Re: CSWet weight?
How confident are you of your measurements? Basic chemistry says that
water with silver in it should have a density which is higher, not lower
than distilled water. However there have been a number of reports that
nanosilver structures water, sort of like homeopathy. If that is the
case, then any restructuring, or crystalization of the water would be
expected to have an effect on the density. If your measurements are
indeed correct, this may be confirmation of those reports.
Marshall
On 2/24/2011 5:38 PM, Neville Munn wrote:
Could someone kindly help me out here?
I've been playing around with some small jewellers scales {0.001g up
to 10g} test weighing some EIS and found I have already observed one
EIS solution that actually weighs *less* than plain DW...???
How can this be so?
Or is this where Density or Specific Gravity of silver comes in, which
I believe is 10.5 {and this is probly SG of powdered silver as well,
not the same form of silver that we produce using electrolysis?} Or
perhaps it indicates different characteristics of ions and/or atomic
ion clusters in solution.
If this is where 'mole' weight comes in then I'll just stick those
scales back in the cupboard again and won't bother going any further
cos that's *well* over my capacity of chemistry/physics understanding.
I'm aware this is a bit of a cowboy method of measuring, and probly
won't be 100% accurate, but the scales DO indicate something with a
couple of different solutions I've played around with, which means
they certainly appear to be good enough for my exercise.
N.
Re: CSnebulized allicin
From link campaign*** below. On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:23 PM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote: FYI, some ND is doing this: http://campaignfortruth.com/Eclub/181207/CTM-%20allicin2.htm ~David http://scientificliving.net/ Of course, the UA study only gives us an insight into the effects of properly prepared fresh garlic. But according to Simon Mills and Kerry Bone in their textbook on botanical medicine, *Principles and Practice of Phytotherapy,* when garlic is dried in powered form at low temperatures, the garlic enzyme allinase and the active compound alliin remain intact, converting to allicin in the digestive tract, which is the same chemical chain of events that follows the crushing of a garlic clove. Rachael Linkie Health Sciences Institute Does anyone here know how to get instruction/information about how to do the above? How do you powder fresh garlic? Jim
RE: CSWet weight?
Hello Neville,
I think you are seeing inaccuracies in your measurements, and/or some drift
in the scale.
I think you may need a pretty concentrated solution to measure the
difference in weight in a small sample. Keep in mind that a 1%
concentration is 1 PPM. If you were able to measure 0.001g at 5000 g
total, and had a highly concentrated sample, you may be able to see a
difference in weight.
Tom
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWet weight?
Could someone kindly help me out here?
I've been playing around with some small jewellers scales {0.001g up to 10g}
test weighing some EIS and found I have already observed one EIS solution
that actually weighs *less* than plain DW...???
How can this be so?
Or is this where Density or Specific Gravity of silver comes in, which I
believe is 10.5 {and this is probly SG of powdered silver as well, not the
same form of silver that we produce using electrolysis?} Or perhaps it
indicates different characteristics of ions and/or atomic ion clusters in
solution.
If this is where 'mole' weight comes in then I'll just stick those scales
back in the cupboard again and won't bother going any further cos that's
*well* over my capacity of chemistry/physics understanding.
I'm aware this is a bit of a cowboy method of measuring, and probly won't be
100% accurate, but the scales DO indicate something with a couple of
different solutions I've played around with, which means they certainly
appear to be good enough for my exercise.
N.
RE: CSWet weight?
I'm fairly confident the measurements are right. I went through the same
exercise this morning and although measurements are different today from
yesterday the scales DO pick up differences in weight, of that I have no doubt.
However, I suspect this is not a successful way of doing things due to several
factors just off the top of my head:
a) Temperature of medicine cup may increase with manual handling, which in turn
will heat water/solution contained within {can only afford to do the procedure
once}?
b) Although temperature of EIS is the same today as yesterday the plain DW may
not be? {failed to measure plain DW temperature and used DW temp from yesterday}
c) Water temperature may rise during the time measurements are taken. {again,
manual handling of cup, containers, syringe and day temp rising praps}
d) There may be some weight differences between Ag ions and ion cluster
characteristics which may be influencing results? *this is probly an unknown*
e) I have been vortexing the water prior to production in recent batches.
Would now need to make a few batches without vortexing the water and see what
difference there is...if any? {probly won't bother as I don't think my weighing
exercise was of any use}.
Although the scales do pick up differences in weight I don't believe this
method is at all useful due to aforesaid factors. I say this because as an
example, the medicine cup weighs more today than yesterday {room temperature
may be heating things a tad?}. Just too many external influences and variables
that can affect results to be of any practical use.
The idea seemed good in principal, but I don't think it works in practice,
nevermind, if one never never goes one never never knows. If nothing else it's
made me question any possible differences there may be between weight
characteristics of Ag ions in solution and ion clusters {particles} in
solution...if any?
N.
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:20:53 -0500
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWet weight?
How confident are you of your measurements? Basic chemistry says that water
with silver in it should have a density which is higher, not lower than
distilled water. However there have been a number of reports that nanosilver
structures water, sort of like homeopathy. If that is the case, then any
restructuring, or crystalization of the water would be expected to have an
effect on the density. If your measurements are indeed correct, this may be
confirmation of those reports.
Marshall
RE: CSWet weight?
Hi Tom,
As I just said to Marshall, I do believe the scales pick up on weight
differences, but due to those 'inaccuracy' factors I stated {and probly many
more?} I don't think the exercise was of any real value. Gave me something to
play around with and kept me out of mischief for a while if nothing else g.
N.
From: po...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSWet weight?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:29:32 -0800
Hello Neville,
I think you are seeing inaccuracies in your measurements, and/or some drift in
the scale.
I think you may need a pretty concentrated solution to measure the difference
in weight in a small sample. Keep in mind that a 1% concentration is 1
PPM. If you were able to measure 0.001g at 5000 g total, and had a highly
concentrated sample, you may be able to see a difference in weight.
Tom
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 2:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWet weight?
Could someone kindly help me out here?
I've been playing around with some small jewellers scales {0.001g up to 10g}
test weighing some EIS and found I have already observed one EIS solution that
actually weighs *less* than plain DW...???
How can this be so?
Or is this where Density or Specific Gravity of silver comes in, which I
believe is 10.5 {and this is probly SG of powdered silver as well, not the same
form of silver that we produce using electrolysis?} Or perhaps it indicates
different characteristics of ions and/or atomic ion clusters in solution.
If this is where 'mole' weight comes in then I'll just stick those scales back
in the cupboard again and won't bother going any further cos that's *well* over
my capacity of chemistry/physics understanding.
I'm aware this is a bit of a cowboy method of measuring, and probly won't be
100% accurate, but the scales DO indicate something with a couple of different
solutions I've played around with, which means they certainly appear to be good
enough for my exercise.
N.
