[SLUG] Procmail question
sluggers, I have a problem with my procmail setup and I cant SEE it, the mail doesnt seem to be wanting to end up in the file IN.sysadmin. WHY?? [123] [piquet:jobst] ~/.procmail ls -la total 140 drwx--6 jobstjobst4096 Jun 28 16:24 . drwx-- 24 jobstjobst4096 Jun 28 15:22 .. -rw---1 jobstjobst 0 Jun 28 15:34 IN.sysadmin -rw---1 jobstjobst 108437 Jun 28 16:29 log -rw---1 jobstjobst 33 Jun 28 16:23 rc.sysadmin [stuff snipped] This is the rule (in rc.sysadmin) :0 * ^From.*jobst.* IN.sysadmin This is the procmail log entry: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 28 16:24:20 2001 Subject: test Folder: /var/spool/mail/jobst 1119 This is the mail I receive from my start.com.au account Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from i01sv4071.ids1.intelonline.com (piquet.barrett.com.au [203.63.73.52]) by piquet.barrett.com.au (8.10.2/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f5S6Mcn00783 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:22:39 +1000 Received: from i01sv0648 (unverified [10.81.26.32]) by i01sv4071.ids1.intelonline.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 4.5.4) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:22:30 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Originating-IP: [203.63.73.52] Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 16:22:25 +1000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-mailer: AspMail 4.0 4.02 (SMT4DD4B4F) Subject: test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test __ Get your free Australian email account at http://www.start.com.au -- * help! I've fallen over and I can't SIGHUP! |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Meeting details for newbie
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Michael Still wrote: I will probably be in town from Canberra on Friday the 29th, which means I might make it to SLUG. I have a few questions though: Whilst it is gratify to have started my own flame war, I think I should point out that the course got cancelled and I am therefore not able to come this month. ObLinux: Can anyone recommend a provider of C++ training for competent C programmers who actually run courses? This is Linux related, because the C++ code would of course be on Linux boxen. It might be more appropriate for replies to be sent only to me. Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.stillhq.com -- a whole bunch of Open Source stuff including PDF software... The Chad is great!The Chad is stuck! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of software distribution. This is actually in FAVOUR of linux. If companies have to pay more for software (add 10% to the purchase) they'll start thinking and move to a more viable option(s). ... and $0 + 10%gst = $0 Ummm, I don't think you understand how GST works. At least here in Oz, companies get to deduct the GST they have paid from the GST remittance they make to the government. So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so there is no advantage to using free software. jobst Regards --- Richard Sharpe, [EMAIL PROTECTED], LPIC1 www.samba.org, www.ethereal.com, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours, Special Edition, Using Samba -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
I've often wondered about this and I've often wondered why the gummint couldn't slap the GST on all CC charges originating O/S as they currently do with FID/BAD etc through the banks, CC companies, etc. Thoughts anyone? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: Why? What's the GST on zero? More importantly, how the hell can they monitor / police it ? I mean, o/s software vendors aren't going to care what the NZ tax is, and they ain't about to collect it ! Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LDAP server on Linux
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LDAP-HOWTO.html http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/index.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jeff Ai wrote: Anyone knows how to set up a LDAP server on Linux box? Netscape Server or Open LDAP. thanks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group
I agree. Just by Sluggers, Linux persons etc putting GNU/Linux or Linux/GNU in the appropriate places can we say thanks GNU to you too (TGNU2U2) :-) And, to be honest, I'd prefer to be known as a SLUGger, than a GLUGer... Although that does relate well to drinking...:-) JOn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:02:03PM +0930, Richard Sharpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of software distribution. This is actually in FAVOUR of linux. If companies have to pay more for software (add 10% to the purchase) they'll start thinking and move to a more viable option(s). ... and $0 + 10%gst = $0 Ummm, I don't think you understand how GST works. At least here in Oz, companies get to deduct the GST they have paid from the GST remittance they make to the government. I dont, thats why I have accountants! But I actually asked two of them what happens when I buy software from USA (now and future, if we need to pay 10%). Software (currently) is not taxed if you **download** it. If it gets via customs, add 10%. In the future (if this law will get through) downloads will be taxed with 10%, too! (BTW governments would be silly not to take this revenue, thinking that MOST of software will be via internet anyway!!) And yes you get *SOME* of it back. You will not get all of it back or there wouldnt be any point of the 10% GST anyway, wouldnt it So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so there is no advantage to using free software. No advantage? You have in your signature SAMBA included. Lets take that as an example, shall we? WinNT server: $600 Per seat license: $ 70 (not sure here, little bit more/less) So for a company with 20 workstations: 1x$600 20X $70 - $2000 versus Samba: $0 No incentive? You must be kidding! jobst -- My software never has bugs; it just develops random features. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
More importantly, how the hell can they monitor / police it ? I mean, o/s software vendors aren't going to care what the NZ tax is, and they ain't about to collect it ! Since when have facts, or technological possibilities, stopped governments from making stupid laws? Sorry - holidays made me simple-minded for a moment. You make a good point...:-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] LDAP server on Linux
Title: LDAP server on Linux Anyone knows how to set up a LDAP server on Linux box? Netscape Server or Open LDAP. thanks XT3 has changed its name to Ion Global Australia. Jeff Ai Tel: (612) 99002416 Direct Fax: (612) 9900 2010 Ion Global Australia http://www.ionglobal.com.au Ion Global http://www.ion-global.com/ strategic e-business integration HK | China | Singapore | Japan | Korea | Taiwan | Thailand | Australia | USA | UK chinadotcom corporation http://www.corp.china.com/ ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify Ion Global Technical Services at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:02:03PM +0930, Richard Sharpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: The NZ government Government is proposing to charge GST on software downloaded over the internet, possibly threatening the open-source model of software distribution. This is actually in FAVOUR of linux. If companies have to pay more for software (add 10% to the purchase) they'll start thinking and move to a more viable option(s). ... and $0 + 10%gst = $0 Ummm, I don't think you understand how GST works. At least here in Oz, companies get to deduct the GST they have paid from the GST remittance they make to the government. I dont, thats why I have accountants! But I actually asked two of them what happens when I buy software from USA (now and future, if we need to pay 10%). Software (currently) is not taxed if you **download** it. If it gets via customs, add 10%. In the future (if this law will get through) downloads will be taxed with 10%, too! (BTW governments would be silly not to take this revenue, thinking that MOST of software will be via internet anyway!!) And yes you get *SOME* of it back. You will not get all of it back or there wouldnt be any point of the 10% GST anyway, wouldnt it No you get all of it back, the GST is a *consumer* tax. Anything you buy for business will eventually be passed on to your customers (assuming you want to operate at a profit), if the government charges tax at both points it is double dipping. (Incidently Hanson proposed a tax that did operate like this although the rate was only 2% not 10%). Anyway by now we are hopelessly off topic and it doesn't really matter since even if you aren't paying gst on the software you are still paying for the software anyway. Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
Ummm, I don't think you understand how GST works. At least here in Oz, companies get to deduct the GST they have paid from the GST remittance they make to the government. So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so there is no advantage to using free software. only if you charge the same amount of GST to those you sell your service/product to. If you sell less, you get hit with the GST... e.g spend $1000 - get hit with $100 gst only sell $100 worth of goods - $10 GST meaning you get hit with $90 gst to pay or have paid. *i think i am correct hehe * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [JOB] PC troubleshooter
Hi, I'm after a general PC troubleshooter. Knowledge of Linux is required, but not the main part of the job. This is an entry level position and involves some travelling (mostly Sydney metro, but also NSW country). Experience with the internet (setting up/installing/etc) is an absolute requirement. Not to bore you with the details, if anyone is interested or knows someone interested, fire their details my way please. No agencies please. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Richard Sharpe So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so there is no advantage to using free software. Obviously not because Free Software is 100% less than 10% less than 110%? :) Surely there were those other advantage of Free Software in there too... Jeff, you have taken my quote completely out of context. I was responding to the claim that GST makes free software somehow more attractive than non-free software for businesses. It is just not so. As to your other claims about the advantages of free software, the situation is very complex, and perception is reality for many businesses. I am someone who lives and breathes free software, and while my record is not as resplendent as that of some others, I think it speaks for itself. However, the world is an inherently complex place, and the GPL creates difficulties for some businesses. In addition, until we have strong certification, like LPI, being pushed at businesses by all the Linux supporters around the world, free software will appear to be unsupported and unsupportable to many businesses. - Jeff -- Regards --- Richard Sharpe, [EMAIL PROTECTED], LPIC1 www.samba.org, www.ethereal.com, SAMS Teach Yourself Samba in 24 Hours, Special Edition, Using Samba -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Procmail question
quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach :0 * ^From.*jobst.* IN.sysadmin Well, conventionally, I would write that as: :0: * ^From:.*jobst IN.sysadmin (Always use the second colon when delivering to the mailbox; you don't need the extra .* at the end of your address, but I would recommend putting the complete address there when you're not in testing; adding the colon will match the From: header.) Normally, I'd put this down to procmail not being invoked, but you've provided enough evidence to the contrary. ;) Try this one: :0: * ^Subject: grobblefruit IN.test See how you go with that, and make sure that all the setup variables are defined at the start of your .procmailrc (especially MAILDIR). See http://perkypants.org/email-dream-team/procmailrc.html for this too. - Jeff -- Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
quote who=Richard Sharpe Obviously not because Free Software is 100% less than 10% less than 110%? :) Surely there were those other advantage of Free Software in there too... Jeff, you have taken my quote completely out of context. Yes, I'm sorry if that came across harshly, I was hoping that the 'take comment completely out of context' approach would prove funnier. It, ah, seems not. ;) - Jeff (harmless) -- GIMP is the primary tool in my graphics work. It is my gcc and Emacs. - Tuomas Kuosmanen (tigert) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Procmail question
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:50:48PM +1000, Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: quote who=Jobst Schmalenbach [snip] Normally, I'd put this down to procmail not being invoked, but you've provided enough evidence to the contrary. ;) [hehehe] As it turned out there was a bloody typo in the procmailrc file, the name was included was twice, as I used the copy/paste but never changed the last occurence: INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists instead of INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.sysadmin and I looked at it sooo many times and I did no see it! I am going now, its getting silly error time and I am sorry that I caused many people to look at this .. jobst -- * help! I've fallen over and I can't SIGHUP! |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 05:15:20PM +1000, Ben Leslie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:02:03PM +0930, Richard Sharpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:53:38AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] No you get all of it back, the GST is a *consumer* tax. Anything you buy for business will eventually be passed on to your customers (assuming you want to operate at a profit), if the government charges tax at both points it is double dipping. (Incidently Hanson proposed a tax that did operate like this although the rate was only 2% not 10%). Point taken then and I was wrong! Sorry to Richard Sharpe, too as I fired back to sharply. jobst -- Computers run on smoke, once the smoke gets out they don't work anymore. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 28/06/2001 at 5:32 PM Richard Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/slug] wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Richard Sharpe So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so there is no advantage to using free software. Obviously not because Free Software is 100% less than 10% less than 110%? :) Surely there were those other advantage of Free Software in there too... Jeff, you have taken my quote completely out of context. I was responding to the claim that GST makes free software somehow more attractive than non-free software for businesses. It is just not so. I would have to agree here, in Aus and I suspect NZ, we already pay highly inflated prices for most software because of a weak dollar etc etc, in many business uses many other factors come into play when deciding on a solution. I won't go into other brain dead ideas of controling the Internet, I ashamedly think we must be world leaders in this area, however any poor sod in Aus who recieves funds for registration of software that has been downloaded will already be passing on the GST in most cases. As to your other claims about the advantages of free software, the situation is very complex, and perception is reality for many businesses. This is true, but I have to say in many places I have gone, I am happy with the uptake of Linux by many Australian companies, but in the end each has to do their own deciding, I have read tech docs by so called IT professionals that would make your hair curl (reasons why X OS is superior to Y), in the end I would have to concede that obviously X is an expert at marketing and the main reason why it was chosen. I am someone who lives and breathes free software, and while my record is not as resplendent as that of some others, I think it speaks for itself. However, the world is an inherently complex place, and the GPL creates difficulties for some businesses. In addition, until we have strong certification, like LPI, being pushed at businesses by all the Linux supporters around the world, free software will appear to be unsupported and unsupportable to many businesses. Speaking of LPI and my main reason for chiming in, can you contact me off list Richard ? Also anyone interested in helping promote LPI could contact myself, LPI will be creating a formal body here to help promote the certification (funds are needed). There has been some interest in certification here, but not enough IMHO, the LPI certs are recognised by many large corporations througout the world (if there is interest on SLUG a seperate thread could be started) Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 Available for Global Contracts Int. +61 418 292020 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
Hi Matt, thanks again for your help. You were correct ... again ... it was the old XF86Config file. It did not list the version number but the heading read #Copyright (c) 1996 by the XFree86 Project, Inc Anything that old has to predate v.4.0.3 installed via apt-get. I checked your old config file [http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16/XF86Config-nv] via lynx and could immediately see the difference ... The error message from reboot after install had read Device section Primary Card must have a driver line I inserted 'Driver nv' in the appropriate place and rebooted. A slightly different GUI from that before emerged but it accepted authentification passwords and I was in. The only difference I find is that I cannot now run Enlightenment. An error message appears saying that I need the 'Shape' package. When I try 'apt-get install Shape' I get the message that it cannot find it. Any ideas ? Adam (in a much more cheerful mood). [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Setup for a Pen Plotter?
Hello Folks
Does anyone ,who has a pen plotter set up on a serial port, care to
share their /etc/printcap part, stty -a /dev/ttyS* and any other thing
that they think is relevant.
I have found a bit on setting a serial link to the printer, but I don't
fully understand it and would like to see some more examples.
If it matters, I am trying to setup a HP draftmaster 7595C plotter off
/dev/ttyS1
the part of stty -a /dev/ttyS* that I don't understand clearly is, if
I have a line like this;
-parenb -parodd cs8 hupcl -cstopb cread clocal -crtscts
Do all parts, irrespective of - or + get included in the fc#
aah- bing! is fc# the cleared or -ve octal values and fs# the set or
positive octal values.
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[SLUG] Re: jdub's apt-get/sources.list
quote who= Adam Bogacki,,, Hi Steve, whas it you who directed me to jdub's published apt/sources.list ? I can't find the original message There's a whole bunch that I've posted over time to slug in the archives. In fact, there's lots from many people. But now, for your immense enjoyment, my sources.list file as of right now! Comments below. --- # Helix GNOME #deb ftp://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian stable main # Debian US deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free #deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free # Debian AU #deb ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free # Debian Source #deb-src ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian unstable main contrib non-free #deb-src ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free # Mr Project deb ftp://ftp.codefactory.se/pub/software/mrproject/debian/ ./ # Sol1 #deb http://solutionsfirst.com.au/debian stable sol1 # Galeon #deb ftp://galeon.ufies.org/galeon/ sid/ --- I don't use Ximian/Helix GNOME anymore, as they do not support sid. Seems to be easier just to use Debian main packages unless you're on potato. I now use ftp for the most part, as http is unreliable behind Optus cable's completely shithouse proxies - it *is* best to use http though! Yeah, okay, so I use the US. Shurrup. Mr Project is a cool project from the CodeFactory boys, currently in development. It's a project management application for GNOME (and integrates with Evolution). Mr. Project because Ms. Project was already taken. ;) Sol1 is our tree of updated packages for potato, mainly serverish stuff. This is open to public use, but it can be broken at times, so don't blame us if anything goes pear shaped! Galeon is now in sid, so it's commented out. - Jeff -- To do: Start up a a magazine dedicated to picky grammar. Call it 'Whom Weekly'. - WzDD -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Friday's meeting
I haven't been before and was thinking about going to the slug meeting on Friday with a few friends and I have a couple of quick questions. The meeting is at uts, how easy is it to find the room (1.406)? Any pointers/hints? I have only ever been to the bar, but it looks like it is the same building (according to the map)? Anyway I could probably find it, but some tips always help especially when I don't know the secret knock. Also, on the slug web site it says that the meetings starts at 6:25pm, but I thought I had seen a couple of mails going around mentioning something about 7pm?? Any thing else I should know? Thanks, Matt. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Friday's meeting
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:51:27PM +1000, Matthew Clark wrote: I haven't been before and was thinking about going to the slug meeting on Friday with a few friends and I have a couple of quick questions. cool, bring lots, we've got a couple of kickass talks this month :) The meeting is at uts, how easy is it to find the room (1.406)? Any pointers/hints? I have only ever been to the bar, but it looks like it is the same building (according to the map)? Anyway I could probably find it, but some tips always help especially when I don't know the secret knock. yep, that building (the main building) street level, ie. above the bar over on the far left corner of the foyer Also, on the slug web site it says that the meetings starts at 6:25pm, but I thought I had seen a couple of mails going around mentioning something about 7pm?? the talks start at 7pm. we've got a QA session before that, and other random announcements etc. eg. if anyone's got any new code to show off, or found some cool new tool, that'll happen before 7 Any thing else I should know? bring a buck for tea and biccies during the break ;) oh and mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want to come to dinner at BBQ King afterwards Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Adam Bogacki,,, wrote: #Copyright (c) 1996 by the XFree86 Project, Inc Anything that old has to predate v.4.0.3 installed via apt-get. Oh yeah... g I inserted 'Driver nv' in the appropriate place and rebooted. A slightly different GUI from that before emerged but it accepted Probably related to the newer version of whatever you were using. authentification passwords and I was in. The only difference I find is that I cannot now run Enlightenment. An error message appears saying that I need the 'Shape' package. When I try 'apt-get install Shape' I get the message that it cannot find it. Debian packages are (and have been for a while now) all lowercase. I'd suggest trying apt-get install enlightenment (or whatever the package for it is called) after an update, which should check out dependancies for enlightenment and install everything correctly. If that doesn't help, try looking at the Debian Bug Tracking System (BTS) at http://bugs.debian.org/packagename and see if it's been mentioned. Otherwise you could consider filing a bug against the package. Either way, at this point in time, I have no suggestions, since I don't and have never in recent history used enlightenment. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LDAP server on Linux
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Jeff Ai wrote: Anyone knows how to set up a LDAP server on Linux box? Netscape Server or Open LDAP. Yeah, done it here. What is the problem? -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Adam Bogacki,,, wrote: authentification passwords and I was in. The only difference I find is that I cannot now run Enlightenment. An error message appears saying that I need the 'Shape' package. When I try 'apt-get install Shape' I get the message that it cannot find it. you need to enable the Xserver's Shape extension to run Enlightenment. Shape is what lets you have non-square windows: E uses it lots, as does xdaliclock etc. try putting the following in your XF86Config in the Module section, probably near the top: # This loads the DBE extension module Load dbe # Double buffer extension # This loads the miscellaneous extension module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection (there was some conflict with that stuff and shape or something, iirc) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Telstra Outages
No bitching but seeing telstra was out today (adsl for 7 hours) id like to encourage people to get the value of that period credited to next month. for adsl this is only about $1 ( $100*7/(24*30) ) however thats $1 that your basically giving to them $1 that could buy you some nice refreshing coke. remembering that if all customers hit them up for that $1, it would be 10,000's of dollars. something that may even inspire them to provide a product half as good as they say it might be. Dean -- EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] BONG LANS: http://www.bong.com.au ICQ: 16867613 -- Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: jdub's apt-get/sources.list
Jeff Waugh wrote: Galeon is now in sid, so it's commented out. What is sid??? KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
Actually, the message I received when I had a closer look after sending my last (success !!) message was This xserver does not support the Shape extension. This is needed for Enlightenment to run. Your Xserver is probably too old or misconfigured I know I have XFree86 Version 4.0.3 installed via apt-get but but my XF86 Config is 1996 vintage. Other uggestions I have received include apt-get install task-x-window-System (overkill perhaps, but it might work) and dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (a bit more targeted) At the moment I'm just glad to have my GUI up again but I would like to fix the anomaly sometime. I assume that Debian potato 2.2.r2 which I initially installed used XFree86 4.0.3 - it had a much more aesthetic login. Adam Bogacki. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Conrad Parker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 June, 2001 10:43 PM To: Adam Bogacki,,, Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ... On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Adam Bogacki,,, wrote: authentification passwords and I was in. The only difference I find is that I cannot now run Enlightenment. An error message appears saying that I need the 'Shape' package. When I try 'apt-get install Shape' I get the message that it cannot find it. you need to enable the Xserver's Shape extension to run Enlightenment. Shape is what lets you have non-square windows: E uses it lots, as does xdaliclock etc. try putting the following in your XF86Config in the Module section, probably near the top: # This loads the DBE extension module Load dbe # Double buffer extension # This loads the miscellaneous extension module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection (there was some conflict with that stuff and shape or something, iirc) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 01:57:08PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: [ In-Reply-To removed 'cos this is important in its own right. ] quote who=Rodos On that note is there yet a way to join slug via credit card or send a cheque? There was some discussion on the list a while ago but at the time it was being worked on. Have not heard anything since. Neither have I. The plan was to have credit card thingeries going through Linux Australia, but we've heard poop all, and I've no idea what the status of LA is at the moment anyway. That is because SLUG has never asked Linux Australia about it. You've asked me, informally, which is entirely different. I can not ask on SLUG's behalf because I am involved with both groups: - arm's length and all that. What is in the interests of SLUG may not be in the interest of LA. Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: jdub's apt-get/sources.list
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:41:30AM +1000, Ken Foskey uttered: Jeff Waugh wrote: Galeon is now in sid, so it's commented out. What is sid??? OK, 3 branches of Debian. Potato, which is known as stable. Woody, which is known as testing. Sid, which is known as unstable. From that, we can see that sid is the unstable branch of Debian. It contains much newer packages than stable, and is updated daily, if not more. Because of this, it can break. -- Steve I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest. --Me PGP signature
[SLUG] Red-Hat 7 slow - kupdate
Hi, I have recently upgraded from RedHat 6.0 on a 100Mhz Pentium to RedHat 7 on a 1GHz Pentium III. It now runs like a dog - quite regularly there is a pause when typing at the command line when nothing else running. It seems to be more prevalent when the machine has been up for a few hours. top reveals a task called kupdate to be using 99.5% of the CPU at these times. Does anyone know what's going on and how to correct it? Regards, Greg Wood. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Naive Apache question
Hi all, I want to trial a helpdesk program called IRM. It needs PHP support in Apache, so I went to install php, it tells me it needs mod_so.c installed in my apache binary (httpd). How do I add this? If it is a recompile, how do I keep all the modules that I currently have? I don't know that I need them but everything else is working smoothly, so don't want to change too much. These are the compiled in modules as shown by httpd -l. if it matters this is on RH7. Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_env.c mod_log_config.c mod_mime.c mod_negotiation.c mod_status.c mod_include.c mod_autoindex.c mod_dir.c mod_cgi.c mod_asis.c mod_imap.c mod_actions.c mod_userdir.c mod_alias.c mod_access.c mod_auth.c mod_setenvif.c Cheers, Simon Bryan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] xdvi displays RGB ! - SOLVED
Hi Guys, This is a follow up to my problem with the solution (well workaround) as I don't know WHY) so that if others have the same problem a solution will be findable. On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:21:13PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: Hi, I made a post a while ago on my fonts in xdvi appearing strange. (22 May 2001). I still have not worked out what the prob is. The rest of the text is below for reference but I found out how to fix the problem. I have to start xdvi with the option -copy (this can be put into the .Xdefaults file too as a resource). The man page says about this: -copy (.copy) Always use the copy operation when writing characters to the display. This option may be necessary for correct operation on a color display, but overstrike characters will be incorrect. If greyscale anti-aliasing is in use, the -copy operation will disable the use of colorplanes and make overstrikes come out incorrectly. I don't know why this is now required when I didn't need it before. It occurred after one of those magical mystery apt-get upgrades :-) The rest of the previous post was: When I run xdvi the fonts appear to be colour separated ie all the letters instead of being black on a white background are alternating, vertical blue/red stripes. See previous post for the details. Seems like no one here has encountered tha prob before but I have found out a few more snippets that may help someone to guess what my prob may be. If I hit 1G while in xdvi to turn on anti-aliasing the colour separation disappears but I have bitty fonts - yep expected as ani-aliasing is now off. If I type 0G to turn off aliasing I get the color-separated fonts again. other text snipped. Mike -- The first marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence, and the second the triumph of hope over experience. Michael Lake, University of Technology, Sydney Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Home: http://www.speleonics.com.au Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] installing a new squid
I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied Anyone could help?
Re: [SLUG] xdvi displays RGB ! - SOLVED
Another option, which I've found more practical in my circumstances, is to use pdflatex instead of latex with GV (or gnome-gv) as the viewer. This produces nice PDF files, if the name didn't already hint at that ;) Thus spake Mike Lake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi Guys, This is a follow up to my problem with the solution (well workaround) as I don't know WHY) so that if others have the same problem a solution will be findable. On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 01:21:13PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: Hi, I made a post a while ago on my fonts in xdvi appearing strange. (22 May 2001). I still have not worked out what the prob is. The rest of the text is below for reference but I found out how to fix the problem. I have to start xdvi with the option -copy (this can be put into the .Xdefaults file too as a resource). The man page says about this: -- Cheers, Craige, PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] installing a new squid
on Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:19:14AM +1000, Phillipus Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied Do you have a squid user and squid group? BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] installing a new squid
Your cache directory: /usr/local/squid/cache needs to be owned by squid. Do: chown squid:squid /usr/local/squid/cache OR You will need to create it first than change ownership mkdir /usr/local mkdir /usr/local/squid mkdir /usr/local/squid/cache chown squid:squid /usr/local/squid/cache Bernhard LüderThis electronic mail is solely for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you receive this electronic mail in error, please delete it from your system immediately and notify the sender by electronic mail. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Phillipus GunawanSent: Friday, 29 June 2001 10:19To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SLUG] installing a new squid I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied Anyone could help?
Re: [SLUG] installing a new squid
* This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan said: I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied Anyone could help? I'm guessing that a) your aren't running it as root b) your config files are broken More info about your setup and config would help Greeno -- Greeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] installing a new squid
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:19:14AM +1000, Phillipus Gunawan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied The directory MUST exist and squid must have permission to write, if not this is the error you get. So: mkdir /usr/local/squid/cache chown squid.squid /usr/local/squid chown squid.squid /usr/local/squid/cache chmod -R 0700 /usr/local/squid -- We're from the government, we're here to help you... |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
Adam F. Bogacki was once rumoured to have said: Actually, the message I received when I had a closer look after sending my last (success !!) message was This xserver does not support the Shape extension. This is needed for Enlightenment to run. Your Xserver is probably too old or misconfigured I know I have XFree86 Version 4.0.3 installed via apt-get but but my XF86 Config is 1996 vintage. Yes, but the config syntax changed drastically since then[1]. At the moment I'm just glad to have my GUI up again but I would like to fix the anomaly sometime. I assume that Debian potato 2.2.r2 which I initially installed used XFree86 4.0.3 - it had a much more aesthetic login. Uh, no - Debian/potato uses XFree86 3.3.6. XFree doesn't provide your login screen, your display manager does. Xfree86 4.x's XDM is the same as the one that OpenBSD has been using since at least 2.6[2], which is generally prettier than the stock Xaw[3] one that has been shipping with linux distros since the dawn of time[4]. However, most people use gdm or kdm instead of xdm because they're generally more pretty[5]. Of course, xdm is still the best option if you need XDMCP for driving XTerminals. I've never been able to get gdm to respond correctly to an indirect XDMCP session. (Indirect sessions should bring up a host chooser so you can select a machine to host your session - given I own a fair few systems, and 2 X Terminals, its a fairly important feature to have) C. [1] Just like it did between XFree86 version 2 and version 3. [2] I can't vouch for earlier, I only started using OpenBSD at 2.6. NetBSD was using the classic XDM when I started using it around 1.3. [3] Despite what Gus says about Xt being funky, Xaw is still ugly as hell. [4] Dawn of time, in this context, being when I started back in the days of XFree86 2.x. If you like calculating modelines, you would have loved XFree86 2.x [5] More proof that people *still* pick aethetics over functionality. *sigh* This is what led us to bloody windows in the first place. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 01:30:45AM +1000, Adam F. Bogacki wrote: Actually, the message I received when I had a closer look after sending my last (success !!) message was This xserver does not support the Shape extension. This is needed for Enlightenment to run. Your Xserver is probably too old or misconfigured I know I have XFree86 Version 4.0.3 installed via apt-get but but my XF86 Config is 1996 vintage. Other uggestions I have received include apt-get install task-x-window-System (overkill perhaps, but it might work) and dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (a bit more targeted) At the moment I'm just glad to have my GUI up again but I would like to fix the anomaly sometime. I assume that Debian potato 2.2.r2 which I initially installed used XFree86 4.0.3 - it had a much more aesthetic login. yes, your X server certainly supports Shape, you need to ensure that it is enabled in the XF86Config. You should make a new XF86Config file. It should probably include lines like what I posted to include Shape support, though your mileage may vary (I don't have an nvidia but I hear the problem is more general than that). apt-get install task-x-window-system would ensure to install all the code needed to get X running, but you probably already have all of this as you can already run X. I doubt your problem is that you need to install any new packages. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will run through the debianised config for XFree86-4.0.3. It will write out an XF86Config file. It put one in /root for me the other day, which was unexpected ;) Try making a new XF86Config (using dkpg-reconfigure, or by running xf86config) and check that the miscellaneous extensions (extmod are enabled in it. Make sure it is saved as either /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. (This never used to be a problem with XFree86-3, shape usually just worked. It's nice, you really do want it on a tasty video card :) Conrad. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] installing a new squid
At least the cache directories must be owned by the user that squid is run as, check the squid.conf file to see who that is if you don't know. At 10:26 29/06/2001, Tony Green wrote: * This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan said: I just installing Squid in my Box. As usually, we have to type: /usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z But the 'error' message was different than before: FATAL: failed to make swap directory /usr/local/squid/cache: (13) Permission Denied Anyone could help? I'm guessing that a) your aren't running it as root b) your config files are broken More info about your setup and config would help Greeno -- Greeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta http://www.olmc.nsw.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] xdvi displays RGB ! - SOLVED
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 10:14:23AM +1000, Craige McWhirter wrote: Another option, which I've found more practical in my circumstances, is to use pdflatex instead of latex with GV (or gnome-gv) as the viewer. This produces nice PDF files, if the name didn't already hint at that ;) Yes I have looked at pdflatex and used it but for most of my work it does not provide anything that latex/dvips doesn't provide. Though for the next issue of the Royal Society of NSW Journal that I have just finished typesetting I am thinking of sending it to the printers via a PDF file - seems like the common printing houses these days have never heard of PostScript. Mike -- The SAME WAVE keeps coming in and COLLAPSING like a rayon MUU-MUU ... Michael Lake, University of Technology, Sydney Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Home: http://www.speleonics.com.au Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Video on a TV
Howdy Does anyone know of a way to get my Linux box (RH7.1) working using the AV input on the TV ? I expect you need a special video card that supports this, but the question is can Linux support these ? Thanx Peter McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dva.net.au/ Ph 02 8977 8933 Fax 02 8977 8955Digital Voice Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [Still] Installing squid
Yes... thx Actually I've been remove my old squid totally and install the new one. I found that some folder under id 52 which I couldn't find the owner. So I changed the permission to the 'root' I try to execute '/usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z' again, this is what I got: FATAL: getgrnam failed to find groupid for effective group 'nogroup' my question is: - do we have to create the 'nogroup' as user in the box? - why? what is that for? why squid use it? - is that ok if I put the root instead nogroup? would it be become dangerous? what's the best one? - if all my question are... totally wrong.. please give me recommendation.. :) Thank You for All of You.
Re: [SLUG] [Still] Installing squid
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 11:38:57AM +1000, Phillipus Gunawan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Yes... thx Actually I've been remove my old squid totally and install the new one. Not a good idea as you killed the old config stuff. You should rename the old stuff first so you always are able to see how the old stuff worked! AND you can refer back to the old config file and USE THAT ONE and add the new stuff to it (from the new config file). I found that some folder under id 52 which I couldn't find the owner. So I changed the permission to the 'root' I try to execute '/usr/local/squid/bin/squid -z' again, this is what I got: FATAL: getgrnam failed to find groupid for effective group 'nogroup' It looks very much like you did not run: `make install` my question is: - do we have to create the 'nogroup' as user in the box? **You DONT**, your permissions are all wrong! You must have a user AND group squid. The cache directory MUST BE OWNED by squid as the first instance of squid runs under root and the next instance runs under squid. - why? what is that for? why squid use it? - is that ok if I put the root instead nogroup? would it be become dangerous? what's the best one? - if all my question are... totally wrong.. please give me recommendation.. :) http://www.squid.org and depending on your setup/distro: /usr/share/doc/squid-/ or /usr/doc/squid-/ There are LOTS of html files in there, read them all! Then read the complete config file, this give you loads of info. /etc/squid/squid.conf HINT: Squid is real easy to install cause it has really nice info/docs. They have done a great job with it! jobst -- We're from the government, we're here to help you... |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] What is LPI ? What is ELC ? -- info only
Hello All, I know some SLUG members are aware of what LPI or ELC stands for, yesterday Richard and I used the abbreviation LPI in replies, I have been asked what LPI is, so I will just put this out there. In short, LPI stands for, Linux Professional Institute, you can find more information here http://www.lpi.orgor can ask me any questions you do not have answered when you have looked at the site, LPI is run by Linux Community members and produces *NO* course material, only hi quality, neutral, non profit exams to help further Linux uptake in the Commercial world, the tests are no slam dunk, so if someone holds an LPI cert, they will have a certain skill level. LPI goals are low cost certification for all run by the Community, good stuff don't you think? :) If I use the term ELC, it is also a non profit org, till a few months ago the charter was promotion of Linux in the Embedded space (like an LI for Embedded), now we are also moving into standards in a step by step fashion, you can find more out at http://www.embedded-linux.org or again you can ask me direct. Both organisations have people from Australia SLUG members/supporters involved. Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 Available for Global Contracts Int. +61 418 292020 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 29/06/2001 at 2:11 AM Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/slug] wrote: Neither have I. The plan was to have credit card thingeries going through Linux Australia, but we've heard poop all, and I've no idea what the status of LA is at the moment anyway. That is because SLUG has never asked Linux Australia about it. You've asked me, informally, which is entirely different. I can not ask on SLUG's behalf because I am involved with both groups: - arm's length and all that. What is in the interests of SLUG may not be in the interest of LA. Anand Hey Anand.. I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 Available for Global Contracts Int. +61 418 292020 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:29:08PM +1000, Greg Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com there are two australian sites: www.cybercash.com.au (their name has changed, dunno the new one) www.cardgate.net (located in Melbourne) jobst -- Computing power increases as the square of the cost. If you want to do it twice as cheaply, you have to do it four times as fast. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com As I said last time this thread occurred... The company I work for full time (and we contract SLUGers) offers a 'non credit card/bank account' (read: NOT paypal) payment system that would easily let SLUG accept membership dues from anyone. Potential SLUG member buys it from any Australia Post office (giroPost). We were also prepared to offer SLUG a heavily discounted merchant fee. I cannot do anything more than offer. It is up to someone in the committee or enough SLUG'ers to request it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux multi disc booting story, tips
In case this is of any use to anyone... Last week I bought a new PC and loaded RH7.1 on it. The significant thing was that I bought 2 40Gb ATA100 drives for RAID mirroring, for extra reliability, and I got a motherboard with 4 IDE controllers, since my plan was to transfer the 2 old disc drives from the previous system into the new one, so I could migrate things across gradually, and re-do umpteen configuration things at my leisure. I also put each of the 40Gb drives on a separate IDE controller (ide0 and ide1), for best performance. Then I discovered that PC BIOSes won't let you boot off any but the 1st 2 IDE drives. Anyway, Bin Liao told me the trick to getting it all working as I wanted. In the BIOS, change the boot options so that it will try to boot SCSI deviices before IDE devices. That's because the UDMA ATA100 drives are treated by the BIOS as if they're SCSI, in some sense, so the next 2 IDE drives look to it like they're the first ones. After that, it was just a matter of editing /etc/fstab to put in entries for the old drives, edit the /etc/fstab on one of the old drives to use the new drive lettering (e.g. /dev/hda became hdg, hdb became hdh). The new RH7.1 kernel is on /dev/md1 (/dev/md0 is a swap partition), and the old kernels and RH installs of course are on the old discs. Then I made the same changes in /etc/lilo.conf, set it to boot off the MBR of /dev/hda (one of the new mostly-mirrored 40Gb drives). It booted up the old RH6.2 system as far as checking the partitions, then panicked because it couldn't mount the root filesystem. From the boot messages, though, it was clear that the old system had only seen ide0 and ide1, not ide2 or ide3. So I rebooted the new system, noted down the IO addresses and IRQ details for those interfaces, and put in the appropriate at the lilo boot prompt (ide2=ioaddr,ioaddr,irq ide3=...) for each of the drives, and bingo! all worked fine. One note - I (have to have) a Win98 system there, so I made the 1st partition a Windows one on each of the 2 RAID drives, and those partitions are not mirrored. The rest are. The RAID setup on RH7.1 was trivially easy - very smooth. BTW, is there a trick to copying a Windows installation from one partition to another? I tried copying one Win98 system partition to an empty one and booting off that at one stage, but it hung before going fully graphical (i.e., splash screen, flash back to console mode, load a few drivers, then the flash back to graphical mode and finish booting failed). All partitions on both 40Gb drives start and end on exaclty the same cylinders. Is there some specific block size one should specify for the dd copy, perhaps? I know there was a restriction like that when copying floppy discs of other OSes. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux multi disc booting story, tips
Luke, Thanks for an excellent write up. I was going to head down this path until I calculated that new 40GB drives + the upgraded IDE controllers to do RAID on was going to cost me more than just staying with SCSI (SCSI drive prices have dropped away significantly in the US recently, I ordered some 36GB 80MB/sec drives fairly cheap). Just one comment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The new RH7.1 kernel is on /dev/md1 (/dev/md0 is a swap partition), and the old kernels and RH installs of course are on the old discs. If you're doing software RAID in Linux, there is absolutely no gain in putting a swap partition on RAID. It's just more work for the kernel, since if you have multiple swap partitions the kernel will just stripe them automatically anyway. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian/KDE on a funkin lappy
Hey all, being a complete newby and having RTFMs for a few weeks... I am now sending a general request for hand holding on multiple topics I've got KDE up and running fine under Potato... on my pIII 600 Acer travelmate 734tl (128meg, 2 x 12gig)... got my head around dselect etc and on my way to ditching M$ and Cold Fusion to get on with my work designing web apps under Linux with PHP/apache... YAY.. but I can't get sound working (it was fine under gnome/xdm but not now under kdm/kde)... I think i need serious hand holding with this one... and althought ive got true type font working they aren't anti aliased... also the whole printing thing is going way over my head... If there is a kind sole out there who feels like nursing a newby through some of these things please send me some tips off list (or on list if you think its appropriate..) cheers Nick ducking PS: I know that debian/kde is not the simple path... but i figure if i can get it working right i will have developed a clue =) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Quick Debian Network Q.
Making a first foray into Debian networking yesterday I surprised myself by getting things working! modprobe eth0 ifup eth0 then my two route add blah blah commands one default to the Internet and one for my little LAN (if you can call 2 machines a LAN!). OK, I know how to get the module and interface loaded at boot time, but where in debian does one stick the two route command so they come up at boot. /etc/init.d/local ?? Is there an equivalent for Debian, or is it a matter of writing your own S K scripts in the appropriate /rc.? directory The debian guide mentions /etc/init.d/network but I have /etc/init.d/networking (Debian Sid BTW) Can I copy the /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network file into /etc/init.d and with suitable editing have the routing come up at boot time? jdub made mention of the /etc/network/interfaces file in the slug archives, and how this can set the default route, is this the appropriate place for my 'private' route aswell?? thanks all -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
