Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-18 Thread Ode Coyote 



  But is probably 20 uS..which would likely drop back to around 14 uS 
where the uS and PPM numbers are about the same.


Ode


At 12:25 PM 6/17/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Plugging those numbers into my Excel Faraday calculator I get about
14ppm - not 20ppm.

Dan

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> That may be true for batch processing, but for my flow system, the
> efficiency is about 1/4 of that.  That is with stirring and polarity
> reversal. The exact stats are 1.5 gallon per hour, 20 mA and 20 ppm. 
This is

> probably due to the higher concentration tending to plate back out during
> the brewing.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> Dan Nave wrote:
>>
>> The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
>> conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
>> you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
>> equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
>> ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
>> use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
>> values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
>> calculate an average.)
>>
>> I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
>> exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
>> have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
>> meter...
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>>

 Missed something...

 That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

 Dan

 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

>
> Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
> home generators we see.
> You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
> 500 to 1000ml)
>
> My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
> cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
> approximately
> 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
> abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>
> Dan
>
>>>
>>> ##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the
>>> first
>>> few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very likely
>>> if
>>> the water is good.
>>>
>>> Ode
>>>
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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-17 Thread Dan Nave 
On the other hand, it is possible that any silver that collects on the
negative electrode may require, after polarity has been switched, that
the same amount of current be used to release it from the electrode as
if it had been originally part of that electrode...

Dan

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>>
>> That may be true for batch processing, but for my flow system, the
>> efficiency is about 1/4 of that.  That is with stirring and polarity
>> reversal. The exact stats are 1.5 gallon per hour, 20 mA and 20 ppm. This is
>> probably due to the higher concentration tending to plate back out during
>> the brewing.
>
> Sorry, there is a typo there. It should have been 80 mA, not 20.
>
> Marshall
>>
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> Dan Nave wrote:
>>>
>>> The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
>>> conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
>>> you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
>>> equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
>>> ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
>>> use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
>>> values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
>>> calculate an average.)
>>>
>>> I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
>>> exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
>>> have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
>>> meter...
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote
>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>

 At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:

>
> Missed something...
>
> That is "in a time period of 1 hour."
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
>> home generators we see.
>> You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
>> 500 to 1000ml)
>>
>> My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
>> cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
>> approximately
>> 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
>> abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>>
>> Dan
>>

 ##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the
>>
>> first

 few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very
 likely
>>
>> if

 the water is good.

 Ode



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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-17 Thread Dan Nave 
Plugging those numbers into my Excel Faraday calculator I get about
14ppm - not 20ppm.

Dan

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> That may be true for batch processing, but for my flow system, the
> efficiency is about 1/4 of that.  That is with stirring and polarity
> reversal. The exact stats are 1.5 gallon per hour, 20 mA and 20 ppm. This is
> probably due to the higher concentration tending to plate back out during
> the brewing.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> Dan Nave wrote:
>>
>> The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
>> conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
>> you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
>> equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
>> ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
>> use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
>> values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
>> calculate an average.)
>>
>> I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
>> exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
>> have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
>> meter...
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>>

 Missed something...

 That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

 Dan

 On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

>
> Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
> home generators we see.
> You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
> 500 to 1000ml)
>
> My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
> cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
> approximately
> 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
> abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>
> Dan
>
>>>
>>> ##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the
>>> first
>>> few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very likely
>>> if
>>> the water is good.
>>>
>>> Ode
>>>
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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-17 Thread Marshall Dudley 

Marshall Dudley wrote:
That may be true for batch processing, but for my flow system, the 
efficiency is about 1/4 of that.  That is with stirring and polarity 
reversal. The exact stats are 1.5 gallon per hour, 20 mA and 20 ppm. 
This is probably due to the higher concentration tending to plate back 
out during the brewing.


Sorry, there is a typo there. It should have been 80 mA, not 20.

Marshall



Marshall


Dan Nave wrote:

The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
calculate an average.)

I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
meter...

Dan



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote

wrote:
 

At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
   

Missed something...

That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave 
wrote:
 

Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
home generators we see.
You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
500 to 1000ml)

My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
approximately
17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)

Dan


##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the

first
few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very 
likely

if

the water is good.

Ode



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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-17 Thread Marshall Dudley 
That may be true for batch processing, but for my flow system, the 
efficiency is about 1/4 of that.  That is with stirring and polarity 
reversal. The exact stats are 1.5 gallon per hour, 20 mA and 20 ppm. 
This is probably due to the higher concentration tending to plate back 
out during the brewing.


Marshall


Dan Nave wrote:

The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
calculate an average.)

I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
meter...

Dan



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
  

At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:


Missed something...

That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
  

Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
home generators we see.
You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
500 to 1000ml)

My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
approximately
17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)

Dan


##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the first
few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very likely if
the water is good.

Ode



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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-17 Thread Ode Coyote 



  With polarity shifting there are a few seconds per cycle that don't do 
much as the electrochemistry reverses.
If I recall, the current stays constant, but the voltage makes a swing, so 
the EIS chemistry shifting may be "delivering" current like a battery for a 
few seconds.
If the shift frequency is one minute, 10 or 20 seconds out of that cycle 
doing nearly nothing could make a huge error in the calculations.


Ode



At 09:44 PM 6/16/2009 -0500, you wrote:

The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
calculate an average.)

I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
meter...

Dan



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> Missed something...
>>
>> That is "in a time period of 1 hour."
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
>> > Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
>> > home generators we see.
>> > You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
>> > 500 to 1000ml)
>> >
>> > My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
>> > cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
>> > approximately
>> > 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
>> > abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>> >
>> > Dan
>
> ##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the first
> few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very 
likely if

> the water is good.
>
> Ode
>
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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-16 Thread Dan Nave 
The point is, in this case, electrode size doesn't matter.  If you are
conducting at the rate of 1ma and the volume of water is 1 cup, then
you release enough silver into the water in 1 hour hour to have an
equivalent of 17 ppm.  This gives you a rule by which you can get a
ballpark idea of what may be going on in your brewing cell.  You can
use it to estimate.  Just adjust for the variables.  (For current
values before you reach 1 ma, Hint: measure the current vs time and
calculate an average.)

I submit, that with polarity switching, the ppm of the product is
exactly what is calculated by Faradays Law of Electrolysis.  Until you
have any fallout.  And this is more accurate than measuring with a
meter...

Dan



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>> Missed something...
>>
>> That is "in a time period of 1 hour."
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
>> > Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
>> > home generators we see.
>> > You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
>> > 500 to 1000ml)
>> >
>> > My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
>> > cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to
>> > approximately
>> > 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
>> > abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>> >
>> > Dan
>
> ##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the first
> few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very likely if
> the water is good.
>
> Ode
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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-16 Thread Ode Coyote 

At 12:56 PM 6/15/2009 -0500, you wrote:

Missed something...

That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
> Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
> home generators we see.
> You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
> 500 to 1000ml)
>
> My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
> cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to approximately
> 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
> abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>
> Dan


##  Using how much electrode, at what distance and assuming that the first 
few hours were actually running at 1 milliamp when that's not very likely 
if the water is good.


Ode



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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-16 Thread Ode Coyote 

At 09:22 AM 6/15/2009 -0400, you wrote:
My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and does 
it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need to get 
new silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver leads with a 
clean paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the ppm? after 3 hours 
what is the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and so on and so forth... 
feel free to call me now at my desk also with any helpful tips



##  Too many glaring conditional vagaries to say anything at all.
..the questions are meaningless and un-answerable without a lot more 
information.


Excepting the obvious:
When the silver is gone, you don't have an electrode...time to get a new one.
 Anything clean is suitable for wiping one off.


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Subject: RE: CS>Shelf-life of CS
I agree completely. I keep my homemade CS in a glass sun tea pitcher on 
the counter and it takes about a month for me and the fam to use 3/4 of 
it. I use the other 1/4 as a starter for my next batch. It has always 
stabilized at 5ppm.


##  As measured by what method or instrument?
Without splitting hairs ALL the way to the root, if a "PPM/TDS" meter was 
used, that's more like 10 PPM rather than 5.

Meters don't measure PPM.
 PPM meters are designed to work in salt water.
 Silver water is not salt water.

Ode




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RE: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Gaiacita 
Could the folks that have their emails set for everyone to acknowledge the
receipt of their message please change their settings?  

Samala,
Renee

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Thank you for the tip

RE: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Evans, Antonio F. 
Thank you for the tip 


A. Evans/ 
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we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and 
all there ever will be to know and understand."
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very 
first Batch"

Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the home 
generators we see.
You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
500 to 1000ml)

My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1 cup of 
water at 1 milliamp current is equivalent to approximately 17ppm.  You can 
extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning abilities, if you have 
any...  (I assume you do)

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
> My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and 
> does it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need 
> to get new silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver 
> leads with a clean paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the 
> ppm? after 3 hours what is the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and 
> so on and so forth... feel free to call me now at my desk also with 
> any helpful tips A. Evans/ Desk: 202.461.8863
> Fax: 202.565.4679
> "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is 
> limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces 
> the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."
>
> Albert Einstein
> 1879-1955, Physicist


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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Nave 
Missed something...

That is "in a time period of 1 hour."

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
> Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
> home generators we see.
> You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
> 500 to 1000ml)
>
> My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
> cup of water at 1 milliamp current in 1 hour is equivalent to approximately
> 17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
> abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Evans, Antonio F. 
> wrote:
>> My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and does
>> it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need to get new
>> silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver leads with a clean
>> paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the ppm? after 3 hours what is
>> the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and so on and so forth... feel free
>> to call me now at my desk also with any helpful tips
>> A. Evans/ Desk: 202.461.8863
>> Fax: 202.565.4679
>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to
>> all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world,
>> and all there ever will be to know and understand."
>>
>> Albert Einstein
>> 1879-1955, Physicist
>


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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Dan Nave 
Two gallons is probably too much to brew at one time with most of the
home generators we see.
You would be better off starting out with a pint or a quart. (approx.
500 to 1000ml)

My rule of thumb is that the maximum amount of silver released into 1
cup of water at 1 milliamp current is equivalent to approximately
17ppm.  You can extrapolate from this rule.  Just use your reasoning
abilities, if you have any...  (I assume you do)

Dan

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Evans, Antonio F. wrote:
> My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and does
> it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need to get new
> silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver leads with a clean
> paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the ppm? after 3 hours what is
> the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and so on and so forth... feel free
> to call me now at my desk also with any helpful tips
> A. Evans/ Desk: 202.461.8863
> Fax: 202.565.4679
> "Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to
> all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world,
> and all there ever will be to know and understand."
>
> Albert Einstein
> 1879-1955, Physicist


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Re: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick 
It all depends on your generator.  I have a Silver Puppy and I make up to 32
ounces at a time.  The SP has a reverse polarity function which I use
because you get almost no crud in the water but it takes longer to brew
using this method.  Mine takes approximately 9 to 10 hours to make this
amount because my distilled water is extremely pure.  The amount of TDS in
the water reads 7-9 and I take this to mean there is approximately 14ppm at
the end of the time.  It is (almost) impossible to accurately judge the ppm
but it doesn't really matter as long as it isn't over 30ppm (for normal use
that is)  dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Evans, Antonio F.
Date: 15/06/2009 14:23:36
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very
first Batch"
 
My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and does
it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need to get new
silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver leads with a clean
paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the ppm? after 3 hours what is
the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and so on and so forth... feel free
to call me now at my desk also with any helpful tips
A. Evans/ Desk: 202.461.8863 <>

CS>How do I successfully create CS? >Shelf-life of CS "My very first Batch"

2009-06-15 Thread Evans, Antonio F. 
My first question is, how long should I leave the process brewing and
does it take longer if I am making 2 gallons at a time? do I ever need
to get new silver leads and when should I? I just wiped my silver leads
with a clean paper towel is that okay? how do I increase the ppm? after
3 hours what is the ppm? after 6 hours what is the ppm? and so on and so
forth... feel free to call me now at my desk also with any helpful tips
A. Evans/ Desk: 202.461.8863 
Fax: 202.565.4679 
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited
to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire
world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."

Albert Einstein
1879-1955, Physicist 

From: Scotty [mailto:scottie592...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Shelf-life of CS

I agree completely. I keep my homemade CS in a glass sun tea pitcher on
the counter and it takes about a month for me and the fam to use 3/4 of
it. I use the other 1/4 as a starter for my next batch. It has always
stabilized at 5ppm.

Scott <><
"With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27
--- On Wed, 5/27/09, Neville Munn  wrote:
From: Neville Munn 
Subject: RE: CS>Shelf-life of CS
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:25 PM




Below are my rationalisations regarding some of your points raised.
Your snipped quote:
[cs does not have a long shelf life] and [always make it fresh...  This
might not be a creditable statement ]
-Produced using appropriate methods and equipment it'll keep as long as
I want.  making it 'fresh' is credible if I want to ingest/apply
predominantly ionic silver for a given circumstance, for another
circumstance I may prefer a more even ratio of ions and particles
present in which case I would wait 24-48 hours before
ingesting/applying.
[should be used up as soon as possible]
-Only if I want to use a solution of high ionic silver content then I
would only make small amounts to ensure it is consumed/used while awake.
[The quality of the CS would also determine the shelf life]
-Quality is Distilled Water and Pure Silver which should give mine
unlimited shelf life.
[how could you test it?]
-Ignoring all the ballyhoo about meters, a meter will indicate when the
solution has reached it's stabilizing point and readings should only
fluctuate minimally from that point on...usually after 24-48 hours.
[that it needs to be keep dark and probably a cool and dry place]
-I made a 300ml glass four days ago to show someone and it's been
sitting on the kitchen cupboard under 'flouro' lighting ever since and
nothing has changed, still hovering around 19uS after stabilizing from
an initial 27.3uS, and with the distinct 'sheen' to the solution, very
faint 'colour' and fairly strong TE.
 
Dunno if my rationalisations are of any help?
N.
 

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Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:22:21 +0200
From: goldena...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Shelf-life of CS


I just read on that one german site for generators, that cs does not
have a long shelf life, and then it should be used up as soon as
possible, and that you should always make it fresh...  This might not be
a creditable statement on their part, as I've read no such thing
anywhere, except of course, that it needs to be keep dark and probably a
cool and dry place, like most other natural remedies.

What would you guys say?
The quality of the CS would also determine the shelf life, I would
suppose. But again, how could you test it? Which generator had that
feature again? I think it would be helpful to know what one produced...
Aldona

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