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Jimson weed huh? Hmmmm&.(Grin) where can I get me some..? Im in Toronto, Canada..<<<<
Look in the weeds around your house. It has a bell shaped flower like a Datura or Devils/ Angels Trumpet [another source of atropine and scolopomine] and is very common.
The seeds and roots are a very potent ticket to la la land.
Historically, it or datura are one of the ingrediants in the witches flying ointment.
Be very careful and get a baby sitter. [perferable more than one so they can work in shifts] You won't see this world at all for 3 days and you won't know that you're not seeing it while wandering around. No matter how fantastic and unbelieveable what you experience is, it is absolutely real to every sense and there is no sense, at all, of being "high".
Did that once a long long time ago..had a great, sometimes wonderful, sometimes fearsome time and will NEVER do it again.
I have zero memory of the third day...but I was told stories by my watchers.
Memories of the first and second day are quite vivid and real to this day.
And you CAN OD and wind up dead. [and maybe not notice the difference?]
There has been much written about the experience dating back to the 1400s.
Common thread:
"...and he crawled and babbled like a complete fool for three days without rest, eventually returning to himself with the most fantastic of tales"
I've seen the exact same thing [too many times] while babysitting people with the "DT"s
Interestingly, atropine is the antidote to many poisons.
With some care and research, a stock of jimson weed could be a valuable resource.
Ode
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 10:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>The FDA, silver, and CODEX...
"Warning: The active ingrediant in Sleep Eaze may cause drowsiness"
..same ingredient as in common Jimson weed [scolopomine and atropine] only strong enough in the natural source in your back yard to make you trip your brains out for days on end and see triple for a week afterwards.
..Jimson weed isn't sold at the herb store..too dangerous...too easy to blast yourself clean off the planet.
Herbalists often water down their product too.
Sassafras root 'wood' is the only thing I've seen sold at stores. The major concentration of the ingredients are in the bark of the root, so why is the root peeled first? One strip of bark is enough to make a gallon of tea. Even fairly weak sassafrass tea is a powerful tonic and too much will make you ill. It's not a "beverage" at any real concentration or duration of use. Sassafras root bark contains sassafrol, a psychoactive drug and ingredient in making MDA and MDA analogs.
Ode
At 11:49 AM 12/4/2004 -0600, you wrote:
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Hi,
Absolutely! In the last few years B-12 and Vit. C were made prescription (liquid form). Reason is....................they work and work like a miracle! Can't have the lay people running around curing their animals and themselves!!!
Can't you see what they have in mind for us in the near future?
Jean Baugh
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I remember when some vitamins were prescription only. Why couldn't it happen again?
Sally
Ken & Nancy <[email protected]> wrote:
Joy,
I hear you, and you MIGHT be right that this can happen in America, but I
still doubt it. The Invisible Hand is always a work, and people have been
saying these stories about supplements being eliminated from the open market
for years, and nothing has really happened. The FDA is powerful, but it is
not that powerful. As someone mentioned earlier on this list, the supplement
industry also has enormous sums of money at its disposal, should they desire
to pool it and fight the government for freedom to operate and sell.
I won't say it cannot happen, and I will happily involve myself in
legitimate anti-FDA agendas, but I don't think CODEX is going to end up in
the way you describe. Even if it did, people find ways to get what they
need.
-Ken Bagwell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joy" To:
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: CS>The FDA, silver, and CODEX...
>
>
> Sorry Ken, but this way of thinking seems to me to be like wearing
> blinders. This IS happening in Europe and Australia as we speak - they
> were "sure" as you are below that it wouldn't/couldn't happen, but it is
> happening. And FDA does not have to prove that supplements are
> dangerous. They don't do the testing. The companies trying to sell
> products have to get them approved - have to do their own testing, by
> impartial folks - but they have to pay the bill according to tests FDA
> sets up. And FDA can arbitrarily say "nope". I'm so frustrated with
> this even on regular meds - have a life-threatening condition that
> causes my throat to swell shut from time to time. This isn't an
> allergy, its caused by a missing enzyme that my body just doesn't
> p! roduce enough of - its a genetic condition. The only thing I can do is
> go to ER and get blood products that provide the missing enzyme. And
> hope I don't get anything dangerous from the blood products, and don't
> need to be entubated or worse. Europe has had acute treatments for 15
> plus years now, effefctive, safe. FDA won't approve them. Not big
> enough market (there are very few of us with this condition) to support
> the testing FDA requires, so its not happening.
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