CSThe Foolish Experiment
Morning Steve, I am sure I have it. A great article on sweat was researched and written by Bob Lee, who was the mastermind of that exrperiment. I made a web page of the sweat article, with his permission. Some years ago someone posted a very interesting and humorous account of he and his buddies having a few drinks, then deciding to try an ill-advised experiment by eating some very spoiled food - meat I think. Why Ill Advised? I think it was a genius experiment. They got quite ill, then drank some CS (or EIS for you purists) and quickly recovered. Only one got Sick. If someone has that account, I and probably most of the rest of the list would appreciate seeing it reposted. Will see if I can locate it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment
At 07:23 PM 4/21/2004 -0700, Jason wrote: Hiya Steve: That's from Bob Lee... Here's his account, with the names and locations removed ( sorry about the name's removed, I use this on our testimonials section ): Greeting Glorious Ones of CS, A Test: Do not do this at home. The first I saw this was on Ode's site. Whenever I travel, I keep a bottle of CS with me. I know that in an emergency I can even eat road kill. Of course, I may have to add some water to it and wash it off to get the tire treads and grease off of it. stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment
hrs). Temperature held steady then began dropping; took CS at four tablespoons every 30 minutes, and by the end of four hours he was feeling normal again. Continued CS at four tablespoons once an hour until the end of six hours just to make sure the botulism was gone. That was Saturday, now its Monday and still OK. The colloidal silver was 9ppm, active. So what does it prove (besides our dumb idea)? Well, the colloidal silver treated meat was rendered safe. This showed that CS can treat rotten food in an emergency if need be with CS. It proved to us it would stop botulism. I usually take CS before eating out anyway. It proved we shouldn`t drink so much at one time. Now [ names removed ] are using colloidal silver. :-) Now I feel better about them and their health. Bless you [ Name Removed ] - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: CSThe Foolish Experiment Some years ago someone posted a very interesting and humorous account of he and his buddies having a few drinks, then deciding to try an ill-advised experiment by eating some very spoiled food - meat I think. They got quite ill, then drank some CS (or EIS for you purists) and quickly recovered. If someone has that account, I and probably most of the rest of the list would appreciate seeing it reposted. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 04/21/2004
CSRE: CSThe Foolish Experiment
This is probably true. Botulism, once created by the bacteria, must be boiled to break it down. The CS would have killed the bacteria, but probably had no effect on the toxin already in the body. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment I doubt they were dealing with Botulism, more likely Salmonella. Even E. Coli would have been worse than what they had. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: CSThe Foolish Experiment
Botulism is an anaerob, does not grow in the presence of Oxygen. It is a risk in canned foods for this reason. Sprores can be found in raw honey as well, although rarely happens, it is recommended that raw honey not be given to the immune deficient such as toddlers or the infirm. It is said that boiling canned foods for 20 minutes is preventative, but if there is a can or jar with a popped lid or swelling throw it away for goodness sake. It is extremely toxic in small amounts. As well E. coli takes only a very few organsims to make you sick. It can shut down your kidneys in short order and kills quickly. Again not something to experiment with. Salmonella on the other hand is not so risky for mature immune systems as they develop resistance. However still very risky for the immune deficient or in sufficient quantity. I would caution anyone to throw out any food that they think is spoiled, it is simply not worth the risk. Even for daily EIS consumers. On another note . . A few weeks ago my husband and daugher got food poisoning from something we all ate, at a restaurant. I had been drinking EIS, up to a cup a day preventatively. I did not get sick. Garnet On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 09:35, James Holmes wrote: This is probably true. Botulism, once created by the bacteria, must be boiled to break it down. The CS would have killed the bacteria, but probably had no effect on the toxin already in the body. JOH -Original Message- From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment I doubt they were dealing with Botulism, more likely Salmonella. Even E. Coli would have been worse than what they had. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment
got the CS one and [ Victim ] got the untreated one. We ate them, with a little beer to blunt the taste of them. Really macho. :-) Then we waited. After half an hour [ Victim ] developed a stomach ache, which proceeded to get worse. He had classical symptoms of food poisoning (botulism). I did not develop any symptoms at all. His temperature began to rise so we decided to use the CS right away at about 101.5 F. [ Victim ] took four tablespoons of CS every 15 minutes for 90 minutes (1 1/2 hrs). Temperature held steady then began dropping; took CS at four tablespoons every 30 minutes, and by the end of four hours he was feeling normal again. Continued CS at four tablespoons once an hour until the end of six hours just to make sure the botulism was gone. That was Saturday, now its Monday and still OK. The colloidal silver was 9ppm, active. So what does it prove (besides our dumb idea)? Well, the colloidal silver treated meat was rendered safe. This showed that CS can treat rotten food in an emergency if need be with CS. It proved to us it would stop botulism. I usually take CS before eating out anyway. It proved we shouldn`t drink so much at one time. Now [ names removed ] are using colloidal silver. :-) Now I feel better about them and their health. Bless you [ Name Removed ] - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: CSThe Foolish Experiment Some years ago someone posted a very interesting and humorous account of he and his buddies having a few drinks, then deciding to try an ill-advised experiment by eating some very spoiled food - meat I think. They got quite ill, then drank some CS (or EIS for you purists) and quickly recovered. If someone has that account, I and probably most of the rest of the list would appreciate seeing it reposted. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 04/21/2004
CSThe Foolish Experiment
Some years ago someone posted a very interesting and humorous account of he and his buddies having a few drinks, then deciding to try an ill-advised experiment by eating some very spoiled food - meat I think. They got quite ill, then drank some CS (or EIS for you purists) and quickly recovered. If someone has that account, I and probably most of the rest of the list would appreciate seeing it reposted. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Foolish Experiment
Hiya Steve: That's from Bob Lee... Here's his account, with the names and locations removed ( sorry about the name's removed, I use this on our testimonials section ): Greeting Glorious Ones of CS, A Test: Do not do this at home. A few military friends of mine got together last week for the usual yak-yak about military things. The talk came around to the anthrax shots. I opened my mouth and said they wouldn`t need them if all the military were taking colloidal silver. A long discussion then went on, at the end we had decided to set up a real he-man, macho, walk the walk test. Cold brew will do things to normally intelligent people. This was not a smart thing to do, but please consider who our small group is. One was me, [ name removed ], ex-seal from Nam, One ex-Army Ranger, [ name removed ], from Desert Storm, and one ex 82nd Air Borne from Bosnia, [ name removed ], (paratrooper). I`m the oldest, they are young guys. The test was to eat rotten meat and see if the colloidal silver would prevent problems. We agreed that if anyone became ill we would wait for at least a 103 F degree fever before taking colloidal silver. If it (the CS) did not work we would go to the ER at a fever of 105 degrees F. The ER was only a few blocks away at [ name removed ] Hospital. Then we decided that one, [ Observer ], would be the observer, and the other two would eat the rotten meat. Then we decided that one meat would be treated with colloidal silver and one not. OK, so here we go to [ name removed ]'s house and get the rotten meat he was going to throw out, it smelled very bad and strong. [ Name Removed ] is baching, so whats new. We made two patties of about 1/4 lb each, hamburger size. One was put in a bowl and CS poured over it and kneeded well in the CS and made into a patty again. The other one was untreated. We drew straws to see who got each patty. I got the CS one and [ Victim ] got the untreated one. We ate them, with a little beer to blunt the taste of them. Really macho. :-) Then we waited. After half an hour [ Victim ] developed a stomach ache, which proceeded to get worse. He had classical symptoms of food poisoning (botulism). I did not develop any symptoms at all. His temperature began to rise so we decided to use the CS right away at about 101.5 F. [ Victim ] took four tablespoons of CS every 15 minutes for 90 minutes (1 1/2 hrs). Temperature held steady then began dropping; took CS at four tablespoons every 30 minutes, and by the end of four hours he was feeling normal again. Continued CS at four tablespoons once an hour until the end of six hours just to make sure the botulism was gone. That was Saturday, now its Monday and still OK. The colloidal silver was 9ppm, active. So what does it prove (besides our dumb idea)? Well, the colloidal silver treated meat was rendered safe. This showed that CS can treat rotten food in an emergency if need be with CS. It proved to us it would stop botulism. I usually take CS before eating out anyway. It proved we shouldn`t drink so much at one time. Now [ names removed ] are using colloidal silver. :-) Now I feel better about them and their health. Bless you [ Name Removed ] - Original Message - From: S J Young you...@konnections.net To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: CSThe Foolish Experiment Some years ago someone posted a very interesting and humorous account of he and his buddies having a few drinks, then deciding to try an ill-advised experiment by eating some very spoiled food - meat I think. They got quite ill, then drank some CS (or EIS for you purists) and quickly recovered. If someone has that account, I and probably most of the rest of the list would appreciate seeing it reposted. Thanks, --Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 04/21/2004
