Re: CScytokine storm

2009-09-04 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I don't think anyone can be right all the time, I just think he has  
done great work for the alternative health cause; especially since he  
is a regular doctor too.  dee


On 3 Sep 2009, at 23:36, Dan Nave wrote:


Mercola is often not correct with his facts.  He has his positions and
just because he says something doesn't make it correct.





Re: CSClinical CS research funded by NCCAM.

2009-09-04 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Aren't these people bogus though?  I mean, pretending to be on the  
alternate side but all the while on the side of big pharma?  Maybe its  
someone else I'm thinking of.  dee


On 4 Sep 2009, at 02:12, Alchemysa wrote:

The question of whether electrically generated Colloidal Silver  
works in-vivo (in humans) can be settled once and for all if  
credible clinical trials are conducted. The National Centre for  
Complementary and Alternative Medicine is a US Federal Government  
Agency with a charter that includes the provision of funding for  
such research. They have a hefty budget for this.


http://nccam.nih.gov/





CSDMSO and GABA

2009-09-04 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are 
informed about a variety of health topics and substances.

It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as 
to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum.

My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream 
and past the blood-brain barrier.  As I understand it, DMSO can pass the 
blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it.  Because GABA is 
speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO 
help?  Topically or orally is my main question?

-Ken Bagwell


  

CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread Melly Bag
To those  of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did 
you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the 
Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS.  
Thanks.

Melly


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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread Clayton Family

Do you have a link to the info you are referring to?

There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

To those  of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long  
time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about  
calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just  
beginning to take and make CS.

Thanks.

Melly



CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread Karen and Jerry Conrad
I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be concerned 
about this. Karen Conrad



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RE: CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread Neville Munn

[did you make them take selenium as well,]

-No, and I don't either, and same with calcium.

 

N.

 

 
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 Subject: CSUnidentified subject!
 
 To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did 
 you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the 
 Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread Clayton Family
If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you 
have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with 
what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial 
of care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big 
business at it's worst- making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at 
the height of the recession. they are raking it in; by denying care and 
denying payment to doctors. They try to keep it all, as much as 
possible.


The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not 
based on reality- it IS happening already.


To have control is to take  responsibility for one's health and not to 
hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health 
care money the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend 
it. I can do that now if I want to be uninsured.


On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote:

I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be 
concerned about this. Karen Conrad

http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138



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Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread slickpicker
To have control is to take  responsibility for one's health and not to 
hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone.

But you're okay with handing it over to the government?



 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: 

=
If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you 
have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with 
what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial 
of care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big 
business at it's worst- making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at 
the height of the recession. they are raking it in; by denying care and 
denying payment to doctors. They try to keep it all, as much as 
possible.

The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not 
based on reality- it IS happening already.

To have control is to take  responsibility for one's health and not to 
hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health 
care money the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend 
it. I can do that now if I want to be uninsured.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote:

 I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be 
 concerned about this. Karen Conrad
 http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138


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Re: CSiodine allergy?

2009-09-04 Thread sol

rans...@atmc.net wrote:
Sol- 


I am well aware of your iodine problem and that you have been pronounced
with an allergy by the medical establishment.
Nope, you are quite wrong about that. 25 years ago I presented to my 
then doctor with severe whole body hives, the iodine allergy was found 
by a very long process of elimination and challenge. And I did not 
accecpt it easily, for several years I kept searching for anything else 
it could have been without finding anything. And in the years since 
then, I have tried umpteen things to get rid of all allergies without 
success.



Consider this- that you have allowed someone else, an Expert, to tell you
who and what you are, instead of deciding for yourself that, yes, I have a
problem, but I'm going to find a way around it.
See above, that is not how it happened. But you seem to be saying I 
should allow YOU to tell who and what I am? How would that be any 
different from what you think happened?


And, by being adamant that there is such a thing and that there is no way
around it but extreme avoidance, that you may be standing in someone else's
path of healing.
You might be exposing someone to a fatal reaction to iodine. But as to 
standing in the path of healing, I don't buy that iodine is the cure all 
for every ill. I have many times read of the miraculous effects of 
excessive intake of iodine, and I just don't buy it. Have you ever 
looked for the other side. The Japanese intake of iodine isn't all 
health and light, there are adverse effects, serious ones.


I maintain that you have not found the way around it yet. I'll be the very
first to admit that reactions to iodine can be extreme because I had extreme
reactions to it for a very long time.
Here I agree with you. I have not found the way around it yet, but I am 
still looking.
What exactly were your reactions? I'd be interested to have a 
conversation with you about what they were, and how you got around them.


I have never let a doctor tell me anything is incurable, unbeatable, etc and
I have beaten many things that they said could not be beaten. 
Nor do I. If I did, I'd have had a lot of invasive tests and procedures 
I have refused, and I'd be on a statin, and worse. I'd not be using CS 
either, lol. I do let doctors tell me their opinions, then I research, 
examine and come up with my own opinions.


I am convinced that my wife has some argyria in her fingernails. Do you see
me harping against CS/EIS anywhere? Actually, she still uses it in
emergencies, just not prophylactically.
I have that as well, though I am not personally 100% convinced it is 
solely from CS, I have a couple of other conditions which could be 
implicated or be causing silver to deposit in the nail beds. I haven't 
stopped my use of CS either, and will not, though I have cut back on 
daily intake, because my very high daily intake for over two years 
accomplished what I wanted to do, so don't need that high a dose anymore.


My proposition to you is that you should try to start finding ways to beat
the problem, not defend your limitations. 
Again, you seem to believe I am not doing that right along, which is far 
from the case. I simply stated what my body does in reaction to a 
substance.


But I'll say it again. I will NEVER accept that there really is such a thing
as an iodine allergy in humans.
Your belief, unfortunately, does not change anything for me. The fact 
that I react to iodine even when I don't know I've ingested or been 
exposed to it does tell me this isn't a case of reverse placebo effect.


So give me those details of what your own adverse reactions to iodine 
were, and how you got around or stopped them. I really want to know, I'm 
not being in the least sarcastic.


thanks in advance,
sol


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Re: CSiodine allergy?

2009-09-04 Thread sol

Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote:

Sol,

Can you eat foods that contain iodine?  Low?  Medium?  High?
Yes, I eat many foods that contain iodine. I do avoid some high iodine 
foods nearly completely, but some I can have if I don't overdo it and 
don't repeat often, and if I don't combine them in the same day or same 
meal with other highish iodine foods. Iodine is everywhere in all kinds 
of foods, impossible to avoid completely.


The lowest iodine foods I've been able to find on any site/list of 
iodine containing foods are sugared cola drinks and white sugar, and 
even those are not zero in iodine. I can't live on cola and white sugar, 
so yeah, I do eat iodine.

sol




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calcium, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread sol

Melly Bag wrote:
To those  of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS.  


Melly,
  I am now reading an interesting book The Calcium Lie. Not sure I 
agree with it all, but it is the other side re the need for calcium.

sol


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Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread sol

Clayton Family wrote:
If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you 
have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with 
what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of 
care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. 
And one doesn't have to be in an HMO either. My health insurace company 
practices those denials and exclusions as well as limits what doctors I 
can see and what tests I can have. They even control what pharmacy I can 
get Rx meds from. If we get Rx meds anywhere else they won't pay. If 
there is a generic available they pay nothing at all towards the brand 
name med. It is a very profitable racket, and it does constitute rationing.

sol


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Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread cking001
On this list, alarm sounding belongs on the silver OT list.
You are merely being rude.

Chuck
When it's up to your ears, keep your mouth shut!


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RE: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread Thora Rasmusen (Home)
I live in a country with universal health care, and it's just as corrupt as
the US.  The problem with health care is not insurance or universal health
care, or anything like that.

It's the fact that main stream medicine completely ignores the fact that
what we eat causes us to be sick.  The promotion of junk food and garbage
food is beyond any movement to promote healthy food.  The craziness in our
modern day system is all the insane things they do to our food, with
pesticides, herbicides, food additives, chemicals in the water.  It is
everywhere, and so very few people have any knowledge of the damage these
things do.  So very few people have any idea of what healthy food is.
Yesterday, I watched some one who had a blasting head ache all day sit down
and eat an apple turnover, made with premixed pastry, premixed apple
filling, premixed sugar topping, and a chocolate milk, and she truly thought
it would make her feel better.  What passes for food is disgusting, and what
passes for restaurants is disgusting.  I cringe every time I see the premade
restaurant food delivery truck pull up to a restaurant.  No one has any idea
what whole food is, or what home made means.

I'd love to see future food charts include a section called non-food to
include things like sugar, white flour, etc. so that people begin to
understand that there are things you should never eat.

There are extremely few people out there sharing with us the damage that
this stuff does, and those who do are ridiculed beyond belief.  There is too
much money to be made in processing food, and they have the knowledge to
hire marketers, add people and the like.  There is no money to be made in
whole food, etc.

Our society will need to make some sort of shift to get to the point where
it will promote something that will make a huge portion of society poorer
money wise so that all can be healthy.  I have no idea what that shift will
be.  But I sure do know that all those around me think I'm a fruit cake with
my eat natural attitude.  Very few would tolerate that, and would just go
back to following the crowd, so as to not make waves.  Our society does not
teach bucking the system at all.  We're taught to follow, listen to the
experts, and don't question.  We are certainly not taught to question our
medical system, that's taboo.

So, if you're interested in health, do not listen to any expert, do your own
research, and it will take a massive commitment of time.  This knowledge
isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter.  Remember, no oen makes
a dime if you get well.  No one.  Only you are better off.  No one is put in
a stronger position of control if you are well.  No one.  Only you are
stronger.  No government agency or insurance company is better off if you
are well, the reason for their existence will disappear if you are well,
they will not be needed to take care of you, they will not be needed to run
your life if your are well.  You can then run your own life.  Remember, only
you benefit if you are well.

I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live
in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it.
Period.

Thora

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have
been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes
for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and
exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst-
making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession.
they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They
try to keep it all, as much as possible.

The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on
reality- it IS happening already.

To have control is to take  responsibility for one's health and not to hand
it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health care money
the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend it. I can do
that now if I want to be uninsured.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote:

 I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be 
 concerned about this. Karen Conrad
 http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138


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Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)

2009-09-04 Thread Indi

Well, it's good to have health care coverage in the event of catastrophic
traumatic injury, that's the one area in which western allopathic medicine 
excels. But otherwise yes, I do agree. Prevention is the best medicine.
Since I stopped seeing doctors and started using CS and other alternatives 
my health has steadily improved.

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On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:59:06PM -0700, Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote:
 I live in a country with universal health care, and it's just as corrupt as
 the US.  The problem with health care is not insurance or universal health
 care, or anything like that.
 
 It's the fact that main stream medicine completely ignores the fact that
 what we eat causes us to be sick.  The promotion of junk food and garbage
 food is beyond any movement to promote healthy food.  The craziness in our
 modern day system is all the insane things they do to our food, with
 pesticides, herbicides, food additives, chemicals in the water.  It is
 everywhere, and so very few people have any knowledge of the damage these
 things do.  So very few people have any idea of what healthy food is.
 Yesterday, I watched some one who had a blasting head ache all day sit down
 and eat an apple turnover, made with premixed pastry, premixed apple
 filling, premixed sugar topping, and a chocolate milk, and she truly thought
 it would make her feel better.  What passes for food is disgusting, and what
 passes for restaurants is disgusting.  I cringe every time I see the premade
 restaurant food delivery truck pull up to a restaurant.  No one has any idea
 what whole food is, or what home made means.
 
 I'd love to see future food charts include a section called non-food to
 include things like sugar, white flour, etc. so that people begin to
 understand that there are things you should never eat.
 
 There are extremely few people out there sharing with us the damage that
 this stuff does, and those who do are ridiculed beyond belief.  There is too
 much money to be made in processing food, and they have the knowledge to
 hire marketers, add people and the like.  There is no money to be made in
 whole food, etc.
 
 Our society will need to make some sort of shift to get to the point where
 it will promote something that will make a huge portion of society poorer
 money wise so that all can be healthy.  I have no idea what that shift will
 be.  But I sure do know that all those around me think I'm a fruit cake with
 my eat natural attitude.  Very few would tolerate that, and would just go
 back to following the crowd, so as to not make waves.  Our society does not
 teach bucking the system at all.  We're taught to follow, listen to the
 experts, and don't question.  We are certainly not taught to question our
 medical system, that's taboo.
 
 So, if you're interested in health, do not listen to any expert, do your own
 research, and it will take a massive commitment of time.  This knowledge
 isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter.  Remember, no oen makes
 a dime if you get well.  No one.  Only you are better off.  No one is put in
 a stronger position of control if you are well.  No one.  Only you are
 stronger.  No government agency or insurance company is better off if you
 are well, the reason for their existence will disappear if you are well,
 they will not be needed to take care of you, they will not be needed to run
 your life if your are well.  You can then run your own life.  Remember, only
 you benefit if you are well.
 
 I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live
 in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it.
 Period.
 
 Thora
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:11 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
 
 If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have
 been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes
 for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and
 exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst-
 making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession.
 they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They
 try to keep it all, as much as possible.
 
 The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on
 reality- it IS happening already.
 
 To have control is to take  responsibility for one's health and not to hand
 it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health care money
 the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend it. I can do
 that now if I want to be uninsured.
 
 On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote:
 
  I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be 
  concerned about this. Karen Conrad
  

Re: calcium, was Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread John E. Stevens
100% organic whole food source selenium made by Innate Response is the
seleniumj I would recommend - and daily.  GTF chromium made by the same
company is excellent for diabetics, too.  i like Innate Response because
they own the organic farms used for their supplements.  No, I don't work for
them.  But they're one of the only and best organic whole food supplemental
companies out there in the marketplace.  Chromium piclionate is synthetic
and sometimes toxic.  I've been using CSW for over ten years in many various
ways. Weston Price was a master.

John.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:26 PM, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

 Melly Bag wrote:

 To those  of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time,
 did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which
 the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make
 CS.

 Melly,
  I am now reading an interesting book The Calcium Lie. Not sure I agree
 with it all, but it is the other side re the need for calcium.
 sol


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CSEIS and Miracle 2

2009-09-04 Thread Saralou
Does anyone use Miracle 2 products with EIS/Colloidal Silver?  To what 
benefit?


anddd (privately or on the OT list) I'm in the market to purchase 
some Miracle 2 soap and neutralizer; anyone have a favorite vendor?  At 
the moment am looking favorably at miracle2angels.com because I've not 
found a lower price ($10 for 22oz). 


Thanks.  Saralou


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Re: CSDMSO and GABA

2009-09-04 Thread Norton, Steve
The molecular weight of GABA is 16500 and DMSO is able to carry mplecules of up 
to a molecular weight of 1. So it may not be effective with GABA. 

- Steve N



From: Ken  Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri Sep 04 07:00:06 2009
Subject: CSDMSO and GABA 


I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are 
informed about a variety of health topics and substances.

It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as 
to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum.

My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream 
and past the blood-brain barrier.  As I understand it, DMSO can pass the 
blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it.  Because GABA is 
speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO 
help?  Topically or orally is my main question?

-Ken Bagwell



CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread Shirley Reed
  From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely
no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would
need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and
we don't do that.   pj


Re: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread mborgert






As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3, cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all. 
Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or just look up vitamin d3 as a mouse poison.

Mary
-- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com: --  From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and we don't do that. pj






Re: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread Dan Nave
Chocolate is a dog poison...

Dan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3,
 cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all.
 Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or just
 look up vitamin d3  as a mouse poison.

 Mary
 -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com:
 --

   From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely
 no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would
 need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and
 we don't do that.   pj



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Re: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread Annie B Smythe

LMAO! *Wiping Eyes* Thank you for that!

Annie


Dan Nave wrote:

Chocolate is a dog poison...

Dan

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
  

As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3,
cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all.
Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or just
look up vitamin d3  as a mouse poison.

Mary
-- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com:
--

  From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely
no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would
need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and
we don't do that.   pj





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Re: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread Dan Nave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide

Calciferols (vitamins D), cholecalciferol (vitamin D3) and
ergocalciferol (vitamin D2) are used as rodenticides. They are toxic
to rodents for the same reason they are beneficial to humans: they
affect calcium and phosphate homeostasis in the body. Vitamins D are
essential in minute quantities (few IUs per kilogram body weight
daily, only a fraction of a milligram), and like most fat soluble
vitamins, they are toxic in larger doses, causing hypervitaminosis. 
 etc



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote:
 As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3,
 cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all.
 Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or just
 look up vitamin d3  as a mouse poison.

 Mary
 -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com:
 --

   From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely
 no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would
 need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and
 we don't do that.   pj



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Re: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread mborgert








What is the point?

Mary

-- Original message from Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com: --  Chocolate is a dog poison...   Dan   On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote:   As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3,   cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all.   Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or just   look up vitamin d3 as a mouse poison. Mary   -- Original message from Shirley Reed :   --  From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely   no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would   need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and   we don't do that. pj  --  The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.   Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org   To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com   Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...   List maintainer: Mike Devour   






RE: CSDMSO and GABA

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Bond
In addition to what Steve said, it may be enhanced by using something like a 
“derma roller”.  You can get them at derma-rolllers dot com, or lipoxidil dot 
com and several other places.  They have lots of tiny needles that apparently 
can hardly be felt, but puncture the hard top layer of skin to allow better 
absorption of transdermals.

 

I’ve never tried one so can’t vouch for it’s effectiveness.

 

Paul B

 

From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] 
Sent: 05 September 2009 01:00
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO and GABA

 

The molecular weight of GABA is 16500 and DMSO is able to carry mplecules of up 
to a molecular weight of 1. So it may not be effective with GABA. 

- Steve N



RE: CSVit. D overdose

2009-09-04 Thread Dianne France

I'm glad I'm not a dog!
 


From: mborg...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSVit. D overdose
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 02:49:29 +



 

What is the point?

 

Mary

 

-- Original message from Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com: 
-- 


 Chocolate is a dog poison... 
 
 Dan 
 
 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote: 
  As everyone knows vitamin d3 is from the sun but vitamin d3, 
  cholecalciferol, in supplement form, is not a vitamin at all. 
  Cholecalciferol is also a mouse poison. Look up tomcat brand poison, or 
  just 
  look up vitamin d3  as a mouse poison. 
  
  Mary 
  -- Original message from Shirley Reed : 
  -- 
  
From what I have read on the www.vitamindcouncil.com he is in absolutely 
  no danger of overdosing. While it is true that one can overdose, one would 
  need to take hundreds of thousands of units daily for a very long time and 
  we don't do that.   pj 
  
 
 
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Re: CSUnidentified subject!

2009-09-04 Thread Melly Bag
Just google colloidal silver + selenium.  There are some websites that say that 
selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver.  
Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in 
tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i 
just lost the document last night.  i was reading it and somehow my computer 
blinked and out it went.  Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).

Melly

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:

 From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
 Subject: Re: CSUnidentified subject!
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
 Do you have a link to the info you are
 referring to?
 There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
 nuts. 
 On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
 wrote:
 To those  of you who used homemade CS
 for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
 selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
 Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
 take and make CS.  
 Thanks.
 
 Melly
 



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