Re: [Simh] VAX 8200

[Dan Gahlinger]

Doesn't ODS2 tool work with these?



From: Simh  on behalf of Bob Eager 

Sent: March 20, 2017 4:25 PM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: Re: [Simh] VAX 8200

That is correct. The 360kB drives are only 40 track. The 1.2MB drives
are 80 track.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:53:57 -0600
khandy21yo  wrote:

> I think  you need 1.2M floppy drives for this. I seem to remember
> THAT 360k drives don't work for reading RX50s.
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Paul Koning
>  Date: 3/20/17  6:45 AM  (GMT-07:00) To:
> Ethan Dicks  Cc: SIMH 
> Subject: Re: [Simh] VAX 8200
>
> > On Mar 19, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Ethan Dicks 
> > wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > I have a number of ways to read RX50s, but nothing is presently set
> > up and plugged in for that.  I'll have to dust something off and
> > get it going.
>
> PCs can read RX50s if you have a 5.25 inch drive.  DOS, or old enough
> versions of Windows that you can issue BIOS calls work.  On Linux,
> you can set the floppy parameters to 80 tracks, 10 sectors, single
> sided, and then standard utilities like dd will work.  If you have a
> floppy image you may need to process the interleaving to get to an
> image other file system utilities will handle.
>
> My FLX utility (on my Subversion server or in simhtools) can do
> this.  I have a newer version in Python that can be used as a
> library, and includes an interleave/de-interleave tool.
>
>paul
>
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Re: [Simh] RSTS/E V9.6 Date Patch (New Thread, RSTS PreBuilt Kits).

[Timothe Litt]

Even >I< didn't expect me to look, but I did (and surprisingly, I
remember PDP-11 opcodes):

044050  000176  00  ? 20027 ; cmp r0,#124
044050  000200  00  ? 126

Er, either the comment or the patch is wrong.  124 /= 126, even in octal :-)


On 20-Mar-17 18:00, Brett Bump wrote:
>
> Ten (10) years later. ;-)  Sorry, too much VAX 8200 posting, thought I
> would put up a new (old) topic.  Bob, I used Thord's patch on three (3)
> PreBuilt kits that I hung on Rsts.org.  Anyone interested in a PreBuilt
> RSTS Kit can go grab a zip file, start simh and be up and running in a
> few seconds.  I also merged some of my V4A paper tape distro with some
> of the DecTape distro on BitSavers and got a valid sysgen of V4A going.
>
> http://www.rsts.org/autoindex.php?dir=distros/Rsts_kits/
>
> RSTS V7.0 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).
> RSTS V7.2 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).
> RSTS V8.0 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).
>
> Minimum installs (Just enough to be comfy, but full distro via tape).
> Guess I like to run RSTS in QRP mode. ;-)
>
> Anyone wanting to just drive through history without pulling down a kit
> can telnet to running copies of the same kits that are running here:
>
> Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 81 Rsts V4A
> Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 82 Rsts V4B
> Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 83 Rsts V7.0
> Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 84 Rsts V7.2
> Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 85 Rsts V8.0
>
> All systems have the same accounts, User: 100,100 Password: DEMO
> is open to the public.
>
> When I get some time next month, I will try to put up some V9+ kits.
>
> 73s,
>
> Brett
>
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:
>
>> Just as an FYI for those running RSTS/E V9.6 or planning to, I created a
>> patch several years ago to support Y2K+ dates based on Thord Nilson's
>> V9.2 patch.  I am posting it here and it can also be found by doing a
>> groups.google.com search for "date96.cmd".
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> -- Begin --
>>
>> ! DATE96.CMD - INIT.SYS patch for Y2K. Valid for INIT.SYS
>> !distributed with RSTS/E V9.6-11
>> !
>> !   First part is to be able to accept dates after 31-DEC-99,
>> !   Second part is to be able to print these dates.
>> !
>> !   Robert G. Schaffrath 26-MAR-04
>> !   Based on DATE92.CMD by Thord Nilson 22-MAY-00
>> !
>> File to patch?  [0,1]init.sys
>> Base address? ckdate
>> Offset address? 160
>> Base   Offset  Old New?
>> 021764  000160  020027  ? 4737  ; jsr pc, @#patch+176
>> 021764  000162  000126  ? patch+176
>> 021764  000164  103667  ? nop
>> 021764  000166  162700  ? ^Z
>> Offset address? ^Z
>> Base address? patch
>> Offset address? 176
>> Base   Offset  Old New?
>> 044050  000176  00  ? 20027 ; cmp r0,#124
>> 044050  000200  00  ? 126
>> 044050  000202  00  ? 103002; bhis ok
>> 044050  000204  00  ? 62700 ; add #100.,r0
>> 044050  000206  00  ? 144
>> 044050  000210  00  ? 207   ; ok: rts pc
>> 044050  000212  00  ? ^Z
>> Offset address? ^Z
>> Base address? datini
>> Offset address? 556
>> Base   Offset  Old New?
>> 020762  000556  020027  ? 4737  ; jsr pc, @#patch+162
>> 020762  000560  35  ? patch+162
>> 020762  000562  101027  ? nop
>> 020762  000564  062700  ? ^Z
>> Offset address? ^Z
>> Base address? patch
>> Offset address? 162
>> Base   Offset  Old New?
>> 044050  000162  00  ? 20027 ; cmp r0,#35
>> 044050  000164  00  ? 35
>> 044050  000166  00  ? 101402; blos ok
>> 044050  000170  00  ? 162700; sub #100.,r0
>> 044050  000172  00  ? 144
>> 044050  000174  00  ? 207   ; ok: rts pc
>> 044050  000176  020027  ? ^Z
>> Offset address? ^Z
>> Base address? ^Z
>> File to patch? ^C
>>

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Re: [Simh] RSTS/E V9.6 Date Patch (New Thread, RSTS PreBuilt Kits).

[Brett Bump]

Ten (10) years later. ;-)  Sorry, too much VAX 8200 posting, thought I
would put up a new (old) topic.  Bob, I used Thord's patch on three (3)
PreBuilt kits that I hung on Rsts.org.  Anyone interested in a PreBuilt
RSTS Kit can go grab a zip file, start simh and be up and running in a
few seconds.  I also merged some of my V4A paper tape distro with some
of the DecTape distro on BitSavers and got a valid sysgen of V4A going.

http://www.rsts.org/autoindex.php?dir=distros/Rsts_kits/

RSTS V7.0 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).
RSTS V7.2 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).
RSTS V8.0 (Thord Date Patch, Paul FIG-Forth RTS, My Custom,Notes RTS).

Minimum installs (Just enough to be comfy, but full distro via tape).
Guess I like to run RSTS in QRP mode. ;-)

Anyone wanting to just drive through history without pulling down a kit
can telnet to running copies of the same kits that are running here:

Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 81 Rsts V4A
Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 82 Rsts V4B
Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 83 Rsts V7.0
Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 84 Rsts V7.2
Telnet www.Rsts.org Port 85 Rsts V8.0

All systems have the same accounts, User: 100,100 Password: DEMO
is open to the public.

When I get some time next month, I will try to put up some V9+ kits.

73s,

Brett

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:


Just as an FYI for those running RSTS/E V9.6 or planning to, I created a
patch several years ago to support Y2K+ dates based on Thord Nilson's
V9.2 patch.  I am posting it here and it can also be found by doing a
groups.google.com search for "date96.cmd".

Robert

-- Begin --

! DATE96.CMD - INIT.SYS patch for Y2K. Valid for INIT.SYS
!distributed with RSTS/E V9.6-11
!
!   First part is to be able to accept dates after 31-DEC-99,
!   Second part is to be able to print these dates.
!
!   Robert G. Schaffrath 26-MAR-04
!   Based on DATE92.CMD by Thord Nilson 22-MAY-00
!
File to patch?  [0,1]init.sys
Base address? ckdate
Offset address? 160
Base   Offset  Old New?
021764  000160  020027  ? 4737  ; jsr pc, @#patch+176
021764  000162  000126  ? patch+176
021764  000164  103667  ? nop
021764  000166  162700  ? ^Z
Offset address? ^Z
Base address? patch
Offset address? 176
Base   Offset  Old New?
044050  000176  00  ? 20027 ; cmp r0,#124
044050  000200  00  ? 126
044050  000202  00  ? 103002; bhis ok
044050  000204  00  ? 62700 ; add #100.,r0
044050  000206  00  ? 144
044050  000210  00  ? 207   ; ok: rts pc
044050  000212  00  ? ^Z
Offset address? ^Z
Base address? datini
Offset address? 556
Base   Offset  Old New?
020762  000556  020027  ? 4737  ; jsr pc, @#patch+162
020762  000560  35  ? patch+162
020762  000562  101027  ? nop
020762  000564  062700  ? ^Z
Offset address? ^Z
Base address? patch
Offset address? 162
Base   Offset  Old New?
044050  000162  00  ? 20027 ; cmp r0,#35
044050  000164  00  ? 35
044050  000166  00  ? 101402; blos ok
044050  000170  00  ? 162700; sub #100.,r0
044050  000172  00  ? 144
044050  000174  00  ? 207   ; ok: rts pc
044050  000176  020027  ? ^Z
Offset address? ^Z
Base address? ^Z
File to patch? ^C

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Re: [Simh] VAX 8200

[Bob Eager]

That is correct. The 360kB drives are only 40 track. The 1.2MB drives
are 80 track.

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:53:57 -0600
khandy21yo  wrote:

> I think  you need 1.2M floppy drives for this. I seem to remember
> THAT 360k drives don't work for reading RX50s.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Paul Koning
>  Date: 3/20/17  6:45 AM  (GMT-07:00) To:
> Ethan Dicks  Cc: SIMH 
> Subject: Re: [Simh] VAX 8200 
> 
> > On Mar 19, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Ethan Dicks 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > I have a number of ways to read RX50s, but nothing is presently set
> > up and plugged in for that.  I'll have to dust something off and
> > get it going.
> 
> PCs can read RX50s if you have a 5.25 inch drive.  DOS, or old enough
> versions of Windows that you can issue BIOS calls work.  On Linux,
> you can set the floppy parameters to 80 tracks, 10 sectors, single
> sided, and then standard utilities like dd will work.  If you have a
> floppy image you may need to process the interleaving to get to an
> image other file system utilities will handle.
> 
> My FLX utility (on my Subversion server or in simhtools) can do
> this.  I have a newer version in Python that can be used as a
> library, and includes an interleave/de-interleave tool.
> 
>   paul
> 
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Re: [Simh] VAX 8200

[khandy21yo]

I think  you need 1.2M floppy drives for this. I seem to remember THAT 360k 
drives don't work for reading RX50s.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Paul Koning  
Date: 3/20/17  6:45 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: Ethan Dicks  Cc: 
SIMH  Subject: Re: [Simh] VAX 8200 

> On Mar 19, 2017, at 11:33 PM, Ethan Dicks  wrote:
> 
> ...
> I have a number of ways to read RX50s, but nothing is presently set up
> and plugged in for that.  I'll have to dust something off and get it
> going.

PCs can read RX50s if you have a 5.25 inch drive.  DOS, or old enough versions 
of Windows that you can issue BIOS calls work.  On Linux, you can set the 
floppy parameters to 80 tracks, 10 sectors, single sided, and then standard 
utilities like dd will work.  If you have a floppy image you may need to 
process the interleaving to get to an image other file system utilities will 
handle.

My FLX utility (on my Subversion server or in simhtools) can do this.  I have a 
newer version in Python that can be used as a library, and includes an 
interleave/de-interleave tool.

paul

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Re: [Simh] VAX 8200

[Ethan Dicks]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 8:45 AM, Paul Koning  wrote:
>> I have a number of ways to read RX50s, but nothing is presently set up...
>
> PCs can read RX50s if you have a 5.25 inch drive.  DOS, or old enough 
> versions of Windows that you can issue BIOS calls work.

I have a DOS 486 I used to use for this.  Its VLB I/O card toasted a
while back and I haven't replaced it/rebuilt the box.  One future plan
for this box is to add an 8" drive to it.

>  On Linux, you can set the floppy parameters to 80 tracks, 10 sectors, single 
> sided, and then standard utilities
> like dd will work.

I'm mostly running from laptops these days (my primary two boxes are a
MacBook Pro w/OS X, and a Dell Laptop w/Linux Mint).  I have zero
desktop boxes set up and running with any floppy drives.

As I said, I have to dust something off.  Right now, the shortest path
is plugging in a MicroPDP-11 and using vtserver.

-ethan
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Re: [Simh] How to access RT11/FIles11 floppy images on Windows?

[Tim Stark]

John,

Ok, I installed OSXFuse v3.5.5 and disk11fs 0.8.3 on macOS 10.12.3 successfully 
but... 

I tried to mount my RT11 and Files11 disks but they did not work. I was told 
that it can't mount that disk image. 

When I select file.dsk, loading icon displayed forever.  I clicked 'choose' and 
MountDisk11.app immediately displayed popup said that can't mount.

Tim

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dun...@caltech.edu
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:13 PM
To: simh@trailing-edge.com
Subject: Re: [Simh] How to access RT11/FIles11 floppy images on Windows?

> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 11:32:46 -0400
> From: "Tim Stark" 
> To: 
> Subject: [Simh] How to access RT11/FIles11 floppy images on Windows?
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> I googled and found PUTR utility but it is for PC-DOS systems only.   Does
> anyone know similar utility to access RT-11 and Files-11 floppy images 
> for file extracts for other platforms (Windows, Linux, and OS X)?

For OS X, you could give my program a try.



It's still early in development, but can handle RT-11 R/W, Files-11 (ODS-1, not 
ODS-2), RSTS (RDS-*), DOS, XXDP, all R/O.

Paul has a utility that handles RSTS R/W.

John

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