber.  The doctors told me
 growths are very common but to return if I bled from the anus or
 started losing weight rapidly.   Washed their hands of me !!
  
 What Rife , Herbal, Magnetic pulser or other alternative treatment
 would help me   Please send me your comments or suggestions for
 treatment.   
 Thank you all,
 Julius Kabrun .
 juli...@worldonline.co.za  


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Re: CSTetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread d...@altsystem.com
Well, actually, some of us have pursued it further (Tetrasil ointment).  And we 
now find that we must have it in our medicine cabinet.  I have used it for 
various skin infections, including some bad pimples, cuts, and infected 
fingernail.  My wife has actually cleared up some long standing cysts on her 
face (like small pimples) by rubbing a little into them every night before bed 
(it took months to clear them, but it worked).  I recently sent it to my 
daughter in law who used it to clear up a nasty case of impetigo on her face - 
worked great!  We are very enthusiastic about tetrasil ointment, which 
apparently combines the best properties of oxygen and silver into a single 
product (external use only).

Take a look at the web page to see the number of different skin conditions that 
Tetrasil has treated effectively.   Only problem is, you sometimes can't get 
any - and the price was raised recently.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: bailar 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:47 PM
  Subject: CSTetrasil


  I was curious if anyone had followed up on tetrasil. There were some posts 
about it a while back. I am using the gel on a fungal nail of 20 years, and it 
is actually working. Has been about 2 months. Nothing else has helped the nail. 
I would like to talk to the scientist who invented it. Someone posted that the 
Israeli's were stockpiling it but I assume that is urban legend or a joke? If 
not, where did they access that information?

  I have looked at all the patents and a few months ago talked to the company 
headquarters (one guy) here in Rhode Island. There is not enough funding to run 
a proper clinical trial at this point. This is different than colloidal silver, 
or colloidal silver IV, as the way it's made, the electrons function like 
little bombs, apparently.

  Thanx in advance for any info or thoughts. I am curious why nobody pursued it 
further.

Re: CSTetrasil, Ag4O4, Imusil note to Del

2004-12-06 Thread Jason
Greetings, all:

The original treatment system, once called tetrasil, was actually renamed to 
Imusil.  Imusil was what Boyd Graves used to wipe the HIV out of his system.

Old list members will remember that Boyd was actually an eskimo silver list 
participant -- through a third party-- before his single IV injection of Ag4O4 
@ 40PPM.

Back in those days, Boyd was hardly able to get out of bed, and had to have 
help from a neighbor to pick up his mail; generous donations of CS from another 
list member(s).

The Imusil can only be injected once into the bloodstream, and the development 
team, to my knowledge, has refused to comment on why ( I tried to contact them 
some years ago ).

I assume quite a bit of silver is deposited directly into organ tissue; perhaps 
the liver.  HOWEVER, that is ONLY my unsubstantiated assumption.

SO the tetrasil that is marketed legally today is not quite the same product, 
only because it is in a different form.

It shouldn't be that hard to synthesize Ag4O4.  Someone with a lab ( big hints 
here!!! ) should synthesize it and allow the process to be published, for the 
benefit of humanity.

What we're truly dealing with here is nothing short of stabilized ozonated 
silver.

I'm assuming, again, that the crystalline molecue is relatively unstable; 
pathogens act as an ion pump via silver ions.  One silver ion is liberated, and 
then BAM the O3 or 04 and a second or second and third silver ion is 
released.  I don't know if the result is a single molecule of silver oxide 
remaining.  Perhaps Mike Monet would like to wrestle with the chemical equation.

There would, relatively speaking, be quite a kinetic force behind such a 
reaction.

O3 oxidizes bacteria and virii hundreds to thousands of times faster than even 
the most advanced isolated silver products-- with a price, though.

I personally grow weary of the same old line of not enough funding for blind 
trials.

I'm well equipped to deal with an influenza epidemic, but many are not!

PS Del:

The homeopathic Heel ointment far surpassed my expections, and I thank you for 
suggesting its use.  If I had known about it a year ago, I am quite certain it 
would have saved me from alot of pain.  As it stands, I'd have to use 1/4 tube 
a day to treat my entire problem, which I cannot currently afford.  However, I 
can treat my right shoulder, which is my mouse arm, which allows me to use 
the computer more than I would otherwise be able to.

Best regards,

Jason

  - Original Message - 
  From: d...@altsystem.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: CSTetrasil


  Well, actually, some of us have pursued it further (Tetrasil ointment).  And 
we now find that we must have it in our medicine cabinet.  I have used it for 
various skin infections, including some bad pimples, cuts, and infected 
fingernail.  My wife has actually cleared up some long standing cysts on her 
face (like small pimples) by rubbing a little into them every night before bed 
(it took months to clear them, but it worked).  I recently sent it to my 
daughter in law who used it to clear up a nasty case of impetigo on her face - 
worked great!  We are very enthusiastic about tetrasil ointment, which 
apparently combines the best properties of oxygen and silver into a single 
product (external use only).

  Take a look at the web page to see the number of different skin conditions 
that Tetrasil has treated effectively.   Only problem is, you sometimes can't 
get any - and the price was raised recently.

  Del
- Original Message - 
From: bailar 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:47 PM
Subject: CSTetrasil


I was curious if anyone had followed up on tetrasil. There were some posts 
about it a while back. I am using the gel on a fungal nail of 20 years, and it 
is actually working. Has been about 2 months. Nothing else has helped the nail. 
I would like to talk to the scientist who invented it. Someone posted that the 
Israeli's were stockpiling it but I assume that is urban legend or a joke? If 
not, where did they access that information?

I have looked at all the patents and a few months ago talked to the company 
headquarters (one guy) here in Rhode Island. There is not enough funding to run 
a proper clinical trial at this point. This is different than colloidal silver, 
or colloidal silver IV, as the way it's made, the electrons function like 
little bombs, apparently.

Thanx in advance for any info or thoughts. I am curious why nobody pursued 
it further.


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CStetrasil

2004-12-06 Thread Shirley Reed
   I got 2 tubes of it.  Love it.  Has done more
in 3 applications for some very stubborn and
unsightly, sometimes painful, condition on my
hands.  I think it was a fungus,   Anyway it
works fast and really well, imho.  I don't intend
to be without it.   pj



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