Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [SLUG] Cron Weird Problem from a newby]]]]
That sounds a little like /usr/bin/crontab is not executable due to
problems in shared libraries or ldconfig version.
What happens if you say:
ldd /usr/bin/crontab
*** Output follows:
+++
[root@ensim admin]# ldd /usr/bin/crontab
libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x4001e000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
[root@ensim admin]#
+++
You could also try:
strace /usr/bin/crontab -l
and see what kind of errors happen near the end.
Output follows. This is a long one, and I do not understand any of it.
[root@ensim admin]# strace /usr/bin/crontab -l
execve(/usr/bin/crontab, [/usr/bin/crontab, -l], [/* 21 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys=Linux, node=ensim.rackshack.net, ...}) = 0
brk(0) = 0x804dd70
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x40017000
open(/etc/ld.so.preload, O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21334, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 21334, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000
close(3)= 0
open(/lib/i686/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\307\1..., 1024) =
1024
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=5779542, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 1291464, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001e000
mprotect(0x4015, 38088, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x4015, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3,
0x131000) = 0x4015
old_mmap(0x40156000, 13512, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40156000
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x40018000, 21334) = 0
getpid()= 8073
brk(0) = 0x804dd70
brk(0x804dd98) = 0x804dd98
brk(0x804e000) = 0x804e000
open(/usr/share/locale/locale.alias, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2601, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x40018000
read(3, # Locale name alias data base.\n#..., 4096) = 2601
brk(0x804f000) = 0x804f000
read(3, , 4096) = 0
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x40018000, 4096)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_IDENTIFICATION, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=370, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 370, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_MEASUREMENT, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=28, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 28, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40019000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_TELEPHONE, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=64, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 64, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001a000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_ADDRESS, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=160, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 160, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001b000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_NAME, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=82, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 82, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001c000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_PAPER, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=39, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 39, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001d000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=57, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 57, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4015a000
close(3)= 0
brk(0x805) = 0x805
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_MONETARY, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=291, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 291, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4015b000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_COLLATE, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21499, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 21499, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4015c000
close(3)= 0
open(/usr/lib/locale/en_US/LC_TIME, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2456, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 2456, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40162000
close(3)= 0
RE: [Re: [SLUG] Cannot See Perl CPAN Modules for Linux]
Can you reproduce the *exact* error message you get from perl, in its entirety pls. (I've lost the original thread ... what module are you trying to install?) I am trying to install LWP::Simple, and MIME::Base64, on my dedicated server that run red hat Linux 7.1 OS. I installed them as root by manually going to /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 created the directories for these modules, set permissions to 755, and then uploaded the .pm packages in the proper places. I know this is not how CPAN says to install modules. But I have installed some when I was using a shared server, and was installing them this way on my own web space, and it worked fine. I don't think that the approach I took to install is the cause of my problems, but I am no expert. Anyway my problem is that for user accounts, other than root and admin, that I created before I installed these new modules, when I go to /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 at the user account shell I do not see the directory LWP, and MIME that I created. Perl still complains about Simple.pm not found in INC when I try to run my script. I can see the new directories and modules, when I go to the directory as user admin, and root. Do user accounts use a seperate partition for the Perl directories ? Louis. -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [SLUG] Cron Weird Problem from a newby]]]
At 7:02 pm, Tuesday, April 16 2002, Ken Foskey mumbled:
This combine with your perl question suggests a corrupt harddisk, might
be fsck time. Dont ask me have not done this properly in Geoffs LPIC
class yet :-)
Feh. Reboot into single-user mode ('linux single' at the LILO prompt), and
fsck all the hard drives you want.
On bootup, fsck is run with some options (I can't remember which, sorry)
that make it more paranoid, and to only fix slight errors. When you run it
without any options, it runs a 5-pass through check over the filesystem.
There, top of the class. :-)
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paint their hostname and root password on an interstate
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
At 12:07 pm, Sunday, April 14 2002, Dane mumbled: I think its awfully presumptuous to think that the LinuxChix dont want to meet LinuxGuys. Funnily enough, girls have an opinion too. If some girls are anything like me (and I hope to $DEITY there *aren't*, as I think I'm seriously disturbed), they wouldn't want to be involved with anyone that works in computers. I'd turn up but Im pretty sexy so I fear that I would be singled out and ogled and drooled over. Okaay, then. I do admit that it is a possibility that my mere presence would attract a greater female attendance to the LinuxChix meetings but I refuse to prostitute myself for the Linux cause like this. My, aren't we confident. Keep living in that dream. It must be good. -- Steve Portable, adj.: Survives system reboot. msg22550/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I'd turn up but Im pretty sexy so I fear that I would be singled out and ogled and drooled over. Okaay, then. No, not drooled, so much as vomited over !! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Latex - double indent of paragraph
A latex question - how do you double indent a paragraph?
I'm not having much luck on google. Might be a jargon problem.
I'm basically listing a question, then typing a response, but I want to
have the sides of the response paragraphs moved inwards. In WP (and
others), this was known as double indenting.
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RE: [SLUG] Newbie
i have had alot of problems getting Wine to work properly too..alot of it comes down to the type of program you use and how complicated it is i think...I could easily get things like Winzip to install and work, i think i once got ICQ2000 to install, but i could never run The Secret of Monkey Island...not even in DOSEMU =o( nor Maniac Mansion for DOS As for other games...I went to my friendly local Linux store Everything Linux and bought Quake3 Arena, Unreal Tournament, Heretic 2...and Rail Road Tycoon 2. If you have already bought any of these games and dont wish to buy them again for linux most of id's games have free binaries you can download for various platforms. All you need is the data files for each game which you can copy off the game cd-rom for windows (or which ever platform you may have it for). hope this helps you.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brock H. Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2002 2:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Newbie Well I'm a newbie to the slug list. And I'm not entirely new to linux but I still have my issues with it. My main issue is that of wine. Wine seems like a good idea but it never seems to work. I've seen screen shots of other people getting it to work but even in our local LUG I never saw any one acctually using it. Is this because it's so hard to setup or what? And are there any linux gamers out there who can attest to easy of use and usability of WineX for playing games? Sorry I know it's a lot to drop out there for a first post. Tekchip [EMAIL PROTECTED] do bee do bee do...beware the penguin. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Next SLUG Meeting - Friday, 26th April, 2002
Next SLUG Meeting - Friday, 26th April, 2002 * When: 6:30pm - about 8:30pm (then dinner, etc) * Where: UTS, Central Sydney, http://slug.org.au/slugmeet.shtml * RSVP: Please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED] this month for dinner, as we're going to a new restaurant. Thanks! The Usual Suspects - 6:30pm * QA - What has Linux done for/to me lately? * Linux News Discussion Postfix: Buffy the Mail Transfer Agent - Jeff Waugh An introduction to the Postfix Mail Transfer Agent, how it works, and cool stuff you can do with your email. Introduction to the Python language - Andrew Bennetts This talk will briefly cover basic Python, followed by a tour of some more advanced topics. Topics are likely to include: * the interactive interpreter * lists, tuples and dictionaries * functions, classes and methods * Python's object system (basically everything is an object) * functional-style programming with Python * some fun stuff new in Python 2.x: + list comprehensions, generators, nested scopes, ... * tricks with classes and objects: + the Borg pattern + changing an object's class at runtime (how, and why) * anything else I can think of, depending on time! This talk is basically a brief introduction to hopefully whet your appetite for more in-depth talks (both on the core language and on libraries available for Python), to be presented at the soon-to-be-announced Python-SIG! Dinner - about 9pm If Boiled Television Entrails aren't seducing you to post-SLUG-meeting dinners anymore (like many of us), you'll be pleased to know that we're trying out a new restaurant this month: Spice Boys. Please make sure you RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so we can give them an idea of numbers. - Jeff -- We're passe with class, eh? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] pdf to text
I think Ghostscript has the tool called pdftotext Regards Chris -Original Message- From: David To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16/04/02 20:44 pm Subject: [SLUG] pdf to text Are there any tools for doing this? TIA, David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] pdf to text
oops or maybe xpdf comes with the tool according to man pdftotext Chris -Original Message- From: David To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16/04/02 20:44 pm Subject: [SLUG] pdf to text Are there any tools for doing this? TIA, David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [SLUG] Cron Weird Problem from a newby]]]]
On 16 Apr, Louis Selvon wrote:
That sounds a little like /usr/bin/crontab is not executable due to
problems in shared libraries or ldconfig version.
What happens if you say:
ldd /usr/bin/crontab
*** Output follows:
+++
[root@ensim admin]# ldd /usr/bin/crontab
libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x4001e000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
That looks good and correct.
You could also try:
strace /usr/bin/crontab -l
and see what kind of errors happen near the end.
Output follows. This is a long one, and I do not understand any of it.
[...]
send(3, 78Apr 16 19:34:33 crontab[8073..., 54, 0) = 54
rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0
open(cron/root, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
write(2, no crontab for root\n, 20no crontab for root
) = 20
_exit(1)= ?
Odd. That isn't the error being reported from bash, which from memory
was: /bin/bash: /usr/bin/crontab: file not found
Anyway, it sounds very like the crontab -e did not in fact create a
crontab file for root. Weird!
luke
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I struggle with the notion that so many people who theoretically have such great intellect fail miserably in understanding the notion of sarcasm or hyperbole. For a bunch of smart people, you sure are pretty stupid. So keen to twist issues based upon gender or maturity, you seem to lack any common sense. Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Do you even remember what you are so incensed about? Did I offend your sensibilities as a woman? I apologise. This was never my intent. Do I regret my childish and immature comments? Not for a second. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. XO Dane -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:16:52AM +1000, Dane wrote: Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Nono, it's simply a desire not to spend time that could be used learning about Linux arguing with people who do any of the following: * Tell people to RTFM. * Hit on women at random. * Make idiotic jokes and claim that a failure to appreciate such jokes has something to do with us not having a sense of humour, as opposed to say, the joke being rude or really dumb. Trust me, it would be really hard for me to be feeling excessively inferior right about now. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. But it's pretty unlikely, you have to admit. -Mary. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:16:52AM +1000, Dane wrote: I struggle with the notion that so many people who theoretically have such great intellect fail miserably in understanding the notion of sarcasm or hyperbole. Except that it wasn't funny. Incidentally, if you find something funny that offends others, does that mean that they have no right to be offended? Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Do you even remember what you are so incensed about? Now that's definitely not funny. Just because you don't feel threatened by male-dominated environments, doesn't mean all women don't feel threatened either. Stupid comments like excessive inferiority complex only serve to reinforce that SLUG is not a welcoming environment for women. I can see that; why can't you? Just because you think it doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't happen and doesn't make sense to other people. I wish that SLUG was completely newbie-friendly, and unintimidating to everybody. By everybody I mean women, curious Windows users, 72-year-old grandmas, everybody. Now I don't speak for the whole of SLUG or the committe, but I think most people would agree that appealing to a broad audience can only be a good thing. I realise that degree of accessibility is not easy, but there are some obvious things that don't help. Telling people that they are stupid, which you have essentially just done, doesn't help. Did I offend your sensibilities as a woman? I apologise. This was never my intent. What is your intent? Do I regret my childish and immature comments? Not for a second. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. Saying that you never intended to offend someone, then telling them to grow up and suggesting they have an excessive inferiority complex is a bit contradictory. And here's another contradiction for you: the more you insist that you are right, the more likely it is that some women will not want to be part of SLUG, even though if you are right, that shouldn't happen. Can you see why? This problem people have with LinuxChix seems as silly to me as if people started talking about Seperatist Debians, just because there is a Debian-SIG. If you are merely trolling, please stop. Posts like yours damage SLUG, by scaring away potential members (in this case, women). Some will choose to be part of SLUG anyway, but I fear that the perceived attitude of SLUG towards women is going to suffer long-term harm because of the posts of a few individuals. -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] pdf to text
This one time, at band camp, David wrote: Are there any tools for doing this? willow% apt-cache search pdf text ... pstotext - Extract text from PostScript and PDF files ... So, on Debian, there's the pstotext package. http://www.research.compaq.com/SRC/virtualpaper/pstotext.html for the packaging challenged amongst you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg 90% of the time, you're wrong about where you spend 90% of the time. -- gstein, advogato.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 12:27:53AM +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: Just because you don't feel threatened by male-dominated environments, doesn't mean all women don't feel threatened either. Stupid comments like excessive inferiority complex only serve to reinforce that SLUG is not a welcoming environment for women. I can see that; why can't you? I think perhaps Neal Stephenson summed it up rather well in 'Snow Crash': It was, of course, nothing more than sexism, the especially virulent type espoused by male techies who sincerely believe that they are too smart to be sexists. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian Seperatists (was: LinuxChix chapter in Sydney)
On Wed 17 Apr, Andrew Bennetts bloviated thus: This problem people have with LinuxChix seems as silly to me as if people started talking about Seperatist Debians, just because there is a Debian-SIG. Now there's an idea! Ve don't need your steenking lee-nucks. Ve are quite happy vis our gunoo-lee-nucks sankyouverymooch. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net Send email with subject send key pub for public key. Democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. - Winston Churchill msg22565/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [SLUG] Backup Mail servers (OT)
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 03:54:30PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello David, DF well that's what the discussion has been about, search back a few weeks DF for the replies to my thread on the subject of secondary mx's. DF If you have a secondary on the same site as your primary then it covers DF you if the primary goes down but not if your site is cut off from the DF net. You could then have a tertiary mx that is off site of course. DF Or you could not have any. It is my understanding that a secondary MX will still reject the mail 5 days after just like any other mailserver on the net would if you don't have a server up and running that can collect the mail or That really depends on how it is setup; I'm doing secondary for one domain which has been off the air for almost a week now. I'm just queueing the mail. They'll let me know once they are back up and I'll send it all on. there is a downside... the secondary can be used to spam you, as it can't check if they are a valid account until it's shunted to the primary or a server that deals with it... But the primary can quite happily refuse to accept email even from a secondary[*]. If you turn on 'sender_verify_callback_domain = *' in Exim you'll probably catch a lot of spam no matter where it is from. Anand [*]: Technically you are violating the standard because your MX has agreed to deliver the message but the ultimate destination is refusing to accept it. But who cares, it is spam. -- `` We are shaped by our thoughts, we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves. '' -- Buddha, The Dhammapada -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] pdf to text
quote who=Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP oops or maybe xpdf comes with the tool according to man pdftotext You are correct, sir! J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Source Software: Free as in Free Speech, not Free Beer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] pdf to text
David wrote: Are there any tools for doing this? You might start with this PDF to HTML converter http://www.ra.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~gosho/pdftohtml/ Dunno how good it is. -rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Re: [SLUG] Cannot See Perl CPAN Modules for Linux]
LS wrote: I know this is not how CPAN says to install modules. But I have installed some when I was using a shared server, and was installing them this way on my own web space, and it worked fine. I don't think that the approach I took to install is the cause of my problems, but I am no expert. Then I would suggest you install the modules using the suggested technique: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install at the user account shell I do not see the directory LWP, and MIME that I created. Perl still complains about Simple.pm not found in INC when I try to run my script. Can you reproduce the *exact* error message you get from perl, in its entirety pls. -rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems
I need a software that enables me to penetrate in to systems can any body help me
[SLUG] I need a software that enables me to penetrate in to systems
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[SLUG] Best Distribution (was: [chat] Re: Newbie list)
On 16 Apr 2002, Ken Foskey wrote: I'm taking a wild punt but I believe that Faq-o-matic or something similar may be what you're thinking. FAQ: What is the best distribution to use. Answer: Dont ever ask this question! There is no answer to this. A nice summary is in the LPIC1 certification bible page 10. LPIC1 certification bible page 10? CONGRATULATIONS! You've just obfuscated the answer far beyond the technicality level of anyone who would actually ask the question. If you feel the need to ask this question try and outline exactly what you expect and how techincal you are and exactly what you want to do with the server / workstation you are creating. I think this is closer to an actual answer, rather than insisting it be part of the question. It depends on your requirements... Redhat is easily installed, Debian has many tasks nicely automated, and Slackware places you a lot closer to its inner workings. There's lots of other distros and differences, of course, but I see no reason a FAQ should not form a dialogue between it's questions... It's not about This is the way to ask, it's about documentation. :) So: What do other people feel sets their favorite/current distro apart? -- Jessica Mayo. (Everything with a Grin :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Latex - double indent of paragraph
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 10:34:04PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
A latex question - how do you double indent a paragraph?
I'm not having much luck on google. Might be a jargon problem.
I'm basically listing a question, then typing a response, but I want to
have the sides of the response paragraphs moved inwards. In WP (and
others), this was known as double indenting.
Terry,
Try the quote or quotation environments. E.g.,
Q. How many beans make 5?
\begin{quote}
A. Five
\end{quote}
Quotation is for longer responses with several paragraphs.
HTH, Doug.
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Re: [SLUG] Debian Seperatists (was: LinuxChix chapter in Sydney)
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 00:51, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: On Wed 17 Apr, Andrew Bennetts bloviated thus: This problem people have with LinuxChix seems as silly to me as if people started talking about Seperatist Debians, just because there is a Debian-SIG. Now there's an idea! Ve don't need your steenking lee-nucks. Ve are quite happy vis our gunoo-lee-nucks sankyouverymooch. That's a very good point. With Debian already running on the Hurd kernel and there is now a Debian/BSD port, Debian really has no favouritism for the Linux kernel. As a Linux PowerPC user, I personally anticipate the completion of the Debian/BSD port with great relish. It can't happen soon enough for me. -- Cheers, Craige. http://mcwhirter.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian Seperatists (was: LinuxChix chapter in Sydney)
That's a very good point. With Debian already running on the Hurd kernel and there is now a Debian/BSD port, Debian really has no favouritism for the Linux kernel. As a Linux PowerPC user, I personally anticipate the completion of the Debian/BSD port with great relish. It can't happen soon enough for me. Not to mention Fink, which uses Debian packaging (and to a certain extent, policy) on OS X... - Jeff -- So, Jeff seems to mean the ineffectual, victimised guy in American movies in four different languages. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Dane wrote: I struggle with the notion that so many people who theoretically have such great intellect fail miserably in understanding the notion of sarcasm or hyperbole. For a bunch of smart people, you sure are pretty stupid. So keen to twist issues based upon gender or maturity, you seem to lack any common sense. Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Do you even remember what you are so incensed about? Did I offend your sensibilities as a woman? I apologise. This was never my intent. Do I regret my childish and immature comments? Not for a second. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. Not having time or desire to play with incendiary devices I've avoided every post on this thread but I wish people would take it elsewhere. thanks. -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux Chickens
I've just been catching up and this LinuxChix thread caught my attention. I was wondering if I am the only full-time Mum with an interest in Linux. This LinuxChix group sounds like something that might have been good for me while I was at Uni, but now my situation has changed. Night outs are more complicated with a 6 month old baby. Is there any interest in day time meetings? Also thinking about the ways in which Linux could be deployed in the area of homeschooling: locally caching online books, tutorials and other informative webpages to save on internet time and keep kids on track; teaching programming skills; each child customising their own account without effecting others; using older computers - saving money - any more ideas? A lot of the homeschoolers I know are idealists, I'm sure they'd warm to Linux if they had the chance. Veronica -- ( (\ /) Web pages, fine art, graphic design, ) (.) gregorian chant typesetting, ---c-`-c-- http://home.pacific.net.au/~pnvbrandt/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] i need a sofware to penetrate in to systems
I find that SSH is generally helpful - there's a variety of ssh clients available at http://www.mirrors.wiretapped.net/security/cryptography/apps/ssh/ Cheers! On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, OSAMA wrote: I need a software that enables me to penetrate in to systems can any body help me -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Chickens
On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 19:42, Veronica Brandt wrote: Also thinking about the ways in which Linux could be deployed in the area of homeschooling: locally caching online books, tutorials and other informative webpages to save on internet time and keep kids on track; teaching programming skills; each child customising their own account without effecting others; using older computers - saving money - any more ideas? On the thread of local caching, I've found wwwoffle to be an excellent tool for this purpose. It doesn't help you get day-time meetings going but if you weren't aware of it already, you'll certainly find it useful. For Debian: apt-get install wwwoffle Otherwise: http://www.gedanken.demon.co.uk/wwwoffle/ -- Cheers, Craige. http://mcwhirter.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Latex - double indent of paragraph
Terry Collins wrote:
A latex question - how do you double indent a paragraph?
I'm not having much luck on google. Might be a jargon problem.
I'm basically listing a question, then typing a response, but I want to
have the sides of the response paragraphs moved inwards. In WP (and
others), this was known as double indenting.
You can either design a new command or a new environment to
your liking.
\newcommand{\qindent}{\hspace{2em}}
\newcommand{\aindent}{\hspace{4em}}
Defines a new commands called \qindent for questions and
\aindent for answers which are 2ems and 4ems in width.
Usage:
\qindent This is a typical question
\aindent This is thne answer
or a little more sophisticated, but typographically a mess,
is:
\newcommand{\question}[1]{\noindent\textbf{Q}:
\hspace{2em}\parbox[t]{4in}{#1}
\vspace{\baselineskip}
}
\newcommand{\answer}[1]{\noindent\textbf{A}:
\hspace{2em}\parbox[t]{4in}{#1}
\vspace{\baselineskip}
}
Then you type:
\question{This is a long question. Try addign enough so its
a paragraph. }
\answer{Add here a long answer}
If the questions and answers are longish i.e. more than a
few paras then look up creating a new environment. As
someone earlier replied the quote env might be a good one to
look or make your own. It's easier than creating a template
in Word :-)
If this is an examination like style with typical questions
and answers then there are a few LaTeX packages on
http://www.ctan.org that may help; exam, exams and
examdesign.
Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Linux Chickens
Veronica Brandt wrote: This LinuxChix group sounds like something that might have been good for me while I was at Uni, but now my situation has changed. Night outs are more complicated with a 6 month old baby. Is there any interest in day time meetings? If you can get out that way, the Western Sydney LUG has been holding meetings during the day on a weekend. Check out the web site for details - http://www.wslug.org.au/ Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] LinuxChix chapter in Sydney
I struggle with the notion that so many people who theoretically have such great intellect fail miserably in understanding the notion of sarcasm or hyperbole. For a bunch of smart people, you sure are pretty stupid. So keen to twist issues based upon gender or maturity, you seem to lack any common sense. Perhaps its not comments like mine (which are wholly indicative of exactly what sort of person I am, of course) which necessitate groups like LC. Perhaps its an excessive inferiority complex. Do you even remember what you are so incensed about? Did I offend your sensibilities as a woman? I apologise. This was never my intent. Do I regret my childish and immature comments? Not for a second. Maybe, just maybe, it's not me who needs to grow up. Hey, I don't care one way or the other. I've seen/heard things that would even make the most hedonistic or free thinking type shudder. I was just making an observation based on experience working in mostly male environments. In general these things don't really worry me at all mostly because I *don't* have an inferiority complex. I, too, have quite a sense of humour and can identify true sarcasm, irony and wit very quickly, some things your post was lacking. rachel - This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Linux Distributions
Hello, For peoplein Australia, if you want copies of any of the below Linux/BSD distributions, I can make a copy for $2.50 a cd(Including Postage and Handling within Australia). Debian 2.2r6 i386 - 3 cds Debian 2.2r5 PowerPC - 1 cd E-Smith 5.1.2 i386 - 1 cd Engarde Secure Linux i386 - 1 cd Lycoris Linux i386(formerly known as Redmond Linux) - 4 cds Mandrake Linux 8.2 i386 - 3 cds Mandrake Linux PowerPC - 2 cds RedHat Linux 7.2 - 5 cds Slackware 8.0 Linux - 2 cds Linux from Scratch - 1 cd Other software is also available on CD for Linux/Windows Openoffice - Linux 1 cd Openoffice - WIndows 1 cd Apache (specify version/os) - 1 cd Linux 2.4.* Kernel Source(specify version) - 1 cd Linux 2.2.19 Kernel Source - 1 cd Linux 2.2.20 Kernel Source - 1 cd BSD Distributions FreeBSD 4.4 FreeBSD 4.5 OpenBSD 2.9 OpenBSD 3.0 NetBSD 1.5.* Thankyou Karun Dambiec [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SLUG] Re: Backup Mail servers (OT)
At Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:16:51 +1000, Ben Donohue wrote: The secondary MX only stores the email until the primary is back up. It then fowards the email to the primary. depends entirely on how the secondary is setup. there's no reason you can't have an MX over your fast cheap link, then a lower-priority MX over another, less-desirable link - and have both addresses resolve the same host. automatic failover in case the first link is down. or a beefy mail server, and a smaller mail server willing to help out during peak times - but both can do local delivery (because you have NFS mail spool, etc). the clients check with the primary only for their email. Is this correct? Is there a way to make some sort redundant mail server where you have two setup and the client will respond to either one? or is this clustering? no. you try them in MX priority order. there is no primary and secondary. (oh how i wish www clients could do a similar thing) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: Cron Weird Problem from a newby]]]
At Tue, 16 Apr 2002 20:58:00 +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
Feh. Reboot into single-user mode ('linux single' at the LILO prompt), and
fsck all the hard drives you want.
no need to *reboot* to get to single user mode.
just telinit s - then you probably want to do a ps listing and
gracefully shutdown some of your daemons manually (noone ever gets
enough rc*.d/K* links in the right places)
then remount the drives read-only:
mount /dev/hda -o remount,ro
then fsck away:
fsck /dev/hda
then go back to where you were:
mount /dev/hda -o remount,rw
telinit 2 # or whatever run level you were at initially
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[SLUG] Re: Newbie
At 16 Apr 2002 09:42:50 +1000, Ken Foskey wrote: According to the notes recently on slug wine does not support directx so it probably will not support games very well. wine does directx fine (can even use DGA). it does not do direct3d (but i think the (commercial/kind-of-proprietry/interestingly-licensed) winex stuff might?). directsound works (at least i get sound out of directx games fine). directplay doesn't. with wine, its really a matter of whether someone with enough knowledge and persistance has tried your program before. there is so many win32 system calls (and other related system dlls), that the functions are implemented as needed. eg: total anhiliation and star craft run perfectly fine - i had to do a ~3 line patch to get heroes of might and magic 3 to run. the rule of thumb with wine compatibility is: just try it and see. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Any recommendations for an on line secondhand computer shop located in Australia?
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[SLUG] Re: [Re: Cannot See Perl CPAN Modules for Linux]
you *really* should be installing your own stuff into /usr/local/ how did you do the install? (simply: perl Makefile.PL; make; make install ?) *** No. It was a quick manual install. As root: 1. cd /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 2. Create MIME directory 3. chmod 755 MIME 4. via ftp uploaded Base64.pm, and QuotedPrint.3pm 5. cd MIME 6. chmod 444 *.pm I have been told to do it the way CPAN says (as you state above). So I actually removed it and using WebMin Control panel (that I just installed yesterday on my server), I downloaded the MIME modules from the Perl install module package. It connects to CPAN and then installs it the way CPAN does. This one installed the MIME module as per below: Executing make install .. Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/Base64.so Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/Base64.bs Files found in blib/arch: installing files in blib/lib into architecture dependent library tree Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/MIME/Base64.pm Installing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/MIME/QuotedPrint.pm Installing /usr/share/man/man3/MIME::Base64.3pm Installing /usr/share/man/man3/MIME::QuotedPrint.3pm Writing /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/auto/MIME/Base64/.packlist Appending installation info to /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux/perllocal.pod Now here is what I get when I go to /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/ for both root, and a normal user account: + ROOT OUTPUT [root@ensim 5.6.0]# cd /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux [root@ensim i386-linux]# [root@ensim i386-linux]# ls -al total 396 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 . drwxr-xr-x8 root root 4096 Apr 13 18:04 .. drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:00 Apache -r--r--r--1 root root34089 Oct 10 2000 Apache.pm drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 auto drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Bundle -r--r--r--1 root root 3277 Mar 4 2000 cgi_to_mod_perl.pod drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:01 Config drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 DBD drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 DBI -r--r--r--1 root root 139173 Jun 15 2000 DBI.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:00 Digest -r--r--r--1 root root 4733 Aug 6 1999 Digest.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Ensim drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:01 Filesys drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 13 18:04 HTML -r--r--r--1 root root 1159 Aug 6 1999 MD5.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 MIME -r--r--r--1 root root 2706 Mar 1 2000 mod_perl_cvs.pod -r--r--r--1 root root 512 Feb 28 2001 mod_perl_hooks.pm -r--r--r--1 root root 43 Jul 19 1998 mod_perl_hooks.pm.PL -r--r--r--1 root root 4781 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_method_handlers .pod -r--r--r--1 root root 1098 May 17 2000 mod_perl.pm -r--r--r--1 root root26982 Mar 6 2000 mod_perl.pod -r--r--r--1 root root11781 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_traps.pod -r--r--r--1 root root17520 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_tuning.pod drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Mysql -r--r--r--1 root root23494 Aug 20 2000 Mysql.pm -r--r--r--1 root root18124 Sep 28 1998 Pg.pm -r--r--r--1 root root11710 Sep 1 2001 Quota.pm -r--r--r--1 root root 1608 Mar 8 1999 SHA.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Win32 [root@ensim i386-linux]# + USER OUTPUT + bash-2.04$ cd /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/ bash-2.04$ ls -al total 32 drwxr-xr-x4 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 . drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 .. drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 Digest -r--r--r--4 root root 4733 Dec 20 14:13 Digest.pm -r--r--r--4 root root 1159 Dec 20 14:13 MD5.pm -r--r--r--4 root root 1608 Dec 20 14:13 SHA.pm drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 auto bash-2.04$ + They are totally different, and also the dates of the same files and directories are very different. No MIME can be seen for non-root. I cannot work this one out. Are both accounts
Re: [Re: [Re: [SLUG] Cannot See Perl CPAN Modules for Linux]]
Then I would suggest you install the modules using the suggested technique: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install *** I just tried that using WebMin. Please see my very latest post I sent. It was Cc to [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the user account shell I do not see the directory LWP, and MIME that I created. Perl still complains about Simple.pm not found in @INC when I try to run my script. Can you reproduce the *exact* error message you get from perl, in its entirety pls. *** Here it is: +++ bash-2.04$ perl links.cgi Can't locate MIME/Base64.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at links.cgi line 6. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at links.cgi line 6. bash-2.04$ Louis -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] CBNSW mailing lists
OK, apologies to all those I mistakenly pointed to the CBNSW website for mailing list info - it isn't there. However, you can subscribe to the CBNSW public list by sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'subscribe' in the body. Perhaps 'subscribe email-address' would also work, come to think of it. We should, hopefully, have better, more definitive information on the website soon. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: [Re: Cannot See Perl CPAN Modules for Linux]
Louis Selvon wrote: + ROOT OUTPUT [root@ensim 5.6.0]# cd /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux [root@ensim i386-linux]# [root@ensim i386-linux]# ls -al total 396 drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 . drwxr-xr-x8 root root 4096 Apr 13 18:04 .. drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:00 Apache -r--r--r--1 root root34089 Oct 10 2000 Apache.pm drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 auto drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Bundle -r--r--r--1 root root 3277 Mar 4 2000 cgi_to_mod_perl.pod drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:01 Config drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 DBD drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 DBI -r--r--r--1 root root 139173 Jun 15 2000 DBI.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:00 Digest -r--r--r--1 root root 4733 Aug 6 1999 Digest.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Ensim drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:01 Filesys drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 13 18:04 HTML -r--r--r--1 root root 1159 Aug 6 1999 MD5.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Apr 17 13:01 MIME -r--r--r--1 root root 2706 Mar 1 2000 mod_perl_cvs.pod -r--r--r--1 root root 512 Feb 28 2001 mod_perl_hooks.pm -r--r--r--1 root root 43 Jul 19 1998 mod_perl_hooks.pm.PL -r--r--r--1 root root 4781 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_method_handlers .pod -r--r--r--1 root root 1098 May 17 2000 mod_perl.pm -r--r--r--1 root root26982 Mar 6 2000 mod_perl.pod -r--r--r--1 root root11781 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_traps.pod -r--r--r--1 root root17520 Mar 4 2000 mod_perl_tuning.pod drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Mysql -r--r--r--1 root root23494 Aug 20 2000 Mysql.pm -r--r--r--1 root root18124 Sep 28 1998 Pg.pm -r--r--r--1 root root11710 Sep 1 2001 Quota.pm -r--r--r--1 root root 1608 Mar 8 1999 SHA.pm drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Feb 26 02:03 Win32 [root@ensim i386-linux]# + versus: USER OUTPUT + bash-2.04$ cd /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/ bash-2.04$ ls -al total 32 drwxr-xr-x4 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 . drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 .. drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 Digest -r--r--r--4 root root 4733 Dec 20 14:13 Digest.pm -r--r--r--4 root root 1159 Dec 20 14:13 MD5.pm -r--r--r--4 root root 1608 Dec 20 14:13 SHA.pm drwxr-xr-x3 root root 4096 Jan 4 07:15 auto bash-2.04$ + They are totally different, and also the dates of the same files and directories are very different. No MIME can be seen for non-root. I cannot work this one out. Are both accounts looking at different partitions ? I strongly suspect that you have a mount point somewhere along the path /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/ that the user is seeing and root is not, or vice versa. A very weird problem indeed! Wish I could offer more assistance, but without being on the machine, I canna say much more. Next step: print out the mounts, /etc/fstab and look carefully along each element in the path /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/ for mount points, nfs mounts, Samba shares and/or symlinks. Good luck! -rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited *Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime...*, Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
