Re: CS>Odd Silver Puppy behavior

2015-12-30 Thread Ode Coyote
It actually seems to be working correctly except the signal that tells the
yellow LED what to do is telling it to stay on rather than turn off. [like
getting a zero rather than a one]
Is it possible for a programmer to glitch and not detect the difference?
..or maybe a tiny solder ball rolled into an I/O pinor...a cold solder
joint disconnected...or

Be glad to replace it.

Ode

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jerry Durand 
wrote:

> H, did it again.  I left it running overnight with only +1 hour set.
> This morning the yellow light was on solid, colored LED off.
>
> I unplugged it, removed it from the CS, plugged it back in and put it
> back.  Green light.  Clicked the button, yellow came on.  Now the yellow is
> flashing one as it should.
>
> Since it went into overtime quickly, I assume it was done and messed up
> either in the handoff to overtime or the shutdown.
>
> Anything I can test on this?  I have a full electronics bench with SMT
> capability.
>
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> tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886
>
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Re: CS>Odd Silver Puppy behavior

2015-12-30 Thread Jerry Durand
I'll pop the hood today and have a look around, any bad joints, bridges,
balls are all easy to fix.

On 12/30/2015 03:58 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> It actually seems to be working correctly except the signal that tells
> the yellow LED what to do is telling it to stay on rather than turn
> off. [like getting a zero rather than a one]
> Is it possible for a programmer to glitch and not detect the difference?
> ..or maybe a tiny solder ball rolled into an I/O pinor...a cold
> solder joint disconnected...or
>
> Be glad to replace it.
>
> Ode
>

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tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886



Re: CS>Odd Silver Puppy behavior

2015-12-30 Thread Jerry Durand
I've buttoned it up, will let you know if I have any further problems.

Inspection report:

I found a couple of solder balls but they were stock solid in the flux
on the back of the board.  I removed them.

I found one surface mount joint with minimal solder but it looks
connected ok so I left it since it would be hard to get at (on the
bridge rectifier).

The rest of the joints look fine, no solder balls on top of the board.


Notes:

I reassembled it with some polyimide tape (Kapton(tm)) under the two
screw heads over in the analog part in case they were causing problems.

It looks like you use rosin core solder for the through-hole parts,
since that's a natural organic product it can cause some issues as it
ages.  A good "no-clean" flux is engineered to not cause any issues
(corrosion or high impedance shorts).  After running into a flux issue
on one product I switched to Kester SN96.5AG3CU.5 with 275 no-clean
flux.  Since this is close to $100 a spool now we're experimenting with
silver-free solder, SN99.3CU0.7 by MG Chemicals since it's half the price.


On 12/30/2015 09:03 AM, Jerry Durand wrote:
> I'll pop the hood today and have a look around, any bad joints,
> bridges, balls are all easy to fix.

-- 
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.  www.interstellar.com
tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886