Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
I found an even better solution to keeping Skim.app in the background. Rather than switching back to the Terminal after skim updates, one can: open -g -a /Applications/Skim.app $1 The manual page for open says: -g Do not bring the application to the foreground. This way one can continue editing LaTeX, a postscript program or a program that makes a postscript program (! such as a sequence logo http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/glossary.html#sequence_logo) without any loss of focus on the Terminal. The work flow is that I write out the graphic source file from vim with a single comma ('map , :w^M' in ~/.vimrc). This awakens atchange, http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms/atchange.html to run a script which creates the pdf and then opens skim as above. Skim refreshes. The result is a very smooth display with editor and result on one screen. I do not touch the mouse. I just edit and hit a comma when I want it to update the display. Thanks to the skim developers for making this possible. Tom Thomas D. Schneider, Ph.D. National Institutes of Health National Cancer Institute Gene Regulation and Chromosome Biology Laboratory Molecular Information Theory Group Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 http://alum.mit.edu/www/toms (permanent) -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
Hi, Christiaan I can do that, though of course it's also very simple to do it yourself by deleting a single line. After I posted about displayline with additional option, I found same item in the tracker. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=1963451group_id=192583atid=941984 I think control of window activation is a factor to make user easier. So, I believe there is some demand of the background option -g for displayline. As you say, it is very easy to delete the line. But, command line option seems to be more natural for this feature. Thanks, Ryohei Seto -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
Hi, I knew that people are interested in background behavior. Actually I like OSX, that the background operation is well considered. Concerning to the topic, I found tiny UI conflict. When an application is on the background, it accepts scrolling by option key + scroll wheel/ball . Skim.app can do, of cause. But, when Skim is active, same operation changes the zoom. I wonder option key + scroll wheel/ball should be reserved for the background control. command maybe better than option. (like Omni Graffle) Thanks, Ryohei Seto -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
On Jan 12, 2011, at 17:36, Ryohei SETO wrote: Hi, I knew that people are interested in background behavior. Actually I like OSX, that the background operation is well considered. Concerning to the topic, I found tiny UI conflict. When an application is on the background, it accepts scrolling by option key + scroll wheel/ball . Skim.app can do, of cause. But, when Skim is active, same operation changes the zoom. I wonder option key + scroll wheel/ball should be reserved for the background control. command maybe better than option. (like Omni Graffle) Thanks, Ryohei Seto Why do you need the Option key? The scroll wheels scrolls the view below the cursor (if that view accepts the action, which is true for PDFView), no matter whether it's in the foreground or the background. At least, this is how it behaves for me on 10.6.6. Christiaan -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
Why do you need the Option key? The scroll wheels scrolls the view below the cursor (if that view accepts the action, which is true for PDFView), no matter whether it's in the foreground or the background. At least, this is how it behaves for me on 10.6.6. I'm sorry, I was just confused. (We can drag the scroll bar with command key...) Thanks Ryohei Seto -- Protect Your Site and Customers from Malware Attacks Learn about various malware tactics and how to avoid them. Understand malware threats, the impact they can have on your business, and how you can protect your company and customers by using code signing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
Hi, Of course this would not help Patrik, because Aquamacs uses its own script. I think -g may help the third one, if I'm not misunderstanding. It allows to keep focus on Emacs, but update pdf by displayline command. For AUCTeX, one can add the option -g by (setq TeX-view-program-selection '((output-pdf Skim))) (setq TeX-view-program-list '((Skim /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/displayline -g %n %o %b))) Ryohei Seto -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
Re: [Skim-app-users] displayline for keeping Skim.app to the background
I solved the issue in Aquamacs by changing the AppleScript that Aquamacs uses to tell Skim to display the line. Simply removing activate from the script in aquamacs-call-viewer in auctex-config.el makes Skim update without getting focus. cheers, /Patrik On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Ryohei SETO setoryo...@me.com wrote: Hi, Of course this would not help Patrik, because Aquamacs uses its own script. I think -g may help the third one, if I'm not misunderstanding. It allows to keep focus on Emacs, but update pdf by displayline command. For AUCTeX, one can add the option -g by (setq TeX-view-program-selection '((output-pdf Skim))) (setq TeX-view-program-list '((Skim /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/displayline -g %n %o %b))) Ryohei Seto -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users -- Gaining the trust of online customers is vital for the success of any company that requires sensitive data to be transmitted over the Web. Learn how to best implement a security strategy that keeps consumers' information secure and instills the confidence they need to proceed with transactions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users