Re: CSShingles
Suan Zao Ren Tang, Chinese herbal formula. On 2/8/2011 5:47 PM, Trem wrote: Worked for me many years ago. Never came back. I drink it daily. No other infections either. Trem - Original Message - *From:* Tel Tofflemire mailto:telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:42 PM *Subject:* Re: CSShingles *Colloidal Silver* sprayed on affected area works 99 % of the time. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. *From:* Todd Paddock tr...@hotmail.com mailto:tr...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, February 8, 2011 11:12:51 AM *Subject:* CSShingles I belive I have seen something on here before reguarding shingles. Is CS effective against shingles and how much would you dose for pain relief. Thanks Todd Paddock
Re: CSnew..Hello
Leanne I killed Lyme with CS after having it for 40+ years and never had a problem with taking as much as a quart a day, usually about two ounces for long term use. I never thought the teaspoon thing would do a thing. As for the swelling, salt causes water retention and you might check your food packaging ingredient list and make sure there is no Soy in it. Soy suppresses your Thyroid and causes a number of illnesses including Cancer. Research on Dangers of Soyhttp://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm Dave On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote: HI my name is Leanne; Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal. PLease, any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid?? I was feeling ok..my son seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks. Leanne
Re: CSShingles
Not correct. All bottled water must be exposed to ozone when bottling, but no chlorine. Marshall On 2/8/2011 9:57 PM, Bob Banever wrote: Trem, I was just informed that ALL bottled water (even distilled) must contain chlorine as per FDA. Do you know anything about this? Bob - Original Message - *From:* Trem mailto:t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:47 PM *Subject:* Re: CSShingles Worked for me many years ago. Never came back. I drink it daily. No other infections either. Trem - Original Message - *From:* Tel Tofflemire mailto:telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:42 PM *Subject:* Re: CSShingles *Colloidal Silver* sprayed on affected area works 99 % of the time. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. *From:* Todd Paddock tr...@hotmail.com mailto:tr...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, February 8, 2011 11:12:51 AM *Subject:* CSShingles I belive I have seen something on here before reguarding shingles. Is CS effective against shingles and how much would you dose for pain relief. Thanks Todd Paddock
Re: CSDMSO and nebulized CS
I once got a drop of 99.7% DMSO on the top of a plastic scale and it ate it, I'd say be careful what you use. The bottle the DMSO came in is HDPE #2 larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew..Hello
Hi Leanne, This CS site is a good one for any Lymie, but you might also want to get up to speed with these two other sites to expand your options and info. Lots of caring, experienced people with Lyme who are getting well will help you find the right path for your particular LymeCo. . lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com lyme_and_r...@yahoogroups.com Lymestrategies will be particularly helpful if you're trying anything with salt. It's important to use the right salt, and best to do it in conjunction with vitamin C, carefully following the guidelines of ramping up very slowly, drinking lots of good water, eating properly, and DETOXING the resulting die-off. Healing Lyme is a balancing act, and I've benefited greatly from these sites to keep a steady, even keel on genuine recovery. If you do generic salt without this information, you can very well have concerns about kidney, liver, adrenals. Sometimes, edema is the body's response to dehydration. I know that feels counter-intuitive, but when it's not getting enough fluids, it hoards what it has. Please check out these other two sites to add what you already know from this one, for a safe, informed course of protocols. Be well, Léna On Feb 9, 2011, at 1:49 AM, K M wrote: HI my name is Leanne; Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal. PLease, any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid?? I was feeling ok..my son seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks. Leanne
Re: CSShingles
My son worked in a local bottling plant which supplied bottled water to local
chain stores. The same water was put in bottles with different labels .
Distilled water, spring water , drinking water. All the water was from the
same source and it was not exposed to ozone but had chlorine added. Employees
were told not to drink any the water off the line because there was to much
chlorine. There was water in the refrigerator that was suitable to drink.
--- On Wed, 2/9/11, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
Subject: Re: CSShingles
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:04 AM
Not correct. All bottled water must be exposed to ozone when bottling, but no
chlorine.
Marshall
On 2/8/2011 9:57 PM, Bob Banever wrote:
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Trem,
I was just informed that ALL bottled water (even distilled) must contain
chlorine as per FDA. Do you know anything about this?
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Trem
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: CSShingles
Worked for me many years ago. Never came back. I drink it daily. No other
infections either.
Trem
- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: CSShingles
Colloidal Silver sprayed on affected area works 99 % of the time.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
From: Todd Paddock tr...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 11:12:51 AM
Subject: CSShingles
I belive I have seen something on here before reguarding shingles. Is CS
effective against shingles and how much would you dose for pain relief.
Thanks
Todd Paddock
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Re: CSShingles
There are plenty of unethical people and unethical business practices. Sounds like that was one of them. Dan On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote: My son worked in a local bottling plant which supplied bottled water to local chain stores. The same water was put in bottles with different labels . Distilled water, spring water , drinking water. All the water was from the same source and it was not exposed to ozone but had chlorine added. Employees were told not to drink any the water off the line because there was to much chlorine. There was water in the refrigerator that was suitable to drink. --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com* wrote: From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Subject: Re: CSShingles To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:04 AM Not correct. All bottled water must be exposed to ozone when bottling, but no chlorine. Marshall On 2/8/2011 9:57 PM, Bob Banever wrote: Trem, I was just informed that ALL bottled water (even distilled) must contain chlorine as per FDA. Do you know anything about this? Bob - Original Message - *From:* Tremhttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=t...@silvergen.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:47 PM *Subject:* Re: CSShingles Worked for me many years ago. Never came back. I drink it daily. No other infections either. Trem - Original Message - *From:* Tel Tofflemirehttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=telt...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 08, 2011 3:42 PM *Subject:* Re: CSShingles *Colloidal Silver* sprayed on affected area works 99 % of the time. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. -- *From:* Todd Paddock tr...@hotmail.comhttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tr...@hotmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc1613.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tue, February 8, 2011 11:12:51 AM *Subject:* CSShingles I belive I have seen something on here before reguarding shingles. Is CS effective against shingles and how much would you dose for pain relief. Thanks Todd Paddock -- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travelhttp://travel.yahoo.com/hotelsearchpage;_ylc=X3oDMTFtaTIzNXVjBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BF9zAzI3MTk0ODEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA21haWx0YWdsaW5lBHNsawNxMS0wNw--to find your fit.
RE: CSnew..Hello
Dave: How much did you use a day 2 ounces did you say??tHanks.. Leanne Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:56:41 -0800 Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello From: davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Leanne I killed Lyme with CS after having it for 40+ years and never had a problem with taking as much as a quart a day, usually about two ounces for long term use. I never thought the teaspoon thing would do a thing. As for the swelling, salt causes water retention and you might check your food packaging ingredient list and make sure there is no Soy in it. Soy suppresses your Thyroid and causes a number of illnesses including Cancer. Research on Dangers of Soy Dave On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote: HI my name is Leanne; Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal. PLease, any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid?? I was feeling ok..my son seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks. Leanne
Re: CSnew..Hello
Leanne I just poured a small glass about half full--somewhere between 2 and 4 oz. sometimes 6. When I first started I drank two pint bottles that I bought (chuged) then my first generator arrived and I made a Gallon and took about 4 ounces every waking twenty minutes for three days and that took care of the Lyme. Then I went on the maintenance dose above for ten years and had not another episode contributory to Lyme. A good deal of that time I drank Cs for water and eventually started to get a little gray in the face.(argeria) Now I just mix 50/50 with Listerine and use as mouthwash and gargle. Never get any respiratory afflictions such as colds or flu. Dave On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:33 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote: Dave: How much did you use a day 2 ounces did you say??tHanks.. Leanne -- Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 06:56:41 -0800 Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello From: davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Leanne I killed Lyme with CS after having it for 40+ years and never had a problem with taking as much as a quart a day, usually about two ounces for long term use. I never thought the teaspoon thing would do a thing. As for the swelling, salt causes water retention and you might check your food packaging ingredient list and make sure there is no Soy in it. Soy suppresses your Thyroid and causes a number of illnesses including Cancer. Research on Dangers of Soy Dave On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:49 PM, K M leemo...@hotmail.com wrote: HI my name is Leanne; Recently started taking ICS for LYme for myself and son..seemed to be going real well..till I had a body puff reaction at 5 tsp/4 times a day..over 3 week period of increasing. ..off now 2 weeks or so..puff still present in torso and looks like edema around sock on leg..worse in eve , and if injest salt? note I am pretty thin so this is odd for me...wondering if it is toxic hard to process, probs processing with kidney, liver or adrenal. PLease, any history of weight gain, same issues, detox what to do with keeping body coping with toxins, do Lyme give off fluid?? I was feeling ok..my son seemed to be doing great..although now either gained weight or has same issue as me. in such a short period of time..also our metabolism has slowed to a halt...again I was always fast metabolism..any help appreciated...not sure where else to turn..I was hopeful this was a viable tratment..but with what happen..I need some explanation and assist..thanks. Leanne
CSgluten/celiac intolerance
Can anyone shed some light on gluten intolerance/celiac problems snook -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSgluten/celiac intolerance
Heather Snook wrote: Can anyone shed some light on gluten intolerance/celiac problems = There are tons of books out on it. There's also a great egroup. Join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GFCFNN/ Nenah
Re: CSFOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978
Yes please - if still possible! highfie...@internode.on.net Many thanks Jane - Original Message - From: Pam Wanveer To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 2:23 AM Subject: Re: CSFOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978 Hi Nenah, I would also like a copy of the article Our Mightiest Germ Fighter Thank you and Cheers, Pam woods...@hers.com Begin forwarded message: From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp Date: December 13, 2010 10:17:40 PM EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978 I'd also appreciate one. On 2010/12/14, at 12:07, aKa Jhon wrote: Nenah, Please add me to your list ... Thanks for your help.. majyo...@yahoo.com FOUND: Our Mightiest Germ Fighter, Science Digest March 1978 My librarian friend secured a scan of the original for me of “Our Mightiest Germ Fighter” from Science Digest, March 1978. If anyone wants a copy as a pdf file, email me and I’ll send it to you. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD electromedicine specialist and author The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009) The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) www.nenahsylver.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3314 - Release Date: 12/13/10 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3314 - Release Date: 12/13/10 19:34:00
RE: CSThat's better. Was...new..Hello
Hi Dave,
Don't mind me hyjacking the Lyme thing for a quick personal comment.
Now THAT was worthwhile, and USEFUL, information, very good.
The only thing that's missing is the perported ppm of the two bottles you
purchased? And maybe the colour of solution too?
And praps the ppm of the stuff you were making with your machine? And the
colour of that as well?
Don't mind me picking the bones out of what you said, just using it for
personal reasons and informative value.
And that 'maintenance' dose would have been that 2-4-6ozs...Yes/No?
And if you were consuming it immediately after you produced it - and the rest
over the next 3 days - then you would have consumed predominantly positively
charged silver ions would you not? as the solution was stabilising over the
following days {and praps had *still* had not reached a point of stability,
increasing the time span of + charged ion intake}. THAT is part of the
'useful' information for me.
P.S. And I too support that notion of a 'couple of teaspoons' not being worth
a dollop of goat poop, for the treatment of something worthy of attack on a
larger scale g.
N.
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:50:38 -0800
Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Leanne
I just poured a small glass about half full--somewhere between 2 and 4 oz.
sometimes 6.
When I first started I drank two pint bottles that I bought (chuged) then my
first generator arrived and I made a Gallon and took about 4 ounces every
waking twenty minutes for three days and that took care of the Lyme. Then I
went on the maintenance dose above for ten years and had not another episode
contributory to Lyme. A good deal of that time I drank Cs for water and
eventually started to get a little gray in the face.(argeria) Dave
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46
Dave, Did you get rid of the gray color on your face? How long did it take you to get rid of it? What did use? Melly --- On Wed, 2/9/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:06 PM
Re: CSThat's better. Was...new..Hello
Neville
Amazingly the two bottles are still on my shelf. It says CS Pro Systems,
HVAC colloidal silver 10-12 ppm.
They are brown bottles but the contents I can't attest to as I drank it
straight from the bottle.
The solution I made was closer to 22 ppm according to the manufacturer of
the machine,
Colloid Master 777 on a setting of 9, Actually they said 7 would make 20
ppm.
I was under the impression that a positive charge was what I was involved
with but have nothing to substantiate that. I was more into the results than
worrying about the mechanics of the treatment.
The maintenance dose was what ever I felt like doing, if I was thirsty I
might drink a quart to satiate my thirst, after all it was nothing but water
with a little bit of silver in it, not some drug.
Hope this shows you how scientificly I went about it.
Dave
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi Dave,
Don't mind me hyjacking the Lyme thing for a quick personal comment.
Now THAT was worthwhile, and USEFUL, information, very good.
The only thing that's missing is the perported ppm of the two bottles you
purchased? And maybe the colour of solution too?
And praps the ppm of the stuff you were making with your machine? And the
colour of that as well?
Don't mind me picking the bones out of what you said, just using it for
personal reasons and informative value.
And that 'maintenance' dose would have been that 2-4-6ozs...Yes/No?
And if you were consuming it immediately after you produced it - and the
rest over the next 3 days - then you would have consumed predominantly
positively charged silver ions would you not? as the solution was
stabilising over the following days {and praps had *still* had not reached a
point of stability, increasing the time span of + charged ion intake}. THAT
is part of the 'useful' information for me.
P.S. And I too support that notion of a 'couple of teaspoons' not being
worth a dollop of goat poop, for the treatment of something worthy of attack
on a larger scale g.
N.
--
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:50:38 -0800
Subject: Re: CSnew..Hello
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Leanne
I just poured a small glass about half full--somewhere between 2 and 4 oz.
sometimes 6.
When I first started I drank two pint bottles that I bought (chuged) then
my first generator arrived and I made a Gallon and took about 4 ounces every
waking twenty minutes for three days and that took care of the Lyme. Then I
went on the maintenance dose above for ten years and had not another episode
contributory to Lyme. A good deal of that time I drank Cs for water and
eventually started to get a little gray in the face.(argeria) Dave
--
Re: CSgluten/celiac intolerance
If you are gluten intolerant and eat gluten you can destroy your small intestine and possibly cause Hashimoto's thyroiditis. PT From: Heather Snook hlsnoo...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, February 9, 2011 6:59:23 PM Subject: CSgluten/celiac intolerance Can anyone shed some light on gluten intolerance/celiac problems snook -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46
Melly I tried the protocols that were going around at that time. A very knowledgeable list member named Jason Had a sure fire way with Selenium and Vit-E. It did nothing for me. The only way I have seen any lightening of the skin was when I tore some off and after healing there was a spot with normal color. I don't think it is important enough to remove my skin to rid me of it, actually It gives me a distinction, like showing my perfect health for a 75 year old. Dave On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote: Dave, Did you get rid of the gray color on your face? How long did it take you to get rid of it? What did use? Melly --- On *Wed, 2/9/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com* wrote: From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2011 #46 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011, 10:06 PM
RE: CSThat's better. Was...new..Hello
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:10:01 -0800 Subject: Re: CSThat's better. Was...new..Hello From: davedar...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Neville Amazingly the two bottles are still on my shelf. It says CS Pro Systems, HVAC colloidal silver 10-12 ppm. They are brown bottles but the contents I can't attest to as I drank it straight from the bottle. # grin Pity, nevermind. However, it may negate my theory on '+ charged ions' in your case. Being produced by HVAC it probly was more 'colloidal/particulate'..? From info I've read, HVAC produced stuff is less ionic and more colloidal or particulate in nature. Nevertheless, the stuff you produced yourself would still fit. The solution I made was closer to 22 ppm according to the manufacturer of the machine, Colloid Master 777 on a setting of 9, Actually they said 7 would make 20 ppm. #Yep, no worries, unfortunately I can't comment on shop bought machines, cos I don't have one g, but what you made sounds good to me. I was under the impression that a positive charge was what I was involved with but have nothing to substantiate that. I was more into the results than worrying about the mechanics of the treatment. #THIS was the bit I was interested in hearing about! The maintenance dose was what ever I felt like doing, if I was thirsty I might drink a quart to satiate my thirst, after all it was nothing but water with a little bit of silver in it, not some drug. Hope this shows you how scientificly I went about it. #Perfect science to me, logical and rational from personal experience and observation, not something that was copied and pasted, or just repeated from the public domain. All good to me Dave. Thanks. N. Dave
