[SLUG] newbi

2002-01-28 Thread ˜Ã–¼ su

hi and greeting

i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment 
different distrubution of linux...

can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros



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Re: [SLUG] newbi

2002-01-28 Thread Rick Welykochy

ü su wrote:
 
 hi and greeting
 
 i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment
 different distrubution of linux...
 
 can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros

I find this works well for me:


1. http://google.com/
   search for linux

2. http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=linux
   click on the first search result, i.e. The Linux Home Page at Linux Online

3. http://www.linux.org/
   click on Distributions

Pros and cons of various Linux distributions? How much time do you have?

HTH HAND

-rickw


 
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[SLUG] lesstiff mozilla

2002-01-28 Thread Ken Foskey


I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that
there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input
and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would
start working again.

I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix
actually works.  Just thought I would publish it here because others
might have experienced this same problem.

KenF



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RE: [SLUG] newbi

2002-01-28 Thread George Vieira

even better..

www.google.com/linux

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] newbi



1. http://google.com/
   search for linux
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RE: [SLUG] newbi

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes

ok well generally distributiuons like Slackware and Debian are for more
experienced users, where as distributions like Mandrake, Red Hat, Caldera,
and Corel are for less experienced people because they have alot of scripts
to automate things like configuration of hardware, or setting up an internet
connection, etc. They usually have a very simple installation process too,
where as distributions like Peanut Linux are simple to use, but aren't so
simple to install because disk partitioning and making the filesystems needs
to be done manually by you.

Hope this gives you a bit of an idea.


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Subject: [SLUG] newbi


hi and greeting

i'm new to linux, i read lost of newbies books, but they all recomment 
different distrubution of linux...

can someone please tell me what linux distrubtion and whats for the pros



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RE: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes

do you have an old hard disk? once I had Red Hat 6.0 installed on an old
machine and every now and then when i was booting linux it would tell me
that my hard disk is due for a check. I could never figure out why except
that maybe because the disk was old and already had a few bad clusters, it
would do a routine check to make sure the old disk is still going
properly...

i dunno, thats just a guess..

-Original Message-
From: Paul Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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To: SLUG List
Subject: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting


Hi All,

I am a little confused at present.  Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE

7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 
(the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk.

Now when it shuts down, it tells me that is unmounting all the disks and
hdb3 
is supposedly unmounted.  But the next time I boot in it tells me it is not 
cleanly unmounted.  I have checked all the included docs and have been to
the 
SuSe website, but I haven't found an answer.  

The only thing I can think is I recently dleted Wine from my hardrive and 
since then the problems have started.  Does anyone have any ideas, or has 
this happened to anyone else?

Regards
Paul

See part of boot log messages below,

Kernel logging (ksyslog) stopped.
Kernel log daemon terminating.
Boot logging started on /dev/tty1(/dev/console) at Mon Jan 28 10:01:56 2002
fbmngplay: no process killed
Run file system check on root for LVM activation
doneRemounting root file system (/) read/write for vgscan...
Scanning for LVM volume groups...
vgscan -- reading all physical volumes (this may take a while...)
vgscan -- /etc/lvmtab and /etc/lvmtab.d successfully created
vgscan -- WARNING: This program does not do a VGDA backup of your volume
group

Activating LVM volume groups...
vgchange -- no volume groups found

Activating swap-devices in /etc/fstab...
doneChecking file systems...
fsck 1.24a (02-Sep-2001)
/dev/hdb3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
/dev/hdb3: |=   |  1.2%

[snipped] || 100.0%

 

 /dev/hdb3: 116909/948416 files (0.5% non-contiguous), 953591/1895670 blocks
/dev/hdb1: clean, 32/5664 files, 4193/22648 blocks
doneMounting local file systems...
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/hdb1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
doneActivating remaining swap-devices in /etc/fstab...
doneSetting up the CMOS clockdone
Setting up timezone datadone
Setting up loopback devicedone
Setting up hostnamedone
Mount SHM FS on /dev/shmdone
Configuring serial ports...
ttyS0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Configured serial ports
doneRunning /etc/init.d/boot.local
doneCreating /var/log/boot.msg
donenoticekillproc: kill(23,29)
Enabling syn flood protectiondone
Disabling IP forwardingdone
noticekillproc: kill(23,3)
INIT: Entering runlevel: 5
Boot logging started on /dev/tty1(/dev/console) at Sun Jan 27 23:03:34 2002
Master Resource Control: previous runlevel: N, switching to runlevel: 5

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RE: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes

does that apply to Xfree v4 or only the older versions?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 6:07 AM
To: slug
Subject: [SLUG] lesstiff  mozilla



I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that
there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input
and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would
start working again.

I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix
actually works.  Just thought I would publish it here because others
might have experienced this same problem.

KenF



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RE: [SLUG] lesstiff mozilla

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes

Sorry, my missunderstanding. Its a Mozilla/Netscape bug, not Xfree.

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does that apply to Xfree v4 or only the older versions?

-Original Message-
From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 6:07 AM
To: slug
Subject: [SLUG] lesstiff  mozilla



I was reading xfree86 for linux ($20 from DFO homebush) and it said that
there was a bug in netscape that sometimes it would stop accepting input
and you simply switch to another program and back again and it would
start working again.

I have noticed this bug in Mozilla (latest release) and this fix
actually works.  Just thought I would publish it here because others
might have experienced this same problem.

KenF



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[SLUG] A quick LaTeX

2002-01-28 Thread Bill Bennett

Unfortunately, it's not obvious from Lamport's book.

Consider the following :---

\documentclass[12pt]{report}
\begin{document} 
{\footnotesize The quick brown fox}

and later

{\tiny The quick brown fox}
\end{document}

Could anyone tell me, please, what point sizes will be produced
in these two cases?

Bill Bennett.
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[SLUG] [OT] Connexus DSL?

2002-01-28 Thread Matthew Moor

Not strictly on topic, but I've got someone looking to implement connexus' 
SDSL products in a big way.

Has anyone had any experience with them?

Cheers,

Matt

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[SLUG] Does java compiler with Suns JDK supports multiprocessors in Linux

2002-01-28 Thread Antony Stace

Hello

I have had a look on the web, but can't seem to find much information on this.
Does anyone know if the java compilers and runtime environments included with Suns JDK 
1.3 and 1.4 
take advantage of a multiprocessor linux system(Assume a fairly recent stable kernel) 
or will they use(in a 2 processor
system) just one processor.  I want to speed up compile times but am not sure if a 
multiprocessor system will do it.
  
I don't know if this is a function of the java compiler itself or the operating system.



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Re: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting

2002-01-28 Thread russell

On 27 Jan 02, at 23:42, Paul Copeland wrote about:
[SLUG] Unclean Unmounting
 
 I am a little confused at present.  Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE 
 7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 
 (the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk.
 
 Now when it shuts down, it tells me that is unmounting all the disks and hdb3 
 is supposedly unmounted.  But the next time I boot in it tells me it is not 
 cleanly unmounted. [snip]

WARNING: This remedy can f*ck your hdd (but it has worked for 
me).  

*** USE AT YOUR OWN RISK ***

*** NO responsibility is accepted etc... ***

BEFORE you begin:
man fsck
man e2fsck

then:
1. Force a manual fsck:
fsck -f /dev/hdb3
(take the default answer to every question!)

2. Repeat 1. above.  If no errors are reported, you have fixed it 
(cheers - STOP HERE).

3. If 2. fails with the same or further errors:
fsck -fc /dev/hdb3
(take the default answer to every question!)

4. Repeat 1. above.  If no errors are reported, you have fixed it 
(cheers).  If otherwise, the hdd is severely f*cked, throw it out and 
start again.

Good luck,

Russell


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Re: [SLUG] Unclean Unmounting

2002-01-28 Thread Crossfire

Paul Copeland was once rumoured to have said:
 Hi All,
 
 I am a little confused at present.  Lately everytime I boot into Linux (SuSE 
 7.3 Personal), nearly all the time now, my boot messages tell me that hdb3 
 (the / partition) was not unmounted cleanly, so it scans the disk.

It is possible that a process is still running on a filesystem which
has prevented it from being unmounted properly.  Debian (IIRC) handles
this case by doing a second pass to remount any remaining filesystems
after the unmount pass as read-only.  I've not seen any other distros
implement this behaviour.  I have seen this one crop up from time to
time however, so its not entirely out of the realms of probability.

Another possibility is caches/buffers not being flushed to disk
completely before the reset/power-down occurs, however this is a
definately shouldn't happen case.

C.
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RE: [SLUG] Does java compiler with Suns JDK supports multiprocessors in Linux

2002-01-28 Thread Silcock, Stephen

 I have had a look on the web, but can't seem to find much 
 information on this.
 Does anyone know if the java compilers and runtime 
 environments included with Suns JDK 1.3 and 1.4 
 take advantage of a multiprocessor linux system(Assume a 
 fairly recent stable kernel) or will they use(in a 2 processor
 system) just one processor.  I want to speed up compile times 
 but am not sure if a multiprocessor system will do it.
   
 I don't know if this is a function of the java compiler 
 itself or the operating system.

I would be very surprised if the compiler knew (or cared) how many
processors are present.  It should be transparently handled by the OS not
the compiler itself.  Especially given that javac produces bytecode for a VM
not a particular hardware architecture.

As to whether another processor would speed up compile times that's another
question - I would certainly imagine it would but maybe compiling is one of
those weird things that multiple processors aren't so good at... anyone else
know?

S.   :)


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[SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1

2002-01-28 Thread henry



Dears:
 I installed RedHat choosed 
No_Firewall,then modify /etc/securetty by adding 
0
1
2
3
(0 1 2 3 means that 4 tty(s) can telnet this host as 
root)
 I just cant telnet from outside 
as root though I can ping from outside
Could someone help me ?

TIA
Henry


Re: [SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1

2002-01-28 Thread Simon Wong

On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 17:01, henry wrote:
 Dears:

Ooh!

  I just cant telnet  from outside as root though I can ping from outside

Check in /etc/xinetd.d (I think, I don't use Red hat but helped someone
with this recently) and look in the config file for telnet.  There is an
option line in there for enable which should be yes.

HTH.

By the way you should really be using SSH.  And if you really do want to
use telnet only enable it for the period required.





 
 TIA
 Henry
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RE: [SLUG] help : telnet RedHat7.1

2002-01-28 Thread Chris Barnes



just 
as a test, try removing /etc/securetty by doing cp /etc/securetty 
/etc/securetty.orig

now 
try to telnet in as root from the outside and see if that 
works.
I had 
the same problem and found that removing the file fixed the problem ( i dont 
know if its the right way to fix it tho )

  -Original Message-From: henry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 29 January 2002 5:02 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SLUG] help : telnet 
  RedHat7.1
  Dears:
   I installed RedHat choosed 
  No_Firewall,then modify /etc/securetty by adding 
  0
  1
  2
  3
  (0 1 2 3 means that 4 tty(s) can telnet this host as 
  root)
   I just cant telnet from 
  outside as root though I can ping from outside
  Could someone help me ?
  
  TIA
  Henry

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