Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme - Lymestrategies Yahoo Group
Hey Sasha! Where the heck you been??? She has come on over to see us, I think she's gettin some help already. Hope you've been feeling ok, I haven't seen you in months. Kurt S-Max s...@emotap.com wrote: Hi Kurt, I just pm'd Mary Ellen regarding Lymestrategies. So, hopefully, she will join. S-Max ---Original Message--- From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com Date: 6/15/2008 1:21:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Mary Ellen Murphy Subject: Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme Stop trying to do it all by yourself Mary Ellen. Many here tried to send you over to lymestragies, and we are still waiting for you to show up! We have 1 800 lymies there, already been through what you are going through, so come on over. Yes, pain and depression are lyme related and they both suck! Kurt Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme
Stop trying to do it all by yourself Mary Ellen. Many here tried to send you over to lymestragies, and we are still waiting for you to show up! We have 1,800 lymies there, already been through what you are going through, so come on over. Yes, pain and depression are lyme related and they both suck! Kurt Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM To: Silver-List@Eskimo.Com Subject: FW: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Dear Mike: I have not been reading the CS group for quite a while, but Carol alerted me to the Lyme discussion going on. A long story very short, Carol got bitten by a tick and proved to be a willing test subject to help me design a new way of treating Lyme disease. Take a look at the link http://meissnerresearch.com/products/dougplus . Carol is a great researcher and found that Lyme will mimic 200 other diseases. We discovered that Carol has been suffering from Lyme for over 14 years and was being treated for a variety of illnesses. It took about 6 months of daily treatments with the DougPlus for Carol to feel like she was 90% recovered and possibly one year to be 100%. During that time she was consuming 32 ounces of colloidal silver every day for 3 or 4 months. She found that when she dropped back to a lower dosage, her herx, fever and chills, would get worse. Please note this high dosage should only be done with well made colloidal silver http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator containing only nano size particles. My generator was tested by Frank Key who makes the smallest possible particles of 0.75 nanometer as found in MesoSilver. Anyway I would like to ask if it would be OK to post the DougPlus link on your CS group? Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: What type of symtoms did you have. I suffer with a lot of pain, fagigue, brain fog, back and neck problems, thyroid and addison's disease, sleep apnea, depression. Gosh I could go on. I want to get rid of this. This is a miserable existence. All of the above except Addison's, plus a weird pulling sensation on the top of my scalp, insomnia, yet falling asleep when I was trying to stay awake, and later arthritis. Marshall Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:ddar...@centurytel.net] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDesperately need help with Lyme Mary Ellen: I had late Lyme for 42 years, a long time before they even named it. Besides the usual problems I got to the point where I couldn't even put a sentence together. Speaking to anyone became a major problem that still remains a problem though not so pronounced. Some call it brain fog. Well to get to the help you need I will tell you how I got rid of it (the lyme). I wasn't into CS at that time so after hearing about it I bought two 16 ounce bottles and a generator and started taking the small tablespoon full as was the wisdom at that time. After using up one of the bottles with no relief I thought it was all bull so I chugged the other bottle all at once. At that my generator arrived so I made a batch and started taking it at the rate of four ounces every twenty minutes. I figured if it killed me it was for the better. What happened was on the third day of this regimen I awoke in the middle of the night with a vigorous feeling of well being. The Lyme was gone but a long recovery was ahead as all the damage wasn't over. Incidently I had seen a doctor just before this and he took blood for testing at my insistance and it came back positive with two bands, after the CS I went back for another Lyme test and It came back negative. Dave Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am a new member. I am trying to find out info about Lyme and how to use the silver, with diatamatious earth to get rid of Lyme I have also gotten info about the terminator zapper. Has anyone had success using these products to get rid of Lyme. I am presently taking the cumanda and burber protocol. How do you read arhives with this site. I was referred by Wolfcreek, suppliers of diatamaitous earth Thanks -Original Message-
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme
And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPain and depression with Lyme
Thank you I am using diatomatious earth for the parasites. I know they can be a big problems also. What can be done about the herx when doing the salt/ C protocol. How slowly should you start. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -Original Message- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:50 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme- herx?
You are welcome. I have not done the salt/C protocol, however, I have had a little experience with the herx from other things. For me, sweating helps enormously, and it is important to get the sweat off ASAP. Sauna is the best, but a hot bath with salt in it is what I usually do. Even sitting in a hot car for awhile will work. If you are sweating alot, it can be important to replace electrolytes, like sodium potassium, also magnesium, and calcium to a lesser extent. There are supplements too. I used a type of candida detox protocol, there are several online. One good place to find info is at the yahoo group sauna detox. Another group is detox- there are files with info at both groups. You can ask about the salt/C at the Lyme group, they should know. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: Thank you I am using diatomatious earth for the parasites. I know they can be a big problems also. What can be done about the herx when doing the salt/ C protocol. How slowly should you start. Thanks Mary Ellen -Original Message- From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPain and depression with Lyme And it does not help that many docs view depression as not part of the problem, in my opinion caused by maybe spirochetes in the brain, and/or brain poisons put out by the bugs. Yes, it surely can be, so don't fall for it. Repetitive thinking can be definitely caused by physical ailments. There was one preliminary study that showed the parasites that cause cat scratch fever (toxoplasmosis?) are killed by several psychology medications, as well as anti parasitics. They were going to try treating people with bi-polar disorder with antiparasitics and see if it helped them. There is a serious probability that many so-called psychological complaints are actually parasitic, or toxic in nature. You may have limited energy. It may feel overwhelming, but you can do it. Just get through one day at a time. I still keep lists of what I need to do each day (supplements to take, and when to take them), so I don't forget something important. Hang in there. kathryn On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote: I am in sever back pain and suicidal depression. Is this part of lyme. I am not sure I can hang on and continue all this protocol. It is just to much to do by yourself. Mary ellen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
