Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[William Missett]

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  I have a question for you.



  When making cs, can I use prill water, I make at home, instead of steam 
distilled water I buy at the store???



  Mary

-- Original message from Ode Coyote : 
-- 


> At 06:17 PM 11/6/2007 +, you wrote: 
> >But mercury is a known neuro toxin, so why put it in vaccines anyway? 
Dee 
> 
> There "was" a reason, now there isn't. 
> They have new preservatives now, but lots of old stock to use up as new 
> stocks are made, the new stocks now being used on kids. 
> Vaccines are not easy to make. 
> But that's not the issue. 
> The issue is: *If Mercury causes Autism, how to "effectively" reduce the 
> load* 
> Using Mercury free vaccines is only a very small start.. ..not a 
solution. 
> And no one said it wasn't worth doing...by all means do it, but the job 
> will still be far from done because it's not "the" problem. 
> It's like clipping the toenails of the monster! and ex pecting it to go 
> home in fear of death. 
> 
> Typical human behavior says: " When faced with a coming world sized 
> landslide, pick on pebbles close at hand." 
> " Kill the little weak guy in that horde of snarlies! " 
> 
> Environmental mercury compound pollution is on a disquieting rise, [daily 
> exposure] FAR more of a problem than a couple of vaccines over a life 
time, 
> quickly becoming unavoidable. 
> 
> One posted article said that un-vaccined kids eliminated mercury at a 
> similar rate as vaccinated kids. 
> Question: Where did the un-vaccinated kids get that Mercury to eliminate 
> at a similar rate? 
> 
> The total existing load in both sets of kids wasn't mentioned. That would 
> be a telling figure to ponder. 
> 
> The Danish study showed the rates of new cases of Autism increasing AFTER 
> Mercury was removed from vaccines. 
> If M! ercury causes Autism and vaccines have none, what caused the rise? 
> 
> My guess: A few million tons of coal and diesel smoke added during that 
> period of time. 
> The EPA lists coal as the #1 source of mercury pollution...diesel some 
> where around #6 
> 
> http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/sources.asp 
> 
> 
> Chlorine plants, which use massive quantities of mercury to extract 
> chlorine from salt, "lose" dozens of tons of mercury each year; power 
> plants emit around 50 tons of mercury pollution annually. Facilities that 
> recycle auto scrap are another big source of mercury pollution, pouring 
10 
> to 12 tons of mercury into the air every year. 
> 
> ..that's just "America" 
> The wind has no boundaries. 
> 
> Coal-fired power plants are the largest source of mercury air emissions 
> worldwide. As the price of oil rises, coal becomes a more eco! nomical ly 
> attractive source of energy in countries where it is abundant and 
> inexpensive. Currently, coal-fired power plants supply seventy-five 
percent 
> of China's energy; in the next eight years, China is expected to add more 
> than 560 coal plants at a pace of more than one new plant each week. 
> 
> It takes the power of air borne Mercury to refine Lead to put in paint 
[wink] 
> Mr Nimby ! ..go over *there* and commit our "consumercide" where there 
> aren't any expensive rules. 
> It's win win. We get cheaper stuff and export the pollution that industry 
> produces that produces that stuff. 
> The Chinese and Indians get to kill off a major hunk of their over 
> population while [??] "making a better life". [??] 
> "Don't breed like rats" laws didn't work. 
> No, really. It's probably not a conspiracy, just normal average human 
> stupidity. [No conspiracy needed] 
> Maybe t! he "NWO " ...DOES want to dramatically reduce the world 
population, 
> but all they have to do to accomplish that... is wait and let it have 
what 
> it wants. 
> 
> More: 
> http://whyfiles.org/201mercury/ 
> Mercury from power plants and other pollution sources is converted by 
    > bacteria into methylmercury, which gets bio-accumulated in the food chain 
> 
> http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/states.asp 
> Advisories map. [Jus

Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[mborgert]

I have a question for you.

When making cs, can I use prill water, I make at home, instead of steam 
distilled water I buy at the store???

Mary
-- Original message from Ode Coyote : 
-- 


> At 06:17 PM 11/6/2007 +, you wrote: 
> >But mercury is a known neuro toxin, so why put it in vaccines anyway? Dee 
> 
> There "was" a reason, now there isn't. 
> They have new preservatives now, but lots of old stock to use up as new 
> stocks are made, the new stocks now being used on kids. 
> Vaccines are not easy to make. 
> But that's not the issue. 
> The issue is: *If Mercury causes Autism, how to "effectively" reduce the 
> load* 
> Using Mercury free vaccines is only a very small start.. ..not a solution. 
> And no one said it wasn't worth doing...by all means do it, but the job 
> will still be far from done because it's not "the" problem. 
> It's like clipping the toenails of the monster and expecting it to go 
> home in fear of death. 
> 
> Typical human behavior says: " When faced with a coming world sized 
> landslide, pick on pebbles close at hand." 
> " Kill the little weak guy in that horde of snarlies! " 
> 
> Environmental mercury compound pollution is on a disquieting rise, [daily 
> exposure] FAR more of a problem than a couple of vaccines over a life time, 
> quickly becoming unavoidable. 
> 
> One posted article said that un-vaccined kids eliminated mercury at a 
> similar rate as vaccinated kids. 
> Question: Where did the un-vaccinated kids get that Mercury to eliminate 
> at a similar rate? 
> 
> The total existing load in both sets of kids wasn't mentioned. That would 
> be a telling figure to ponder. 
> 
> The Danish study showed the rates of new cases of Autism increasing AFTER 
> Mercury was removed from vaccines. 
> If Mercury causes Autism and vaccines have none, what caused the rise? 
> 
> My guess: A few million tons of coal and diesel smoke added during that 
> period of time. 
> The EPA lists coal as the #1 source of mercury pollution...diesel some 
> where around #6 
> 
> http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/sources.asp 
> 
> 
> Chlorine plants, which use massive quantities of mercury to extract 
> chlorine from salt, "lose" dozens of tons of mercury each year; power 
> plants emit around 50 tons of mercury pollution annually. Facilities that 
> recycle auto scrap are another big source of mercury pollution, pouring 10 
> to 12 tons of mercury into the air every year. 
> 
> ..that's just "America" 
> The wind has no boundaries. 
> 
> Coal-fired power plants are the largest source of mercury air emissions 
> worldwide. As the price of oil rises, coal becomes a more economically 
> attractive source of energy in countries where it is abundant and 
> inexpensive. Currently, coal-fired power plants supply seventy-five percent 
> of China's energy; in the next eight years, China is expected to add more 
> than 560 coal plants at a pace of more than one new plant each week. 
> 
> It takes the power of air borne Mercury to refine Lead to put in paint [wink] 
> Mr Nimby ! ..go over *there* and commit our "consumercide" where there 
> aren't any expensive rules. 
> It's win win. We get cheaper stuff and export the pollution that industry 
> produces that produces that stuff. 
> The Chinese and Indians get to kill off a major hunk of their over 
> population while [??] "making a better life". [??] 
> "Don't breed like rats" laws didn't work. 
> No, really. It's probably not a conspiracy, just normal average human 
> stupidity. [No conspiracy needed] 
> Maybe the "NWO" ...DOES want to dramatically reduce the world population, 
> but all they have to do to accomplish that... is wait and let it have what 
> it wants. 
> 
> More: 
> http://whyfiles.org/201mercury/ 
> Mercury from power plants and other pollution sources is converted by 
> bacteria into methylmercury, which gets bio-accumulated in the food chain 
> 
> http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/states.asp 
> Advisories map. [Just America ] 
> 
> 
> Ode 
> 
> > 
> >---Original Message--- 
> > 
> >From: Ode Coyote 
> >Date: 06/11/2007 14:54:52 
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> >Subject: Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest" 
> > 
> >Basic cause and effect logic:pretty simple. 
> > 
> > >>#1] Establish how much Mercury it takes to "cause" Autism. 
> > 
> >#2] Subtract natural and pollutant sources from the vaccine sources to 
> >determine h

Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Ode Coyote]

At 06:17 PM 11/6/2007 +, you wrote:

But mercury is a known neuro toxin, so why put it in vaccines anyway?  Dee


There "was" a reason, now there isn't.
 They have new preservatives now, but lots of old stock to use up as new 
stocks are made, the new stocks now being used on kids.

 Vaccines are not easy to make.
 But that's not the issue.
 The issue is: *If Mercury causes Autism, how to "effectively" reduce the 
load*

 Using  Mercury free vaccines is only a very small start.. ..not a solution.
And no one said it wasn't worth doing...by all means do it, but the job 
will still be far from done because it's not "the" problem.
 It's like clipping the toenails of the monster and expecting it to go 
home in fear of death.


 Typical human behavior says: " When faced with a coming world sized 
landslide, pick on pebbles close at hand."

 " Kill the little weak guy in that horde of snarlies! "

 Environmental mercury compound pollution is on a disquieting rise, [daily 
exposure] FAR more of a problem than a couple of vaccines over a life time, 
quickly becoming unavoidable.


 One posted article said that un-vaccined kids eliminated mercury at a 
similar rate as vaccinated kids.
 Question:  Where did the un-vaccinated kids get that Mercury to eliminate 
at a similar rate?


The total existing load in both sets of kids wasn't mentioned. That would 
be a telling figure to ponder.


 The Danish study showed the rates of new cases of Autism increasing AFTER 
Mercury was removed from vaccines.

 If Mercury causes Autism and vaccines have none, what caused the rise?

 My guess:  A few million tons of coal and diesel smoke added during that 
period of time.
 The EPA lists coal as the #1 source of mercury pollution...diesel some 
where around #6


http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/sources.asp


Chlorine plants, which use massive quantities of mercury to extract 
chlorine from salt, "lose" dozens of tons of mercury each year; power 
plants emit around 50 tons of mercury pollution annually. Facilities that 
recycle auto scrap are another big source of mercury pollution, pouring 10 
to 12 tons of mercury into the air every year.


..that's just "America"
 The wind has no boundaries.

Coal-fired power plants are the largest source of mercury air emissions 
worldwide. As the price of oil rises, coal becomes a more economically 
attractive source of energy in countries where it is abundant and 
inexpensive. Currently, coal-fired power plants supply seventy-five percent 
of China's energy; in the next eight years, China is expected to add more 
than 560  coal plants at a pace of more than one new plant each week.


It takes the power of air borne Mercury to refine Lead to put in paint [wink]
Mr Nimby !  ..go over *there* and commit our "consumercide" where there 
aren't any expensive rules.
It's win win.  We get cheaper stuff and export the pollution that industry 
produces that produces that stuff.
 The Chinese and Indians get to kill off a major hunk of their over 
population while [??] "making a better life". [??]

 "Don't breed like rats" laws didn't work.
No, really.  It's probably not a conspiracy, just normal average human 
stupidity. [No conspiracy needed]
 Maybe the "NWO" ...DOES want to dramatically reduce the world population, 
but all they have to do to accomplish that... is wait and let it have what 
it wants.


More:
http://whyfiles.org/201mercury/
Mercury from power plants and other pollution sources is converted by 
bacteria into methylmercury, which gets bio-accumulated in the food chain


http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/states.asp
Advisories map. [Just America ]


Ode



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From: <mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net>Ode Coyote
Date: 06/11/2007 14:54:52
To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

Basic cause and effect logic:pretty simple.

>>#1] Establish how much Mercury it takes to "cause" Autism.

#2] Subtract natural and pollutant sources from the vaccine sources to
determine how much the vaccine added.
That is:
  Subtract the amount in vaccines given [ a known]  from the total load [a
knowable] to determine what was environmentally accumulated [an unknown]

Then take whatever steps appropriate to prevent the total from exceeding a
minimum amount that might cause Autism.
Can that be done in a modern world?   Maybe, maybe not...you might have to
move out of New Jersey.
There is likely no place on Earth where you'll get none.


Ode

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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Dee]

But mercury is a known neuro toxin, so why put it in vaccines anyway?  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 06/11/2007 14:54:52
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"
 
Basic cause and effect logic:pretty simple.
 
>>#1] Establish how much Mercury it takes to "cause" Autism.
 
#2] Subtract natural and pollutant sources from the vaccine sources to
determine how much the vaccine added.
That is:
  Subtract the amount in vaccines given [ a known]  from the total load [a
knowable] to determine what was environmentally accumulated [an unknown]
 
Then take whatever steps appropriate to prevent the total from exceeding a
minimum amount that might cause Autism.
Can that be done in a modern world?   Maybe, maybe not...you might have to
move out of New Jersey.
There is likely no place on Earth where you'll get none.
 
 
Ode
 

Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Ode Coyote]

 I am, in fact, staying in context, just didn't state it 
precisely.  [too complicated for this simplistic conversation ]


 "Pollutants" and fish content does not count non-bio-available sources of 
mercury as consumable content, rather, specifies the forms and ratios, 
mostly being variants of Methyl Mercury, Ethyl Mercury etc  including how 
some forms convert to others in the environment.



Thiomersal [alkyl or methyl mercuric sulfur compound]



 Being hit by rocks is a danger, but focusing on pebbles in a landslide 
doesn't stop the boulders from squashing you.

..nor does calling pebbles boulders help re-inflate a condition of flatness.
 That also doesn't mean ignoring pebbles has to be done in order to 
address the boulders problem.
If a solution is to be found, pursuing fear reinforced ignorance and NOT 
looking anywhere else, won't find it.


[THATS "IT"!  Cartoons on TV causes Autism and Senility, look no 
further...hang all animators...end of problem if you can, but you can't. ]


Interesting Danish study:
http://www.immunizationinfo.org/immunization_science_detail.cfv?id=4




The question

Did the incidence of autism in Denmark decrease after 
thimerosal-containing 
vaccines were discontinued in 1992?






The findings

From 1971 to 2000, 956 children were diagnosed with autism, with a rise in 
the number of cases in the 1990s. They found no correlation between 
thimerosal-containing vaccines and autism. The incidence [number of new 
cases over a time period] of autism remained fairly stable until 1990 and 
thereafter *increased* throughout the study period, including the period 
when thimerosal was no longer in vaccines.


Question: What else, linked to incidence of Autism, increased between 1992 
and 2000?
 Manufacturing in and pollution from coal fired China ?  [amongst many 
other factors and sources concerning air and water pollution everywhere]

 Like...
54% of the electricity generated in the USA is from burning Mercury 
containing coal.
Louisiana electricity consumption increased by 21,804 million 
kilowatt-hours (kWh) between 1980 and 2001, representing an annual average 
increase of 1.7%.


Killing off Doctors with 25 microgram needles won't clean up the air and 
oceans...or will it?
 Well, they ARE " targets" that *can* be shot at by scared crazy 
people...just because.

 It's a whole lot Harder to shoot the air or an ocean.


Ode





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You are likely comparing apples and oranges there.  Mercury in some forms 
is almost non-toxic, such as the liquid metal, and in other forms, such as 
dimethylmercury a whiff, or even a drop of it on the skin for a second can 
kill you.  You have to know what compound of mercury we are talking about. 
15 micrograms of dimethylmercury  would most likely kill a baby.


Take a look at http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmh.htm to 
see just how poisonous mercury CAN be.


Marshall


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Ode Coyote]

Basic cause and effect logic:pretty simple.


#1] Establish how much Mercury it takes to "cause" Autism.


#2] Subtract natural and pollutant sources from the vaccine sources to 
determine how much the vaccine added.

That is:
 Subtract the amount in vaccines given [ a known]  from the total load [a 
knowable] to determine what was environmentally accumulated [an unknown]


Then take whatever steps appropriate to prevent the total from exceeding a 
minimum amount that might cause Autism.
Can that be done in a modern world?   Maybe, maybe not...you might have to 
move out of New Jersey.

There is likely no place on Earth where you'll get none.


Ode



Dianne
That seems contrary to the peer reviewed papers I saw the other day that 
indicated that some cases of autism are caused by the mercury in vaccinations.


Marshall


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Del]

You are likely comparing apples and oranges there.  Mercury in some
forms is almost non-toxic, such as the liquid metal, and in other forms, 
such as dimethylmercury a whiff, or even a drop of it on the skin for a 
second can kill you.  You have to know what compound of mercury we are 
talking about. 15 micrograms of dimethylmercury  would most likely kill a 
baby.


Take a look at http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmh.htm to 
see just how poisonous mercury CAN be.


Marshall


Marshall:

I guess that explains why I am still alive.  I often wondered about that. 
When we were kids we used to play with liquid mercury which was readily 
available in our grammar school science cabinet (no lock or anything). 
Rolled it around in our palms, etc.  Were not dumb enough to swallow any.


Come to think about it, the science room back then was a very dangerous 
place.  I did nearly die when I touched the terminals of an electric arc 
machine that I thought was turned off.  It wasn't.  Knocked me cold and 
second degree burns on my hands.  Fortunately for me, another student had 
the presence of mind to pull the plug.


Del 




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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Marshall Dudley]

Ode Coyote wrote:

At 10:05 AM 11/3/2007 -0400, you wrote:

In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article " Fear: 
Mercury Fact:  A few years back researchers raised the concern that 
people (especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, 
from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the 
metal.  To be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many 
pediatric vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that the form 
of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build 
up in the body."


I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe 
would be none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it 
back?


Dianne


##  It means that even if that form of mercury does build up in the 
body, it's still only 25 micrograms per vaccine and kids don't get 
nearly as many vaccines as *Tuna of the consumer polluted seas* 
sandwiches and *TV time Kilowatts* from the coal fired power plants 
that polluted them with more and more mercury as demand for 
electricity skyrockets, as actually containable radioactive waste is 
yet another public target, preventing the moth balling of the coal 
plants with their *un-containable* byproducts.


 It means they've responded to public outcry, warranted or not, in a 
measured sane manner...dodging the bullets without a big  fight, no 
matter if well aimed or not.
That adding ANY load to an existing one isn't necessary if there are 
alternatives and *no reason* is a *good enough reason* to go to the 
alternatives ASAP if it comforts the public... be that public 
right or wrong. [Doesn't matter any more, issue side stepped and made 
a moot point. ]
and now we can see if the Autism numbers go down [and be very 
quiet about it ...if they don't, then pick another target out of 
the thousands of possibilities, so long as it's *them* being shot at 
and not *us*. ]


Shall we try, "watching endless hours of cartoons on TV" causes Autism?
Electron gun scan line rate photon emission frequency based selective 
epilepsy?
Don't Alzheimers people like watching cartoons?.causing aluminum 
retention in brain matter too old to hold more power plant mercury? [ 
double whammy amalgam mind ? ]


 THAT'S IT!

"Don't touch that dial!"
Get the baseball bats!  Grab those Alcoa frying pans!
Disney World, here we come!

Ode



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You are likely comparing apples and oranges there.  Mercury in some 
forms is almost non-toxic, such as the liquid metal, and in other forms, 
such as dimethylmercury a whiff, or even a drop of it on the skin for a 
second can kill you.  You have to know what compound of mercury we are 
talking about. 15 micrograms of dimethylmercury  would most likely kill 
a baby.


Take a look at http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmh.htm 
to see just how poisonous mercury CAN be.


Marshall


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Smitty]

> I agree with you.  I was surprised to read this in Prevention.

You might wonder WHO owns Prevention Mag ?


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Dianne France]

Marshall

I agree with you.  I was surprised to read this in Prevention.  I had to take 
my Mom to the doctor and this magazine was sitting there so I read it.  I was 
able to get a copy of the article.  I have been particularly interested because 
I have a great niece that was born with a heart murmur and our niece is going 
to have her vaccinated.  I have read everything I could and forwarded it on to 
her.  Many of the writings I've read on this group.  She still feels safe so I 
have done what I could but still read anything I see about it.

Thought I would put it in an email to the group so you know what is being said 
out there.

Dianne 
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  From: Marshall Dudley<mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com> 
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  Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:39 AM
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  Dianne France wrote:
  > In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article *" Fear: 
  > Mercury Fact:  A few years back researchers raised the concern that 
  > people (especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, 
  > from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the 
  > metal.  To be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many 
  > pediatric vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that the form 
  > of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up 
  > in the body."*
  > ** 
  > I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe 
  > would be none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it 
  > back?
  >  
  > Dianne
  That seems contrary to the peer reviewed papers I saw the other day that 
  indicated that some cases of autism are caused by the mercury in 
  vaccinations.

  Marshall


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Marshall Dudley]

Dianne France wrote:
In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article *" Fear: 
Mercury Fact:  A few years back researchers raised the concern that 
people (especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, 
from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the 
metal.  To be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many 
pediatric vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that the form 
of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up 
in the body."*
** 
I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe 
would be none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it 
back?
 
Dianne
That seems contrary to the peer reviewed papers I saw the other day that 
indicated that some cases of autism are caused by the mercury in 
vaccinations.


Marshall


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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Ode Coyote]

At 10:05 AM 11/3/2007 -0400, you wrote:

In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article " Fear: 
Mercury Fact:  A few years back researchers raised the concern that people 
(especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, from 
thimerosal, a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the metal.  To 
be on the safe side, thimerosal was removed from many pediatric 
vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that the form of mercury 
found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up in the body."


I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe would 
be none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it back?


Dianne


##  It means that even if that form of mercury does build up in the body, 
it's still only 25 micrograms per vaccine and kids don't get nearly as many 
vaccines as *Tuna of the consumer polluted seas* sandwiches and *TV time 
Kilowatts* from the coal fired power plants that polluted them with more 
and more mercury as demand for electricity skyrockets, as actually 
containable radioactive waste is yet another public target, preventing the 
moth balling of the coal plants with their *un-containable* byproducts.


 It means they've responded to public outcry, warranted or not, in a 
measured sane manner...dodging the bullets without a big  fight, no matter 
if well aimed or not.
That adding ANY load to an existing one isn't necessary if there are 
alternatives and *no reason* is a *good enough reason* to go to the 
alternatives ASAP if it comforts the public... be that public right or 
wrong. [Doesn't matter any more, issue side stepped and made a moot point. ]
and now we can see if the Autism numbers go down [and be very quiet 
about it ...if they don't, then pick another target out of the 
thousands of possibilities, so long as it's *them* being shot at and not 
*us*. ]


Shall we try, "watching endless hours of cartoons on TV" causes Autism?
Electron gun scan line rate photon emission frequency based selective epilepsy?
Don't Alzheimers people like watching cartoons?.causing aluminum 
retention in brain matter too old to hold more power plant mercury? [ 
double whammy amalgam mind ? ]


 THAT'S IT!

"Don't touch that dial!"
Get the baseball bats!  Grab those Alcoa frying pans!
Disney World, here we come!

Ode



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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Kurt Milkowski]

Kind of like when they told us terrorists were responsible for 9/11.
   
  Kurt

Scott  wrote:
  They want people to keep their faith in the pharmaceutical industry. I really 
am skeptical as to whether they took the mercury out at all. If they did, they 
definitely will put it back in. The biggest things they want from the public is 
their money and their trust. We are such a gullible society that we will give 
them both without even questioning them. Go figure. So I think you answered 
your own question.

Dianne France  wrote:  In Prevention 
magazine, October 2007, they had this article " Fear: Mercury Fact:  A few 
years back researchers raised the concern that people (especially babies) might 
accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative 
that consists largely of the metal.  To be on the safe side, thimerosal was 
removed from many pediatric vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that 
the form of mercury found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build up 
in the body."
   
  I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe would be 
none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it back?
   
  Dianne



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Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Kurt Milkowski]

This means if you believe this lie, we can tell you another one.
   
  Kurt

Dianne France  wrote:
  In Prevention magazine, October 2007, they had this article " Fear: 
Mercury Fact:  A few years back researchers raised the concern that people 
(especially babies) might accumulate a toxic dose of mercury, from thimerosal, 
a vaccine preservative that consists largely of the metal.  To be on the safe 
side, thimerosal was removed from many pediatric vaccines.  But since then, 
studies have shown that the form of mercury found in the preservative, athyl 
mercury, does not build up in the body."
   
  I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe would be 
none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it back?
   
  Dianne

Re: CS>cs: Article "Put Vaccine Fears to Rest"

[Scott]

They want people to keep their faith in the pharmaceutical industry. I really 
am skeptical as to whether they took the mercury out at all. If they did, they 
definitely will put it back in. The biggest things they want from the public is 
their money and their trust. We are such a gullible society that we will give 
them both without even questioning them. Go figure. So I think you answered 
your own question.

Dianne France  wrote:   In Prevention magazine, 
October 2007, they had this  article " Fear: Mercury Fact:  A few years back 
researchers  raised the concern that people (especially babies) might 
accumulate a toxic dose  of mercury, from thimerosal, a vaccine preservative 
that consists largely of the  metal.  To be on the safe side, thimerosal was 
removed from many pediatric  vaccines.  But since then, studies have shown that 
the form of mercury  found in the preservative, athyl mercury, does not build 
up in the  body."
  
 I guess they are trying to convince us that mercury is okay.  Safe  would be 
none.  Does this mean they removed it but plan on putting it  back?
  
 Dianne



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