Re: [SLUG] Woody on Spac64
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 18:17:31 +1100 Lance Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install linux on it, my pref is debian. Its a SunUltraII (sun4u) sparc64. Does the Ultra 2 have a CDROM? If so that is the best way to go. In the past I managed to install Debian on a Sun Ultra 5. I used the netinstall CDROM image (about 30Megs) and then apt-get-ed everything else I needed. The only thing you really need to make sure of is that you are using the Sparc net instal image and not one for some other architecture. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yes it's valid) +---+ Even in the area of anticompetitive conduct, Microsoft is mainly an imitator. -- Ralph Nader (1998/11/11) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cron troubles
Howard == Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Peter Chubb wrote: Howard == Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard I have one box that has a problem running cron jobs. The jobs Howard start OK, but never complete. If I run the job from the Howard command line then the job runs OK, so it's not a problem with Howard the command script, but with crond. The only time I've had that problem was when the job was assuming that stdin was a tty. Cron (I think) closes stdin. Does the job run if you redirect its stdin to /dev/null ?? Does it hang on the command line if you close stdin? ( sh job - ) Howard It looks like you have something there Peter. At the command Howard line: Howard job -runs OK sh job -runs OK job - -hangs sh job - Howard -hangs OK add an explicit redirection of stdin to /dev/null in the crontab --- that'll probably fix it. job /dev/null PeterC -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Woody on Spac64
Colin Humphreys wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:17:31PM +1100, Lance Bell wrote: I know those words Anyway. Are you using the right boot floppies and driver disks? http://www.au.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-install-methods.en.html#s4.2 http://www.au.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/ch-appendix.en.html#s-driver-images I get what you mean , it looks like I was on drugs when I wrote it. Here I go again. After booting of the installation failed I noticed that the silo.conf on the woody cds points to /boot/sparc64.gz as a boot image but there is no sparc64.gz on the cd however there is what appears to be an uncompressed boot image spark64. There is a /boot/sparc32.gz on the disc If I type rescue at the boot prompt the silo.conf points to the sparc32.gz boot image. this starts to load but fails. That makes more sence does it? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cron troubles
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Peter Chubb wrote: Howard == Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Peter Chubb wrote: Howard == Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howard I have one box that has a problem running cron jobs. The jobs Howard start OK, but never complete. If I run the job from the Howard command line then the job runs OK, so it's not a problem with Howard the command script, but with crond. The only time I've had that problem was when the job was assuming that stdin was a tty. Cron (I think) closes stdin. Does the job run if you redirect its stdin to /dev/null ?? Does it hang on the command line if you close stdin? ( sh job - ) Howard It looks like you have something there Peter. At the command Howard line: Howard job -runs OK sh job -runs OK job - -hangs sh job - Howard -hangs OK add an explicit redirection of stdin to /dev/null in the crontab --- that'll probably fix it. job /dev/null Unfortunately, not. Using the two suggestions you offered causes the ssh process to hang at different points, but it still hangs. Still scratching... :( -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com Flatter government, not fatter government. - me Get rid of the Australian states. -- If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cron troubles
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:47:51 +1100 (EST) Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, not. Using the two suggestions you offered causes the ssh process to hang at different points, but it still hangs. Still scratching... :( I'll suggest my shell debugging technique: a set -x at the top and some echoes sprinkled through the file. The otherbig difference between cron jobs and interactive jobs (other than the one Peter mentioned) is that cron jobs don't have all your typical login environment. Try a . ~/.profile; before the command in cron. I also recommend a set -u (die on unset variables) and set -e (die on any error) in shell scripts. But they take quite a bit of care to deal with. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] LIRC receivers in Oz?
Hey sluggers, Anyone have any experience (either buying or building) with LIRC (infra-red, as in remotes - http://www.lirc.org) receivers? Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Hello Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sid and CVS
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 02:20, Jeff Waugh wrote: So, the point is to get Debian's 2.0.x tested and kicking arse so it can migrate down into testing now. When that's done, shifting to 2.1.x in sid would be a natural. If sarge freezes before GNOME 2.2, it will have a good 2.0.x (the 2.1.x stuff would have RC bugs filed against it so it doesn't migrate). If GNOME 2.2 comes out before sarge, they're already on their way to getting it ship shape and rocking (so they can pull out the RC bugs and run with it). I will byte, what is an RC bug??? -- -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Plug for a friend http://www.quost.com.au $11 a month or $110 for a year for decent hosting on either 2k or Linux. There is also a section on there to register a domain as part of the sale and .com, .net and .org are $25 a year (all prices $au). Cheap dialup would be TPG for the sydney area $17 a month unlimited usage or you could choose an hourly rate plan but $17 a month ensures no suprises. Cheers, Paul - Original Message - From: Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 11:04 PM Subject: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website Hello Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[OT] Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Wed, 2002-12-11 at 23:04, Richard Neal wrote: 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. I have used http://www.digitalspace.net/domain/ but I think www.NetRegistry.com.au have even cheaper .com domains now. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. I am currently using http://www.digitalspace.net as they have an incredibly cheap starter site (USD3) per month!!! With email. -- ** * Simon Wong * ** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sid and CVS
quote who=Ken Foskey If sarge freezes before GNOME 2.2, it will have a good 2.0.x (the 2.1.x stuff would have RC bugs filed against it so it doesn't migrate). I will byte, what is an RC bug??? Release Critical. In Debian, that means that the package will not migrate down from sid to testing after two weeks. - Jeff -- World domination is a community responsibility. - Michael Hall, LinuxPlanet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Regular death of screen
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Michael Fox wrote: Funny enough, I've been using screen on debian for the last 3-4 years and have never had any problems as you explain above. Have you tried to do a google groups search for the error to see if anyone else experiences it. Be interesting to know, especially if I find myself sometime having the same issue. I use screen for remote access to my work all the time, and the only freeze i ever encounter is due to my own stupidity: ^S ... ^Q fixes it once i realise what has happened. XOFF/XON will getcha everytime. As per Mary ... that CTRL key is way to close to SHIFT. -rickw _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited This rock salt is over 200 million years old, formed through ancient geological processes in the German mountains ranges. Best before 04 2003. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Quoting Richard Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. If you wanted it on the cheap, you need someone to host the zone files of your domain, aka act as a nameserver. I recommend you go sign up with www.zoneedit.com, and put your zone files with them. It costs nothing at first, and you could easily continue to use it with no costs, assuming your zone files don't consume lots of hits, thus using tokens which they give you about 3 for nothing. I've had my account for about 2-3 years and still not had to pay. Then I'd go rego the domain ( price varies depending on if you want a .net/org/com.au or .net/org/com) and you'd then be prompted what nameserver will host the domain. Input the domain servers for which zoneedit.com allocated to your zone/domain you created. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Now for hosting the domain, I recommend you just go to your local isp dialup provider, who gives you an account with say 10mb or more webspace with any dialup plan. Not to mention probably ~ 5 pop accounts too. Jump back onto zoneedit, logon and create a www.mydomain.com (and mydomain.com) redirection to your isp webspace.. ie.. heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ www.heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ And then just upload your html for the domain to your ISP webspace. As for emails, create aliases on zoneedit.com account and redirect them to anywhere. Maybe some redirections to your pop accounts you got created on your isp dialup account, or yahoo/hotmail.com etc.. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. So at the end of the day... www.mydomain.com in browser redirects to the html sitting on your isp webspace, which you get with your dialup account. And any email aliases like [EMAIL PROTECTED] should redirect to say one of the pop accounts you get with your isp account. Very simple, and cheap. Although you won't be able to usual do anything real fancy with your webpages, ie php, mysql backend etc.. But for straight html showing what the company does and some pics... no problem. Good luck Regards Richard Neal -- * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] cron troubles openssh - heads up
I mentioned yesterday that I was having problems with ssh running in a script called by cron. Well I seem to have isolated it to a versioning problem. A v2 client will talk to a v2 daemon OK. A v2 client hangs when talking to a v3 daemon. A v3 client will talk to a v2 daemon OK. A v3 client will talk to a v3 daemon OK. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com Flatter government, not fatter government. - me Get rid of the Australian states. -- If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Richard Neal wrote: Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical person how do I put my company one the web. Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a map who/where they are what they do and an email link etc. Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of you have your own websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a domain name and who with and how much is it. Get an ISP and get them to arrange getting the domain name for them and delegating it. Then they dont have to worry about anything complicated. Eg for Jills parents that have a small business they just went to an ISP (http://www.triode.net.au and lists of their customers here http://www.triode.net.au/homepage.html) and got a domain (rowlingstock.com.au), and a web site up and running easy. Jill did the web pages for them. (http://www.rowlingstock.com.au) Let the ISP do the technical stuff for them. 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple web page/domain name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how much We will also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. When we were helping Jills parents get a site up we spoke to the person who runs triode on the phone and they were easy to deal with so we later went with triode for our own dialup and web site hosting although we had our own domain name that we arranged ourselves. (Triode run on RedHat Linux and its a small ISP. Support the little-uns before they get bought out :-) Mike -- Mike Lake Uni of Technol., Sydney UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
There are a number of issues with this to consider: 1. Do you want the cheapest solution where some parts are DIY? 2. Do you want it all just done for you where $$ isn't necessarilary a major factor? 3. Do you want just simple HTML and maybe Frontpage support or do you want support for cgi/php/asp/jsp/db's etc etc? 4. Do you want it hosted locally or isn't that a factor? 5. Do you know what you are doing or will you require reliable friendly support? 6. Do you want full control over say configuring your mail accounts or zone files? 7. Is the service required business critical or is say 99% uptime ok? There are other things but I'd assume this covers off about 95% of requirements. From my experience in webhosting (running a large webhosting operation) I'd say most people want a combination of the above. The steps I'd suggest are below: 1. Select the domain name you'd like. Do you want a domain in .au space or do you want a .com, .net or .org domain (or other type). 2. If it's a com/net/org register it yourself through somewhere like http://www.godaddy.com/ and register directly for about 1/3 the cost that any local provider will supply at. 3. If you want a .au domain goto http://www.ausregistry.com.au/ there you'll find a list of local registrars, prices vary wildly, do a little research. If you want a .au domain you'll need to be eligable for it and will need to supply these details at the time of application. 4. Once you have your domain name, select a host based on the questions above. You'll find some places like GoDaddy (and in fact NetRegistry) will offer hosting services at time of registration. This is a factor to consider for those who enjoy billing consolidation etc. If you've got more questions, I'm happy to answer them. Regards Brett Fenton : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of : Michael Lake : Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:05 AM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Richard Neal : Subject: Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website : : : Richard Neal wrote: : Today I was asked for help by a a total none technical : person how do I : put my company one the web. : Basically he wants to just have a simple website with a : map who/where : they are what they do and an email link etc. : Now I haven't done this myself but I can bet a few of : you have your own : websites with your own domain names so I'm asking 2 questions. : : 1.One whats the cheapest simplest way to register a : domain name and who : with and how much is it. : : Get an ISP and get them to arrange getting the domain name : for them and : delegating it. Then they dont have to worry about anything : complicated. : Eg for Jills parents that have a small business they just : went to an ISP : (http://www.triode.net.au and lists of their customers here : http://www.triode.net.au/homepage.html) and got a domain : (rowlingstock.com.au), and a web site up and running easy. : Jill did the : web pages for them. (http://www.rowlingstock.com.au) : Let the ISP do the technical stuff for them. : : 2. Who would be a good service provider to host a simple : web page/domain : name setup (I'm going to do the web page myself) and how : much We will : also need a dial up so they can pickup their email. : Were talking a Mum and Dad and Son company here nothing big. : : When we were helping Jills parents get a site up we spoke : to the person : who runs triode on the phone and they were easy to deal : with so we later : went with triode for our own dialup and web site hosting : although we had : our own domain name that we arranged ourselves. (Triode : run on RedHat : Linux and its a small ISP. Support the little-uns before : they get bought : out :-) : : Mike : -- : Mike Lake : Uni of Technol., Sydney : : : UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F : : DISCLAIMER : === : = : This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain : confidential information. If you are not the intended : recipient, do not : read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or : attachments. : If you have received this message in error, please notify : the sender : immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed : in this message : are those of the individual sender, except where the : sender expressly, : and with authority, states them to be the views the University of : Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please : check them for : viruses and defects. : === : = : : : -- : SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ : More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug : -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Lost a bit on allowing normal users to write to a /mnt/dos directory.
At Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:57:56 +1100, Michael Lake wrote: still cant set permissions though as you can see here... casteret:/mnt# mountcasteret:/mnt# chmod ug+w dos/ casteret:/mnt# ls -l drwxr-xr-x4 root users 16384 Jan 1 1970 dos I was expecting a w to show after I changed permissions. I am root after all :-) i think you're forgetting the small detail that fat has no concept of unix file permissions - there simply isn't any way of storing them. it doesn't matter how hard you try you will always get operation not permitted for exactly that reason. if you wanted to do unixy things (device files, symlinks, permissions, etc) you might try mounting as umsdos. iiuc (and i've never used it) it stores such meta-things in a special file in each directory. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Configuring Woody for cable.
Adam Bogacki See below... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Foskey Sent: Saturday, 7 December 2002 4:41 PM To: slug Subject: Re: [SLUG] Configuring Woody for cable. Thanks ... it was not working because I had not configured it. I read the available (outdated) material and Googled around so I had a rough idea of what to do. I could not find 'linuxconf' and then had trouble installing it [I had tried to change from 'unstable' to 'stable' in my /etc/apt/sources.list but found that when I tried to update or upgrade I regularly received the message '0 packages upgraded ...' etc. Changing back to unstable sources meant that the whole thing worked again - and I hope that I can fix the lack of 'man' pages (or more specifically the pager) which someone told me was a regrettable product of the 'unstable' version.] 'apt-get install linuxconf' was missing some archive packages but '--fix-missing' fixed that. Installed 'linuxconf' this morning and read their extensive 'help' sources and, on reboot, found that it started up eth0, the cable modem was blinking, and everything seemed to be happening much faster, so I guess I'm online @ 512 bd on the Woody drive. Unfortunately, mutt and Mozilla can't connect to anything ... I did not see anywhere in 'linuxconf' to enter pop3 and smtp addresses ... but I guess I'll have to edit .fetchmailrc, .muttrc, and .procmailrc in order to get that organised ... Thanks for the feedback, Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 10:02, Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi Guys, I've just installed cable on a dual-boot machine and the XP side of it is working but I can't even do an 'apt-get update' successfully, getting the message that 'something wicked' has happened. What do I do to configure Woody for cable? something wicked is the error when the names are not resolving. Not a very good error message :-( Check that you dns lookup is working, if not check resolv.conf for you dns settings. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Woody on Spac64
On Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 08:18:23PM +1100, Lance Bell wrote: After booting of the installation failed Where does it fail? Does the kernel start? I noticed that the silo.conf on the woody cds points to /boot/sparc64.gz as a boot image but there is no sparc64.gz on the cd however there is what appears to be an uncompressed boot image spark64. There is a /boot/sparc32.gz on the disc If I type rescue at the boot prompt the silo.conf points to the sparc32.gz boot image. this starts to load but fails. That makes more sence does it? Not sure about that. I have never installed woody onto a sparc box directly. I have allways dist-upgrade from potato. I have an Ultra 2 lying round here, so I just tried booting a potato (2.2r3) cd on it: Sun Ultra 2 UPA/SBus (UltraSPARC-II 296MHz), No Keyboard OpenBoot 3.11, 512 MB memory installed, Serial #11338470. Ethernet address 8:0:20:ad:2:e6, Host ID: 80ad02e6. Silo gives me: -- Welcome to Debian GNU/Linux 2.2! This is the Debian Install CD. Keep it once you have installed your system, as you can boot from it to repair the system on your hard disk if that ever becomes necessary. In order to proceed, you must tell the SILO bootloader the CDROM type. Press either 'I' (for IDE CDROM drives) or 'S' (for SCSI CDROM drives) below. If neither of these works, then you will need to type in the full name of the actual device. Pressing 'O' will give you more info on device naming. WARNING: You should completely back up all of your hard disks before proceeding. The installation procedure can completely and irreversibly erase them! If you haven't made backups yet, remove the rescue CD from the drive and press L1-A to get back to the OpenBoot prompt. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. [ S - SCSI ] [ I - IDE ] [ O - OTHER ] -- This CD uses Linux 2.2.15 -- I answer S for SCSI, and the install starts. I end up at the Debian install menu: I am not quite ready to blow away solaris on this box yet, so I havn't gone any futher. I am downloading a woody cd right now, and I will test that. -- +-+ Debian GNU/Linux Installation Main Menu +--+ | | | There are no Linux swap partitions present on the system. | | A swap partition is used to provide virtual memory for | | Linux. Please select Next from the menu to partition your | | hard disk. Use the partitioning program to add Linux| | native and Linux swap partitions to your disks. If you| | don't want a swap partition, select Alternative. | | | | +---+ | | | Next : Partition a Hard Disk | | | | Alternate: Do Without a Swap Partition| | | | | | | | Configure the Keyboard| | | | Partition a Hard Disk | | | | Initialize and Activate a Swap Partition | | | | Activate a Previously-Initialized Swap Partition | | | | Do Without a Swap Partition | | | | Initialize a Linux Partition | | | +---+ | | | +--+ -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Recover a full / partition
I am a SCO UNIX user but recently decided to familiarise and used RedHat.I currently cannot access the desktop of Redhat 8.0 Professional. I loadedLinux taking all the load default settings. I did this because I hope to deployRedHat as a viable alternative to my customers all of which are remotesites.My df command on RedHat looks as followsFilesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on/dev/hda5 505605 482333 0 100% //dev/hda1 101089 14261 81609 15% /boot/dev/hda3 4569856 269648 4068072 7% /homenone 123664 0 123664 0% /dev/shm/dev/hda2 12514084 1576888 10301424 14% /usr/dev/hda6 1027768 60712 914848 7% /varI have contacted RedHat support and they advise me that the / partitionsshould be established at 2GB and the default load does not set / at that.I can telnet to the Linux box from a Unix box and work successfully. Ican't get past a grub screen with hieroglyphics on the RedHat console.The grub screen is showing two possible selections which again are hieroglyphics, anyway which ever I select I end up in a boot routine loop.After the boot routine the system does not display the Gnome desktop,it displays the standard text based login, but appears to go into a loop,whether I type in a login and password or not. That loop takes me tothe grub screen.RedHat support have told me to reload Linux and manually set the /partition to 2 gigabytes. Under SCO can recover from a full root filesystem simply by removingfiles. Under RedHat we remove files but we don't seem to get thespace back. We still show 100% (see above df) in /Why doesn't file removal recover workspace.Can anyone offer me a routine or solution to this problem.
FW: [SLUG] Recover a full / partition
oops forgot to send to list! I think what's happened is when you loaded your Red Hat system on, you seem to have kept the original SCO partitioning. Red Hat Linux by default comes with a lot of stuff to do with desktop tools, and these generally end up under / (in various places like /usr/bin). You might have more joy re-installing it, and get it to re-partition the hard disk rather than keeping the original partition table. Before you do though, write down the values that you see there (df -k) and when you get it to re-partition, just check that it is picking a reasonable size for each part. At least for a first-time user. Later, you might want to re-arrange things to suit the way you use the system. I once spent some time working out where I wanted to put things on a system, but if you haven't seen how much each area needs then it's probably best to let the installer do the partitioning. Also different distros may require slightly different partitionings. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia Level 2, 55 Mentmore Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Denovo Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Recover a full / partition I am a SCO UNIX user but recently decided to familiarise and used RedHat. I currently cannot access the desktop of Redhat 8.0 Professional. I loaded Linux taking all the load default settings. ... -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Recover a full / partition
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Denovo Systems wrote: Under SCO can recover from a full root filesystem simply by removing files. Under RedHat we remove files but we don't seem to get the space back. We still show 100% (see above df) in / Why doesn't file removal recover workspace. Answer: It does, but under linux's filesystems a certain percentage of the filesystem is reserved for root, so things like a full filesystem can be recovered from comfortably. You won't see any change in the percentage used until you remove at least enough files to make up for that reserved space. BTW, 500 meg is far too small for a modern install of Redhat, and my default redhat install does use a single partition. Reinstall and tell it to repartition the harddrive. -- Jess. (Everything with a grin :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:35, Michael Fox wrote: Now for hosting the domain, I recommend you just go to your local isp dialup provider, who gives you an account with say 10mb or more webspace with any dialup plan. Not to mention probably ~ 5 pop accounts too. Jump back onto zoneedit, logon and create a www.mydomain.com (and mydomain.com) redirection to your isp webspace.. ie.. heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ www.heimic.net - homepages.pacific.net.au/~michaelf/ just one thing, you'll find most ISPs say that webspace is for personal use only. So a personal domain name is fine but I dunno about a company one, something to consider anyway. PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]: just one thing, you'll find most ISPs say that webspace is for personal use only. So a personal domain name is fine but I dunno about a company one, something to consider anyway. This is true. Well mine's personally, and I doubt they'd say anything anyways. Pacific have enough trouble getting back to people who provide feedback. PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 03:43:15PM +1100, Michael Fox wrote: PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. Namescout (www.namescout.com) has .com.au's for $59.99 for 2 years. Their support sucks, but if you can get away without it ... -G -- Open Fusion P/L - Open Source Business Solutions [ Linux - Perl - Apache ] http://www.openfusion.com.au - Fashion is a variable, but style is a constant - Programming Perl -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re[2]: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
Hello Michael, PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. www.gkg.net = $9.99US/yr MF I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. www.namescout.com.au = $59/2yrs Still need at the minimum need an ABN thou... not exactly the hardest thing to get however... -- Best regards, evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[SLUG] SAMBA - not assigning my home directory properly.
G'day all... Samba is connecting my home drive to /var/spool/samba rather than /home/mkraus ... Argh! All other users seem fine at this stage, which is OK. However I'm scared that its going to start going funny for other users. I have no idea why this is happening... If anyone has any experience with this, please let me know ASAP. I can provide fuller details upon request... Thanks... Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: Re[2]: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website
http://www.localhost.com.au/ has .com/net/org's for $16.50AU/yr, im on them and they seem just fine. Hello Michael, PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off. I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars. www.gkg.net = $9.99US/yr MF I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe.. www.namescout.com.au = $59/2yrs Still need at the minimum need an ABN thou... not exactly the hardest thing to get however... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
