Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-26 Thread j rigby

At 01:28 PM 25/08/04, you wrote:

.it appears even John Hopkins University, center for environmental health
( who in fact actually was involved in the first documented cure of argyria
so severe it not only turned the individual blue -- face, arms, chest,
abdomen-- but it effected his health ) shies away from claims of curing the
incurable.



 if similar to the fuss about the (unseen) clay posting 
elsewhere,  statements like this one could be easily misconstrued. It is 
most important  - as I've tried to gently point out on many occasions in 
many places - an email sent to anyone, much less a public list is etched in 
cyberstone forever.  It is public property.


Those of us trying to defend sane healing methods have a constant fight 
over this amazing but understandable Medical Mafia lie:

CS or EIS  causes Argyria.
There is not a single documented case that has been proved.

The man mentioned so horribly graphically here was a worker in a processing 
plant who had never heard of CS.

He was poisoned by massive exposure to silver by-products.
It would be appreciated if this sort of data was made clear.
I have already experienced the idiocy of this claim in my personal 
evangelising of  CS, especially in conjunction with H202 and DMSO


Extensive research into the curative properties of silver has been 
conducted for many years at the Upstate Medical Center, Syracuse 
University, Syracuse, N.Y. under the direction of Dr. Becker. The 
experiments concluded that silver works on a wide range of bacteria, 
without any known side-effects or damage to the cells of the body. Becker 
discovered that the silver was doing something more than just killing 
disease-causing organisms: It was also causing major growth stimulation of 
injured tissues. Dr. Becker concludes that the presence of the silver ion 
may help to regenerate tissue, eliminate old or cancerous cells, and any 
other diseased or abnormal tissue condition.

It does.

Cheers,
Himagain-defender-of-the-new-faith


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CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-24 Thread David

This is pretty interesting stuff :)


http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=97i=991

David



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Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-24 Thread Jason Eaton
Hi David:

I really need to know who is posting my emails to the forums!

Ideally, that message will be removed in short order, as I've asked that it
be removed from the Cure Zone forum.  It compromises some budding
relationships I have with the memorial hospital medical staff, as well as
puts me at risk for FDA action.

However, it still always awes me, even after 11 years of working with
healing clays.

Best Regards,

Jason




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination



 This is pretty interesting stuff :)


 http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=97i=991

 David



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Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-24 Thread David
I am sorry Jason I didn't have a clue that was
connected to you. I was just reading the colloidal
Silver forum on curezone and thought everyone here
might find it interesting.  My apologies.
--- Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi David:
 
 I really need to know who is posting my emails to
 the forums!
 
 Ideally, that message will be removed in short
 order, as I've asked that it
 be removed from the Cure Zone forum.  It compromises
 some budding
 relationships I have with the memorial hospital
 medical staff, as well as
 puts me at risk for FDA action.
 
 However, it still always awes me, even after 11
 years of working with
 healing clays.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Jason
 
 
 
 
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 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:23 PM
 Subject: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination
 
 
 
  This is pretty interesting stuff :)
 
 
  http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=97i=991
 
  David
 
 
 
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Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-24 Thread Jason Eaton
Hi David:

Oh, no apologies needed!

I've long allowed the most excellent ladies at curezone.com to utilize a
wide variety of articles written by me over the years.  Their website gets
ALOT of traffic.

I'm glad you brought it to my attention.  I really should have been far more
careful in my wording of the email that went to my small healing clay group.
THAT'S my error!

In fact, I'm going into my own archives to make some corrections to the
original posting.  I should have never named the hospital in my
conversation, and should have been far more careful in my wording of the
initial message!

More and more, I'm working with MD's tired of treatments failing.  NONE of
them want their institutions named in public!  Concerning the healing clays,
I have, in the past, had to nearly forcibly insist that they NOT use it in
their practice.  Naive MD's in the U.S. who get excited don't realize how
quickly they can lose their medical license.  The best healing clays are not
sterile, and I have found the FDA grade clays to be so inferior I won't
touch them.

...it appears even John Hopkins University, center for environmental health
( who in fact actually was involved in the first documented cure of argyria
so severe it not only turned the individual blue -- face, arms, chest,
abdomen-- but it effected his health ) shies away from claims of curing the
incurable.  I've been attempting to contact the infamous Dr. Ziem, who
consulted on the case, for quite awhile.  I spent quite some time with the
individual cured, and the treatment was remarkably similiar to the one
posted previously, utilizing diet and an agressive supplement program... But
the critical treatment? SWEAT CHAMBER treatment.  The individual, having
followed the supplement program, LITERALLY sweat the silver out of his skin.
With each treatment, his skin improved, until no signs of argyria remained.
The silver poisoning was caused by years of working with silver as an
industrial metal smith.  The treatment program took 6-9 months.

It seems that everyone is getting gun shy in this terrorist age about
being in the public eye.

Best Regards,

Jason

- Original Message -
From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination


 I am sorry Jason I didn't have a clue that was
 connected to you. I was just reading the colloidal
 Silver forum on curezone and thought everyone here
 might find it interesting.  My apologies.
 --- Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net wrote:

  Hi David:
 
  I really need to know who is posting my emails to
  the forums!
 
  Ideally, that message will be removed in short
  order, as I've asked that it
  be removed from the Cure Zone forum.  It compromises
  some budding
  relationships I have with the memorial hospital
  medical staff, as well as
  puts me at risk for FDA action.
 
  However, it still always awes me, even after 11
  years of working with
  healing clays.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Jason
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:23 PM
  Subject: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination
 
 
  
   This is pretty interesting stuff :)
  
  
   http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=97i=991
  
   David
  
  
  
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Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination

2004-08-24 Thread cliff hume
Tell your doctor friend that DMSO gets the silver deeply into the wounds or
even unbroken skin. Anyone using DMSO should order Dr. Motron Walker'd Book:
DMSO Nature's Healer.

Cliff.ch...@shaw.ca

- Original Message - 
From: David 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination


 I am sorry Jason I didn't have a clue that was
 connected to you. I was just reading the colloidal
 Silver forum on curezone and thought everyone here
 might find it interesting.  My apologies.
 --- Jason Eaton ey...@cox.net wrote:

  Hi David:
 
  I really need to know who is posting my emails to
  the forums!
 
  Ideally, that message will be removed in short
  order, as I've asked that it
  be removed from the Cure Zone forum.  It compromises
  some budding
  relationships I have with the memorial hospital
  medical staff, as well as
  puts me at risk for FDA action.
 
  However, it still always awes me, even after 11
  years of working with
  healing clays.
 
  Best Regards,
 
  Jason
 
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: David davidgrave...@sbcglobal.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:23 PM
  Subject: CSInteresting Clay Bath/Silver Combination
 
 
  
   This is pretty interesting stuff :)
  
  
   http://www.curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=97i=991
  
   David
  
  
  
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