CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.

[patriot2000]

Dan Nave
dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: 


Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.

Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner)
it

was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic

neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition
was

200mg three times a day.

Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on
a

holistic approach!

Dan

I think I probably have missed a good deal of the conversations preceding
this last, but I will jump in anyway. Forgive me if I am
redundant. If you have neuropathy, especially diabetic neuropathy,
look into Anodyne Therapy. I hunted it up on the Internet when I
read about it in one of the alternative doc's newsletters which I get by
snailmail. I was getting desperate to get rid of the chronic
tendonitis I had in both wrists which did not yield to acupuncture or to
chiropractic.

www.AnodyneTherapy.com gave enough information to go on, and I
located a source of the treatments with their infra-red LEDs here in my
city. I needed a referral from my doctor to get in, and I talked
that skeptical lady into writing it for me. A couple of treatments
gave me significant relief, and a dozen more took care of the problem
altogether. 
Now, here is the interesting part: Anodyne is particularly
effective for diabetics, correcting neuropathy and healing chronic open
sores. The rehab therapist I asked about it said that he recently
had a diabetic patient without any feeling up to her knees, considered
hopeless by her doctor. The Anodyne treatments restored feeling
down to her toes!
Anodyne was paid for by my Medicare and auxiliary Tricare for Life
insurance. I looked into purchasing a unit, and they are pretty
pricey at about $3000, but I learned from my therapist that after a
diabetes patient of Medicare age has had a course of the treatments (12)
there is a program through Medicare which will subsidize the purchase by
the patient, so that his/her cost is $500 instead of $3000, and thus the
patient can continue the treatments at home for as long or as often as
needed. Then, I went searching around the Internet, and found that
there are other generic versions of the infra red units which are
considerably lower priced and within the grasp of most people! 
I can't speak of their comparability or effectiveness, however.

My memory is hazy, and I am too lazy to go back to search the archives
tonight, but I think the topic of infra red LEDs has enjoyed quite a bit
of coverage on this site in the not too distant past, and if you are
reading this and were one of the contributors to the earlier discussions,
it would be nice if you spoke up again about the benefits of infra red to
amplify the current discussions about neuropathy or directed the readers
to the best sources of information in the archives. 
Marlys





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Re: CS

[Christine Carleton]

BodyTalk is a dynamic systems theory that encompasses all the advantages of
allopathic, naturopathic, chiropractic, traditional Chinese medicine,
anatomy, physiology and many other modalities into one expansive integrated
system.  What impressed me?  BT turned on abdominal breathing that had been
locked off for 40+ years due to polio.  Then I started to think again, and
healing repairs started.  Further info:  www.bodytalksystem.com

Christine


Christine Carleton, C.B.P.
Certified BodyTalk® Practitioner,
International BodyTalk System Association
http://www.bodytalksystem.com
http://www.mybodytalk.com (up before Jan 31st)

~
From: kent ke...@shaw.ca
What is body talk?

- Original Message -
From: Christine Carleton mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: CS

Denise,

When I go ice cold from paralytic polio it is classically called 'brown
out'. All along my spine and deep within to the core of me is ice cold like
touching ice in the freezer.  It physical reality terms it means I am
loosing brain and central nervous system cells that allopathic medicine
indicates can never be regained.  Also my meridians are closed down and some
brain connections are compromised.  I use BodyTalk to reactive them.  It's
very hard on the body and takes time to regain some of the lost information.
Energy levels remain low for weeks.  BT is the only relief I have found.
Food and water help marginally, as does a hot bath each hour, but when the
core is shutting down, it's time for bigger guns - contacting the innate
wisdom within and seeing if it is prepared to restart the system.

Warmly with eHugs,

Christine

Christine Carleton, C.B.P.
Certified BodyTalk® Practitioner,
International BodyTalk System Association
















From: Denise Rollheiser neec...@sasktel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:56:17 -0600
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:54:22 -0800


Thanks, Kent.  I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist
could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the
'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal
with it by 'mind over matter'!  The sensations in my feet are primarily that
of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them,
they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2
when he gets covered in nitrogen gas!

I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other
than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss
surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side
effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take
charge of my own medical treatment!

That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic
practitioner

Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do
on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)Doctors!  I don
need no stinkin' doctors!

Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24
hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain.  This morning it is
-6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week!

Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot!

Denise
- Original Message -
From: kent mailto:ke...@shaw.ca
Hi Denise,
I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years
ago.  If your feet feel like they are burning similar to the body warming
up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help.  It is primarily used for
neuropathic pain.  I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular
neuropathic situation.  I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin
is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a
different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina
and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there).
Kent

Re: CSMercury toxicity...

[Nina Whit]

A homeopathic preparation can remove mercury also.


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Re: CS (OT paralytic polio and magpulsers)

[Christine Carleton]

Thanks for a great article.  With a stroke an individual can reactive the
cells that have lost the information to support performance.  With polio,
96-97% of the central nervous system was destroyed.  It appears that
overwork on the remaining 3-4% of cells that know how to duplicate is
significantly compromised.  Thus they rebuild shoddy cell factories, which
over time are less and less capable of reproducing the shoddy cell
factories.  PPS (post polio syndrome) is breakdown of the compromised cell
factories. It's called a 'brown out'.  It's a bit ugly if one is aware of
loosing brain functioning when they 'blow the cell factories'.  It happens
when one overextends with exercise and/or work.  Fried out forever.
Unfortunately magnetics cannot restart that which has decades of
deteriorated information at a cellular level.  The rule within the polio
circles is 'Use it, and lose it'.  So one is encouraged to conserve energy -
'Brown outs' come from over-extending.  Good things, like CS water, and
other common sense nutrition factors are helpful.
CC

 From: scl...@netzero.net scl...@netzero.net

 You may want to consider a magpulser or if you live near a Papimi clinic get
 some treatments. There is a lot of research going on right now into the
 benefits of magnetic energy. This article from the NY Times was in the
 magpulser forum a few days ago. Very encouraging.


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Re: CSbasic dumb question

[Ode Coyote]

I get this odd feeling that EIS will turn out to be some sort of dynamic
quantum material that is always changing.
 This stuff is slipperier than a moon beam.
..always the same in different ways..
 And every rule makes 3 exceptions to it pop out.

Ode


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Re: CSMercury toxicity...

[Ole Alstrup]

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RE: CS (OT paralytic polio and magpulsers)

[Louise]

I believe homeopathic remedies can also be helpful.

Louise

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From: Christine Carleton [mailto:essential-liv...@telus.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS (OT paralytic polio and magpulsers)


Thanks for a great article.  With a stroke an individual can reactive the
cells that have lost the information to support performance.  With polio,
96-97% of the central nervous system was destroyed.  It appears that
overwork on the remaining 3-4% of cells that know how to duplicate is
significantly compromised.  Thus they rebuild shoddy cell factories, which
over time are less and less capable of reproducing the shoddy cell
factories.  PPS (post polio syndrome) is breakdown of the compromised cell
factories. It's called a 'brown out'.  It's a bit ugly if one is aware of
loosing brain functioning when they 'blow the cell factories'.  It happens
when one overextends with exercise and/or work.  Fried out forever.
Unfortunately magnetics cannot restart that which has decades of
deteriorated information at a cellular level.  The rule within the polio
circles is 'Use it, and lose it'.  So one is encouraged to conserve energy -
'Brown outs' come from over-extending.  Good things, like CS water, and
other common sense nutrition factors are helpful.
CC



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CSZinc Chloride

[Matthew McCann]

This citation was forwarded to me regarding the
dangers of zinc chloride.


   http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/z/zinc_chloride.htm

  Best regards,

  Matthew


 
 
 

Re: CSbasic dumb question

[sol]

I have found the same thing, very hard to get the same thing to happen 
consistently with CS. Just when I think I know what is going on, 
something different happens.

sol

Ode Coyote wrote:


I get this odd feeling that EIS will turn out to be some sort of dynamic
quantum material that is always changing.
This stuff is slipperier than a moon beam.
..always the same in different ways..
And every rule makes 3 exceptions to it pop out.

Ode


 




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CSCS: RE ALA /Diabetes,neuropathy,etc

[Harold MacDonald]

You may be better off to look at R-Lipoic Acid rather than ALA.This form of
R-Lipoic is available from www.VRP.com
This is very important and you will be able to get excellent info from them
why.I have no ties to them other than using their products; with
satisfaction.
Harold


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Re: CSxylitol and CS

[sol]

That is interesting. I've had CS in both plastic and glass jars, plastic 
and metal canning lids respectively, and have never seen any mold on the 
underside of the lids. Frankly it would worry me a lot. Mold really 
should not grow in pure distilled water should it?


I recently did have an incident of black mold growing in dishwashing 
liquid (7th generation). It was horrible, but I didn't notice it for a 
long time until the smell got overwhelming. This black mold, in which I 
was washing our glasses and dishes, silverware, and all, may have been 
partly responsible for the cold I had last fall? At any rate, everything 
that had this dishwashing liquid in it got the black mold. I have gone 
back to Palmolive dishwashing liquid, and tossed out some pump bottles 
and chloroxed others. What a mess. For some things, chlorine bleach is 
the most effective. CS in the bottles with the 7th generation dish soap, 
or used to wash and rinse the pump bottles only slowed down the mold. I 
feel sure it was affecting my animals, too, as their water bowls and 
food dishes were also washed with the moldy crap.


Don't know what the black mold was, but isn't Aspergillus black?
sol

Dave wrote:

  I wouldn't pay much attention to that as I quite often have to soak 
the lids of my CS jars to get rid of the mold that grows there.
  It grows on the moist inside of the lid which is moist with water 
vapor which is the same as pure distilled water.
  If I saw mold growing in or under the Xylitol then it would be a 
concern.

Dave

brick...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
ami...@starband.net writes:

Hi Brickley,

Where did you get the info that Xylitol feed Aspergillus? Paul 
Holloway (silver-List) saw Aspergillus growing inside of a Xylitol 
bottle.

Brickey




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CSMold on lids of CS storage bottles, etc, was Re: CSxylitol and CS

[sol]

Just replied to the below with my experience and forgot to change the 
subject. Here is what it should have been!

sol

Dave wrote:

  I wouldn't pay much attention to that as I quite often have to soak 
the lids of my CS jars to get rid of the mold that grows there.
  It grows on the moist inside of the lid which is moist with water 
vapor which is the same as pure distilled water.
  If I saw mold growing in or under the Xylitol then it would be a 
concern.





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CStetrasil, etc PLUS RECIPE

[Matthew McCann]

http://www.camd.lsu.edu/msds/z/zinc_chloride.htm

Please be cautious about the recipe given previously in

this thread. The MSDS citation given above indicates that

zinc chloride is quite dangerous. I don't recommend it

be used.



Matthew

Re: CSxylitol and CS

[Paul Holloway]

Someone told me that their xylitol solution grew black mould in it. When I 
researched it, I found that some xylitol is made using aspergillus species, and 
some species contain xylitol dehydrogenase, so they could be metabolizing it. 
That was enough for me to stop using it as a sinus rinse, as I know I have 
aspergillus in my sinuses. If you don't have any fungus problems, xylitol is 
great. It might be wise to make up fresh solution regularly, just in case.

Witteveen, C.F.B., Weber, F., Busink, R.  Visser, J. 1994 Purification and 
characterization of two xylitol dehydrogenases from Aspergillus niger. 
Microbiology 140: 1679-1685.


Paul H
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  From: brick...@aol.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:53 PM
  Subject: Re: CSxylitol and CS


  In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:11:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
ami...@starband.net writes:
Hi Brickley,



Where did you get the info that Xylitol feed Aspergillus?

Paul Holloway (silver-List) saw Aspergillus growing inside of a Xylitol 
bottle.

  Brickey

CSRe:CScs matallic after taste

[William Amos]

Hi Boone:
I don't imagine your 12 vdc transformer has a filter capacitor
on it. If you could locate an oil filled DC capacitor and run your leads to it 
and then to your silver rods you would get a more pure DC and also increase the 
DC voltage about 60 percent
to around 19 vdc. These capacitors are polarized with a + 
marked on the positive terminal, so it is important to hook it up correctly. 
You would need one that is rated above the operating voltage of 20 vdc or more 
and a microfarad rating
of 25 mfd or even much higher which would be even better.
I tried both of your methods today, but really couldn,t tell a lot of 
difference. Of course being a smoker makes a difference in taste...Bill 
Amos
--
I ' ve been making cs for a few months by using dc 12 v output 170 mA  
transformer and 36 v  battery system.  The cs produces from the transformer 
taste like matallic water. The cs from battery has no metallic after taste. Can 
you tell me why are they so different ?



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Re: CSbasic dumb question

[Jonathan B. Britten]

I think that plain old water fits the description below!   Peter 
Warshall had a great essay about water some years ago in Whole Earth;  
if you can find it you will see what I mean.




On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 19:27 Asia/Tokyo, Ode Coyote wrote:

I get this odd feeling that EIS will turn out to be some sort of 
dynamic

quantum material that is always changing.
 This stuff is slipperier than a moon beam.
..always the same in different ways..
 And every rule makes 3 exceptions to it pop out.

Ode


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Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.

[Brooks Bradley]

 I believe the gentlemen Dan may be referring to are Dr. Burt 
Berkson (author of Alpha Lipoic Acid Breakthrough, and Dr. Russell Blaylock, 
author of Exitotoxins, The Taste That Kills.  Both of these M.D. credentialed 
allopaths have done genuinely seminal work in their respective fields.  I 
genuinely recommend the work of both.to all list members.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
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Subject: Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:09:08 +0900

 
 AP reported yesterday that doctors in Brazil (?) successfully 
 implanted stem cells from a person with diabetes into the same 
 person's pancreas,  enabling that organ to produce insulin and 
 curing the patient's diabetes.  No embryonic issues involved in 
 this new method.  . .
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, Jan 25, 2005, at 08:46 Asia/Tokyo, Debbie Mcdonald wrote:
 
  I'm mercury toxic and ALA makes me insane, it is horrific. I 
  cannot tolerate very small doses so anyone might want to start 
  low.
 
  Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote:
 
  Re: CS Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
 
  Can't remember which practitioner (MD / alternative practitioner) it
  was but he was recommending Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) for diabetic
  neuropathy. His recommendation on dose for those with the condition was
  200mg three times a day.
 
  Don't just do this and forget about losing weight and following up on a
  holistic approach!
 
  Dan
 
 
 
 
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CSVitamin restrictions in Europe challenged.

[Jonathan B. Britten]

List,

From Life Extension Products:

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