[SLUG] newbi
hi and greeting i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment different distrubution of linux... can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] newbi
ü su wrote: hi and greeting i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment different distrubution of linux... can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros I find this works well for me: 1. http://google.com/ search for linux 2. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=linux click on the first search result, i.e. The Linux Home Page at Linux Online 3. http://www.linux.org/ click on Distributions Pros and cons of various Linux distributions? How much time do you have? HTH HAND -rickw _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited HTML needs a rant tag - Alan Cox -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] lesstiff mozilla
I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would start working again. I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix actually works. Just thought I would publish it here because others might have experienced this same problem. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] newbi
even better.. www.google.com/linux -Original Message- From: Rick Welykochy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 28 January 2002 11:46 PM To: ü su Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] newbi 1. http://google.com/ search for linux -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] newbi
ok well generally distributiuons like Slackware and Debian are for more experienced users, where as distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, Caldera, and Corel are for less experienced people because they have alot of scripts to automate things like configuration of hardware, or setting up an internet connection, etc. They usually have a very simple installation process too, where as distributions like Peanut Linux are simple to use, but aren't so simple to install because disk partitioning and making the filesystems needs to be done manually by you. Hope this gives you a bit of an idea. -Original Message- From: C su [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 28 January 2002 9:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] newbi hi and greeting i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment different distrubution of linux... can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting
do you have an old hard disk? once I had Red Hat 6.0 installed on an old machine and every now and then when i was booting linux it would tell me that my hard disk is due for a check. I could never figure out why except that maybe because the disk was old and already had a few bad clusters, it would do a routine check to make sure the old disk is still going properly... i dunno, thats just a guess.. -Original Message- From: Paul Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2002 11:43 PM To: SLUG List Subject: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting Hi All, I am a little confused at present. Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE 7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 (the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk. Now when it shuts down, it tells me that is unmounting all the disks and hdb3 is supposedly unmounted. But the next time I boot in it tells me it is not cleanly unmounted. I have checked all the included docs and have been to the SuSe website, but I haven't found an answer. The only thing I can think is I recently dleted Wine from my hardrive and since then the problems have started. Does anyone have any ideas, or has this happened to anyone else? Regards Paul See part of boot log messages below, Kernel logging (ksyslog) stopped. Kernel log daemon terminating. Boot logging started on /dev/tty1(/dev/console) at Mon Jan 28 10:01:56 2002 fbmngplay: no process killed Run file system check on root for LVM activation doneRemounting root file system (/) read/write for vgscan... Scanning for LVM volume groups... vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...) vgscan -- /etc/lvmtab and /etc/lvmtab.d successfully created vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume group Activating LVM volume groups... vgchange -- no volume groups found Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab... doneChecking file systems... fsck 1.24a (02-Sep-2001) /dev/hdb3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. /dev/hdb3: |= | 1.2% [snipped] || 100.0% /dev/hdb3: 116909/948416 files (0.5% non-contiguous), 953591/1895670 blocks /dev/hdb1: clean, 32/5664 files, 4193/22648 blocks doneMounting local file systems... proc on /proc type proc (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5) /dev/hdb1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) doneActivating remaining swap-devices in /etc/fstab... doneSetting up the CMOS clockdone Setting up timezone datadone Setting up loopback devicedone Setting up hostnamedone Mount SHM FS on /dev/shmdone Configuring serial ports... ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A Configured serial ports doneRunning /etc/init.d/boot.local doneCreating /var/log/boot.msg donenoticekillproc: kill(23,29) Enabling syn flood protectiondone Disabling IP forwardingdone noticekillproc: kill(23,3) INIT: Entering runlevel: 5 Boot logging started on /dev/tty1(/dev/console) at Sun Jan 27 23:03:34 2002 Master Resource Control: previous runlevel: N, switching to runlevel: 5 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla
does that apply to Xfree v4 or only the older versions? -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 6:07 AM To: slug Subject: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would start working again. I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix actually works. Just thought I would publish it here because others might have experienced this same problem. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla
Sorry, my missunderstanding. Its a Mozilla/Netscape bug, not Xfree. -Original Message- From: Chris Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 1:10 PM To: SLUG (E-mail) Subject: RE: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla does that apply to Xfree v4 or only the older versions? -Original Message- From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 6:07 AM To: slug Subject: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would start working again. I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix actually works. Just thought I would publish it here because others might have experienced this same problem. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug Searching for A Better Way to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to http://www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] A quick LaTeX
Unfortunately, it's not obvious from Lamport's book. Consider the following :--- \documentclass[12pt]{report} \begin{document} {\footnotesize The quick brown fox} and later {\tiny The quick brown fox} \end{document} Could anyone tell me, please, what point sizes will be produced in these two cases? Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [OT] Connexus DSL?
Not strictly on topic, but I've got someone looking to implement connexus' SDSL products in a big way. Has anyone had any experience with them? Cheers, Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Does java compiler with Suns JDK supports multiprocessors in Linux
Hello I have had a look on the web, but can't seem to find much information on this. Does anyone know if the java compilers and runtime environments included with Suns JDK 1.3 and 1.4 take advantage of a multiprocessor linux system(Assume a fairly recent stable kernel) or will they use(in a 2 processor system) just one processor. I want to speed up compile times but am not sure if a multiprocessor system will do it. I don't know if this is a function of the java compiler itself or the operating system. -- Cheers Tony _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting
On 27 Jan 02, at 23:42, Paul Copeland wrote about: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting I am a little confused at present. Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE 7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 (the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk. Now when it shuts down, it tells me that is unmounting all the disks and hdb3 is supposedly unmounted. But the next time I boot in it tells me it is not cleanly unmounted. [snip] WARNING: This remedy can f*ck your hdd (but it has worked for me). *** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK *** *** NO responsibility is accepted etc... *** BEFORE you begin: man fsck man e2fsck then: 1. Force a manual fsck: fsck -f /dev/hdb3 (take the default answer to every question!) 2. Repeat 1. above. If no errors are reported, you have fixed it (cheers - STOP HERE). 3. If 2. fails with the same or further errors: fsck -fc /dev/hdb3 (take the default answer to every question!) 4. Repeat 1. above. If no errors are reported, you have fixed it (cheers). If otherwise, the hdd is severely f*cked, throw it out and start again. Good luck, Russell --- Post HTML at your own risk --- Not everyone uses mail readers that can easily display HTML messages. Consequently, you will reach a larger audience if you post your messages in plain-text. Many people simply ignore HTML messages, because it takes a nontrivial amount of effort to read them. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting
Paul Copeland was once rumoured to have said: Hi All, I am a little confused at present. Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE 7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 (the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk. It is possible that a process is still running on a filesystem which has prevented it from being unmounted properly. Debian (IIRC) handles this case by doing a second pass to remount any remaining filesystems after the unmount pass as read-only. I've not seen any other distros implement this behaviour. I have seen this one crop up from time to time however, so its not entirely out of the realms of probability. Another possibility is caches/buffers not being flushed to disk completely before the reset/power-down occurs, however this is a definately shouldn't happen case. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Does java compiler with Suns JDK supports multiprocessors in Linux
I have had a look on the web, but can't seem to find much information on this. Does anyone know if the java compilers and runtime environments included with Suns JDK 1.3 and 1.4 take advantage of a multiprocessor linux system(Assume a fairly recent stable kernel) or will they use(in a 2 processor system) just one processor. I want to speed up compile times but am not sure if a multiprocessor system will do it. I don't know if this is a function of the java compiler itself or the operating system. I would be very surprised if the compiler knew (or cared) how many processors are present. It should be transparently handled by the OS not the compiler itself. Especially given that javac produces bytecode for a VM not a particular hardware architecture. As to whether another processor would speed up compile times that's another question - I would certainly imagine it would but maybe compiling is one of those weird things that multiple processors aren't so good at... anyone else know? S. :) PLEASE NOTE: This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, you must not use, disclose or print this transmission and you should delete it from your system. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1
Dears: I installed RedHat choosed No_Firewall,then modify /etc/securetty by adding 0 1 2 3 (0 1 2 3 means that 4 tty(s) can telnet this host as root) I just cant telnet from outside as root though I can ping from outside Could someone help me ? TIA Henry
Re: [SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 17:01, henry wrote: Dears: Ooh! I just cant telnet from outside as root though I can ping from outside Check in /etc/xinetd.d (I think, I don't use Red hat but helped someone with this recently) and look in the config file for telnet. There is an option line in there for enable which should be yes. HTH. By the way you should really be using SSH. And if you really do want to use telnet only enable it for the period required. TIA Henry -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1
just as a test, try removing /etc/securetty by doing cp /etc/securetty /etc/securetty.orig now try to telnet in as root from the outside and see if that works. I had the same problem and found that removing the file fixed the problem ( i dont know if its the right way to fix it tho ) -Original Message-From: henry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 5:02 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1 Dears: I installed RedHat choosed No_Firewall,then modify /etc/securetty by adding 0 1 2 3 (0 1 2 3 means that 4 tty(s) can telnet this host as root) I just cant telnet from outside as root though I can ping from outside Could someone help me ? TIA Henry Searching for "A Better Way" to a home loan ?. Call RAMS on 13 7267, or go to www.rams.com.au The e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you receive it in error you must not use or disclose the information. You must tell us and delete it. We do not waive any legal privilege by sending it. RAMS does not promise that the email is free from virus defect or error