Re: CSNeed a CS generator
ccsilver also a good place at http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four for small quantities of pure silver rod or strips. I would trust them before a jewelry store. Sam L. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote: I buy my 99.99% silver from Myron Thoback, NYC. Tel. no. 212-398-8300, as for Heman (pronouned Heeman). I like buying from them coz they are fairly honest and ship immediately. They explained to me that the fine 99.99% is the purest one can get. Also said, they never add anything to it. Melly
Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
I should think it is silver protein and *no-one* would want to ingest that for long! dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 06:44, Jason Vale wrote: 120 ppm. wish I knew how to make that!. I can only get from 12 to 20 ppm Jason
RE: CSI forgot
Thanks Dianne. From: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSI forgot Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:36:34 -0400 Felipe, Most of us use 10ppm to 20ppm CS, which is clear. Is there a reason you use 150? Also welcome to the group. Dianne From: felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:58:03 + Subject: CSI forgot the liquid is like orange and is dense. Felipe.Thanks Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos! Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. Try Bing now. _ Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos! http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades
RE: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm?? Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:30:01 +0100 I should think it is silver protein and *no-one* would want to ingest that for long! dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 06:44, Jason Vale wrote:120 ppm. wish I knew how to make that!. I can only get from 12 to 20 ppm Jason But do you think that is bad to take this king of colloidal 120ppm??? Felipe _ Descárgate Internet Explorer 8 ¡Y gana gratis viajes con Spanair! http://www.vivelive.com/spanair
FW: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
But do you think that is bad to take this king of colloidal 120ppm??? Felipe Con Vodafone disfruta de Hotmail gratis en tu móvil. ¡Pruébalo! _ Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos! http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades
CS120 ppm
Hello friends,somebody knows if is dangerous to take colloidal silver in 120ppm,because the normal is between 10ppm. Thanks. _ Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos! http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off , current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your money back. $75, free shipping. Can't tell you where 'cause I make them. But somebody will. Ode At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than nothing. Thanks, June mailto:jawm1...@yahoo.comjawm1...@yahoo.com --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com Subject: CSNeed a CS generator To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM Hello Everyone... I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need several things I'm not sure about. Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd greatly appreciate it. Best regards... Sandy from Texas Live and let live... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
Selenium is a key element in the elimination and levels control of many metals that in too high amounts would be toxic and are too common to easily avoid ingesting...like copper. Selenium itself is quite toxic in very small amountsif you get too much of it. Croak. Ode At 08:00 PM 9/5/2009 +0100, you wrote: Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take *anything* else? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: FW: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
Felipe: 120 ppm is much too strong for most illnesses. Not only that, but if it's truly colloidal silver water, 120 ppm would be horribly expensive. Hopefully, in the future you'll purchase your own CSW generator and make your own - much safer, much less costly. John 2009/9/6 felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com -- But do you think that is bad to take this king of colloidal 120ppm??? Felipe -- Con Vodafone disfruta de Hotmail gratis en tu móvil. ¡Pruébalo!http://serviciosmoviles.es.msn.com/hotmail/vodafone.aspx -- Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos!http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades
Re: CSI forgot
Felipe: When the CSW is orange colored, the particles are usually too large to be effective - in other words, the particles are too large to get into the smallest capillaries in the body to kill the bacteria or pathogen that can hide deeply in the body. John On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:58 PM, felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.comwrote: the liquid is like orange and is dense. Felipe.Thanks -- Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos!http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades
Re: CS120 ppm
Hi I would not take CS at 120 ppm unless I knew what it was or made it myself. Yes 10 ppm is the norm and does a person good. Sam L. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:09 AM, felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello friends,somebody knows if is dangerous to take colloidal silver in 120ppm,because the normal is between 10ppm. Thanks. -- Messenger cumple 10 años ¡Descárgate ya los nuevos emoticonos!http://www.vivelive.com/felicidades -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSRe: SORe: name calling
This is why Mike says non political views here, it always a argument. Please move to the OT list. Thank you Sam L.
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
Felipe: I suggest buying a good CSW generator for around $159.00 American. You can make a simple CSW generator cheaply, but they're not as good as the folks who have been making them for 15 - 20 years and know the secrets to making the smallest particles of ppm which are the most effective healing wise. John 2009/9/5 felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com I would like make coloidal silver but,its dificult for me to make it,do you have easy instruction to make it? Thanks. -- Hay tantos ordenadores como personas. ¡Descubre ahora cuál eres tú!http://www.quepceres.com/
RE: CSto make,coloidal silver
[but they're not as good as the folks who have been making them for 15 - 20 years] -Pardon? Beg to differ, yes they are, every bit as good. N. Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 06:23:45 -0400 Subject: Re: CSto make,coloidal silver From: jonellis.steven...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Felipe: I suggest buying a good CSW generator for around $159.00 American. You can make a simple CSW generator cheaply, but they're not as good as the folks who have been making them for 15 - 20 years and know the secrets to making the smallest particles of ppm which are the most effective healing wise. John 2009/9/5 felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com I would like make coloidal silver but,its dificult for me to make it,do you have easy instruction to make it? Thanks. Hay tantos ordenadores como personas. ¡Descubre ahora cuál eres tú! _ Need a place to rent, buy or share? Let us find your next place for you! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
I have a nice little book---Colloidal Silver Today--the All- Natural
Wide-Spectrum Germ Killer by Warren Jefferson, {{ was $3.95 / copy}} Has
good explanations, lots of information, Good directions on how to build your
own generator. {{even says you can use 1, 9 volt battery get superior EIS
(CS). }} On the back cover even a comment by, our esteemed, Ode
Coyote... Lois
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
Here it is: http://tinyurl.com/m7nekh
Chuck
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I have a nice little book---
Colloidal Silver Today--the All- Natural Wide-Spectrum Germ Killer by
Warren Jefferson, {{ was $3.95 / copy}} Has good explanations, lots of
information, Good directions on how to build your own generator. {{even
says you can use 1, 9 volt battery get superior EIS (CS). }} On the back
cover even a comment by, our esteemed, Ode Coyote...Lois
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Re: CSNeed a CS generator//Thanks Chuck
I wanted to get a couple more copies to pass to friends---Lois In a message dated 9/6/2009 7:40:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cking...@nycap.rr.com writes: http://tinyurl.com/m7nekh
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:24:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes:
I suggest buying a good CSW generator for around $159.00 American. You
can make a simple CSW generator cheaply, but they're not as good as the folks
who have been making them for 15 - 20 years and know the secrets to making
the smallest particles of ppm which are the most effective healing wise.
John
Yikes, $$$--- I've been making great EIS (CS) with the 9 volt batteries
silver wire. It takes good distilled water--clean tools hands--- a
glimps every once in awhile to make sure it is behaving it's self . I like the
use of the laser light to see when there is a nice line showing. (even in
the daylight.) {{ I did order the silver puppy for my daughter--she lives
the life of a very busy working Mom and likes the auto-shut off feature.. }}
The EIS (CS) I get using the 9 volt battery method has helped many people
pets for several different conditions.. You don't have to go the
expensive way,,, Lois
CS[List Owner]Reminder...
I need to remind some folks that political discussions are not permitted here on the main silver list. The OT list is available for *civil* conversation on such topics. See the silver list web site for instructions on joining the OT list. (Links below...) The alleged Health Care Reform debate completely ignores what most of us realize is wrong and corrupt in mainstream medicine. There isn't any point I can see in bringing to our group the superficial but acrimonious debate over who pays and who controls a basic system that does everything possible to exclude healthy, economical alternatives from development and use. Thank you. Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
I suppose occasionally wouldn't hurt but definitely not long term. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 10:05, felipe lopez wrote: From: d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm?? Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:30:01 +0100 I should think it is silver protein and *no-one* would want to ingest that for long! dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 06:44, Jason Vale wrote: 120 ppm. wish I knew how to make that!. I can only get from 12 to 20 ppm Jason But do you think that is bad to take this king of colloidal 120ppm??? Felipe Con Vodafone disfruta de Hotmail gratis en tu móvil. ¡Pruébalo!
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
I'd debate that anytime. John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: [but they're not as good as the folks who have been making them for 15 - 20 years] -Pardon? Beg to differ, yes they are, every bit as good. N. -- Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 06:23:45 -0400 Subject: Re: CSto make,coloidal silver From: jonellis.steven...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Felipe: I suggest buying a good CSW generator for around $159.00 American. You can make a simple CSW generator cheaply, but they're not as good as the folks who have been making them for 15 - 20 years and know the secrets to making the smallest particles of ppm which are the most effective healing wise. John 2009/9/5 felipe lopez felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com I would like make coloidal silver but,its dificult for me to make it,do you have easy instruction to make it? Thanks. -- Hay tantos ordenadores como personas. ¡Descubre ahora cuál eres tú!http://www.quepceres.com/ -- Let us find your next place for you! Need a place to rent, buy or share?http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
$159.00 is not expensive...
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:24:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes:
I suggest buying a good CSW generator for around $159.00 American. You can
make a simple CSW generator cheaply, but they're not as good as the folks
who have been making them for 15 - 20 years and know the secrets to making
the smallest particles of ppm which are the most effective healing wise.
John
*Yikes, $$$--- I've been making great EIS (CS) with the 9 volt batteries
silver wire. It takes good distilled water--clean tools hands--- a
glimps every once in awhile to make sure it is behaving it's self . I like
the use of the laser light to see when there is a nice line showing. (even
in the daylight.) {{ I did order the silver puppy for my daughter--she
lives the life of a very busy working Mom and likes the auto-shut off
feature.. }} The EIS (CS) I get using the 9 volt battery method has helped
many people pets for several different conditions.. You don't have to go
the expensive way,,, Lois*
--
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
Depends where you're coming from. It is *very* expensive to some, but peanuts to others. All relative really. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 14:14, John E. Stevens wrote: $159.00 is not expensive... On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:24:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes: I sugg
RE: CS120 ppm
I think it's much safer (and effective) to stick to around 10ppm or less, and if necessary then drink more. There's only so much that can stay in suspension while keeping particles small, and my understanding is 10ppm is comfortably under that kind of threshold. From: felipe lopez [mailto:felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com] Sent: 06 September 2009 10:10 To: chat definitivo de plata coloidal Subject: CS120 ppm Hello friends,somebody knows if is dangerous to take colloidal silver in 120ppm,because the normal is between 10ppm. Thanks.
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
There's a company that has been working since the late '80's experimenting and regulating the amps with the voltage and has come up with a superior CSW generator. It makes sense to me that the smaller the particles, the better health wise. If you can make a generator that makes particles .0008th of a micron, you've got CSW that will get into the smallest capillaries in the body to eliminate stealth diseases. Bigger particles cannot do that. The best CSW that I've seen and have used for years is absolutely clear, not gray or yellow in color. The color tells me the particles are too large to be supremely effective. Anyone can make a simple CSW generator that suspends colloidal silver, but the size of the particles matters greatly. Yes, the homemade generators are effective with some illnesses, but not as many pathogens as the smaller particles can eliminate. S. Spencer Jones, author of the original The Silver Water Manual, tested hundreds of CSW generators and found one to be superior to the others. And he doesn't work for any of the companies. He seems to know what he's talking about. John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Depends where you're coming from. It is *very* expensive to some, but peanuts to others. All relative really. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 14:14, John E. Stevens wrote: $159.00 is not expensive... On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:24:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes: I sugg
Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
If you have an accident in America, you get treated right away too. Then you get a bill, which a lot of people don't pay. The non payment is then spread out in the form of high hospital charges for everyone else to pay. So, we DO have socialized medicine and that's one reason why its so darned expensive. Add to that a ANOTHER huge layer of Gov't administrators and paperwork and you can kiss a budget good bye into unfunded liability land...like medicare/mediciad. Medicare/medicaid works pretty good...now...on borrowed money. When no one will loan you money anymore, you start inventing itand the FED has started doing just that. Then everything is running on pure faith with nothing to back it. So long as you keep the faith, that'll work...but reality has a nasty tendency to sneak up behind you in a boat load of zeros. The moral dilemma makes the practical one unsolvable. I can kick someone I know and like into the street for destroying my property with criminal neglect when they don't have to do such careless things. That person is not my responsibility ..they asked for it. But a total stranger that neglects his own life...is. In New Orleans, they tore down a lot of public housing because it just became un do-able. It simply couldn't be maintained faster than it was torn apart by the inhabitants. They watched their homes being torn down, pissing and moaning about how it could be fixed. BY WHO !!! ?? with WHAT ? You did nothing but mess up that which you were given, NOW it's yours? OK ,YOU fix it. I don't have a problem with helping somebody pull their little red wagon down the road for a while, done it many times. But when they stop pulling at all, sit there and collect rocks, whittle their names in the boards and pee on the floor..I'm gonna want to let go of the handle. Gov't mandate [force] says you can't..and that person sitting in what is now YOUR loaded wagon, knows it. And that Gov't just adds THEIR load in the cost of ENFORCING that ..YOU CAN'T. If you think it's expensive now, just wait till its' free. A DEMONSTRATED true-ism. Sooner or later, I'll agree. Yup, you are right, I can't. Can't let go and can't pull this dead load. Do me a favor and just run over me. I've helped a lot of people in a tough spot with free housing, food, loans [ Which I know from experience, are gifts.] 9 times out of ten, I wind up with shit on my shoes, taking a week to just clean up after them, literally by the multiple truck load and paying bills they snuck in on me. Yes, some people are truly helpless...but most are con artists that have come to believe their own con and call that sincerity...and they vote, intimidate and manipulate you with your healthy sense of guilt. As it stands, I can opt out by refusing services and not pay. I do have Health Insurance, with a $5,000 deductible..$1,200 a year and rising. I keep an account with at least $5,000 in it...not a Health Savings account as the paperwork is more onerous than the benefits from doing it. Soon, I'll have to go back to being a hermit to opt out of the scam. ..like, burn down my house so no one can move in to leave a mess and go live with the bears. Bears are honest. At least you *know* they'll kill you if you feed them and don't pretend otherwise. A true democracy is a cannibal. When it runs out of other people to eat, it eats itself until PEOPLE get scarce enough to value themselves...by no other choice. America is NOT a democracy, or at least, wasn't supposed to be... for darned good reason. Like the rail bum said to the middle class man: I have nothing, but at least I didn't have to bust my ass to get it Reply: My 25 year old kids still live at my home and they've invited their buddies over to stay. If I were only *just* brokeI too could have nothing rather than the less than nothing I work for $ 11 trillion in debt sez it all...soon to be, at least, 4 times that. Forced sharing is extortion. ..doesn't matter at this point. If you don't have it, you CAN'T share it, force or not. ..we already don't have it. This year, the FED has resorted to creating paper promises that can't be kept. But so has nearly everyone else, so Faith abides, for now. Well, here's your ordinary day to day hanging by a thread. That Faith runs on oil and don't look now..Iran is the key that will lock the door. If Iran rises and Iran sets the price, oil goes up. If Iran falls, oil goes up even more when Russia sets the price. Chavez may be megalomaniac, but he's not stupid. He's hedging his bets. The status quo depends on who controls a tiny strip of water. Green energy cannot do the job for the existing populations... Something's gotta give GWB said the stakes are high. He didn't say how high, or why. Remember who his daddy is. Bob Baer, touted as the spookiest man on the planet said $400 a barrel / huge world wide depression, last night.
CSFibromyalgia
http://www.earthclinic.com/ Fibromyalgia - cures David, from Chicago IL wrote us, I saw somewhere that apple cider vinegar cures Fibromyalgia. I don't definitely have it, but was diagnosed with it based on symptoms years ago. I've had muscle spasms varying in severity for 24 years. I just started to come out a 1 1/2 year bout with it. Drank vinegar and have been completely pain free for a week. It's asinine this isn't common knowledge. It feels kind of like an metabolism enhancer too. I'm down to 1 tablespoon twice a day. And I repeat I'm completely pain free. I don't know what was wrong with me, thought it was just something I had to live with. Somebody tell a doctor! (Earth Clinic note: If you try ACV for fibromyalgia and it works, PLEASE let us know! There are currently no known cures for fibromyalgia. This is the first cure that has been reported to us for fibromyalgia. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSLipo Delivery....to Encapsulate or Not to Encapsulate...
Hi Folks, I've got my US cleaner from Harbor Freight but must admit I haven't used it yet. Maybe this afternoon I'll get going on this beginning with vit.C. I, too, like Del, have questions about which substances may be more or less appropriate for LET delivery. I am excited about all the possibilities we have with LET but hope to stay on solid ground with it. At first glance, it seems that this would be the perfect method to get bacteria-killing agents into the deep tissues of someone with Lyme disease or other similar afflictions. Do we want to bypass the digestive process for everything we want delivered into the tissues or might there be certain things better taken the more traditional way(s). An example of one substance I can think of, off the top of my head, which may not be suitable for LET delivery is Beta Glucan. Here is some info. on Beta Glucan from one supplement manufacturer: http://www.immunocorp.com/sc/store.php?crn=205rn=376action=show_detailnav=immutol I wonder if the US encapsulation process could damage the delicate branches of the Beta Glucan rendering it less effective. They also mention in their printed brochure that it has an effect on the peyer's patches in the gut and affects the immune system so well as a result...(my words from what I can remember, not theirs). By this, one may assume that usual oral ingestion is the best . This being said, maybe LET would increase effectiveness with BG? Any ideas on this or on other substances you've considered? Has anyone lyposized CS yet and tried it on themselves to see what effect it had against pathogens? Does anyone have a recommended GSH for LET processing? Blesings to all, Peter - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: Re: CSLipo En. etc. I believe this was covered in Brooks Bradley's first post on liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C. 1 gm of liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C is as effective as 10 gm of Vitamin C taken by IV. Equivalency relative to oral Vitamin C is more complicated and will depend on the form of Vitamin C taken. As I understand it, liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C is released from encapsulation in the liver. - Steve N -- From: Joseph Metz josephm...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Sep 05 18:39:47 2009 Subject: CSLipo En. etc. This question went unanswered, as did an earlier one about the value of LEP. Is Del correct in LEP's advantage? When where will the encapsulated mater, e.g. Vit c, be released from the lipid? Thanks I have a question about this. It is my understanding that liposomal encapsulation enables the encapsulated material to bypass processing by the digestive system and enter the blood stream directly. I can see how that might be great for some items like ascorbic acid (Vit C) that are in the pure form that cells can use immediately. But is it a good thing for any and all supplements? Don't we need a little discrimination here? Del
Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
Well all of us who make our own with home generators, make completely clear EIS too! The particles are really tiny and if you add a couple of drops of hydrogen peroxide, they are smaller still. This cures any ills any of my family have had. And my generator was around $145 dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:35, John E. Stevens wrote: There's a company that has been working since the late '80's experimenting and regulating the amps with the voltage and has come up with a superior CSW generator. It makes sense to me that the smaller the particles, the better health wise. If you can make a generator that makes particles .0008th of a micron, you've got CSW that will get into the smallest capillaries in the body to eliminate stealth diseases. Bigger particles cannot do that. The best CSW that I've seen and have used for years is absolutely clear, not gray or yellow in color. The color tells me the particles are too large to be supremely effective. Anyone can make a simple CSW generator that suspends colloidal silver, but the size of the particles matters greatly. Yes, the homemade generators are effective with some illnesses, but not as many pathogens as the smaller particles can eliminate. S. Spencer Jones, author of the original The Silver Water Manual, tested hundreds of CSW generators and found one to be superior to the others. And he doesn't work for any of the companies. He seems to know what he's talking about. John
Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
At 120 PPM, it's not likely to be all that good. ..unless, a soluble ionic silver compound like Silver Citrate can be considered good...but that wouldn't be colloidal [nor is EIS ionic silver for the most part ] If you shake it and it foams..it's no good. Ode At 12:19 AM 9/6/2009 +, you wrote: -- Hi ,i am new,I am from Spain,and i would like more information about a coloidal silver 120 ppm because i dont know if this silver is of good qualityi am sorry ,i dont know to use this chat. -- ¿Quieres que tus amigos de Messenger sigan tus movimientos de Facebook? ¡Conéctalos ya! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
I'm wondering if this is to do with the herpes zoster virus because I get what I call stabbing pains usually around my rib area and under my arm in the soft bit. They feel as if someone is sticking a hot wire in intermittently and are also extremely sensitive to touch. I have always managed to get rid of it with lysine and CS but this doesn't seem to work lately. Maybe I will try the vinegar. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:40, Day Sutton wrote: http://www.earthclinic.com/ Fibromyalgia - cures David, from Chicago IL wrote us, I saw somewhere that apple cider vinegar cures Fibromyalgia. I don't definitely have it, but was diagnosed with it based on symptoms years ago. I've had muscle spasms varying in severity for 24 years. I just started to come out a 1 1/2 year bout with it. Drank vinegar and have been completely pain free for a week. It's asinine this isn't common knowledge. It feels kind of like an metabolism enhancer too. I'm down to 1 tablespoon twice a day. And I repeat I'm completely pain free. I don't know what was wrong with me, thought it was just something I had to live with. Somebody tell a doctor!
Re: CS120 ppm
I agree. Bob Beck said 3 - 5 ppm is adequate. Others say 7 - 10 ppm is adequate. I know of only one person who used 250 ppm to wipe out the flesh eating disease - which is very serious. But it did wipe it out. That was very costly - at around $350.00 a quart... Horribly expensive. SOTA tested the shelf life of 7 - 10 ppm and found that after 5 years, it was still suspended and it tested at 7 - 10 ppm - which is excellent. Storing CSW in amber colored glass bottles is the only way to go as far I'm concerned. If stored in plastic bottles, the silver is drawn magnetically, somehow, to the interior walls of the plastic. I wouldn't store anything in plastic because of the BPH (bephenols) content and the leeching factor. I store my refrigerated food in glass, not plastic. I also store all of my Spring water (which I retrieve from a pure local Spring) in gallon glass jugs. I wouldn't drink tap water if I was paid thousands to do so. And I filter my shower water - I don't want chlorine touching my precious body in any shape, way or form. It's a scientifically known cancer causer and it scratches (tears) little scars in the veins and arteries that then need cholesterol to patch them - thus causing cholesterol blockages to build-up. YUK! Of course I don't want any fluoride or the other 138 some odd contaminants in tap water touching my precious temple (body) either. Fluoride is another well known and scientifically proven cancer causer. I don't use a microwave because it changes the molecular structure of anything that is nuked in it. In fact, I won't allow a microwave oven in the house. Same thing with cell phones - the EMF's are too dangerous to the brain. There are many M.D.'s that think there will be a brain cancer epidemic in the USA because of overusing cell phones - especially amongst the youngsters. Canada has already warned their populace of the dangers of cell phones, but the USA is too greedy to do so. In good health. John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Paul Bond pmb...@gmail.com wrote: I think it’s much safer (and effective) to stick to around 10ppm or less, and if necessary then drink more. There’s only so much that can stay in suspension while keeping particles small, and my understanding is 10ppm is comfortably under that kind of threshold. *From:* felipe lopez [mailto:felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* 06 September 2009 10:10 *To:* chat definitivo de plata coloidal *Subject:* CS120 ppm Hello friends,somebody knows if is dangerous to take colloidal silver in 120ppm,because the normal is between 10ppm. Thanks. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4400 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
I have been using Raw Apple Cider Vinegar for several years. It has to be RAW to get the benefits of it Raw has the mother in it so to say all the sediment and goodies! I use it for my arthritis and it seems to help the inflammation. I also put it in my pets water dish it is good for them also. Donna ACS http://www.earthclinic.com/ Fibromyalgia - cures David, from Chicago IL wrote us, I saw somewhere that apple cider vinegar cures Fibromyalgia. I don't definitely have it, but was diagnosed with it based on symptoms years ago. I've had muscle spasms varying in severity for 24 years. I just started to come out a 1 1/2 year bout with it. Drank vinegar and have been completely pain free for a week. It's asinine this isn't common knowledge. It feels kind of like an metabolism enhancer too. I'm down to 1 tablespoon twice a day. And I repeat I'm completely pain free. I don't know what was wrong with me, thought it was just something I had to live with. Somebody tell a doctor! (Earth Clinic note: If you try ACV for fibromyalgia and it works, PLEASE let us know! There are currently no known cures for fibromyalgia. This is the first cure that has been reported to us for fibromyalgia. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
I don't think that we can get that here in the UK. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:57, Donna wrote: I have been using Raw Apple Cider Vinegar for several years. It has to be RAW to get the benefits of it Raw has the mother in it so to say all the sediment and goodies! I use it for my arthritis and it seems to help the inflammation. I also put it in my pets water dish it is good for them also. Donna ACS
Re: CSFibromyalgia
You must be drinking organic apple cider vinegar, yes? No? That mixed with a tablespoon of raw honey is effective against arthritis, too. A well balanced organic diet (natural meats, wild fish - not farmed, and organic veggies and fruits) will help with fibromyalgia, too. One cannot continually feed pesticide ladened, and artificially fertilized (both oil based) fruits and veggies into a pure body and not expect health problems. If I wanted oil based pesticide and fertilized food, I might as well drink a tablespoon of motor oil. YUK! And meats with growth hormones, antibiotics and steroids - again, YUK! They destroy the good bacteria in the intestines - just like regular pharmaceutical antibiotics, causing digestive as well as constipative and diarrhea problems. Yeah, they may be less costly now but the price you pay with your health later will be stupendous. Someone once said: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.earthclinic.com/ Fibromyalgia - cures David, from Chicago IL wrote us, I saw somewhere that apple cider vinegar cures Fibromyalgia. I don't definitely have it, but was diagnosed with it based on symptoms years ago. I've had muscle spasms varying in severity for 24 years. I just started to come out a 1 1/2 year bout with it. Drank vinegar and have been completely pain free for a week. It's asinine this isn't common knowledge. It feels kind of like an metabolism enhancer too. I'm down to 1 tablespoon twice a day. And I repeat I'm completely pain free. I don't know what was wrong with me, thought it was just something I had to live with. Somebody tell a doctor! (Earth Clinic note: If you try ACV for fibromyalgia and it works, PLEASE let us know! There are currently no known cures for fibromyalgia. This is the first cure that has been reported to us for fibromyalgia. -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSSilver electrodes
The difference is swamped out with every single breath or bite of food you take. ..about two parts per billion copper. .9997 compared to .2 @ 10 - 20 PPM of water...assuming the water is that pure. [it generally isn't] ode At 07:54 PM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: What is the difference in CS solution produced using 99.9% and 99.99% silver electrodes? Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia - and Cider Vinegar and arthritis.
Yes, just google for it. cider vinegar UK raw should bring it up fine. You know how they reckon that fibromyalgia sufferers have calcium phosphate deposits throughout the body? And you know how they reckon nanobacteria can hide from the body's immune system by building themselves a little shell from the body's own calcium and phosphate and stuff? (And that guaifenesin demolishes the Calcium Phosphate so it can be excreted?) Well, I wonder if the same thing might be happening with the cider vinegar? See the deposits off, at the same time exposing the nanobacteria to the body's natural defense mechanisms? Possibly even killing the nanobacteria? And same process for arthritis? And if, a la Dr Jarvis, one is also adding drops of Lugol's iodine to the brew - why, even more germ-killing power. Or Magnascent (magnascent.com) Eh? Eh? R Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I don't think that we can get that here in the UK. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:57, Donna wrote: I have been using Raw Apple Cider Vinegar for several years. It has to be RAW to get the benefits of it Raw has the mother in it so to say all the sediment and goodies! I use it for my arthritis and it seems to help the inflammation. I also put it in my pets water dish it is good for them also. Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia - and Cider Vinegar and arthritis.
Germ killing also by CS, of course, I hasten to add. Rowena And a bit of 6v battery zapping. And all the other things. But breaking down the walls a very useful thing to do. Rowena wrote: Yes, just google for it. cider vinegar UK raw should bring it up fine. You know how they reckon that fibromyalgia sufferers have calcium phosphate deposits throughout the body? And you know how they reckon nanobacteria can hide from the body's immune system by building themselves a little shell from the body's own calcium and phosphate and stuff? (And that guaifenesin demolishes the Calcium Phosphate so it can be excreted?) Well, I wonder if the same thing might be happening with the cider vinegar? See the deposits off, at the same time exposing the nanobacteria to the body's natural defense mechanisms? Possibly even killing the nanobacteria? And same process for arthritis? And if, a la Dr Jarvis, one is also adding drops of Lugol's iodine to the brew - why, even more germ-killing power. Or Magnascent (magnascent.com) Eh? Eh? R Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I don't think that we can get that here in the UK. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:57, Donna wrote: I have been using Raw Apple Cider Vinegar for several years. It has to be RAW to get the benefits of it Raw has the mother in it so to say all the sediment and goodies! I use it for my arthritis and it seems to help the inflammation. I also put it in my pets water dish it is good for them also. Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSto make,coloidal silver
John: There is no silver particle smaller than a silver ion. That is as small as it can get and still be silver. The best home generators generally make about 85% ionic silver. So 85% of what the home generators make is as small in particle size as it can get. It apparently is very difficult to make very, very small PARTICLES of silver (NOT IONS) that stay small in solution (as I understand it, they tend to clump together to make larger particles - this is when your solution turns colorful). However, we are talking particles here, not ions. I prefer not to regard ions as particles. This is semantics, but for our purposes we need to distinguish ions from particles. A colloid is a lot of very small particles in suspension in a liquid. This is difficult to achieve and remain stable, granted. The particles consist of multiple atoms of silver bonded together, thus A PARTICLE IS NOT AS SMALL AS AN ION! A solution is when the material (silver in this case) is dissolved in the liquid in the form of ions, which are simply electrically charged pure silver atoms (missing an electron?). This is relatively easy to achieve (we dissolve things in liquid every day) with some simple equipment, thus the home generators. So ions in solution are the smallest possible form of silver. But they are electrically charged, which means they have a tendency to interact with oppositely charged ions of other materials to form compounds. This gives rise to the controversy as to whether true colloids (tiny particles) are more effective than silver solutions (ions). The argument is that the silver ions form compounds when they hit the stomach, thus are not pure silver any more, and thus are no longer as effective at combating pathogens as pure ions, or as the tiny silver particles in a true colloid which are electrically stable (although much larger in size than ions). I am aware of this controversy, but am not qualified to comment on it. Besides, it has already been extensively discussed, and resolved to what I view as an uneasy truce between the two camps, since the colloids DO contain ions and the solutions DO contains at least 15% particles (you can see them in the beam of a laser). I cast my lot with the ionic solution many years ago and see no reason to change. The ionic stuff is very effective, so the colloidal party (if I can call them that) has to explain that away if they want to say their colloids are superior to ionic solutions. I also think there is much less chance of an amateur like me going astray and turning blue when using a good, self-limiting home generator. Excuse the length. It is partly because I started trying to explain it to myself. I have no direct expertise in all this, I am only saying what I understand from my reading of many discussions. Please correct me if the above is inaccurate in any detail. Del - Original Message - From: John E. Stevens To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:35 AM Subject: Re: CSto make,coloidal silver There's a company that has been working since the late '80's experimenting and regulating the amps with the voltage and has come up with a superior CSW generator. It makes sense to me that the smaller the particles, the better health wise. If you can make a generator that makes particles .0008th of a micron, you've got CSW that will get into the smallest capillaries in the body to eliminate stealth diseases. Bigger particles cannot do that. The best CSW that I've seen and have used for years is absolutely clear, not gray or yellow in color. The color tells me the particles are too large to be supremely effective. Anyone can make a simple CSW generator that suspends colloidal silver, but the size of the particles matters greatly. Yes, the homemade generators are effective with some illnesses, but not as many pathogens as the smaller particles can eliminate. S. Spencer Jones, author of the original The Silver Water Manual, tested hundreds of CSW generators and found one to be superior to the others. And he doesn't work for any of the companies. He seems to know what he's talking about. John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: Depends where you're coming from. It is *very* expensive to some, but peanuts to others. All relative really. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 14:14, John E. Stevens wrote: $159.00 is not expensive... On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:59 AM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/6/2009 6:24:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes: I sugg
Re: CSschizophrenia
I want to thank everyone for their information. Now I will see what I can get him to take. - Steve N - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat Sep 05 15:18:13 2009 Subject: CSschizophrenia The www.doctoryourself.com site has lots of info on this, I'm pretty sure. Seems pretty simple sometimes. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSchizophrenia help? VCNO, homeopathic + parasite herbs
There was a case reported on the virgin coconut oil discussion group where a young man with this disorder increased his dose of VCNO for some unknown reason to a pretty large dose. Apparently he passed an amazing number of intestinal worms, whereupon his schizophrenia disappeared. Always a good thing to get rid of any parasites, anyway. There was a report of students suffering from bipolar disorder testing antiparasitic treatment and finding it helped them. I would have no hesitation in trying homeopathic remedies, especially if selected by computer assisted diagnosis (Interro). A family member was experiencing severe hallucinations and other symptoms. Went for this treatment in January this year on a Monday, had a hallucination on Wednesday, and hasn't had one since. Rowena Norton, Steve wrote: I have a friend with a moderate case of schizophrenia that refuses medical help. Does anyone know of any natural supplements that might help? - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
Unfortunately, that pain free week could be (or by now) have been just a week of remission. My personal testimonial is that I have tried MANY cures for fibromyalgia and chronic joint pain, so far every single one turned out to be just another short remission. So for a claim like that to impress me, I'd have to see an update a year later saying the person has remained pain free for at least a whole year. A week isn't any proof at all to me, because I've been pain free for a week at a time many times, but it never lasts and whatever I thought was the cause of the remission never proved out long term. sol Day Sutton wrote: http://www.earthclinic.com/ Fibromyalgia - cures David, from Chicago IL wrote us, I saw somewhere that apple cider vinegar cures Fibromyalgia. I don't definitely have it, but was diagnosed with it based on symptoms years ago. I've had muscle spasms varying in severity for 24 years. I just started to come out a 1 1/2 year bout with it. Drank vinegar and have been completely pain free for a week. (Earth Clinic note: If you try ACV for fibromyalgia and it works, PLEASE let us know! There are currently no known cures for fibromyalgia. This is the first cure that has been reported to us for fibromyalgia. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
This is somewhat idyllic though. Not many of us have access to all this and just have to have what we can get and what we can afford unfortunately. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 16:02, John E. Stevens wrote: You must be drinking organic apple cider vinegar, yes? No? That mixed with a tablespoon of raw honey is effective against arthritis, too. A well balanced organic diet (natural meats, wild fish - not farmed, and organic veggies and fruits) will help with fibromyalgia, too. One cannot continually feed pesticide ladened, and artificially fertilized (both oil based) fruits and veggies into a pure body and not expect health problems. If I wanted oil based pesticide and fertilized food, I might as well drink a tablespoon of motor oil. YUK! And meats with growth hormones, antibiotics and steroids - again, YUK! They destroy the good bacteria in the intestines - just like regular pharmaceutical antibiotics, causing digestive as well as constipative and diarrhea problems. Yeah, they may be less costly now but the price you pay with your health later will be stupendous. Someone once said: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... John
Re: CSFW: its good a coloidal silver 120 ppm??
where in Spain are you - I know a guy in Barcelona who makes pure Colloidal Silver 10 -12 ppm On 05/09/2009, at 18:19, felipe lopez wrote: Hi ,i am new,I am from Spain,and i would like more information about a coloidal silver 120 ppm because i dont know if this silver is of good qualityi am sorry ,i dont know to use this chat. ¿Quieres que tus amigos de Messenger sigan tus movimientos de Facebook? ¡Conéctalos ya! ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CSFibromyalgia - and Cider Vinegar and arthritis.
I've been reading similar stuff but this time it is bacteria/viruses/ fungii wrapping themselves in protein and fooling the immune system. This is why I am taking proteolytic enzymes. I am going to Google cider vinegar though because then I can attack the little b..ger on all sides! dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 16:17, Rowena wrote: Yes, just google for it. cider vinegar UK raw should bring it up fine. You know how they reckon that fibromyalgia sufferers have calcium phosphate deposits throughout the body? And you know how they reckon nanobacteria can hide from the body's immune system by building themselves a little shell from the body's own calcium and phosphate and stuff? (And that guaifenesin demolishes the Calcium Phosphate so it can be excreted?) Well, I wonder if the same thing might be happening with the cider vinegar? See the deposits off, at the same time exposing the nanobacteria to the body's natural defense mechanisms? Possibly even killing the nanobacteria? And same process for arthritis? And if, a la Dr Jarvis, one is also adding drops of Lugol's iodine to the brew - why, even more germ-killing power. Or Magnascent (magnascent.com) Eh? Eh? R
Re: CSFibromyalgia
There's nothing more important than the food you put in your body... John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: This is somewhat idyllic though. Not many of us have access to all this and just have to have what we can get and what we can afford unfortunately. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 16:02, John E. Stevens wrote: You must be drinking organic apple cider vinegar, yes? No? That mixed with a tablespoon of raw honey is effective against arthritis, too. A well balanced organic diet (natural meats, wild fish - not farmed, and organic veggies and fruits) will help with fibromyalgia, too. One cannot continually feed pesticide ladened, and artificially fertilized (both oil based) fruits and veggies into a pure body and not expect health problems. If I wanted oil based pesticide and fertilized food, I might as well drink a tablespoon of motor oil. YUK! And meats with growth hormones, antibiotics and steroids - again, YUK! They destroy the good bacteria in the intestines - just like regular pharmaceutical antibiotics, causing digestive as well as constipative and diarrhea problems. Yeah, they may be less costly now but the price you pay with your health later will be stupendous. Someone once said: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure... John
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
Yes wink SilverPuppy do them as per the post below. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 10:13, Ode Coyote wrote: Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off , current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your money back. $75, free shipping. Can't tell you where 'cause I make them. But somebody will. Ode At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than nothing. Thanks, June
Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
GOSH!! dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:39, Ode Coyote wrote: If you have an accident in America, you get treated right away too. Then you get a bill, which a lot of people don't pay. The non payment is then spread out in the form of high hospital charges for everyone else to pay. So, we DO have socialized medicine and that's one reason why its so darned expensive.
Re: CSRe: SORe: name calling
It seems like the battle doesn't go to the brave and strong anymore, but to those who have the money to spread disinfo and control info sources. There is no entity that has more money and power to do so than the U.S. government, further enabled by a media that has almost totally abdicated their responsibility for objective, analytical reporting. Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote: = I guess the disinfo brigade struck again! Sigh... I get so sick and tired of the mind manipulation that goes on.. It seems like the battle doesn't go to the brave and strong anymore, but to those who have the money to spread disinfo and control info sources. And since critical reading and recognition of rhetoric and poor logic is required to weed out the bad stuff, a lot of people fall for it. What a mess. Annie Indi wrote: What? Did you miss the part where she said HR3200 requires the government to have direct access to your bank account? How about the part where she talked about how it would limit your choices for buying private health care? There is no room for interpretation here. I'm sorry, but that's alled LYING, and people who do that are LIARS. Linda has wronged everyone on this list with her lies. That's not an interpretation, that's a fact. I don't have to be gracious to a proven liar, anymore than I have to be gracious to muggers, junkies, or murderers. ESPECIALLY when they are so completely sociopathic they don't even have the sense to apologise. That is all. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed a CS generator
Hi Ode You talking about this one http://www.silverpuppy.com/PocketPup.html can be found here http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Sam L. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: Automatic operation..detects PPM like a meter and turns itself off , current controlled, electronic polarity reversing...satisfaction or your money back. $75, free shipping. Can't tell you where 'cause I make them. But somebody will. Ode At 11:11 AM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I'm looking for one, too, even if it's used and would be better than nothing. Thanks, June mailto:jawm1...@yahoo.comjawm1...@yahoo.com --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sandy Hollis hollis302...@yahoo.com Subject: CSNeed a CS generator To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:54 AM Hello Everyone... I cannot afford one of the CS generators off the internet and was wondering if any of you know of a really reasonably priced [good] one that I can make or buy? I have a link to the site which shows how to make them but you need several things I'm not sure about. Do any of you make and sell them? Is there any way you would sell me one? I'd greatly appreciate it. Best regards... Sandy from Texas Live and let live... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CSFibromyalgia
true, but I still stand by what I said as those who have, often have no idea how those who have not, have to manage. Its also a question of availability too. We all do what we can with the tools we have. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 18:40, John E. Stevens wrote: There's nothing more important than the food you put in your body... John
Re: CSFibromyalgia
Here you go, Dee: http://tinyurl.com/m3wuyf Chuck What are fiends for? - R. Nixon On 9/6/2009 11:00:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: I don't think that we can get that here in the UK. dee On 6 Sep 2009, at 15:57, Donna wrote: I have been using Raw Apple Cider Vinegar for several years. It has to be RAW to get the benefits of it Raw has the mother in it so to say all the sediment and goodies! I use it for my arthritis and it seems to help the inflammation. I also put it in my pets water dish it is good for them also. Donna ACS No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.80/2349 - Release Date: 09/06/09 05:51:00
Re: CSDMSO and GABA
Hi Steve, I received this response from another group I Googled GABA +molecular weight and if this is correct it is 103, which is well under the 1000 Dalton limit of DMSO. So yes it should be able tocarry it in and pass the BBB. What do you think? I don't know much about Dalton limits and molecular weights. -Ken Bagwell From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 5:00:16 PM Subject: Re: CSDMSO and GABA The molecular weight of GABA is 16500 and DMSO is able to carry mplecules of up to a molecular weight of 1. So it may not be effective with GABA. - Steve N From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Sep 04 07:00:06 2009 Subject: CSDMSO and GABA I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are informed about a variety of health topics and substances. It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum. My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream and past the blood-brain barrier. As I understand it, DMSO can pass the blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it. Because GABA is speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO help? Topically or orally is my main question? -Ken Bagwell
CSfibro
Thanks for the vinegar tip!! Low dose naltrexone is also used for fibro, polymyalgia, arthritis, etc. and very successfully.The site www.lowdosenaltrexone.org has mucho info and this stuff is really good. At the low, low dose, there is no evidence of liver damage or any other damage either, even after long term use. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSto make,coloidal silve r{{ expense }}
In a message dated 9/6/2009 9:15:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jonellis.steven...@gmail.com writes: $159.00 is not expensive... Maybe not to you ---to many of us--way expensive Esp when it can be done in a much less expensive manner with equal outcome... I'm glad you can afford it. Wish I could easily..Maybe some day my ship will come in :-) Lois
Re: CSDMSO and GABA
They are correct. I picked up the weight of a GABA compound by mistake. - Steve N From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun Sep 06 16:02:16 2009 Subject: Re: CSDMSO and GABA Hi Steve, I received this response from another group I Googled GABA +molecular weight and if this is correct it is 103, which is well under the 1000 Dalton limit of DMSO. So yes it should be able to carry it in and pass the BBB. What do you think? I don't know much about Dalton limits and molecular weights. -Ken Bagwell From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 5:00:16 PM Subject: Re: CSDMSO and GABA The molecular weight of GABA is 16500 and DMSO is able to carry mplecules of up to a molecular weight of 1. So it may not be effective with GABA. - Steve N From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Sep 04 07:00:06 2009 Subject: CSDMSO and GABA I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are informed about a variety of health topics and substances. It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum. My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream and past the blood-brain barrier. As I understand it, DMSO can pass the blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it. Because GABA is speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO help? Topically or orally is my main question? -Ken Bagwell
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CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to cs?
Just wondering what type of hydrogen peroxide is used, and how much? I've been testing out 2 drops of regular grade (aka walmart) to 2 oz of cs. Is this helpful, harmful, are there better ways to do this? Thanks! Linda
RE: CSto make,coloidal silve r{{ expense }}
No need to 'wish' anything Lois, what you've got is perfectly good enough g.
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In a message dated 9/6/2009 9:15:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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$159.00 is not expensive...
Maybe not to you ---to many of us--way expensive Esp when it can be done in a
much less expensive manner with equal outcome... I'm glad you can afford it.
Wish I could easily..Maybe some day my ship will come in :-) Lois
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RE: CS120 ppm
[Bob Beck said 3 - 5 ppm is adequate] -He also made Silver Colloids, (I can't term it EIS), using *any* water, which I believe we all now know is not the ideal. This may be a reason he stated this figure. Not saying this is true however as I have no way of knowing, just my theory as I know he used *any* water. Additional clause: In the long term that is, I myself use rainwater in the short term when I consider it warranted to get serious increase in silver content. He stated 'garlic' was your worst enemy also, I don't subscribe to that theory either. DISCLAIMER:..Speaking for myself only, taking *NOTHING* away from Dr ROBERT C BECK!! N. Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 10:52:09 -0400 Subject: Re: CS120 ppm From: jonellis.steven...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I agree. Bob Beck said 3 - 5 ppm is adequate. Others say 7 - 10 ppm is adequate. I know of only one person who used 250 ppm to wipe out the flesh eating disease - which is very serious. But it did wipe it out. That was very costly - at around $350.00 a quart... Horribly expensive. SOTA tested the shelf life of 7 - 10 ppm and found that after 5 years, it was still suspended and it tested at 7 - 10 ppm - which is excellent. Storing CSW in amber colored glass bottles is the only way to go as far I'm concerned. If stored in plastic bottles, the silver is drawn magnetically, somehow, to the interior walls of the plastic. I wouldn't store anything in plastic because of the BPH (bephenols) content and the leeching factor. I store my refrigerated food in glass, not plastic. I also store all of my Spring water (which I retrieve from a pure local Spring) in gallon glass jugs. I wouldn't drink tap water if I was paid thousands to do so. And I filter my shower water - I don't want chlorine touching my precious body in any shape, way or form. It's a scientifically known cancer causer and it scratches (tears) little scars in the veins and arteries that then need cholesterol to patch them - thus causing cholesterol blockages to build-up. YUK! Of course I don't want any fluoride or the other 138 some odd contaminants in tap water touching my precious temple (body) either. Fluoride is another well known and scientifically proven cancer causer. I don't use a microwave because it changes the molecular structure of anything that is nuked in it. In fact, I won't allow a microwave oven in the house. Same thing with cell phones - the EMF's are too dangerous to the brain. There are many M.D.'s that think there will be a brain cancer epidemic in the USA because of overusing cell phones - especially amongst the youngsters. Canada has already warned their populace of the dangers of cell phones, but the USA is too greedy to do so. In good health. John On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Paul Bond pmb...@gmail.com wrote: I think it’s much safer (and effective) to stick to around 10ppm or less, and if necessary then drink more. There’s only so much that can stay in suspension while keeping particles small, and my understanding is 10ppm is comfortably under that kind of threshold. From: felipe lopez [mailto:felipelopezpas...@hotmail.com] Sent: 06 September 2009 10:10 To: chat definitivo de plata coloidal Subject: CS120 ppm Hello friends,somebody knows if is dangerous to take colloidal silver in 120ppm,because the normal is between 10ppm. Thanks. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4400 (20090906) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
Re: CSFibromyalgia - and Cider Vinegar and arthritis.
I've heard good things about enzymes from another FM friend. For myself, I have noticed that since starting Magnascent, all pains have decreased and I have a lot more energy. (Currently helping son move house; recently returned from overseas trip involving constant walking and moving every 2 or 3 days etc etc) Compared to a year ago - big difference. Re ACV - in my 20s and 30s used to find that taking ACV would remove the pain in my knees that developed when I drank too much tea! I still believe in it, but in my enthusiasm I made my honey and CV drink too strong, and developed an aversion to the smell, and although I always have a bottle in the house, it tends to last a long time. R I've been reading similar stuff but this time it is bacteria/viruses/fungii wrapping themselves in protein and fooling the immune system. This is why I am taking proteolytic enzymes. I am going to Google cider vinegar though because then I can attack the little b..ger on all sides! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to cs?
Good question. Experimenting on your own is the best way to find out how much. My experience has been if I use too much H2O2 I get an undesirable and cloudy result. I currently use two drops (USP) per 64oz. I add it to a fresh batch, shake it, and let it set for 24hrs before using it. Hope this helps. Scott With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27 --- On Sun, 9/6/09, scvpropert...@aol.com scvpropert...@aol.com wrote: From: scvpropert...@aol.com scvpropert...@aol.com Subject: CSAdding hydrogen peroxide to cs? To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 4:00 PM Just wondering what type of hydrogen peroxide is used, and how much? I've been testing out 2 drops of regular grade (aka walmart) to 2 oz of cs. Is this helpful, harmful, are there better ways to do this? Thanks! Linda
Re: CSFibromyalgia
It can happen. I made an herbal lotion remedy several years ago and it took the arthritis out of my left hip. It has been gone for over 2 years now. Gayla Bob and Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, CA - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 10:34 AM Subject: Re: CSFibromyalgia Unfortunately, that pain free week could be (or by now) have been just a week of remission. My personal testimonial is that I have tried MANY cures for fibromyalgia and chronic joint pain, so far every single one turned out to be just another short remission. So for a claim like that to impress me, I'd have to see an update a year later saying the person has remained pain free for at least a whole year. A week isn't any proof at all to me, because I've been pain free for a week at a time many times, but it never lasts and whatever I thought was the cause of the remission never proved out long term. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFibromyalgia
Gayla Roberts wrote: It can happen. I made an herbal lotion remedy several years ago and it took the arthritis out of my left hip. It has been gone for over 2 years now. Oh, I know it can happen, but one week is not long enough to claim a cure of anything. 2 years though, that is impressive! Care to share what your herbal lotion was made of? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
Thora, Great post... Bravo! Bob - Original Message - From: Thora Rasmusen (Home) mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: RE: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT) I live in a country with universal health care, and it's just as corrupt as the US. The problem with health care is not insurance or universal health care, or anything like that. It's the fact that main stream medicine completely ignores the fact that what we eat causes us to be sick. The promotion of junk food and garbage food is beyond any movement to promote healthy food. The craziness in our modern day system is all the insane things they do to our food, with pesticides, herbicides, food additives, chemicals in the water. It is everywhere, and so very few people have any knowledge of the damage these things do. So very few people have any idea of what healthy food is. Yesterday, I watched some one who had a blasting head ache all day sit down and eat an apple turnover, made with premixed pastry, premixed apple filling, premixed sugar topping, and a chocolate milk, and she truly thought it would make her feel better. What passes for food is disgusting, and what passes for restaurants is disgusting. I cringe every time I see the premade restaurant food delivery truck pull up to a restaurant. No one has any idea what whole food is, or what home made means. I'd love to see future food charts include a section called non-food to include things like sugar, white flour, etc. so that people begin to understand that there are things you should never eat. There are extremely few people out there sharing with us the damage that this stuff does, and those who do are ridiculed beyond belief. There is too much money to be made in processing food, and they have the knowledge to hire marketers, add people and the like. There is no money to be made in whole food, etc. Our society will need to make some sort of shift to get to the point where it will promote something that will make a huge portion of society poorer money wise so that all can be healthy. I have no idea what that shift will be. But I sure do know that all those around me think I'm a fruit cake with my eat natural attitude. Very few would tolerate that, and would just go back to following the crowd, so as to not make waves. Our society does not teach bucking the system at all. We're taught to follow, listen to the experts, and don't question. We are certainly not taught to question our medical system, that's taboo. So, if you're interested in health, do not listen to any expert, do your own research, and it will take a massive commitment of time. This knowledge isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. Remember, no oen makes a dime if you get well. No one. Only you are better off. No one is put in a stronger position of control if you are well. No one. Only you are stronger. No government agency or insurance company is better off if you are well, the reason for their existence will disappear if you are well, they will not be needed to take care of you, they will not be needed to run your life if your are well. You can then run your own life. Remember, only you benefit if you are well. I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it. Period. Thora -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLife Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT) If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst- making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession. they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They try to keep it all, as much as possible. The Truth that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on reality- it IS happening already. To have control is to take responsibility for one's health and not to hand it over to HMO's, MD's or anyone. I would like to spend my health care money the way I want to- not the way the HMO thinks I should spend it. I can do that now if I want to be uninsured. On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:42 AM, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote: I will keep sounding the alarm, anyone over the age of 40 needs to be concerned about this. Karen Conrad http://www.life-enhancement.com/article_template.asp?ID=2138 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:
