Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]

2008-03-18 Thread faith gagne

MSM may be okay if one is not allergic to sulphur.  Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]



Hi There Hanneke - yes I make it only with distilled water, I have a
personal thought
which is to keep things out of each other's way - I use CS of course for
just about
everything and more !   However when I use anything I tend to use it
alone, that is to
say I will use it and leave a half hour or so before using another
product - so I make
my MSM only with distilled water and keep one bottle beside my computer
and one
beside the TV as well as my CS, and use them each every half hour if I
have been doing alot of work or watching I always believe in
the KISS system 
Take good care - did you by chance visit my site below ?
Sandee

Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset
http://www.alive-again.net/


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Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]

2008-03-18 Thread Dee
I thought sulphur made up most of the body.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: faith gagne
Date: 03/18/08 11:58:24
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]
 
MSM may be okay if one is not allergic to sulphur.  Faith G.
 
 

Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]

2008-03-18 Thread faith gagne
I guess I don't have any.  Faith G.
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  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]


I thought sulphur made up most of the body.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: faith gagne
Date: 03/18/08 11:58:24
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: CSCataracts]

MSM may be okay if one is not allergic to sulphur.  Faith G.

   
  
   


RE: CScataracts, joints

2008-03-18 Thread Dan Nave
This may be a bit of a long stretch, but from my own experience if I
drink coffee, it affects the connective tissue around the joints
especially lower back and hips and some on the other joints as well.  It
is very painful.  I had to stop *ALL* coffee for about 3 weeks before
clearing this out.  Now I can only drink some coffee about once a week
without these effects.  Without it, and with glucosamine, I am doing
amazing things...
 
MSM was helpful for my lower back and hands, but (really!) exacerbated a
problem I had with my knee, and tears up my stomach if I take too much,
go figure...
 
Dan
 
 





From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20fl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CScataracts


  Thanks to all who have responded to us.  He has used ibuprofen
but it did not help him.  Other otc's also.  Naproxen did help and he
used it consistently until Celebrex.  He did the complete CMO thing with
the product recommended on this list or some other by someone.  It has
been a long time and I don't recall the particulars.  It was from an
individual person, not a company.  His problem began 5 years after a
back surgery.  The MD said arthritis would set in after about 5 years
and it did.  However, we had no idea it would be so crippling;  we just
expected aches and pains, not constant agony.  I will tell him about the
flax oil drops since we have and use Barlean's regularly.  He will give
it a good try I'm sure.  He has upped his cs intake to a pint or so a
day and doesn't have to be cajoled or reminded.  I think he will be
interested to find out that one of the iodine docs-maybe Abraham,
recommends 50 mgs. per day for 3 months for saturation, then down to
12.5 for maintainance.  Since the iodine has made a noticeable
difference at a lower dose, it sounds reasonable to give that a shot.
And I am making a gallon of new cs just now--a quart or so a day might
be a good idea.  What's a little blue between friends. :)  But I make
the good stuff anyway.   Thanks again to all.   I have ordered the
Can-C.  It should arrive soon and when we know something I will report.
Best wishes, pj 



RE: CSFits

2008-03-18 Thread Dan Nave
Can you describe how you make the tincture, what plant and plant parts?

Thanks,

Dan 

 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@orcon.net.nz] 
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:41 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSFits
 
 
 On 16 Mar, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Dee wrote:
 
 Just a question: does anyone know of anything that will help 
 a dog which has just started fitting?  Many thanks in advance.  Dee
 
 
 
 I might be a little late with my reply but I saved the 
 message below some time ago from the CS list. Can't say how 
 well it works as I've not yet had to put it to the  test - 
 thank goodness. Hope it may be of some help.
 
 Cheers,  Roger
 
 
 
 
 I cured a veterinarian's Dachund of seizures with one 
 treatment of Lobelia Tincture, that I make myself...The 
 vet said it was a spontaneous remission  (r i g h t)  The 
 dog never had another oneI told this to my vet who is 
 a Chinese Herbalist and uses acupuncture on dogs and 
 animalsHe took some from me and gave me credit on my 
 bill..  He later said he had the same experience with 
 some of his patients...I don't know if the tinctures you 
 can buy will do the same thing. but check out Dr. 
 Christopher's website and see if he has anyIf you can't 
 find any let me know and I'll send you some.
 
 
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Re: CScataracts

2008-03-18 Thread Rowena
Cineraria is a specific for cataracts (homeopathic).
Coconut water has a reputation for fixing cataracts.
Frex has a frequency set for cataracts (and other complaints). 
http://heal-me.com.au
(It also has a frequency silver).

R


  there's a company with homeopathic eye drops fromulated by an opthamalogist 
with success riding cataracts. they are sold through barrysnutrtion.com. they 
can give contact info.



Re: CScataracts

2008-03-18 Thread Gayla Roberts
Dusty Miller is also specific for cataracts.
Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California
aera...@gmail.com 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:15 AM
  Subject: Re: CScataracts


  Cineraria is a specific for cataracts (homeopathic).
  Coconut water has a reputation for fixing cataracts.
  Frex has a frequency set for cataracts (and other complaints). 
http://heal-me.com.au
  (It also has a frequency silver).

  R

   
there's a company with homeopathic eye drops fromulated by an opthamalogist 
with success riding cataracts. they are sold through barrysnutrtion.com. they 
can give contact info.



Re: CSVaccine Induced Diseases

2008-03-18 Thread Marshall Dudley

Wayne Fugitt wrote:

At 09:57 PM 3/17/2008, you wrote:
I am saying that INOCULATIONS CAUSE ALL AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE AND 
CANCER; CAUSING VIDS (VACCINE INDUCED DISEASES),


 Tons of scientific facts disprove this,

 Plus many  people state that NO Autoimmune Disease exists.

  The simplest way to disprove it. .

  No one that never had any vaccination never had any disease.
The records indicate that Jesus of* *Nazareth did not ever have any 
sicknesses.


Actually I think the proof is that if you take something that resets the 
immune system (Such as CMO) and it cures the disease, then the disease 
must have been cause by the immune system.


Marshall


  99 % of all the research and facts in the world today would be 
worthless.


  Wayne

=

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CSMarshall's Article on Sandee's site - Olive leaf

2008-03-18 Thread Rowena
Thanks for including your link, Sandee - I always love to visit lister's sites.

I've passed on the info there to various health buddies.  I did have a thought 
about one point made in the argyria rebuttal article you linked to, related to 
the mention of olive leaf.

The article at http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm said: 
Although there were no modern antibiotics, there were still a number of well 
known, and quite powerful antibiotics such as garlic, grape seeds, olive leaves 
(which is mentioned in the Old Testament, which is believed to predate the 
FDA),

Garlic and grapes are also mentioned in the Bible, and while it was quite a 
humorous point to mention the OT as predating the FDA, I question the 
appropriateness, given that the mention has nothing to do with health (unless 
you count preservation from annihilation by global flood a health plus), and 
doesn't strengthen your case.  The most it can serve to illustrate is that 
somewhere within flying distance of Ararat, an olive tree had sprouted.  It 
looks as if you are claiming the Bible supports your argument, and I recall 
someone in another article once saying silver was mentioned in the Bible, as if 
that validated their argument.  Gold is mentioned also, and pearls, and carob 
pods, and locusts, but apart from wine and olive oil (topical application, Good 
Samaritan parable), and maybe figs (King Hezekiah's boil) I wouldn't feel 
confident of trying to support any health argument I might want to make by 
saying so-and-so is mentioned in the Bible, any more than bathing in the Jordan 
(have you seen the state of that river?) for leprosy.

The paragraph reads as if you are referring only to olive leaf (which is 
mentioned) but even if you were referring to the Bible's mention of garlic and 
grape (seeds) also, it still does nothing for your argument (which is quite 
convincing on its own).  The Israelites on their way out of slavery in Egypt 
longed for the garlic they used to have there and complained about their food 
supplies. Grape seeds don't get a mention as such, but the Israelites 
complained about entering Canaan despite seeing the massive bunches of grapes 
it grew, and grapes come up for mention in a variety of other ways, none of 
which help your point about antibiotics pre-colloidal silver and might seem to 
put your authorities on the level of those of the writer of the original 
article.

Apart from concern about any perceived claim for support of your point from 
the Scriptures, I'm also concerned that other less careful scourers of the net 
will use your article without checking it out or even thinking about it clearly 
at all, and garble it to say that the Bible supports use of (whatever - silver, 
olive leaf, garlic etc) for health, when it doesn't directly do so at all.  I 
feel this then undermines the credibility of other perfectly valid points that 
might be made.

Rowena



Take good care - did you by chance visit my site below ?
Sandee  http://www.alive-again.net/



RE: CScataracts

2008-03-18 Thread Dan Nave
How is it taken?
 
Dan




From: Gayla Roberts [mailto:aera...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScataracts


Dusty Miller is also specific for cataracts.
Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California
aera...@gmail.com 


- Original Message - 
From: Rowena mailto:new...@aapt.net.au  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: CScataracts

Cineraria is a specific for cataracts (homeopathic).
Coconut water has a reputation for fixing cataracts.
Frex has a frequency set for cataracts (and other
complaints). http://heal-me.com.au http://heal-me.com.au 
(It also has a frequency silver).
 
R

 

there's a company with homeopathic eye drops
fromulated by an opthamalogist with success riding cataracts. they are
sold through barrysnutrtion.com. they can give contact info.





Re: CSFits

2008-03-18 Thread Day Sutton
I make mine of Lobelia leaf, root and stem.  Soak in 80% Vodka to cover for
two weeks.  This is Dr. Shultz recipe.  google him or Dr. Christopher...

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com
wrote:

 Can you describe how you make the tincture, what plant and plant parts?

 Thanks,

 Dan

  -Original Message-
  From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@orcon.net.nz]
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:41 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSFits
 
 
  On 16 Mar, 2008, at 7:58 AM, Dee wrote:
 
  Just a question: does anyone know of anything that will help
  a dog which has just started fitting?  Many thanks in advance.  Dee
 
 
 
  I might be a little late with my reply but I saved the
  message below some time ago from the CS list. Can't say how
  well it works as I've not yet had to put it to the  test -
  thank goodness. Hope it may be of some help.
 
  Cheers,  Roger
 
 
 
 
  I cured a veterinarian's Dachund of seizures with one
  treatment of Lobelia Tincture, that I make myself...The
  vet said it was a spontaneous remission  (r i g h t)  The
  dog never had another oneI told this to my vet who is
  a Chinese Herbalist and uses acupuncture on dogs and
  animalsHe took some from me and gave me credit on my
  bill..  He later said he had the same experience with
  some of his patients...I don't know if the tinctures you
  can buy will do the same thing. but check out Dr.
  Christopher's website and see if he has anyIf you can't
  find any let me know and I'll send you some.
 
 
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Re: CSMarshall's Article on Sandee's site - Olive leaf

2008-03-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
The user of the word is instead of are should make it clear that it 
is only talking about Olive Leaf.


Marshall

Rowena wrote:
Thanks for including your link, Sandee - I always love to visit 
lister's sites.
 
I've passed on the info there to various health buddies.  I did have a 
thought about one point made in the argyria rebuttal article you 
linked to, related to the mention of olive leaf.
 
The article at 
http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/dark-side-rebutal.htm said: 
Although there were no modern antibiotics, there were still a number 
of well known, and quite powerful antibiotics such as garlic, grape 
seeds, olive leaves (which is mentioned in the Old Testament, which is 
believed to predate the FDA),
 
Garlic and grapes are also mentioned in the Bible, and while it was 
quite a humorous point to mention the OT as predating the FDA, I 
question the appropriateness, given that the mention has nothing to do 
with health (unless you count preservation from annihilation by global 
flood a health plus), and doesn't strengthen your case.  The most it 
can serve to illustrate is that somewhere within flying distance of 
Ararat, an olive tree had sprouted.  It looks as if you are claiming 
the Bible supports your argument, and I recall someone in another 
article once saying silver was mentioned in the Bible, as if that 
validated their argument.  Gold is mentioned also, and pearls, and 
carob pods, and locusts, but apart from wine and olive oil (topical 
application, Good Samaritan parable), and maybe figs (King Hezekiah's 
boil) I wouldn't feel confident of trying to support any health 
argument I might want to make by saying so-and-so is mentioned in the 
Bible, any more than bathing in the Jordan (have you seen the state of 
that river?) for leprosy.
 
The paragraph reads as if you are referring only to olive leaf (which 
is mentioned) but even if you were referring to the Bible's mention 
of garlic and grape (seeds) also, it still does nothing for your 
argument (which is quite convincing on its own).  The Israelites on 
their way out of slavery in Egypt longed for the garlic they used to 
have there and complained about their food supplies. Grape seeds don't 
get a mention as such, but the Israelites complained about entering 
Canaan despite seeing the massive bunches of grapes it grew, and 
grapes come up for mention in a variety of other ways, none of which 
help your point about antibiotics pre-colloidal silver and might seem 
to put your authorities on the level of those of the writer of the 
original article.
 
Apart from concern about any perceived claim for support of your 
point from the Scriptures, I'm also concerned that other less careful 
scourers of the net will use your article without checking it out or 
even thinking about it clearly at all, and garble it to say that the 
Bible supports use of (whatever - silver, olive leaf, garlic etc) for 
health, when it doesn't directly do so at all.  I feel this then 
undermines the credibility of other perfectly valid points that might 
be made.
 
Rowena
 
 
 
Take good care - did you by chance visit my site below ?

Sandee  http://www.alive-again.net/





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CSremove

2008-03-18 Thread Kenneth Payton

please remove me from this mailing list
Kenneth Payton