[SLUG] Kernel (modem) prob

2001-05-09 Thread Robert Smith

Hi
I can't get my copy of RedHat 7 to compile a new image so as to run my
modem. I even tryed a new install then without adding/removing a thing
did a 'make menuconfig (OK), make dep (OK), make clean (OK), make
bzImage (FAIL). I then downloaded some new Kernals to try to compile, I
DL 2.2.18 , 2.4.1 and 2.4.3... 2.2.18 compiled ok after making a fue
changes but toled me that I had a PS/2 mouse (I don't) and when I ran
the mouse config set it to generic mouse on ttyS0 it refused to work (
also changed in X). 2.4.13 wheren't any good at all they had nuthing in
the config menu at all.
this whole proses was to get my modem to work.
I'll start by saying that I am trying to use a 'LinModem' I know I know
I know but I am unlucky enuf to have a PCTel modem (thats HSP to those
in the know) you know a WinModem. I have the latest driver mods, have
followed the steps and no joy. can someone help?
Please no LOL's
Robert S


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[SLUG] Strange behaviour of vim within mutt

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Lake

Hi All,

When using mutt I have set the editor to vim but the keymappings are wrong.
The up arrow key when pressed opens the line above and inserts an 'A' though
sometimes a D or C on that new blank line. if I hit escape before the arrow
key then its fine the cursor moves up ie the problem occurs during insert
mode. The problem does not occur when using vim outside of mutt.
Similarly the down arrow key will give me a 'B' on a new line opened up
below the current line.

The only mention of vim is where I set that to be the editor:
set editor=vim -c 'set tw=76 expandtab'

I can't see any key bindings in muttrc that would cause this.

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[SLUG] Anybody home ?

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Eager

Hi,

Is there anybody there or have I stuffed up my mail system (newly 
installed) ?

PS:  Didn't know that postfix used procmail.  Does procmail work ok if 
it has no procmailrc file ?  (Ie does it have a nice simple 'send 
everything' default ?)

Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] Killing a mount

2001-05-09 Thread Jon Carnes

On Sunday 06 May 2001 17:01, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 How do you kill an NFS mount that won't mount; kill -9 won't touch it.

On my RedHat boxen I use:
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/netfs stop

Jon

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[SLUG] Video

2001-05-09 Thread Alan L Tyree

Hi,
I have recently acquired a digital videocam and want to do some
capture/editing.

I have the VCR-HOWTO that seems to give basic capture info, but it
seems to me that that must be analogue signals.

Anything special I need to know to do some basic editing, etc? What
connections and software am I looking for?

Also grateful for any info on sending video images to US relos that
need to see it on NTSC systems.

Thanks,
Alan

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[SLUG] outlook calender contacts substitute

2001-05-09 Thread Alister Waller


Hi,

Is there a substitute for using outlooks email, calender and contacts etc
that would run on a windows PC but use a central linux server to hold the
shared data?

In other words a nice (windows) client and linux server email/calender and
contacts solution.

We cannot change the workstations over to Linux.

regards


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Re: [SLUG] question... multiboot etc.

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Eager

Michael wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Its come to the point where I require to rebuild my personal
 workstation. I was thinking of having the following setup. Just wanted to
 run it by a few of you for comments.
 
 hda
 windows98 (primary Xmb's)
 windows200 pro (primary Xmb's)
 
 hdab
 linux
 
 hdc
 cdrom

OK, I'll throw my bit in.  This is actually something that all (6 in 
total) of my machines do.  If you want to keep 3 different OS's on the 
one boot disk, all in primary partitions I reackon this is the way to go:

   hda1- Partition magic (or equivalent boot manager)
   hda2- OS 1  (QNX)
   hda3- OS 2  (DOS / WIN)
   hda4- OS 3  (Linux - can be split into logical drives; hda5 
/boot, hda6 / )

hdb, hdc etc do with as you like.

While it wastes one primary partition (with only 1 cylinder needed on 
that partition) it does quite nicely ensure that only 1 primary 
partition is available to the system at boot.  In addition, you can use 
lilo as well as long as it is installed on the 'first sector of boot 
partition' and NOT  the MBR.

Partition magic can also be used to boot from a partion on hdb,

Sounds like a plug for Partition magic, but I actually discovered it 
while installing OS/2.  It is now the only thing from OS/2 that I use.

Regards,

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[SLUG] Attn Michael Lake

2001-05-09 Thread Howard Lowndes

Apologies to the rest of the list, but Michael, please check your email
address.  This one is bouncing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (reason: 550 Invalid recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED])

- Transcript of session follows -
 ... while talking to postoffice.uts.edu.au.:
  RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  550 Invalid recipient [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 550 5.1.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown

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RE: [SLUG] configuring diald

2001-05-09 Thread Jim Hague

On 07-May-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When dialling one of those ISPs that start ppp automatically,
 what do you put in /etc/diald/connect - noauth or what?

The following connect script did the trick for me. It just initialises the
modem, dials the number and makes sure the call is answered by a modem.

You then need to put your login info in /etc/ppp/(ch|p)ap-secrets as someone
else has already described.

#!/bin/sh
#
# This script is hacked from an example provided with the most excellent
# diald.
#
# Copyright (c) 1996, Eric Schenk.
#
# This script is intended to give an example of a connection script that
# uses the message facility of diald to communicate progress through
# the dialing process to a diald monitoring program such as dctrl or diald-top.
# It also reports progress to the system logs. This can be useful if you
# are seeing failed attempts to connect and you want to know when and why
# they are failing.
#
# This script requires the use of chat-1.9 or greater for full
# functionality. It should work with older versions of chat,
# but it will not be able to report the reason for a connection failure.

# Configuration parameters

# The initialization string for your modem
# MODEM_INIT=ATZL0C1D2%C0
MODEM_INIT=ATZ
MODEM_INIT2=ATM0L0C1D2%C0W1

# The phone number to dial
PHONE_NUMBER=08005190100
#PHONE_NUMBER=08005190150

# The chat sequence to recognize that the remote system
# is asking for your user name.
#USER_CHAT_SEQ=

# The string to send in response to the request for your user name.
#USER_NAME=

# The chat sequence to recongnize that the remote system
# is asking for your password.
#PASSWD_CHAT_SEQ=

# The string to send in response to the request for your password.
#PASSWORD=

# The prompt the remote system gives to indicate it will dial back.
#DIALBACK=

# The prompt the remote system will give once you are logged in
# If you do not define this then the script will assume that
# there is no command to be issued to start up the remote protocol.
#PROMPT=ocol:

# The command to issue to start up the remote protocol. If this
# is defined, issue it even if PROMPT is not defined.
#PROTOCOL_START=slip

# The string to wait for to see that the protocol on the remote
# end started OK. If this is empty then no check will be performed.
#START_ACK=Switching to PPP.
#START_ACK=HELLO

# The chat command. chat -v logs the chatting to the syslog.
CHAT=/usr/sbin/chat -v
# CHAT=chat

# Pass a message on to diald and the system logs.
function message () {
[ $FIFO ]  echo message $* $FIFO
logger -p local2.info -t connect $*
}

# Initialize the modem. Usually this just resets it.
message Initializing Modem
$CHAT TIMEOUT 5  $MODEM_INIT TIMEOUT 45 OK \c
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
message Failed to initialize modem
exit 1
fi
$CHAT TIMEOUT 5  $MODEM_INIT2 TIMEOUT 45 OK \c
if [ $? != 0 ]; then
message Failed to initialize modem(2)
exit 1
fi

# Dial the remote system.

message Dialing system
$CHAT \
TIMEOUT 90 \
ABORT NO CARRIER \
ABORT BUSY \
ABORT NO DIALTONE \
ABORT ERROR \
 ATDT$PHONE_NUMBER \
CONNECT \c
case $? in
   0) message Connected;;
   1) message Chat Error; exit 1;;
   2) message Chat Script Error; exit 1;;
   3) message Chat Timeout; exit 1;;
   4) message No Carrier; exit 1;;
   5) message Busy; exit 1;;
   6) message No DialTone; exit 1;;
   7) message Modem Error; exit 1;;
   *)
esac

# Success!
message Protocol starting




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Re: [SLUG] Kernel development information

2001-05-09 Thread Conrad Parker

On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 12:53:22PM +1000, Andrew Eager wrote:
 
 a)  Any (local) user groups that specialise in kernel work (no offence 
 to sluggers)

[I don't know of any]

we've been talking about a general programming SIG in SLUG for a while, and
recently this need has been met with the recent Codefest (by SLUG and UNSW
Compsoc) and also next weekend's Linuxfest (by UNSW Compsoc).

If you want to do anything more specialised or just different, SLUG could
probably provide some resources [arranging rooms, facilities, munchies etc].
Please let the committe know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you're interested in
running something like this.

By all means, come to the Linuxfest on the 19th and we can chat about it
and also do some hacking there :) 

http://www.compsoc.cse.unsw.edu.au/article.php?sid=47

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[SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Michael Lake

Hi guys,

Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that. Have searched slug
archives for that with keywords mutt, quote, sig but can't find it. Can't
search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,  the 
UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 

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Re: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-09 Thread Crossfire

Adam F. Bogacki was once rumoured to have said:
 Thanks, C.
 
   I followed your advice in  going into the - I agree - cruddy RH7 LILO
 graphic, using control-x to get into interactive login and typing 'linux
 single'. It told me there were duplicate/bad blocks in /dev/hdb1 which
 were fixable via fsck. I ran 'e2fsck -y /dev/hdb1' to fix that problem and
 continued with the boot sequence - only to end up at the same unstable
 situation I have described before.

Yes, and that is just a red herring to your real problem.

Boot single again, and play on your file systems.

Like I said, something is causing your X server to fail which causes
gdm to go into a loop.  Fix that whilst booted single, and you'll fix
your problem - I can't tell you why your X server is broken, but
reading the logs that gdm generates will give you a good start.
 
   I think my options are to continue with setting up the 'tomsrtbt' disk
 mentioned by Ken in an effort to boot via disk, mount file systems to have a
 look at them to see what is wrong and try to fix it - otherwise to install a
 new system. In my case that will probably be Debian.

Nup - like I said, not necessary.  Toms RootBoot is the wrong thing in
this situation.

C.
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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:15:59PM +1000, Michael Lake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
 muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
 remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that. Have searched slug
 archives for that with keywords mutt, quote, sig but can't find it. Can't
 search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,  the 
 UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 

here's another solution:

make a .signature file like this:

%QUOTE%
put whatever you like here what needs to be STATIC.



then make a file called .signature.quotes, add as many as you
like separated by a line. Note the last line must not have
a carriage return.

Student to Teacher: Sir, what's an oxymoron?Teacher to Student: Microsoft security.

If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?

Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites?



then make a script called .signature.pl

#!/usr/bin/perl
if($#ARGV lt 0 or $#ARGV gt 2) {
  print Usage: $^X sigfile [quotefile]\n;
  exit 1;
}
# determine the quote
if ($#ARGV eq 1) {
  open (FI, $ARGV[1]) or die Can't open $ARGV[1];
  # count the quotes
  $sig[0] = 0;
  while(FI) 
  { 
  $sig[$#sig + 1] = tell if /^$/; 
  }
  # read one
  srand;
  seek(FI, $sig[int rand ($#sig + .)], SEEK_SET) or die Can't seek;
  # seek(FI, $sig[0], SEEK_SET) or die Can't seek;
  $msg = FI;
  while (FI) {
  last if /^$/;
  $msg .= $_;
  }
}
open (SIG, $ARGV[0]) or die Can't open $ARGV[0];
while (SIG) {
  $_ =~ s/%QUOTE%/$msg/; 
  print $_;
}



in your .muttrc you place the following line:
---
set signature = /PATHTOYOURHOMEDIRECTORY/.signature.pl ~/.signatureforquotes 
~/.signature.quotes|
---


and from then one you signature will change automaperly!

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Re: [SLUG] Anybody home ?

2001-05-09 Thread Dave Fitch

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:03:01PM +1000, Andrew Eager wrote:
 Is there anybody there or have I stuffed up my mail system (newly 
 installed) ?

last night it appeared to be a routing loop inside uts...
 
 PS:  Didn't know that postfix used procmail.  Does procmail work ok if 
 it has no procmailrc file ?  (Ie does it have a nice simple 'send 
 everything' default ?)

yes (exactly as you described).

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Re: [SLUG] Anybody home ?

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Lake

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:03:01PM +1000, Andrew Eager wrote:
 Hi,
 PS:  Didn't know that postfix used procmail.  Does procmail work ok if 
 it has no procmailrc file ?  (Ie does it have a nice simple 'send 
 everything' default ?)

The man procmail says

   line arguments are present, it starts to look for  a  file
   named  $HOME/.procmailrc.   According  to  the  processing
   recipes in this file, the mail message that  just  arrived
   gets  distributed into the right folder (and more).  If no
   rcfile is found, or processing of the rcfile falls off the
   end,  procmail  will  store the mail in the default system
   mailbox.

   If no rcfiles and no -p have been specified on the command
   line,  procmail  will, prior to reading $HOME/.procmailrc,
   interpret  commands  from  /etc/procmailrc  (if  present).

When installed on Debian it did not come with an /etc/procmailrc 
so if you dont have a personal .procmailrc file then my understanding of the
above is that it should deliver to the normal /var/spool/mail/$USER
or whatever the default mail spool file is.

Best though is give it a test. Send some mail and see where it ends up.

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 04:45:26PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
 here's another solution:
 
 make a .signature file like this:
 
 %QUOTE%
 put whatever you like here what needs to be STATIC.
 
 
 
 then make a file called .signature.quotes, add as many as you
 like separated by a line. Note the last line must not have
 a carriage return.
 
 Student to Teacher: Sir, what's an oxymoron?Teacher to Student: Microsoft 
security.
 
 If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular?
 
 Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites?
 
 
 
 then make a script called .signature.pl
 
[... long perl script deleted ...]

This is very much in the 'me too' vein, but I get the same effect from
a ten line shell script (and that's a blank line included in the count).
Of course, it wins no prizes in the immediately obvious how it works
category. :-)

--
#! /bin/sh
# The next line has a newline immediately after the quote.
IFS='
'
sigfile=/home/malcolm/Mail/signature-lines
lines=($(cat $sigfile))
length=$(wc -l  $sigfile)

echo static stuff goes here ...
echo ${lines[$(($RANDOM % $length))]}
--

So who said Perl was only for writing short unintelligible scripts?
Looks like you can write long unintelligible scripts with it as well.
:-)

/me runs for cover.

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Video

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Collins

Alan L Tyree wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have recently acquired a digital videocam and want to do some
 capture/editing.

Firewire card. I don't know anything more than that or whether it is
supported under linux yet.
 
 I have the VCR-HOWTO that seems to give basic capture info, but it
 seems to me that that must be analogue signals.

see comment below.
 
 Anything special I need to know to do some basic editing, etc? What
 connections and software am I looking for?

Broadcast 2000 seems to be the only stuff. Search around or in the Slug
archive.

aah - http://freshmeat.net/projects/broadcast2000/


Caveat - I don't do this, just had a very bad, recent experience fixing
up a Win98 installation with a digital videocam. It all seemed so
logical to him to just upgrade when the analogue camera broke - he now
knows what bleeding edge means {:-)

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[SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-09 Thread Dave Fitch

while there's a spate of mutt questions...
how can I set a different outgoing email address for
different mailing lists?

I use mutt and have each list in a different mail file.
Mutt supposedly sets my From: address and
other headers (like Reply-To: etc) but postfix writes
a From header (set in the canonical file) onto
outgoing emails also, otherwise people get to see two
different email addresses for me.

Ta,
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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Lake

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 04:45:26PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:15:59PM +1000, Michael Lake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
  muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
  remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that. Have searched slug
  archives for that with keywords mutt, quote, sig but can't find it. Can't
  search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,  the 
  UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 
 
 here's another solution:
 make a .signature file like this:
 
 %QUOTE%
 put whatever you like here what needs to be STATIC.
 
ect...

 and from then one you signature will change automaperly!

Thanks jobst.
I ended up working it out myself just then. Here is how I did it.

In .muttrc I have:
folder-hook slug set signature=/home/mikel/bin/fortune.sig|

the script fortune.sig is:

#!/bin/bash
# Create a short fortune to go before my email sig
echo `fortune -s`
echo 
cat ~/.signature

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Michael Lake

 Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
 muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
 remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that.

Nay, that would have been Mr. Rumble's recent mail. I would never save my
signatures to /tmp - ANYONE could see them! ;)

 Can't search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,
 the UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 

UTS routing loop. Good show. Anyway, here's how to do it:

send-hook  .  set signature = 'fortune |'

Send hooks are really useful, and you should read more about these (and
folder hooks) in the Mutt manual. . matches everything, and the piped
fortune brings in the text.

I actually use some hacky Python to do the centering and stuff, which...
ah... needs some work.

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Hardy

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:32:54PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote:
snip!
 In .muttrc I have:
 folder-hook slug set signature=/home/mikel/bin/fortune.sig|
 
 the script fortune.sig is:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 # Create a short fortune to go before my email sig
 echo `fortune -s`
 echo 
 cat ~/.signature

You might also be interested in the -n argument to fortune, which sets the
maximum length for the -s option, in characters.  So:
echo `fortune -l 75 -s`

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Attn Michael Lake

2001-05-09 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:11:37AM +1000, Howard Lowndes uttered:
 Apologies to the rest of the list, but Michael, please check your email
 address.  This one is bouncing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Errr, according to my list it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (or something very similar)

[ sendmail bounce snipped ]

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Re: [SLUG] Strange behaviour of vim within mutt

2001-05-09 Thread getadog

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:32:11PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote:

The first reply bounced, sorry if you happen to get this twice.

 When using mutt I have set the editor to vim but the keymappings are wrong.
 The up arrow key when pressed opens the line above and inserts an 'A' though
 sometimes a D or C on that new blank line. if I hit escape before the arrow
 key then its fine the cursor moves up ie the problem occurs during insert
 mode. The problem does not occur when using vim outside of mutt.
 Similarly the down arrow key will give me a 'B' on a new line opened up
 below the current line.

I have seen this problem, but for me it was occurring while
running vim after sshing in (no mutt), so this may not help.

apt-get install vim-rt

Of cause I'm make some big assumptions here :)

I think installing vim-rt fixed the problem for me because vim-rt installs
amongst other things /ec/vimrc which has the line set nocompatible.  
(plus other good defaults)




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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Dave Fitch

 while there's a spate of mutt questions...
 how can I set a different outgoing email address for
 different mailing lists?

folder-hook or send-hook as appropriate.

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Re: [SLUG] outlook calender contacts substitute

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Alister Waller

 Is there a substitute for using outlooks email, calender and contacts etc
 that would run on a windows PC but use a central linux server to hold the
 shared data?

HP OpenMail.

Bruce Perens is supposedly trying to get it freed, as HP has decided that
version 7 is the last to be released.

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[SLUG] Finding open files on the system

2001-05-09 Thread Andrew Eager

At the last meeting,  it was asked:

 If the disk is spinning madly is there any way to determine which 
process is causing the activity ?

A bloody good question that I have asked myself many times.  I used to 
have a utility called 'fopen' under QNX but not under linux.

If anyone is interested,  I have written a utility called 'fopen' which 
does the following

  a)  Prints the PID, Process name  Currently open files for that PID
  b)  as above but for sockets
  c)  as above but for pipes.

It also prints either the size of the file (so you can see it growing) 
or optionally, the time since last access/change/modification.

Example:

   PIDPROCESSTIME FILE/RESOURCE
  1161   crond00:05:18  /var/log/cron

. etc

If anyone interested, let me know.

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 03:20:38PM +0800, Malcolm Tredinnick 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 04:45:26PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
  here's another solution:

[snip]

 This is very much in the 'me too' vein, but I get the same effect from
 a ten line shell script (and that's a blank line included in the count).
 Of course, it wins no prizes in the immediately obvious how it works
 category. :-)
 
 --
 #! /bin/sh
 # The next line has a newline immediately after the quote.
 IFS='
 '
 sigfile=/home/malcolm/Mail/signature-lines
 lines=($(cat $sigfile))
 length=$(wc -l  $sigfile)
 
 echo static stuff goes here ...
 echo ${lines[$(($RANDOM % $length))]}
 --
 
 So who said Perl was only for writing short unintelligible scripts?
 Looks like you can write long unintelligible scripts with it as well.
 :-)

There is nothing wrong with what you said (and did). I wrote that script 
yonks ago with people in mind who needed some error output to help them
to get the script going and to give them some error reports in case they
did something wrong. If you chop it down to the guts you end up with a
4 liner (with a pipe in muttrc), unreadable for most people, this was 
NOT my aim.


... and you dont have to run for cover ;-)


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Re: [SLUG] Finding open files on the system

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Andrew Eager

 If anyone is interested,  I have written a utility called 'fopen' which 
 does the following
 
   a)  Prints the PID, Process name  Currently open files for that PID
   b)  as above but for sockets
   c)  as above but for pipes.

You might find some interesting reading in the source code of fuser. :)

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread David Fisher


 
 Thanks jobst.
 I ended up working it out myself just then. Here is how I did it.
 
 In .muttrc I have:
 folder-hook slug set signature=/home/mikel/bin/fortune.sig|
 
 the script fortune.sig is:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 # Create a short fortune to go before my email sig
 echo `fortune -s`
 echo 
 cat ~/.signature
 
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Re: [SLUG] Can't log in to RH7 drive. Ideas ?

2001-05-09 Thread Colin Humphreys

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:06:37PM +1000, Crossfire wrote:
 Adam F. Bogacki was once rumoured to have said:
  Thanks, C.
  
  I followed your advice in  going into the - I agree - cruddy RH7 LILO
  graphic, using control-x to get into interactive login and typing 'linux
  single'. It told me there were duplicate/bad blocks in /dev/hdb1 which
  were fixable via fsck. I ran 'e2fsck -y /dev/hdb1' to fix that problem and
  continued with the boot sequence - only to end up at the same unstable
  situation I have described before.
 
 Yes, and that is just a red herring to your real problem.
 
 Boot single again, and play on your file systems.
 
 Like I said, something is causing your X server to fail which causes
 gdm to go into a loop.  Fix that whilst booted single, and you'll fix
 your problem - I can't tell you why your X server is broken, but
 reading the logs that gdm generates will give you a good start.

I'd suggest a good start would be to stop booting into the graphical
startup at least until you fix the problem, with your X server/gdm

to do this on redhat just change the default runlevel to 3 instead of 5

boot single user and then edit /etc/inittab

and change the line near the top, that looks a bit like 

id:5:initdefault:

to

id:3:initdefault:

and you will then be able to boot normally, (although without X)

  
  I think my options are to continue with setting up the 'tomsrtbt' disk
  mentioned by Ken in an effort to boot via disk, mount file systems to have a
  look at them to see what is wrong and try to fix it - otherwise to install a
  new system. In my case that will probably be Debian.
 
 Nup - like I said, not necessary.  Toms RootBoot is the wrong thing in
 this situation.

yup... boot single is the way

-Colin
 
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[SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-09 Thread Alex Salmon

hi
i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure
the rpm of my fan from it. not through software like lm_sensors but in real 
life ie so it dosent even have to be in a pc. 

Is there some kind of eq i can use so i can measure the voltage across the 
3rd wire and get a rpm value.

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Re: [SLUG] Video

2001-05-09 Thread Paul Haddon

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 12:47:00PM +1000, Alan L Tyree wrote:

 I have recently acquired a digital videocam and want to do some
 capture/editing.

As do 1,000's of others, if the proliferation of software  
magazines is anything to go by. Check out the newsagents. There
are at least 4 magazines on digital video and related fields.
All windows-centric but the basic ideas apply.

 I have the VCR-HOWTO that seems to give basic capture info, but it
 seems to me that that must be analogue signals.

VCR != Digital Videocam.

 Anything special I need to know to do some basic editing, etc? What
 connections and software am I looking for?

There are two basic types of camcorders
1) Signal stored in Analogue format
2) Signal stored in Digital format

If your camcorder is: VHS, VHS-C, S-VHS, S-VHS-C, Video 8, Hi8 
then it's analogue. Mini-DV, Digital 8 and MPEG-4 are digital.

If you have an analogue camcorder, it will only output analogue
signals, the kind that work with TVs/VCRs etc. To get that into
a PC for editing you need a video capture card.

With digital camcorders, they (should) have outputs for both
analogue (TV etc) and digital devices. The most common format
for digital I/O is FireWire (ieee 1394) also known as I.Link

With a firewire system, data gets transferred from the camcorder
directly into your PC as a digital stream. The benefit of this is
that there's no loss of quality. Plus you get things like time/date
stamping etc. Also the PC can drive the camcorder through the link.

I haven't played with video under linux, and only seen programs like
VideoStudio and Premier (for Windoze), so I can't give personal
recommendations; but http://www.linuxvideo.com/ has a list of 
programs that might help.

Editing video is a simple process:

- buy a computer with the fastest CPU  graphics card you can afford 
- buy insane amounts of fast hard disk storage to boot
- plug camcorder into firewire port on PC
- suck video from camcorder onto hard disk
- spend copious amounts of time moving blocks of video around, putting
cheesy titles in, and running through the 100's of scene-fading options
available
- render the finished product as a movie
- output the movie to your output format of choice

 Also grateful for any info on sending video images to US relos that
 need to see it on NTSC systems.

The problem with sending video to the US is that they've never heard
of anything other than NTSC. But there are methods to send them video.

- get the PC to output video as NTSC. This is good if you've got an
output card, plus a VCR that can record in NTSC. (Beware! there are
2 NTSC standards: NTSC 4.4 and NTSC 3.6. Find out which one they
can cope with )

- if you don't have a tv output card, output the video back to 
the camcorder. It's a digital transfer, so no loss of quality. Then
play the camcorder back onto a normal VCR. At this point you've got
a PAL tape. Find someone with a NTSC - Pal converter box and an 
NTSC VCR, or pay a company to convert it for you.

- if they've got a DVD player, chances are it can run VCDs. If so
you can burn the movie as a VCD on a standard CD-Rom and not need
to use a VCR at all. (caveat: I've run NTSC DVDs and VCDs on my
player and had them come out as PAL. Not sure how well US players
cope with going the other way) 
 
- if they've got a computer, burn it onto a CD-Rom as an AVI or
MPEG.

For more information search for Linux, DV and NLE.
(Digital Video  Non-Linear Editing)

Cheers

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:15:59PM +1000, Michael Lake uttered:

 Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
 muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
 remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that. Have searched slug
 archives for that with keywords mutt, quote, sig but can't find it. Can't
 search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,  the 
 UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 

That was me and I've pasted it in below.  Someone else posted a far
more elegant one though...  Note the switches on fortune that keep
them short (-s).  There are also switches to not use the off-colour
fortunes (actually I think the Debian one requires you to explicitely
ask for off colour).  Also you can limit the length to an arbitrary
number of lines as someone pointed out.  Use the other ones posted,
though.  Mine is ugly ugly ugly and bodgy bodgy bodgy.  (But it works
so I won't be changing it in a hurry :)

#!/bin/sh

cat $HOME/.signature /tmp/sig.simonr
/usr/games/fortune -s /tmp/sig.simonr
cat /tmp/sig.simonr

Then this line goes in your .muttrc.  The non-obvious part is the pipe
at the END of the command.

set signature=/home/simonr/bin/sigchange.sh|

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Re: [SLUG] Video

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Collins

Paul Haddon wrote:

..snip.

Some of the stuff Paul has mentioned has jogged my memory and I
apologies for posting copious references about other OSs, but it may
give some people a guide.

 Editing video is a simple process:
 
 - buy a computer with the fastest CPU  graphics card you can afford

The win98 software that I had to fix was only a K6-2-450 and the usual
rule is that things run better under linux than the other one. However,
this bit of software allowed you to make up a layout/schema (jargon?),
then tell it to render (create the final product). It makes logical
sense, to me, for all video editing software to do this.

If wages were involved, $5,000+ on a new machine is chicken feed, but
for home, naah. The final rendering will just take longer.

 - buy insane amounts of fast hard disk storage to boot

The particular other os  software wanted a certain data transfer rate
(4kb/sec), which should be easily met by a modern IDE hard disk. The
other os had a particular problem with meeting this requirements (yep,
something was causing it not to handle hard disks properly). Once the
installation sequence of everything was sorted out and remained stable,
that other OS managed 20Kb/sec okay. So my guess is that linux should
have no trouble. The doco still talked about having the data on a
seperate disk to the system and using scsi, but this was in the context
of that other OS and for home stuff (where wages are not being taken
into account), it shouldn't be a problem.

We fitted a 27Gb hard disk, which I think gave him a minimum of 40
minutes, but the software would only store 18min (file size limit  under
that other os). The doco should give you some guidance on time/storage
requirments.

 - plug camcorder into firewire port on PC
 - suck video from camcorder onto hard disk
 


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[SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Collins

Hello folks

Does anyone know of any electronic voting software that is open source?

I need to do some arguments to can/undermine  a proposal put to the NSW
Greens whereby they buy some closed source electronic voting software
and pay a fee per vote cast.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Terry Collins

 Does anyone know of any electronic voting software that is open source?

Anand mentioned something about this a while back, a new piece of the GNU
Project.

Perhaps if I say Anand a few more times, this will pop up in his mail
scoring and he will answer it.

Anand Anand Anand.

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[SLUG] Samba

2001-05-09 Thread Heracles

I have had to set up a machine at school that has one 500Mb IDE drive,
one 1Gb SCSI drive and six (6) CDROM drives. The CDROMS have to be
available to all of the other machines on the network in such a way that
the kids will just have to click on an icon to load the program on the
CD (Encarta for example). I can get the other machines to see the CD
Server, but when I try to attach one of the drives I am asked for a
password. I activated Null Passwords to avoid this problem, but it still
occurs. Any suggestions would be of assistance. (I am using Red Hat 6
and the samba that came with it and the machine is an early 486 DX33)
I have read the docs, bu obviously have missed something.

Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:30PM +1000, Terry Collins uttered:

 I need to do some arguments to can/undermine  a proposal put to the NSW
 Greens whereby they buy some closed source electronic voting software
 and pay a fee per vote cast.

How can I be sure someone isn't fiddling the votes without being able
to see the source?  Even with the source you'd need to have the
compiler options and library versions so you could compare the
compiled software with the source to ensure no mods were made when
compiling.

Electronic voting is a nice idea but I think it's a bit early to go
headlong into it, particularly for important things like major
political parties.

Is this to be used just to poll members for their views on issues or
to elect candidates/leaders etc?  If it's the former, mabye.  For the
latter, I doubt Australian electoral law or the AEC would be up to
date enough yet.

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Re: [SLUG] Samba

2001-05-09 Thread Jon Biddell

On Wed,  9 May 2001 22:15, Heracles wrote:
 I have had to set up a machine at school that has one 500Mb IDE drive,
 one 1Gb SCSI drive and six (6) CDROM drives. The CDROMS have to be
 available to all of the other machines on the network in such a way that
 the kids will just have to click on an icon to load the program on the
 CD (Encarta for example). I can get the other machines to see the CD
 Server, but when I try to attach one of the drives I am asked for a
 password. I activated Null Passwords to avoid this problem, but it still
 occurs. Any suggestions would be of assistance. (I am using Red Hat 6
 and the samba that came with it and the machine is an early 486 DX33)
 I have read the docs, bu obviously have missed something.


This is NOT a secure method, but there is a registry hack to allow 
unencrypted passwords to be sent to the Samba server.

Let me know if you want it and I can dig it out..

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[SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to
configure ppp under RedHat 7?  If there isn't it's the last straw and
I'm gonna install something sane instead.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Collins

Rev Simon Rumble wrote:

 Is this to be used just to poll members for their views on issues or
 to elect candidates/leaders etc? 

That is the proposal, @ 50c/vote cast.

That fee had me ROFLMEO.

Would you pay $500* for every time your organisation took a vote?

* illustrative figure as the NSW greens have over the reguired 750
members for registration in NSW.

Party Political Broadcast
As a member, I've just been adding comments on-line about the national
meeting agenda for later this month. Other NSW members might also like
to add their comments on the various items and take the membership
computer skills survey. Hint, it could do with a few linux users.

Hint - it wouldn't hurt if a few other people commented on the
technology behind the National Database either. I got a bit carried away
about the virtues of open source software, but I think they will get the
picture if a few more people are post supporting open source software.
/Party Political Broadcast

You have just been subject to propaganda from the NSW Greens {:-).

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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:08:04PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble uttered:
 Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to
 configure ppp under RedHat 7?  If there isn't it's the last straw and
 I'm gonna install something sane instead.

ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*ppp*

But other than that small fragment, i'm none the wiser.
And I'm not even sure that is the directory, i do know it's
_somewhere_ in /etc/sysconfig.

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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who=Rev Simon Rumble

 There are also switches to not use the off-colour fortunes (actually I
 think the Debian one requires you to explicitely ask for off colour).

Or, make your own! It's fun! It's like PlaySchool without the Macrame and
Paper Mache! Like kindergarten without catch and kiss! Like teenage without
the mutant! Like-- Jeff's posts without the crack!

  So, create a quotes file; it looks like this:

$ vi quotes
Quote 1
%
Quote 2
%
PANTS OFF! - Conrad Parker
%
I'll just sit here and fondle my notebook. - Michael Slade

  Then, run strfile on it:

quotes.dat created
There were 4 strings
Longest string: 61 bytes
Shortest string: 8 bytes

  Thus, you have a fortune compatible strings file (with dat file):

$ fortune quotes
PANTS OFF! - Conrad Parker

  Hurrah! Now add this to your .bashrc for speedy fortune file editing fun:

vifortune()
{
if [ -z $1 ]
then
echo Usage: vifortune fortune-file;
else
vi $1;
strfile $1  /dev/null;
echo;
fortune $1;
fi
} 

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Re: [SLUG] Samba

2001-05-09 Thread Howard Lowndes

Try defining them as public = yes

I have found that that gets round the problem sometimes.

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On Wed, 9 May 2001, Heracles wrote:

 I have had to set up a machine at school that has one 500Mb IDE drive,
 one 1Gb SCSI drive and six (6) CDROM drives. The CDROMS have to be
 available to all of the other machines on the network in such a way that
 the kids will just have to click on an icon to load the program on the
 CD (Encarta for example). I can get the other machines to see the CD
 Server, but when I try to attach one of the drives I am asked for a
 password. I activated Null Passwords to avoid this problem, but it still
 occurs. Any suggestions would be of assistance. (I am using Red Hat 6
 and the samba that came with it and the machine is an early 486 DX33)
 I have read the docs, bu obviously have missed something.
 
 Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread David Kempe

 Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to
 configure ppp under RedHat 7?  If there isn't it's the last straw and
 I'm gonna install something sane instead.

Whats the problem with linuxconf?
Does ncurses count as non-GUI?

Dave


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Re: [SLUG] Finding open files on the system

2001-05-09 Thread Jon Carnes

Always wanted one of those!  But never enough to write it myself...

Jon
- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Eager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 4:22 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Finding open files on the system


 At the last meeting,  it was asked:
 
  If the disk is spinning madly is there any way to determine which 
 process is causing the activity ?
 
 A bloody good question that I have asked myself many times.  I used to 
 have a utility called 'fopen' under QNX but not under linux.
 
 If anyone is interested,  I have written a utility called 'fopen' which 
 does the following
 
   a)  Prints the PID, Process name  Currently open files for that PID
   b)  as above but for sockets
   c)  as above but for pipes.
 
 It also prints either the size of the file (so you can see it growing) 
 or optionally, the time since last access/change/modification.
 
 Example:
 
PIDPROCESSTIME FILE/RESOURCE
   1161   crond00:05:18  /var/log/cron
 
 . etc
 
 If anyone interested, let me know.
 
 Andrew E.
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Dean Hamstead

Edit /etc/ppp/options (not totally needed but makes life a lil easier)
edit /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (or chap-secrets)
edit /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript

then run 
/usr/sbin/pppd connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -r /etc/ppp/report-chat -f
/etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript

works for me ;)


Dean

Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 
 Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to
 configure ppp under RedHat 7?  If there isn't it's the last straw and
 I'm gonna install something sane instead.
 
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Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-09 Thread Michael Lake

Alex Salmon wrote:
 i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure
 the rpm of my fan from it. 

rpm --query --speed -p fan

Mike :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 11:27:02PM +1000, David Kempe uttered:

 Whats the problem with linuxconf?
 Does ncurses count as non-GUI?

That's what I thought -- it used to be there in older RH versions.  I
ask you, what's the point of a centralised configuration tool if you
don't centralise all the configuration in it?  The RH manual suggests
kppp and RP3, both GUI apps.

But then that's not surprising considering Chapter 6: Text Mode
Installations at a Glance has a section 6.21: Configuring the X
Window System...

I'm forced to conclude that RedHat can no longer be configure without
X.  For that reason it is no longer suitable for servers.

Yes yes I know I can always point it to an X server somewhere over a
network but I don't always have one available and I like being able to
configure/fix machines from ANYWHERE.  Hell I was doing sysadmin stuff
from Internet cafes in the middle of Vietnam last year!

As for those who suggested writing my own script for pppd, yes I could
do that (and indeed have in the past) but then I could also build my
own distribution from scratch.  There's not much point when others
have done such a good job.  Better to just reinstall, this time with
Debian.

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-09 Thread Dean Hamstead

ooh ooh ooh
you learn this in high school physics

you need a stobe light with a controllable frequency
you point it at it and adjust it till the blades stop
at that point your frequency is a multiple of the fans
frequency.

Youll find as you lower the frequency the blades will
move again and then slow and stop. 

You will eventually match the number of rotations and 
then youll get the same affect as you get to 1/2 
frequency or 1/4 frequency

stop the fan and mark a blade. start it again, then 
get the mark to stand still and repeat the process.
if your at 1/2 youll find that the dot is in two places
(or more as you go to 1/4...), increase frequency till
it stops in place. Presto! your frequency matches the 
number of rotations per second.

You can then work out all sorts of neat stuff in 
combo with the blade length (eg radius)

works for all fans and isnt os dependant. it is also 
free to use but comes with no warranty and you can 
distribute it.

Dean

Michael Lake wrote:
 
 Alex Salmon wrote:
  i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure
  the rpm of my fan from it.
 
 rpm --query --speed -p fan
 
 Mike :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-09 Thread mikel

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 11:30:54AM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:15:59PM +1000, Michael Lake uttered:
 
  Sometime ago someone posted (Jeff?) a script which you can set to run in
  muttrc that runs fortune and sets the output into your sig. From what I
  remember it wrote a sig to tmp and then used that. Have searched slug
  archives for that with keywords mutt, quote, sig but can't find it. Can't
  search woa at present or indeed slug again at moment as web is down,  the 
  UTS can't seem to resolve any sites. The rain? 
 
 That was me and I've pasted it in below.  Someone else posted a far
 more elegant one though...  Note the switches on fortune that keep

Thanks Simon, a nice short script and understandable.
I shall try and avoid the fortune -o :-)

 Polymer physicists are into chains.

Mike
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RE: [SLUG] question... multiboot etc.

2001-05-09 Thread Grant Tester

 
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

The OS/2 program was called Boot Manager not Partition Magic, though
old versions of Partition Magic could install it for you, and I think
the new versions can still configure it if it's present.

The Boot Manager was part of OS/2's fdisk.exe, and therefore to
install it, all you need is an OS/2 boot disk with fdisk.exe on it.
I've got a disk image of an OS/2 boot disk on my laptop that I build
onsite and use when a partition refuses to budge or I want to set up
a machine to dual boot.
Let me know if anyone wants it.

On a single HDD I installed Boot Manager to primary, Win98  2K to
primary, DOS to a very small primary, Linux to extended, LILO into
that extended partition, and had Boot Manager boot Linux from the
extended partition. This gets around the primary limitation. I could
have also booted OS/2 from another logical in that extended partition
as these are the two OS's that allow it.


Thanks,

Grant

- -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
Andrew Eager
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2001 12:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] question... multiboot etc.


Michael wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Its come to the point where I require to rebuild my personal
 workstation. I was thinking of having the following setup. Just
 wanted to run it by a few of you for comments.
 
 hda
 windows98 (primary Xmb's)
 windows200 pro (primary Xmb's)
 
 hdab
 linux
 
 hdc
 cdrom

OK, I'll throw my bit in.  This is actually something that all (6 in 
total) of my machines do.  If you want to keep 3 different OS's on
the 
one boot disk, all in primary partitions I reackon this is the way to
go:

   hda1- Partition magic (or equivalent boot manager)
   hda2- OS 1  (QNX)
   hda3- OS 2  (DOS / WIN)
   hda4- OS 3  (Linux - can be split into logical drives; hda5 
/boot, hda6 / )

hdb, hdc etc do with as you like.

While it wastes one primary partition (with only 1 cylinder needed on
that partition) it does quite nicely ensure that only 1 primary 
partition is available to the system at boot.  In addition, you can
use 
lilo as well as long as it is installed on the 'first sector of boot 
partition' and NOT  the MBR.

Partition magic can also be used to boot from a partion on hdb,

Sounds like a plug for Partition magic, but I actually discovered it 
while installing OS/2.  It is now the only thing from OS/2 that I
use.

Regards,

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RE: [SLUG] Finding open files on the system

2001-05-09 Thread Greg Hosler

man lsof

-Greg

On 09-May-01 Andrew Eager wrote:
 At the last meeting,  it was asked:
 
  If the disk is spinning madly is there any way to determine which 
 process is causing the activity ?
 
 A bloody good question that I have asked myself many times.  I used to 
 have a utility called 'fopen' under QNX but not under linux.
 
 If anyone is interested,  I have written a utility called 'fopen' which 
 does the following
 
   a)  Prints the PID, Process name  Currently open files for that PID
   b)  as above but for sockets
   c)  as above but for pipes.
 
 It also prints either the size of the file (so you can see it growing) 
 or optionally, the time since last access/change/modification.
 
 Example:
 
PIDPROCESSTIME FILE/RESOURCE
   1161   crond00:05:18  /var/log/cron
 
 . etc
 
 If anyone interested, let me know.
 
 Andrew E.
 
 
 
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millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million
machines in use wordwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that
cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do
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[SLUG] Mailserver Logs

2001-05-09 Thread Dave Peters

Why would my mail server be reporting the following errors? I have
several accounts that log on without any problems, recently I setup a
new account and they are unable to log on to receive their email. 

May  7 02:26:24 light ipop3d[20922]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 49:
host name/address mismatch: 204.244.162.*** != kam***.dial.uniserve.ca
May  7 02:26:24 light ipop3d[20922]: refused connect from
204.244.162.***

In my hosts.allow file I have: 
pop3d: localhost my.ip.num.000/sub.net.000.000: ALLOW

If I change this to:
pop3d: ALL: ALLOW

I still get a warning in my secure log, but the connection from this
account is allowed. Is there a security issue with using this setup? Any
Ideas why I would get the error host name/address mismatch, for this
account?

Also I'm occasionally getting this error in my logs as well. 
May  8 02:56:45 light sendmail[28329]: NOQUEUE: office.**somewhere**.com
[208.181.***.***] did not issue
MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA
May  8 02:56:46 light ipop3d[28330]: No such file or directory while
reading line user=???
host=office.**somewhere**.com [208.181.***.***]

Any ideas?? 


Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Del

Rev Simon Rumble wrote:

 I'm forced to conclude that RedHat can no longer be configure without
 X.  For that reason it is no longer suitable for servers.

OK so that's rubbish and you know it is.  You can configure without
X reasonably easily, and operate using all of the normal command
line stuff.  That includes things like linuxconf, ntsysv, and even
vi if you have to.

More distro flame wars.

Does anyone have anything useful to say on this list?

Del

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:38:31PM +0800, Alex Salmon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 hi
 i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure
 the rpm of my fan from it. not through software like lm_sensors but in real 
 life ie so it dosent even have to be in a pc. 
 
 Is there some kind of eq i can use so i can measure the voltage across the 
 3rd wire and get a rpm value.

This is not tested.

Every motor becomes when rotated a generator, too (simply spoken).
This effect can be used to measure its rotational speed (ie revs).

I just looked at one and I assume that the yellow wire together
with the black wire is used (12V) to drive the motor.

So the red wire is probably used to detect its revs.
What you could do is attach 12V to the yellow cable and a multimeter
to the red wire (reference point 0V is the black wire).

Then measure the voltage and slightly slow down the motor,
you should see a lower voltage on the multimeter.


This is probably the way MB test the revs. If you go into
the bios you can see that the detected speed is rather corse,
meaning it has big steps:

 5000 .. 4500 .. 4000 ... etc

I assume they have some kind circuitry (caps and resistors) to
detect a a range of voltages and then display it...


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[SLUG] sendmail 8.9 and no DNS.. I know, I know, it's an oldie question

2001-05-09 Thread George Vieira

I have searched and found http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.22
which is to add the 2 lines in and recompiled the CF file but it doesn't
work.

I suppose a server listed in /etc/hosts goes into the DS options right?

Can anybody put a simple put this in and this in and change this and
recompile this for me?

I've done this before and I can't find jack on where it was done..

thanks,
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[SLUG] Re: [ANN] Debian SIG Initial Meeting Details

2001-05-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness

I'd like to be a Debian maintainer for one small(ish) package to lift my
contribution level.

I would be most interested in hearing such a talk.

Cheers
Zen


On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 02:58:53PM +1000, Craige McWhirter wrote:
 Okay, I finally got around to it. I've found a venue that suited my idea
 of a good venue, the SIG can pass judgement on it after the first meeting
 
 ;)
 
 Here are the gritty details:
 
 Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs)
 When: Wednesday, 16th May 19:00
 Cost: $0, 
   $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee
 Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available
 Fasc: Boardroom, power, whiteboard - possibly a TV
 
 Agenda:
 There is none yet, except for those interested to come along and work
 out what they would like to see the SIG do. Ah, and decide whether the
 venue/time/day of week are the most suitable.
 
 I'd also like to call for anyone interested in giving a 30min talk on
 something Debian related. After recent discussions, Becoming a Debian
 Maintainer may be a good initial one ;)
 
 A penny for all your thoughts and ideas. 
 
 I hope to see as many of you there as possible :)
 
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[SLUG] Mail prob: unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Lake

Hi,

Well I don't know whether its my exim/mutt prob or the uni's mail system
now. Difficult to setup exim/mail when the uni has mail probs.

I get the following error when I send mail internally either to others or to
myself as in the headers below. The mail bounces with:
unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

In mutt I have set:
my_hdr From: Mike Lake[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set use_from # always generate the `From:' header field

alternatively are there particular entries in the exim.conf file I should
check?

But mainly whats the error actually mean? Should the envelope or return
path be [EMAIL PROTECTED] as that is my email addr here. The mikel is
just my login on my Linux box.

From MAILER-DAEMON Thu May 10 10:15:13 2001
Return-path: 
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
Received: from mail by b4114a.chem.uts.edu.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
id 14xe6r-6z-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --

Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from mikel by b4114a.chem.uts.edu.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian))
id 14xe6r-6v-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
From: Mike Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
X-Speleonics: Speleological Consultancy and Electronics Design
Sender: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi

--- end of included email example 

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[SLUG] RE: sendmail 8.9 and no DNS.. I know, I know, it's an oldie question

2001-05-09 Thread George Vieira

PS: I'm not on the list.

I have tried all sort of things and I still can't set the linux box to relay
via an internal SMTP server. The linux box isn't DNS aware and I've tried
putting an /etc/hosts entry for the internet mail server and tried setting
all sorts of combinations in the /etc/sendmail.mc file and recompile but to
no avail..

Anybody got 8.9.3 working with no DNS..??


thanks,
George Vieira


-Original Message-
From: George Vieira 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:59 AM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group (E-mail)
Subject: sendmail 8.9 and no DNS.. I know, I know, it's an oldie
question


I have searched and found http://www.sendmail.org/faq/section3.html#3.22
which is to add the 2 lines in and recompiled the CF file but it doesn't
work.

I suppose a server listed in /etc/hosts goes into the DS options right?

Can anybody put a simple put this in and this in and change this and
recompile this for me?

I've done this before and I can't find jack on where it was done..

thanks,
George Vieira

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RE: [SLUG] outlook calender contacts substitute

2001-05-09 Thread Adam Armstrong
Title: RE: [SLUG] outlook calender contacts substitute





HP Openmail has all Exchange Server functionality including Contacts, Calendars, Group scheduling, web access, etc. 


go to www.openmail.com


Adam Armstrong
BES Information Technology Systems
80 Albert Street
Brisbane QLD 4000
Australia
Phone 61 7 3221 7599
Fax 61 7 3221 7657
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]





-Original Message-
From: Alister Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2001 16:34
To: Slug
Subject: [SLUG] outlook calender contacts substitute




Hi,


Is there a substitute for using outlooks email, calender and contacts etc
that would run on a windows PC but use a central linux server to hold the
shared data?


In other words a nice (windows) client and linux server email/calender and
contacts solution.


We cannot change the workstations over to Linux.


regards



Alister Waller (B. Comp)
Technical Consultant - Roadtech Systems Ltd
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[SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Green

Calling all Sendmail Ninjas.

I've been mulling over a problem for a few days now and thought I would
open it up to the world of Slug for a bit of brain storming.


We (at work) are using Trend for Email AV scanning.  Trend has the
functionality to send emails to the sender and receipiant of infected
mails reporting they have sent an infected attachment.

So far, so good. Then the marketing department get their hands on
the product spec.

They have dictated that the system must be able to comply with the
following rules
*   Mail the sender if the sender is our customer (lookup table)
*   Change the subject line of the original mail
*   Change the body of the text

Trend alone cannot do this - it is very limited in the way it can send
out the infected alerts, hence my problem.

I am thinking of using libmilter to create a filter which will scan ALL
email, decide (by the presence/absence of an X header or certain text in
the body) if it needs to process the email as a virus warning.  If it is
a virus warning, it needs to rewrite the subject and body, then reattach
the original file and send it to the original receipiant - then decide if
it needs to warn the sender too.

I have thought about using a number of different ways - including a new
delivery agent (still a good possibility) and procmail (won't do everything
I need cleanly).

Anyone interested in brainstorming

Cheers

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-09 Thread Aussie

On 9 May 01, at 17:38, Alex Salmon wrote:

 hi
 i have one of those 3 wire fans on my cpu. My question is how do i measure
 the rpm of my fan from it. not through software like lm_sensors but in real life
 ie so it dosent even have to be in a pc. 
 
 Is there some kind of eq i can use so i can measure the voltage across the 3rd
 wire and get a rpm value.

3 wire fans are 1 pulse = 1 revolution.

A simple electronic speedo circuit should do it.

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Re: [SLUG] Finding open files on the system

2001-05-09 Thread Antony Stace
sounds like

lsof

if you wrote your utility in c I would be interested in looking at the
source code, does it parse the /proc file system to get the information?


Cheers

Tony

Andrew Eager wrote:
 
 At the last meeting,  it was asked:
 
 " If the disk is spinning madly is there any way to determine which
 process is causing the activity ?"
 
 A bloody good question that I have asked myself many times.  I used to
 have a utility called 'fopen' under QNX but not under linux.
 
 If anyone is interested,  I have written a utility called 'fopen' which
 does the following
 
   a)  Prints the PID, Process name  Currently open files for that PID
   b)  as above but for sockets
   c)  as above but for pipes.
 
 It also prints either the size of the file (so you can see it growing)
 or optionally, the time since last access/change/modification.
 
 Example:
 
PIDPROCESSTIME FILE/RESOURCE
   1161   crond00:05:18  /var/log/cron
 
 . etc
 
 If anyone interested, let me know.
 
 Andrew E.
 
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Re: [SLUG] Strange behaviour of vim within mutt

2001-05-09 Thread Mike Lake

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 06:05:46PM +1000, getadog wrote:
 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:32:11PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote:
  When using mutt I have set the editor to vim but the keymappings are wrong.
  The up arrow key when pressed opens the line above and inserts an 'A' though
  sometimes a D or C on that new blank line. if I hit escape before the arrow
  key then its fine the cursor moves up ie the problem occurs during insert
  mode. The problem does not occur when using vim outside of mutt.
  Similarly the down arrow key will give me a 'B' on a new line opened up
  below the current line.
 
 I have seen this problem, but for me it was occurring while
 running vim after sshing in (no mutt), so this may not help.
   apt-get install vim-rt
 I think installing vim-rt fixed the problem for me because vim-rt installs
 amongst other things /ec/vimrc which has the line set nocompatible.  

Thanks ! That solved the problem. Yes /etc/vimrc is supplied by vim-rc
according to dpkg -L vim-rt

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-09 Thread Richard Hayes

Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
 
 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 08:55:30PM +1000, Terry Collins uttered:

 Electronic voting is a nice idea but I think it's a bit early to go
 headlong into it, particularly for important things like major
 political parties.

Is it any worst (or better) than the false bottom ballot boxes or the
ballot boxes with dodgy seals.

Under the current law once a valid vote is cast and placed into a ballot
box it can not removed from the count.

So, even if there is proven illegality (very difficult) the vote still
counts.

The dead will vote often and early!!!

In Queensland, SA and other states abuse is wide spread.  Branch
stacking / rigging is the norm just sometimes it is just a little less
obvious.

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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 09:01:39AM +1000, Dean Hamstead ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Edit /etc/ppp/options (not totally needed but makes life a lil easier)
 edit /etc/ppp/pap-secrets (or chap-secrets)
 edit /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript
 
 then run 
 /usr/sbin/pppd connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -r /etc/ppp/report-chat -f
 /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript
 
 works for me ;)

that is assuming your pppd never dies due to the fact that the connection
died. How do you get it up again without sitting in front of the box?


You can configure RedHat without GUI.
Its all done in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts

You need to edit basically three files:

/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0
/etc/ppp/peers/ppp0

--- ifcfg-ppp0
DEVICE=ppp0
ONBOOT=yes
USERCTL=no
MODEMPORT=/dev/ttyS1
LINESPEED=115200
PAPNAME=PUT YOUR USERNAME HERE
PERSIST=yes
DEFABORT=yes
INITSTRING=ATZ
DEFROUTE=yes
HARDFLOWCTL=yes
ESCAPECHARS=no
PPPOPTIONS=
REMIP=
NETMASK=
IPADDR=
MRU=
MTU=1500
DISCONNECTTIMEOUT=
RETRYTIMEOUT=5
BOOTPROTO=none
WVDIALSECT=
PEERDNS=no -this makes sure that your resolv.conf isnt re-written each time!
DEBUG=no
--- chat-ppp0
'ABORT' 'BUSY'
'ABORT' 'ERROR'
'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER'
'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE'
'ABORT' 'Invalid Login'
'ABORT' 'Login incorrect'
'' 'ATZ'
'OK' 'ATDTPUT YOUR PHONENUMBER HERE'
'CONNECT' ''
'sername:' 'PUT YOUR USERNAME HERE'
'sword:' 'PUT YOUR PASSWORD HERRE'
'TIMEOUT' '5'
'~--' ''
 ppp0
connect /usr/sbin/chat  -f /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/chat-ppp0
-


and your done!
jobst


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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-09 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 11:28:23PM +1000, Steve Kowalik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 02:08:04PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble uttered:
  Okay RH afficionados, please tell me there is a non-GUI way to
  configure ppp under RedHat 7?  If there isn't it's the last straw and
  I'm gonna install something sane instead.
 
 ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/*ppp*
 
 But other than that small fragment, i'm none the wiser.
 And I'm not even sure that is the directory, i do know it's
 _somewhere_ in /etc/sysconfig.

Correct.
See my response to Dean.

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[SLUG] Mail/exim? error: unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

2001-05-09 Thread Michael Lake

Hi,

Well I don't know whether its my exim/mutt prob or the uni's mail system
now. Difficult to setup exim/mail when the uni has mail probs.

I get the following error when I send mail internally either to others
or to
myself as in the headers below. The mail bounces with:
unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

NOTE: this mail is being sent from Netscape Mail NOT Mutt to ensure it 
gets to you all without bouncing :-)

In mutt I have set:
my_hdr From: Mike Lake[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set use_from # always generate the `From:' header field

alternatively are there particular entries in the exim.conf file I
should
check?

But mainly whats the error actually mean? Should the envelope or return
path be [EMAIL PROTECTED] as that is my email addr here. The mikel is
just my login on my Linux box.

From MAILER-DAEMON Thu May 10 10:15:13 2001
Return-path: --- Ummm ?
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  --- Ummm?
Delivery-date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
Received: from mail by b4114a.chem.uts.edu.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1
(Debian))
id 14xe6r-6z-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. The following address(es) failed:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unknown local-part mike.lake in domain uts.edu.au

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --

Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   == U ?
Received: from mikel by b4114a.chem.uts.edu.au with local (Exim 3.12 #1
(Debian))
id 14xe6r-6v-00
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:13 +1000
From: Mike Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: test
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
X-Speleonics: Speleological Consultancy and Electronics Design
Sender: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi


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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Collins

Tony Green wrote:

 They have dictated that the system must be able to comply with the
 following rules
 *   Mail the sender if the sender is our customer (lookup table)
 *   Change the subject line of the original mail
 *   Change the body of the text


Is it just easier to have something to detect virus infected email and
pass it over to a perl script or something.?



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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Bevan Broun

on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 02:09:03PM +1000, Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 They have dictated that the system must be able to comply with the
 following rules
   *   Mail the sender if the sender is our customer (lookup table)
   *   Change the subject line of the original mail
   *   Change the body of the text
 
 Trend alone cannot do this - it is very limited in the way it can send
 out the infected alerts, hence my problem.
 
 I am thinking of using libmilter to create a filter which will scan ALL
 email, decide (by the presence/absence of an X header or certain text in
 the body) if it needs to process the email as a virus warning.  If it is
 a virus warning, it needs to rewrite the subject and body, then reattach
 the original file and send it to the original receipiant - then decide if
 it needs to warn the sender too.

I would be very careful about going down this path as it leads you to
maintaining all of this - which is fun at first but not for long. I would just
tell the marketing dept what software is available and what each package can
do. They can choose and accept the limitations.

BB

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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Green

* This one time, at band camp, Bevan Broun said:
 I would be very careful about going down this path as it leads you to
 maintaining all of this - which is fun at first but not for long. I would just
 tell the marketing dept what software is available and what each package can
 do. They can choose and accept the limitations.
 
 BB
 
A very good point - but if you have ever dealt with a marketing dept -
you know its not that easy.  I have the rescources to get a programmer
in etc if I need to - I'm just trying to get my head around the right
way to do it.

I have battled them down from their original spec and this one is now
set in stone.

Greeno
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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Green

* This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
 Is it just easier to have something to detect virus infected email and
 pass it over to a perl script or something.?

It would be if Trend supported this... However its only ability is to
clean/move/delete the attachment and modify the body of the text in a 
limited way.  You can't tell it to do anything else with the mail and
once its gone through Trend, there is no way to tell sendmail that it's
an infected email without scanning the body - hence the need for
libmilter.

Greeno
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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Peter Hardy

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:38:55PM +1000, Tony Green wrote:
 * This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
  Is it just easier to have something to detect virus infected email and
  pass it over to a perl script or something.?
 
 It would be if Trend supported this... However its only ability is to
 clean/move/delete the attachment and modify the body of the text in a 
 limited way.  You can't tell it to do anything else with the mail and
 once its gone through Trend, there is no way to tell sendmail that it's
 an infected email without scanning the body - hence the need for
 libmilter.

AMaViS! (http://amavis.sourceforge.net)

amavis is a mail filter that decodes MIME attachments and passes them to a
virus scanner.  I've got it set up to quarantine infected mails and sent a
warning email to the recipient.  It can also reply back to the original
sender.  Trend AV is on its list of supported scanners.

Not exactly what you want, but as it's mostly a perl script, it shouldn't be
too hard to hack in what you need..

HTH,

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Re: [SLUG] Calling Sendmail Ninjas.....

2001-05-09 Thread Tony Green

* This one time, at band camp, Peter Hardy said:
 AMaViS! (http://amavis.sourceforge.net)
 
 amavis is a mail filter that decodes MIME attachments and passes them to a
 virus scanner.  I've got it set up to quarantine infected mails and sent a
 warning email to the recipient.  It can also reply back to the original
 sender.  Trend AV is on its list of supported scanners.
 
 Not exactly what you want, but as it's mostly a perl script, it shouldn't be
 too hard to hack in what you need..
Not a bad idea at all - It will certainly give me a place to start if
nothing else.  I would be weary of moving away from the 'Trend' way of
scanning things - cause of the support contracts etc.  However the way
they pass emails off to the scanner might be a way to give me a hook
into perl

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[SLUG] Linuxfest - UNSW

2001-05-09 Thread Jaime Hemmett


This is a reminder to keep the weekend 19-20th of May free.

Compsoc UNSW are having Linuxfest.  

Bring
* Computer
* Network equipment
* Caffeine
* Cool linux stuff

This event will be held in the K17 CSE building on the first floor.

This will be a chance to listen to some talks from people who love
linux and a great time for you to show people your advancements in
your coding or linux setup. 

Please let me know if you would like to give a talk as we can specify
a time you'll be talking. Otherwise just get up on the day and offer to
present something.

Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more information.

Jaime Hemmett
Compsoc President,


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