Re: CS>

[Rick]

Thank you Pal Joey for this. I am going to repost it. I like the idea that
Medical Professionals are sharing with each other what happened to them.
Makes a great news alternative view from inside the shot!

Thanks again!


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 1:07 PM pal joey  wrote:

> Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene
> therapy aka "vaccine "
> https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events
>
>

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Douglas Haack stop passing on fake news. Covid is real, it's killed over 4
million people and you cause more to die by passing on crap like this.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 8:38 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

> "Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common
> Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a
> bit more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> *I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE
>> Covid Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . . *
>>
>> *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . .
>> .
>>
>> 
>> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT
>> a virus" . . . .
>> “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist
>> and have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in
>> S. California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's
>> postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
>>
>>
>> https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8
>>
>

CS>Unsubscribe

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Re: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .

[jenny goodhealth]

 Yes, I can’t agree more.  Well said.  I put her replies in the spam without 
reading them.  Enough is enough.  Everyone in this group deserves respect and 
decent treatment.  We are here to help and support each other...  
Blessings to everyone.  


On Friday, July 30, 2021, 10:11:45 AM PDT, Linda Ellis  
wrote:  
 
 Thanks for the great description, Douglas!  I have been diligently marking 
every one of her emails as SPAM, but they are still stubbornly showing up.  

Hey, Douglas - since you've been around since 1997, do you remember about ten 
years ago there was a woman who was behaving remarkably similar to this one - 
rude, cantankerous, contrary.  Not contributing one iota to furthering 
discussions about the goals of this group which, as I understand it, primarily 
revolve around experimenting with options for addressing health issues that do 
not involve the pharmaceutical industry.

I recall that she went on a rampage, attacking me, personally.  I no longer 
recall what set her off, but the woman was just awful.  I stayed away from the 
list for a couple of days (dishwasher broke - finding, buying and installing 
the new one took precedence ;-)), to find that she had really gone off the 
rails in my absence, and after several warnings, the list moderator kicked her 
out of the group.

Recently, our new Troll mentioned she has been here for about ten 
years...Is it possible this is the same person under a different moniker?  
She's sure behaving a lot like that last one.  




From: "Douglas Haack" 
Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2021 2:06 am
To: "Silver-List" 
Subject: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .
 . . . Now on anther matter . . . Firstly let me remind you of the old gangster 
term: a "Gangster's Moll",   the Silver list:  . . . .  
has a virulent TROLL MOLL, who continuously, criticises and postulates and 
CENSORS against all who have an anti-vax opinion/leaning  . . . although this a 
list of "Colloidal Silver" users/makers/adherents . . . where I've been a 
member since 1997 with contributions . . .  A gangsters Moll, a derogatory term 
not popular in today's PC re-structured world of Marxist Woke shenanigans -- 
the gangster's woman/girl/lover/friend -- assuming the gangster is male and not 
a homosexual and the Moll too being hetrosexual -- well, you know, etc . . . 
there must also be an homosexual version . . . .  Can I introduce a new but 
current fitting cultural term, the "TROLL Moll" of which the site is plagued . 
. . actually traditionally a feminine term, although we are free to use it for 
both genders -- as the male and female gender introduced to us in in our early 
life of moral guidance into Christian/Bible culture -- being now torn from us 
thru the forced inoculation of genderless pronouns, into a new "Borg-like" 
existence . . . or to that effect . . .  My efforts so far may have been of no 
value or assistance, so here is my angle "how to cope" with TROLLS" again" and 
again and again . . . many of you all are so patient saints in fact . . .  this 
Troll person can't invade my mail space at all . . . .  Drop TROLLS into SPAM 
-- they then won't appear again on your email inbox . Simply tick the TROLL 
email and then TICK on SPAM icon at top of page . .    Try it  It works . . 
. .  EASY PEASY . . . . in SILvation,  dh 
    

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Neville Munn]

Hmmm, Delte...Now! Done.


From: Cyndiann Phillips 
Sent: Saturday, 31 July 2021 12:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS 
-- CDC NON!!

Neville, it mutated faster because of people spreading it so fast and that 
happens when you don't think it's real, when you don't wear masks, when you 
don't stay away from people and when you don't get the vaccine.

I'm not provax in any sense of the word. This is the first shot I've gotten in 
20+ years and with good reason. My chances of living increased greatly when I 
took the vaccine. There is no doubt about that. It got as close as right in my 
face when my 86 year old neighbor caught it and I went over his house to give 
him money I made for him by selling his pecans from his tree. He was obviously 
sick at the time, coughing and sneezing and that was the last time I saw him.

Christmas time, he spent his last one on a ventilator and died right after.

If you don't do what it takes to stop the spread you are being selfish, it's 
not about rights. It's about doing what is right to stop killing and maiming 
people. Long haulers are real.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:11 AM Neville Munn 
mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, you're right.  That's where this COVID-19 name came from some brainchild, 
the Coronavirus, i.e. 'CO' refers to CORONA, 'VI' refers to virus, 'D' refers 
to Disease, and '19' is the year it was named.  I remember when this shyte 
first started they called it 'NOVEL', but NOVEL means new, that's why they had 
to stop calling it NOVEL.  There's the giveaway, it's not new, it was the stock 
standard C'rona virus, but bioengineered, example for one, MERS, engineered and 
able to infect humans, like the Avian Flu, the Swine Flu etc, it's been 
spliced, hence covid19.  Like this "Delta" bs variant "they" go on about, 
variant is doublespeak, it just means it's mutated, as it does every year, or 
probably every second day for all I know, and I don't care.

N.


From: Ode Coyote mailto:silverpuppy1...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 10:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>>
Subject: Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS 
-- CDC NON!!

"Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common Corona 
variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a bit more 
risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
mailto:douglasha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid Virus 
DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . .

BANNED from YOUTUBE Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .


/.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a 
virus" . . . .
“I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and have 
tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S. 
California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's postulates 
and observation under a SEM (scanning


https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8

Re: CS>

[Deborah Gerard]

 
https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/29/covid-rampant-among-fully-vaccinated-sailors-on-britains-new-aircraft-carrier/


On Friday, July 30, 2021, 01:07:39 PM EDT, pal joey  
wrote:  
 
 Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene therapy 
aka "vaccine "     
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events
   

Re: CS>

[Deborah Gerard]

 CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts covid-19 
outbreak were vaccinated


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On Friday, July 30, 2021, 01:07:39 PM EDT, pal joey  
wrote:  
 
 Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene therapy 
aka "vaccine "     
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events
   

CS>

[pal joey]

Another cure for covid. Some background: I took harvoni 7 years ago and
cured hepatitis c . Back then, pharma was charging $80,000 (yes, thats
correct) to insurance companies and doctors, although it was known you
could get it in Egypt for $900. There were no side effects, that I was
aware of.  Now its $40 I just copied this
from medscape.  *COVID-19 news and guidance in Medscape's * *Coronavirus
Resource Center.* 

An antiviral drug combination used to treat hepatitis
 C and an
anti-protozoal drug may also work against SARS-CoV-2, researchers say.

Sofosbuvir 
/ledipasvir
(Harvoni) and nitazoxanide
 (Alinia)
both appeared to clear SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19 in a
preliminary trial, said Mohammed Medhat, lecturer in the department of
gastroenterology and tropical medicine at Assiut University Hospitals in
Assiut, Egypt.

Sofosbuvir/ledipasvir was particularly efficacious, said Medhat, who
reported the results at the International Liver Congress 2021.

"This is a very important result," he told *Medscape Medical News*. "If you
start this drug early, you can eliminate the virus easily without
complication and avoid mortality and also avoid spreading of the disease."

While the treatments for COVID-19 have improved since the pandemic began
and vaccines have slowed its spread in some countries, existing therapies,
including the antiviral drug remdesivir (Veklury), fall far short of a cure.

Developing new drugs takes a long time because their pharmacokinetics must
be analyzed, and safety as well as efficacy tested in large trials, Medhat
pointed out.

"Trying to use available and safe and effective drugs to treat this new
disease is the fastest way," he said.
Repositioning Drugs as Possible Treatment for COVID-19

SARS-CoV-2 shares similarities to the hepatitis C virus
 in the way it
replicates, Medhat said. Molecular docking studies, which use computation
to find ligands that bind to proteins, suggested that both
sofosbuvir/ledipasvir and nitazoxanide might block key proteins in
SARS-CoV-2.

Sofosbuvir/ledipasvir was developed to treat hepatitis C. Nitazoxanide is
currently used to treat protozoal infections but has shown broad-spectrum
antiviral properties. It has been investigated as a treatment for Middle
East respiratory syndrome (MERS) and influenza
 as well as
hepatitis C, Medhat said.

Since both are manufactured in Egypt and relatively inexpensive, Medhat and
his colleagues investigated them as a possible treatment for patients with
COVID-19. Sofosbuvir/ledipasvir costs about $40, and nitazoxanide costs
about $10 for 14 days of treatment.

They randomly divided 190 patients with mild and moderate COVID-19
infections into three groups. All three groups received standard care. One
group also received sofosbuvir/ledipasvir, and another group also received
nitazoxanide.

The researchers used reverse-transcriptase polymerase chain reaction
(RT-PCR) to test the patients at intervals of 5, 8, 11, and 14 days

Re: CS>

[Deborah Gerard]

 
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaccine-researcher-admits-big-mistake-says-spike-protein-is-dangerous-toxin



On Friday, July 30, 2021, 01:07:39 PM EDT, pal joey  
wrote:  
 
 Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene therapy 
aka "vaccine "     
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events
   

Re: CS>

[Deborah Gerard]

 
https://dreddymd.com/2021/07/28/medical-bombshell-blood-doctor-releases-findings-showing-modernas-mrna-covid-vaccines-change-red-blood-cells/



On Friday, July 30, 2021, 01:07:39 PM EDT, pal joey  
wrote:  
 
 Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene therapy 
aka "vaccine "     
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events
   

RE: CS>Silver-List way forward

[Scott Adams]

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From: Pat K.  
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 3:55 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Silver-List way forward

 

Thank you!

Pat





On Jul 30, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Tony Moody mailto:a...@aptech.co.za> >
wrote:

 

Hallo Folks,

Yesterday I spoke to Mike Devour who is alive and well and sounds happy. 

Among other things, he has endorsed our proposed move of this list, Mikes 
Silver List,
from    to  "The Silver 
List",
https://groups.io/g/silverlist .  So I'm not hijacking this list; but we will 
be going to
a safer place with plenty tools for group management and for moderation of 
members. Nenah
Sylver is also a group Owner and has taken on the task of Membership. Mike 
Devour is
already a member and has Moderator status.  (Mike did not wish to be an owner 
of the new
group at the time he joined, a year ago.)

At present the new group has 52 members who have joined from here (including us 
3 Owner
Moderators).

During this past year I  made a house move during which I got cvid, both of 
which ruined
my concentration.  

The Way Forward on the new group 

If you are not a member please Subscribe: by sending an email to
silverlist+subscr...@groups.io   

or Subscribe by going to https://groups.io/g/silverlist  Click on the blue 
button "+ Join
this group" which is part way down the home page. 

If you have difficulties or queries please send email to me or to Group Owner:
silverlist+ow...@groups.io   I can then 
Invite you to
the group.

To post please send an email to silverl...@groups.io  
 
or do webmail if you are a member, you hit Reply to an existing topic or, for a 
new topic,
hit Topic in the the left menu.  It is only kinky the first time. 

All members are moderated for their first few posts, that means someone has to 
approve
your initial messages to the group. This may take some hours before your 
message appears,
please be patient. 

I shall go through the membership and un-moderate all the names i recognise as 
regular
posters

Messages by Non members will usually be returned with a note encouraging you to 
subscribe.


Enough for this now,

OK,

Tony Moody

 

 

 

 

 

Re: CS>Silver-List way forward

[Pat K.]

Thank you!
Pat

> On Jul 30, 2021, at 4:36 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:
> 
> Hallo Folks,
> 
> Yesterday I spoke to Mike Devour who is alive and well and sounds happy. 
> 
> Among other things, he has endorsed our proposed move of this list, Mikes 
> Silver List, from   to 
>  "The Silver List", https://groups.io/g/silverlist 
>  .  So I'm not hijacking this list; but we 
> will be going to a safer place with plenty tools for group management and for 
> moderation of members. Nenah Sylver is also a group Owner and has taken on 
> the task of Membership. Mike Devour is already a member and has Moderator 
> status.  (Mike did not wish to be an owner of the new group at the time he 
> joined, a year ago.)
> 
> At present the new group has 52 members who have joined from here (including 
> us 3 Owner Moderators).
> 
> During this past year I  made a house move during which I got cvid, both of 
> which ruined my concentration.  
> 
> The Way Forward on the new group 
> 
> If you are not a member please Subscribe: by sending an email to 
> silverlist+subscr...@groups.io  
> or Subscribe by going to https://groups.io/g/silverlist 
>   Click on the blue button "+ Join this 
> group" which is part way down the home page. 
> 
> If you have difficulties or queries please send email to me or to Group 
> Owner: silverlist+ow...@groups.io  I can 
> then Invite you to the group.
> 
> To post please send an email to silverl...@groups.io  
> 
> or do webmail if you are a member, you hit Reply to an existing topic or, for 
> a new topic, hit Topic in the the left menu.  It is only kinky the first 
> time. 
> All members are moderated for their first few posts, that means someone has 
> to approve your initial messages to the group. This may take some hours 
> before your message appears, please be patient. 
> 
> I shall go through the membership and un-moderate all the names i recognise 
> as regular posters
> 
> Messages by Non members will usually be returned with a note encouraging you 
> to subscribe. 
> 
> Enough for this now,
> 
> OK,
> 
> Tony Moody
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>Silver-List way forward

[James Osbourne Holmes]

Thank Tony and all.

James 1.618

James Osbourne Holmes
a/k/a *Red Pill Media*






On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:36 PM Tony Moody  wrote:

> Hallo Folks,
>
> Yesterday I spoke to Mike Devour who is alive and well and sounds happy.
>
> Among other things, he has endorsed our proposed move of this list, Mikes
> Silver List, *from*   *to*
> *"The Silver List", https://groups.io/g/silverlist
> * .  So I'm not hijacking this list; but
> we will be going to a safer place with plenty tools for group management
> and for moderation of members. *Nenah Sylver* is also a group Owner and
> has taken on the task of Membership. *Mike Devour* is already a member
> and has Moderator status.  (Mike did not wish to be an owner of the new
> group at the time he joined, a year ago.)
>
> At present the new group has 52 members who have joined from here
> (including us 3 Owner Moderators).
>
> During this past year I  made a house move during which I got cvid, both
> of which ruined my concentration.
>
> *The Way Forward on the new group *
>
> If you are not a member please *Subscribe*: by sending an *email* to 
> silverlist+subscr...@groups.io
>
>
> *or* *Subscribe* by going to https://groups.io/g/silverlist  Click on the
> blue button "+ Join this group" which is part way down the home page.
>
> If you have *difficulties or queries* please send email to me or to Group
> Owner: silverlist+ow...@groups.io I can then Invite you to the group.
> *To post* please send an email to silverl...@groups.io
> or do *webmail* if you are a member, you hit Reply to an existing topic
> or, for a new topic, hit Topic in the the left menu.  It is only kinky the
> first time.
>
> All members are moderated for their *first few posts*, that means someone
> has to approve your initial messages to the group. This may take some hours
> before your message appears, please be patient.
>
> I shall go through the membership and un-moderate all the names i
> recognise as regular posters
>
> Messages by Non members will usually be returned with a note encouraging
> you to subscribe.
>
> Enough for this now,
>
> OK,
>
> Tony Moody
>
>
>
>
>
>

CS>Silver-List way forward

[Tony Moody]

Hallo Folks,

Yesterday I spoke to Mike Devour who is alive and well and sounds happy.

Among other things, he has endorsed our proposed move of this list, 
Mikes Silver List, *from*  *to* _"The Silver 
List", https://groups.io/g/silverlist_ .  So I'm not hijacking this 
list; but we will be going to a safer place with plenty tools for group 
management and for moderation of members. _Nenah Sylver_ is also a group 
Owner and has taken on the task of Membership. _Mike Devour_ is already 
a member and has Moderator status.  (Mike did not wish to be an owner of 
the new group at the time he joined, a year ago.)


At present the new group has 52 members who have joined from here 
(including us 3 Owner Moderators).


During this past year I  made a house move during which I got cvid, both 
of which ruined my concentration.


_*The Way Forward on the new group *_

If you are not a member please *Subscribe*: by sending an _email_ to 
silverlist+subscr...@groups.io 


*or* *Subscribe* by going to https://groups.io/g/silverlist  Click on 
the blue button "+ Join this group" which is part way down the home page.


If you have *difficulties or queries* please send email to me or to 
Group Owner: silverlist+ow...@groups.io 
I can then Invite you to the group.


*To post* please send an email to silverl...@groups.io 

or do *webmail* if you are a member, you hit Reply to an existing topic 
or, for a new topic, hit Topic in the the left menu. It is only kinky 
the first time.


All members are moderated for their *first few posts*, that means 
someone has to approve your initial messages to the group. This may take 
some hours before your message appears, please be patient.


I shall go through the membership and un-moderate all the names i 
recognise as regular posters


Messages by Non members will usually be returned with a note encouraging 
you to subscribe.


Enough for this now,

OK,

Tony Moody

Re: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .

[James Osbourne Holmes]

That will make all mail from the list go to spam.  Or am I mistaken?
James 1.618

James Osbourne Holmes
a/k/a *Red Pill Media*






On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 2:22 PM Nenah Sylver  wrote:

> Douglas Haack wrote: My efforts so far may have been of no value or
> assistance, so here is my angle "how to cope" with TROLLS" again" and again
> and again . . . many of you all are so patient saints in fact . . .  this
> Troll person can't invade my mail space at all . . . . Drop TROLLS into
> SPAM -- they then won't appear again on your email inbox . *Simply
> tick the TROLL email and then TICK on SPAM icon at top of page . . *
>
>  Try it  It works . . . . EASY PEASY.
>
>
>
> ===
>
> So far, I have pretty much stayed out of anything related to the
> disruptions on this egroup. I have the disruptor in my spam folder.
>
>
>
> What I do want to comment on, is how some people on this list allow
> themselves to be sucked in to getting indignant and becoming reactive. You
> are giving this troll person power (and adding to the general agitation on
> this list) by responding. IF THERE WERE NO RESPONSES, THE ARGUMENTS WOULD
> SIMPLY DIE.
>
>
>
> So I'm wondering, perhaps some of the list members need this agitation to
> get their juices flowing? Just a question. (The one silver lining is that
> some people are coming up with great information in their attempt to offer
> rebuttals, and I have used this information on occasion.)
>
>
>
> Anyway, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE LIST: https://groups.io/g/silverlist
>
>
>
> On this other silver list there is HASSLE-FREE discussion, because unlike
> this Eskimo group, the groups.io group has visible (though very laid
> back) leadership and we can boot off anyone who's being disruptive and
> discourteous.
>
>
>
> So, if everyone moved to groups.io and posted there instead of on the
> Eskimo list, the problem would be SOLVED. Right now, that group is quiet
> and this group is where all the action (and agitation) is. I wonder what is
> keeping people here.
>
>
>
> The need for energy, perhaps? Even if that energy is negative?
>
>
>
> *Nenah Sylver, PhD*
>
> author, *The Rife Handbook*
>
> *of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition*
>
> www.nenahsylver.com
>
>
>

RE: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .

[Nenah Sylver]

Douglas Haack wrote: My efforts so far may have been of no value or assistance, 
so here is my angle "how to cope" with TROLLS" again" and again and again . . . 
many of you all are so patient saints in fact . . .  this Troll person can't 
invade my mail space at all . . . . Drop TROLLS into SPAM -- they then won't 
appear again on your email inbox . Simply tick the TROLL email and then 
TICK on SPAM icon at top of page . . 

 Try it  It works . . . . EASY PEASY.

 

===

So far, I have pretty much stayed out of anything related to the disruptions on 
this egroup. I have the disruptor in my spam folder.

 

What I do want to comment on, is how some people on this list allow themselves 
to be sucked in to getting indignant and becoming reactive. You are giving this 
troll person power (and adding to the general agitation on this list) by 
responding. IF THERE WERE NO RESPONSES, THE ARGUMENTS WOULD SIMPLY DIE.

 

So I'm wondering, perhaps some of the list members need this agitation to get 
their juices flowing? Just a question. (The one silver lining is that some 
people are coming up with great information in their attempt to offer 
rebuttals, and I have used this information on occasion.) 

 

Anyway, THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE LIST: https://groups.io/g/silverlist

 

On this other silver list there is HASSLE-FREE discussion, because unlike this 
Eskimo group, the groups.io group has visible (though very laid back) 
leadership and we can boot off anyone who's being disruptive and discourteous.

 

So, if everyone moved to groups.io and posted there instead of on the Eskimo 
list, the problem would be SOLVED. Right now, that group is quiet and this 
group is where all the action (and agitation) is. I wonder what is keeping 
people here.

 

The need for energy, perhaps? Even if that energy is negative?

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, The Rife Handbook

of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health, 5th Edition

www.nenahsylver.com   

 

CS>RE: silver-digest Digest V2021 #172

[hghwykd]

Unsubscribe Sent from my Galaxy

RE: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .

[Linda Ellis]

Thanks for the great description, Douglas!  I have been diligently marking 
every one of her emails as SPAM, but they are still stubbornly showing up.   

 

Hey, Douglas - since you've been around since 1997, do you remember about ten 
years ago there was a woman who was behaving remarkably similar to this one - 
rude, cantankerous, contrary.  Not contributing one iota to furthering 
discussions about the goals of this group which, as I understand it, primarily 
revolve around experimenting with options for addressing health issues that do 
not involve the pharmaceutical industry. 

 

I recall that she went on a rampage, attacking me, personally.  I no longer 
recall what set her off, but the woman was just awful.  I stayed away from the 
list for a couple of days (dishwasher broke - finding, buying and installing 
the new one took precedence ;-)), to find that she had really gone off the 
rails in my absence, and after several warnings, the list moderator kicked her 
out of the group. 

 

Recently, our new Troll mentioned she has been here for about ten 
years...Is it possible this is the same person under a different moniker?  
She's sure behaving a lot like that last one.   

 

 

 

 

 From: "Douglas Haack"  

Date: Fri, Jul 30, 2021 2:06 am 

To: "Silver-List"  

Subject: CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . . 

 . . . Now on anther matter . . . Firstly let me remind you of the old gangster 
term: a "Gangster's Moll",    the Silver list:  . . . . 
  has a virulent TROLL MOLL, who continuously, criticises and postulates and 
CENSORS against all who have an anti-vax opinion/leaning  . . . although this a 
list of "Colloidal Silver" users/makers/adherents . . . where I've been a 
member since 1997 with contributions . . .   A gangsters Moll, a derogatory 
term not popular in today's PC re-structured world of Marxist Woke shenanigans 
-- the gangster's woman/girl/lover/friend -- assuming the gangster is male and 
not a homosexual and the Moll too being hetrosexual -- well, you know, etc . . 
. there must also be an homosexual version . . . .   Can I introduce a new but 
current fitting cultural term, the "TROLL Moll" of which the site is plagued . 
. . actually traditionally a feminine term, although we are free to use it for 
both genders -- as the male and female gender introduced to us in in our early 
life of moral guidance into Christian/Bible culture -- being now torn from us 
thru the forced inoculation of genderless pronouns, into a new "Borg-like" 
existence . . . or to that effect . . .   My efforts so far may have been of no 
value or assistance, so here is my angle "how to cope" with TROLLS" again" and 
again and again . . . many of you all are so patient saints in fact . . .  this 
Troll person can't invade my mail space at all . . . .   Drop TROLLS into SPAM 
-- they then won't appear again on your email inbox .   Simply tick the 
TROLL email and then TICK on SPAM icon at top of page . .     Try it  It 
works . . . .   EASY PEASY . . . .   in SILvation,  dh 

  

CS>

[pal joey]

Doctors reporting their own adverse reactions to the experimental gene
therapy aka "vaccine "
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Rick]

Douglas,
Thank you for this. Thanks to all of you who have found and are spreading
the Truths! This is awesome and we may yet be saved...well, some of us
maybe.

Re: *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . .
.


> 
> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a
> virus"
>


On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 8:57 AM siriusley13 
wrote:

> Off topic
> This is interesting! The agreement between a particular manufacturer to
> each country
> https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419653002818990085
>
> https://youtu.be/6as5vniZ2t0
> On Jul 30, 2021, 6:38 AM -0600, Ode Coyote ,
> wrote:
>
> "Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common
> Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a
> bit more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> *I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE
>> Covid Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . .*
>>
>> *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .
>>
>> 
>> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT
>> a virus" . . . .
>> “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist
>> and have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in
>> S. California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's
>> postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
>>
>>
>> https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8
>>
>

CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Re: CS>Insanity Rules in the U.S. as Hospitalizations and Deaths Among Vaccinated “Breakthrough” Cases Surge While Health Authorities blame the “Unvaccinated” - Vaccine Impact

[James Osbourne Holmes]

Ignore it.  That is the only remedy.
James 1.618

James Osbourne Holmes
a/k/a *Red Pill Media*






On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:56 PM Rick  wrote:

>
> Folks, our lil Cyndi apparently is too damaged to learn. She can't stop
> watching and listening to the very things which have pickled her brain.
> She's our lil Chicken Little Cyndi. But we should still include her in our
> prayers because we should wish no harm to those who simply can't help
> themselves when it comes to something so glaringly obvious (now that we
> know better).
>
> She has all the information thanks in part to all of you that she needs
> should she get Covid herself. But if she got the *shot* that she hasn't
> mentioned, perhaps it will be painless for her. One can only hope for all
> those who will be adversely affected.
>
> Other than this, and we should be grateful there is only one...other than
> this, I am very appreciative of all the rest of you who are sharing the
> un-censored truths from the very people who it is obvious to have our best
> interests (health & wellbeing) at heart, despite the threat of life and
> their own independent practices and or peaceful retirements.
>
> I pray for all of you should things continue down this negative path, that
> we are affected the least and/or that we die peacefully as is our life-long
> wish anyway. Hope to see you all in person someday in a new and glorious
> place!
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:56 AM Linda Ellis  wrote:
>
>> Speaking only for myself, I stopped unquestioningly believing the evening
>> news back during the hearings for Clarence Thomas' nomination to the
>> Supreme Court.  As it happened, I was working on several projects that kept
>> me in my office at my computer, and listened to the entire hearing "live."
>> What I then heard on the evening news was most definitely NOT what I
>> heard.  Ever since then (it actually may have been earlier - during the
>> tobacco hearings, maybe, or the Bork hearings), the first question I ask
>> when I hear something in a short soundbite on the evening news is, "is that
>> true?"  How much I'm interested in the particular issue in question
>> dictates how far I'll go in doing my own fact-checking.
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Cyndiann Phillips" 
>> *Date: *Wed, Jul 28, 2021 8:31 pm
>> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *CS>Re: CS>Insanity Rules in the U.S. as Hospitalizations and
>> Deaths Among Vaccinated “Breakthrough” Cases Surge While Health Authorities
>> blame the “Unvaccinated” - Vaccine Impact
>> There are almost no deaths on the vaccinated, it's 99.5% the unvaccinated
>> that die. Why don't you know that? It's been on the evening news all week.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 3:19 PM T. J. Garland < ironguard...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Read some.
>> Cyindiann think are all liars?
>>
>> https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/insanity-rules-in-the-u-s-as-hospitalizations-and-deaths-among-vaccinated-breakthrough-cases-surge-while-health-authorities-blame-the-unvaccinated/
>>
>>
>> "Imagine a "vaccine" so safe you had to be threatened to get it, for a
>> virus so deadly you had to be tested to know you have it".   Anon
>>
>>

CS>Most Americans Have No Idea How Close They are to Poverty, Starvation, and Death - Vaccine Impact

[T. J. Garland]

https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/most-americans-have-no-idea-how-close-they-are-to-poverty-starvation-and-death/


"Imagine a "vaccine" so safe you had to be threatened to get it, for a virus so 
deadly you had to be tested to know you have it".   Anon

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Cyndiann Phillips]

Neville, it mutated faster because of people spreading it so fast and that
happens when you don't think it's real, when you don't wear masks, when you
don't stay away from people and when you don't get the vaccine.

I'm not provax in any sense of the word. This is the first shot I've gotten
in 20+ years and with good reason. My chances of living increased greatly
when I took the vaccine. There is no doubt about that. It got as close as
right in my face when my 86 year old neighbor caught it and I went over his
house to give him money I made for him by selling his pecans from his tree.
He was obviously sick at the time, coughing and sneezing and that was the
last time I saw him.

Christmas time, he spent his last one on a ventilator and died right after.

If you don't do what it takes to stop the spread you are being selfish,
it's not about rights. It's about doing what is right to stop killing and
maiming people. Long haulers are real.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 9:11 AM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Yep, you're right.  That's where this COVID-19 name came from some
> brainchild, the Coronavirus, i.e. 'CO' refers to CORONA, 'VI' refers to
> virus, 'D' refers to Disease, and '19' is the year it was named.  I
> remember when this shyte first started they called it 'NOVEL', but NOVEL
> means new, that's why they had to stop calling it NOVEL.  There's the
> giveaway, it's not new, it was the stock standard C'rona virus, but
> bioengineered, example for one, MERS, engineered and able to infect humans,
> like the Avian Flu, the Swine Flu etc, it's been spliced, hence covid19.
> Like this "Delta" bs variant "they" go on about, variant is doublespeak, it
> just means it's mutated, as it does every year, or probably every second
> day for all I know, and I don't care.
>
> N.
>
> --
> *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 July 2021 10:38 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus
> EXISTS -- CDC NON!!
>
> "Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common
> Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a
> bit more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
> wrote:
>
>
> *I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid
> Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . . *
>
> *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .
>
> 
> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a
> virus" . . . .
> “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and
> have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S.
> California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's
> postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
>
>
> https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8
>
>

CS>

[pal joey]

Let's see...the public listens to machevali stream media,  machevali stream
media listens to the CDC, and what do we get?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wgNxskRFR788/ (would be funny if not so
tragic)

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Neville Munn]

Yep, you're right.  That's where this COVID-19 name came from some brainchild, 
the Coronavirus, i.e. 'CO' refers to CORONA, 'VI' refers to virus, 'D' refers 
to Disease, and '19' is the year it was named.  I remember when this shyte 
first started they called it 'NOVEL', but NOVEL means new, that's why they had 
to stop calling it NOVEL.  There's the giveaway, it's not new, it was the stock 
standard C'rona virus, but bioengineered, example for one, MERS, engineered and 
able to infect humans, like the Avian Flu, the Swine Flu etc, it's been 
spliced, hence covid19.  Like this "Delta" bs variant "they" go on about, 
variant is doublespeak, it just means it's mutated, as it does every year, or 
probably every second day for all I know, and I don't care.

N.


From: Ode Coyote 
Sent: Friday, 30 July 2021 10:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS 
-- CDC NON!!

"Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common Corona 
variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a bit more 
risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
mailto:douglasha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid Virus 
DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . .

BANNED from YOUTUBE Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .


/.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a 
virus" . . . .
“I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and have 
tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S. 
California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's postulates 
and observation under a SEM (scanning


https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[siriusley13]

Off topic
This is interesting! The agreement between a particular manufacturer to each 
country
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1419653002818990085

https://youtu.be/6as5vniZ2t0
On Jul 30, 2021, 6:38 AM -0600, Ode Coyote , wrote:
> "Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common 
> Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a bit 
> more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.
>
> > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack  
> > wrote:
> > > I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid 
> > > Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . .
> > >
> > > BANNED from YOUTUBE Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .
> > >
> > > /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT 
> > > a virus" . . . .
> > > “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist 
> > > and have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here 
> > > in S. California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's 
> > > postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
> > >
> > >
> > > https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8

CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Douglas Haack]

I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid Virus 
DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . . 

BANNED from YOUTUBE Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . . 

/.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a 
virus" . . . . 
“I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and have 
tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S. 
California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's postulates 
and observation under a SEM (scanning 

https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Ode Coyote]

"Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common
Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a
bit more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
wrote:

>
> *I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid
> Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . . *
>
> *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .
>
> 
> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a
> virus" . . . .
> “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and
> have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S.
> California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's
> postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
>
>
> https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8
>

CS>"Gangster's Moll", ANTI TRUTH MOLL . . . Censor Moll . . .

[Douglas Haack]

. . . Now on anther matter . . . Firstly let me remind you of the old gangster 
term: a "Gangster's Moll", 

 the Silver list:  . . . .

has a virulent TROLL MOLL, who continuously, criticises and postulates and 
CENSORS against all who have an anti-vax opinion/leaning  . . . although this a 
list of "Colloidal Silver" users/makers/adherents . . . where I've been a 
member since 1997 with contributions . . . 

A gangsters Moll, a derogatory term not popular in today's PC re-structured 
world of Marxist Woke shenanigans -- the gangster's woman/girl/lover/friend -- 
assuming the gangster is male and not a homosexual and the Moll too being 
hetrosexual -- well, you know, etc . . . there must also be an homosexual 
version . . . .

Can I introduce a new but current fitting cultural term, the "TROLL Moll" of 
which the site is plagued . . . actually traditionally a feminine term, 
although we are free to use it for both genders -- as the male and female 
gender introduced to us in in our early life of moral guidance into 
Christian/Bible culture -- being now torn from us thru the forced inoculation 
of genderless pronouns, into a new "Borg-like" existence . . . or to that 
effect . . . 

My efforts so far may have been of no value or assistance, so here is my angle 
"how to cope" with TROLLS" again" and again and again . . . many of you all are 
so patient saints in fact . . .  this Troll person can't invade my mail space 
at all . . . .

Drop TROLLS into SPAM -- they then won't appear again on your email inbox .
Simply tick the TROLL email and then TICK on SPAM icon at top of page . . 


Try it  It works . . . . 

EASY PEASY . . . .
in SILvation,  dh

Re: CS>Natural News fruitcake

[Cyndiann Phillips]

MSM, um no. I saw what he posted on Facebook with my own eyes. He thought
FB was out to get him, it was pretty bad. That's a real problem with
reality there. lol

Dude had a good thing going too, it's a shame.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:02 PM Diane Mackey 
wrote:

> You say Mike Adams is a liar.  I prove to you he is not by posting the
> official government website that he quoted to VERIFY the info.  You again
> deny it to be the truth. Yet, you still don't see you have a real problem
> with reality!  So, you then use MSM as your source, which we all know hides
> and refuses to report the truths and maligns those who don't follow their
> agenda.  There is something really wrong with you.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 4:06 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> Nope, not any more. Why are you avoiding my questions?
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:33 PM Diane Mackey 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, you are reading what he posts?  Then you must be following him.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 11:20 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 With good reason because it's not truth at all.

 I remember his rants on Facebook. He needs some serious head drugs. He
 was seeing things not there and hearing voices.

 What makes you think it's true? Have you even once checked what he's
 saying? Obviously not.

 On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:46 PM Diane Mackey 
 wrote:

> All you are doing is PROVING that those who publish the truth are
> being maligned.
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 6:26 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/6/25/21293246/facebook-misinformation-natural-news-conspiracy-theory
>>
>> When you post something you already know isn't true to people who
>> believe you.
>>
>>
>> https://www.isdglobal.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/20200620-ISDG-NaturalNews-Briefing-V4.pdf
>>
>>   ISD’s investigation has identified a collection of 496 active and
>> inactive domains which appear to be linked to NaturalNews and its 
>> founders.
>> These are used to host violent and extremist material, as well as health
>> disinformation and conspiracy theories: To our knowledge, this collection
>> of domains has been registered as far back as 1996, with a peak in the
>> volume of registrations occurring in 2015. This network appears to have
>> been set up by four domain registrants with names matching those of
>> NaturalNews’ online assets or associated corporate entities − Webseed,
>> Healthranger, Truth Publishing International Ltd., and Truthpublish
>>
>> The investigations done on him and his website are almost endless!
>>
>> https://www.nebiosolids.org/mike-adams-natural-news
>>
>> The Health Ranger (Mike Adams) and “Natural News” have joined other
>> conspiracy theorists in attacking the land application of biosolids. 
>> Adams'
>> websites (e.g. "biosludge.news" ) are
>> promoting a new movie, “Biosludged: The Greatest Environment Crime You’ve
>> Never Known," which is due to be released online this year.  It almost
>> seems like a spoof, something so ludicrous that it can be ignored.  But
>> background on Mr. Adams and his many questionable commercial exploits
>> reveals someone who unfortunately has considerable social media 
>> influence,
>> has rankled many professional scientists, and disrupted important quality
>> research programs.  It is a sign of the times that "fake news" is 
>> entering
>> the fringe debates about biosolids recycling.
>>
>>
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/troll-farms-macedonia-philippines-pushed-coronavirus-disinformation-facebook-n1218376
>>
>> One of the largest publishers of coronavirus disinformation on
>> Facebook has been banned from the platform for using content farms from
>> North Macedonia and the Philippines, Facebook said on Friday.
>>
>> The publisher, Natural News, was one of the most prolific pushers of
>> the viral “Plandemic” conspiracy video, which falsely claimed that the
>> coronavirus is part of an elaborate government plot to control the 
>> populace
>> through vaccines, and erroneously claimed that wearing a mask increases 
>> the
>> risk of catching the coronavirus. And then all you idiots fall for it and
>> pass it around and take it as fact when it's not.
>>
>>
>>