Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing
Hi Lin, I have actually gone to an EFT seminar and have all the manuals etc., I tried it for quite a few things and it seemed to work. But after a while, my logical mind took over and I thought 'this can't really work' and lo and behold - it didn't! This is why I still think it is all to do with the subconscious mind doing the curing. I have read Deepak Chopra, and he says it only takes a 'notion' by the subconscious for it to work, and its all to do with quantum physics. Some people are very open to their subconscious being 'persuaded' (like my husband) and these people make the best subjects for hypnotists too. I am a natural sceptic and do like things to be 'proved' as much as possible, and no-one has ever been able to hypnotize me. However, bearing in mind the relationship between EFT and the subconscious mind, I know that it *does* work, *if* you believe it will, even if it is a tentative belief for some people. If it does work, then it really doesn't matter *why* it works, does it? dee jlgregel wrote: Dee...sometimes it takes doing a little digging around to find different aspects that might be the trigger to releasing. For me, I've found that I almost always get good results when I'm tapping on something that has just happened or is fairly recent When I cut my thumb very deeply with a kitchen knife, I started doing the tapping mentally in my head (my other hand was tightly squeezing a rag around my bleeding hand). It took a few minutes and I didn't think I was getting anywhere while tapping on this deep cut..this pain..this bleeding, but when I switched to I was so clumsy with the knife..I wasn't paying attention...whoosh that did it. The bleeding stopped on the spot, there was no pain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it. Having said that, when I have had a diy session, it has worked so well that I have never bothered to take it any further, but I really only use it for worries, hardly ever for anything physical, and most of the time it doesn't even come to mind. Rowena So do you have any idea at all why EFT doesn't work for some people? I used and tried it off and on for a couple years with no results. Maybe I should go through the videos again, LOL. But I gave up on it. Maybe it is like being hypnosis resistant--I simply do not believe our physical problems are all emotional in nature. Quite the reverse, my experience has been that when I address physical problems successfully the mental/emotional fix themselves automatically, with no mental work or focus needed at all. sol
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
Gotta chime in here What anyone can learn to do from the EFT website is amazing, you do not need to take courses, just study the newsletters, and forum. It's all there. I've had huge success' with EFT on myself, friends family and animals. . I've also had times that it didn't seem to help or it did help, but not for a few hours later. Many that I've worked with had complete denial that EFT would help them and yet it has. I use EFT for all kinds of things in my life, however, if I had any deep long time issues either physical or emotional, I wouldn't hesitate to see a professional therapist or MD that uses EFT. Gary Craig (the founder of EFT) has a website and free newsletters, archives that are jammed full of tips and helpful information. He also sells videos as training tools, but they are not necessary to learn to use EFT in everyday life. If you purchase his videos, he encourages you to make as many copies as you can and give them away. He wants the world to learn to use this amazing tool. Many therapists and MD's are adding EFT to their practices. I've taught my grand kids (age 6) to tap and they now use EFT as well. My Mom can now stop a migraine within the first few minutes with EFT. She has suffered migraines her entire life until two years ago after learning EFT. She was hugely skeptical when she learned to tap, yet it's the only thing in 70 years that has finally helped her. Did you know that other countries are training people in their militaries to use EFT? I'm not sure if the US has started yet or not, but suspect they won't be far behind, as it has helped so many war Vets already. I could go on and on, but will close here with just this . I feel very fortunate to have both EFT and CS in my healing tool box..powerful stuff! Lin - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
Dear Lin, thank you very much for this helpful and encouraging information. I strted using EFT months ago but abandoned it because I thought it didn't work. But now I will try it again and go back to the website for more help. Again, thank you very much. Best wishes, Faith G. - Original Message - From: jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Gotta chime in here What anyone can learn to do from the EFT website is amazing, you do not need to take courses, just study the newsletters, and forum. It's all there. I've had huge success' with EFT on myself, friends family and animals. . I've also had times that it didn't seem to help or it did help, but not for a few hours later. Many that I've worked with had complete denial that EFT would help them and yet it has. I use EFT for all kinds of things in my life, however, if I had any deep long time issues either physical or emotional, I wouldn't hesitate to see a professional therapist or MD that uses EFT. Gary Craig (the founder of EFT) has a website and free newsletters, archives that are jammed full of tips and helpful information. He also sells videos as training tools, but they are not necessary to learn to use EFT in everyday life. If you purchase his videos, he encourages you to make as many copies as you can and give them away. He wants the world to learn to use this amazing tool. Many therapists and MD's are adding EFT to their practices. I've taught my grand kids (age 6) to tap and they now use EFT as well. My Mom can now stop a migraine within the first few minutes with EFT. She has suffered migraines her entire life until two years ago after learning EFT. She was hugely skeptical when she learned to tap, yet it's the only thing in 70 years that has finally helped her. Did you know that other countries are training people in their militaries to use EFT? I'm not sure if the US has started yet or not, but suspect they won't be far behind, as it has helped so many war Vets already. I could go on and on, but will close here with just this . I feel very fortunate to have both EFT and CS in my healing tool box..powerful stuff! Lin - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
Faith..you are so welcome. Something I have figured out while gleaning information and techniques from Gary Craig's site is that there are 2 types of groups using it. One the average person wanting to learn EFT for their own personal use and then there are the professionals such as therapists of all types.I found that if I keep that in mind, I can make better use of the site. Early on I thought I needed to read every post and understand each approach, but now I know some of it I don't need to get that deep into in order to use EFT in day to day in my life. They say try it on everything and I certainly do. A few examples of great results I've had are: completely stopping the bleeding and pain immediately after cutting my thumb badly with a kitchen knife, ridding my feet of 18 months of plantar fasciitis, getting rid of headaches, backaches, insomnia, fear of public speaking, anger at a co worker, anxiety at the dentist's office, pain from an improperly set crown on a molar, addiction to chocolate, and complete reduction of swelling in a freshly broken toe (within minutes!) Not every attempt has produced the results I had hoped for, but sometimes, it takes more persistence. Since you are working on the electrical system traveling through your body, it does help to be well hydrated and when possible do tapping away from electronics such as computers. Once you have the first positive result...the excitement will carry you further into learning and using EFT more. My best, Lin - Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Dear Lin, thank you very much for this helpful and encouraging information. I strted using EFT months ago but abandoned it because I thought it didn't work. But now I will try it again and go back to the website for more help. Again, thank you very much. Best wishes, Faith G. - Original Message - From: jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Gotta chime in here What anyone can learn to do from the EFT website is amazing, you do not need to take courses, just study the newsletters, and forum. It's all there. I've had huge success' with EFT on myself, friends family and animals. . I've also had times that it didn't seem to help or it did help, but not for a few hours later. Many that I've worked with had complete denial that EFT would help them and yet it has. I use EFT for all kinds of things in my life, however, if I had any deep long time issues either physical or emotional, I wouldn't hesitate to see a professional therapist or MD that uses EFT. Gary Craig (the founder of EFT) has a website and free newsletters, archives that are jammed full of tips and helpful information. He also sells videos as training tools, but they are not necessary to learn to use EFT in everyday life. If you purchase his videos, he encourages you to make as many copies as you can and give them away. He wants the world to learn to use this amazing tool. Many therapists and MD's are adding EFT to their practices. I've taught my grand kids (age 6) to tap and they now use EFT as well. My Mom can now stop a migraine within the first few minutes with EFT. She has suffered migraines her entire life until two years ago after learning EFT. She was hugely skeptical when she learned to tap, yet it's the only thing in 70 years that has finally helped her. Did you know that other countries are training people in their militaries to use EFT? I'm not sure if the US has started yet or not, but suspect they won't be far behind, as it has helped so many war Vets already. I could go on and on, but will close here with just this . I feel very fortunate to have both EFT and CS in my healing tool box..powerful stuff! Lin - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing
Apparently, it works even if you don't believe it. Even if someone else does the tapping and affirming. And even if you don't accept the affirmation, e.g. you don't accept and love yourself. Friend of mine didn't believe it, but it worked on her, even though she was a difficult case. She uses it herself now. R The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake a course of instruction, and the experience and expertise when you go to a practitioner. Also, the phrasing of the affirmations is important, and one could easily be framing it in a negative way without realising it.
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
Dear Lin: Wow. I am not only encouraged, I am also impressed. I think that yours is an impressive list of major complaints and wonderful results. I've got to get going on this technique again. I am very encouraged and I thank you for writing about this to help others. Best wishes, Faith G. - Original Message - From: jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:46 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Faith..you are so welcome. Something I have figured out while gleaning information and techniques from Gary Craig's site is that there are 2 types of groups using it. One the average person wanting to learn EFT for their own personal use and then there are the professionals such as therapists of all types.I found that if I keep that in mind, I can make better use of the site. Early on I thought I needed to read every post and understand each approach, but now I know some of it I don't need to get that deep into in order to use EFT in day to day in my life. They say try it on everything and I certainly do. A few examples of great results I've had are: completely stopping the bleeding and pain immediately after cutting my thumb badly with a kitchen knife, ridding my feet of 18 months of plantar fasciitis, getting rid of headaches, backaches, insomnia, fear of public speaking, anger at a co worker, anxiety at the dentist's office, pain from an improperly set crown on a molar, addiction to chocolate, and complete reduction of swelling in a freshly broken toe (within minutes!) Not every attempt has produced the results I had hoped for, but sometimes, it takes more persistence. Since you are working on the electrical system traveling through your body, it does help to be well hydrated and when possible do tapping away from electronics such as computers. Once you have the first positive result...the excitement will carry you further into learning and using EFT more. My best, Lin - Original Message - From: Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Dear Lin, thank you very much for this helpful and encouraging information. I strted using EFT months ago but abandoned it because I thought it didn't work. But now I will try it again and go back to the website for more help. Again, thank you very much. Best wishes, Faith G. - Original Message - From: jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working Gotta chime in here What anyone can learn to do from the EFT website is amazing, you do not need to take courses, just study the newsletters, and forum. It's all there. I've had huge success' with EFT on myself, friends family and animals. . I've also had times that it didn't seem to help or it did help, but not for a few hours later. Many that I've worked with had complete denial that EFT would help them and yet it has. I use EFT for all kinds of things in my life, however, if I had any deep long time issues either physical or emotional, I wouldn't hesitate to see a professional therapist or MD that uses EFT. Gary Craig (the founder of EFT) has a website and free newsletters, archives that are jammed full of tips and helpful information. He also sells videos as training tools, but they are not necessary to learn to use EFT in everyday life. If you purchase his videos, he encourages you to make as many copies as you can and give them away. He wants the world to learn to use this amazing tool. Many therapists and MD's are adding EFT to their practices. I've taught my grand kids (age 6) to tap and they now use EFT as well. My Mom can now stop a migraine within the first few minutes with EFT. She has suffered migraines her entire life until two years ago after learning EFT. She was hugely skeptical when she learned to tap, yet it's the only thing in 70 years that has finally helped her. Did you know that other countries are training people in their militaries to use EFT? I'm not sure if the US has started yet or not, but suspect they won't be far behind, as it has helped so many war Vets already. I could go on and on, but will close here with just this . I feel very fortunate to have both EFT and CS in my healing tool box..powerful stuff! Lin - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working The whole point of EFT is to really *believe* that what you are saying/doing will work. The brain/subconscious sytem will do the rest. dee Rowena wrote: As I understand it, there is only so much you can do yourself from a video or book or free workshop. That way you only get to know the HOW, but the WHEN is what you are really paying for when you undertake
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing
What about those it *doesn't* work for though? dee Rowena wrote: Apparently, it works even if you don't believe it. Even if someone else does the tapping and affirming. And even if you don't accept the affirmation, e.g. you don't accept and love yourself. Friend of mine didn't believe it, but it worked on her, even though she was a difficult case. She uses it herself now. R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing
Dee...sometimes it takes doing a little digging around to find different aspects that might be the trigger to releasing. For me, I've found that I almost always get good results when I'm tapping on something that has just happened or is fairly recent When I cut my thumb very deeply with a kitchen knife, I started doing the tapping mentally in my head (my other hand was tightly squeezing a rag around my bleeding hand). It took a few minutes and I didn't think I was getting anywhere while tapping on this deep cut..this pain..this bleeding, but when I switched to I was so clumsy with the knife..I wasn't paying attention...whoosh that did it. The bleeding stopped on the spot, there was no pain. Then I doused it with CS (gotta stay on topic a little here) For a few days I felt the sensation of throbbing in my finger, the type that is usually with pain, though this didn't hurt. The first emotional response when I knew I had cut my hand, but it was too soon for the blood and pain..what geez, I've really screwed up...I wasn't paying attention..I've got too much to do, I have no time to have a hurt hand. I was angry at myself and as soon as I acknowledged that tapping, I got results. Also, the more specific you can be the better. So if you have a headache...describe it as much as possible. Such as if it's a dull, or pulling, or knife like pain, anything you know of that might have triggered it, not enough sleep, anger, fumes...etc. Same thing with emotional stuff like fear You gotta really dig around in there and come up with the important stuff. My grand daughter has been terrified of the Halloween displays in a local grocery store for the past 2 seasons. We tapped for her last year and got no where. This year when the displays went up we hoped by her being a year older, that they wouldn't be stressful for her. Not so...she actually saw them and couldn't move, all she could do was stand there frozen and tremble. After we got her home I asked her to describe the icky part of the displays and she came up with lots to tap on...the fact they are so big, the scary color black, they have a certain smell, they move when she isn't expecting it. Finally, we got through to something that was the root of it and now she can happily grocery shop with her Mom, and not avoid that end of the store. I don't go after deep issues that might be life long. If I had some intense negative emotional stuff that I've held onto for a long time or a disease of any type, I would run (not walk) to a EFT Professional Therapist or a MD that uses it. Again, I feel that I have 2 very powerful tools for healing to help myself, family and pets between my cs generator and EFT. I can't think of anything I would rather have at my fingertips in an emergency than these 2 things. Lin on the cloudy Olympic Peninsula, Washington State - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing What about those it *doesn't* work for though? dee Rowena wrote: Apparently, it works even if you don't believe it. Even if someone else does the tapping and affirming. And even if you don't accept the affirmation, e.g. you don't accept and love yourself. Friend of mine didn't believe it, but it worked on her, even though she was a difficult case. She uses it herself now. R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working / believing
I have no reply for these people. I suppose that is what the experts are for. My son had been on antidepressants for a long time, in hospital, all sorts. His general practitioner got him to see one of the other doctors in the practice. He had three sessions of what sounded to me like a very poor version of the EFT - just tapping a particular place to the side of the chest, while saying what the problem was. He felt really stupid doing it, and had no faith in it at all. Except, after three sessions he was fine. I am not trying to convince anyone, just saying what has floated past my eyes. R What about those it *doesn't* work for though? dee Rowena wrote: Apparently, it works even if you don't believe it. Even if someone else does the tapping and affirming. And even if you don't accept the affirmation, e.g. you don't accept and love yourself. Friend of mine didn't believe it, but it worked on her, even though she was a difficult case. She uses it herself now. R
Re: CSacne, EFT, not working
I have to say again, it didn't work at all for me. Nor did I have any success iwth it on a family member, or on my animals. Just didn't work. And I did learn it from the online sources, and from a set of videos. sol jlgregel wrote: Gotta chime in here What anyone can learn to do from the EFT website is amazing, you do not need to take courses, just study the newsletters, and forum. It's all there. I've had huge success' with EFT on myself, friends family and animals. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
