[SLUG] Spyware checker

2003-02-02 Thread Kevin Saenz
What we all know is that spyware easily installs on to windows
desktops thanks to Internet Explorer. Here is a site that will
check for the type of spyware your windows systems have and
gives you instructions on removing the insidious apps.


 http://www.doxdesk.com/parasite/


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Re: [SLUG] addusers from text file

2003-02-02 Thread David Fitch
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:01, Simon Bryan wrote:
> Any clues appreciated

the 'newusers' command appears to be what you want
(from the shadow password utilities pkg)

PS. I couldn't remember the name of the command, so typed
"adding multiple users" into google/linux and found it.

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Re: [SLUG] disk catastrophe

2003-02-02 Thread Guy Ellis
try...

echo >/proc/sys/kernel/printk "1 4 1 7"

At 05:35 pm 03/02/2003 +1100, you wrote:


I'm having major disk errors... it's a server that is still hanging on by
it's finger nails, but gettting multiple hardware errors

I'm busily re-building a replacement server, but it would be nice if i
could get a console happening on the old box that didn't get flooded with
hardware error messages every time i do anything (ls for instance!).

How do i redirect the error messages away from the console i'm on.. is it
possible?

I can't log in from a different box.. it seems that whatever the problem
is has blown away ssh, even though apache and dns are still running.



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Re: [SLUG] IP Traffic logging utilities?

2003-02-02 Thread Kevin Saenz
snort to name one :)

try http://www.snort.org

> Are there any analysis/logging applications that could give me a
> breakdown of the types of traffic in and out of my Linux internet
> gateway? e.g. breakdowns by port, protocol or whatevber may be useful
> for figuring out my unexplained incoming data totals.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
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Re: [SLUG] Wht the Modem traffic from pop3 requests??

2003-02-02 Thread David Kempe
as said before, probably DNS, you can confirm with a tcpdump -i ppp0

dave

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:49 PM
Subject: [SLUG] Wht the Modem traffic from pop3 requests??


> When I connect to pop3 over my internal LAN, my modem light indicate
> something going out to the outside world, even though my mail client is
> set  to use 192.168.0.1 as the pop3 server.
> 
> Everything seems to work fine, but I can't understand what would need to
> be going out to the internet.
> 
> Have I configured something wrong?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
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Re: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread David Kempe
What this really looks like is you have some sort of spyware on one of the
machines in your network.
Check your windows boxes with Adaware - looks like they are downloading adds
etc.

dave


- Original Message -
From: "Peter Vogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic


> Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
> configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.
>
> However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
> account for.
>
> I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
> up to megabytes?
>
> I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds.
>
> Here is a typical couple of munites from my log:
>
> 217.84.6.34 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:38 +1100] "GET
http://www.freemobiletunes.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=chartz
HTTP/1.0" 404 1341 "http://www.8ung.at/smartlogo/ringtones.htm"; "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)"
> 24.29.148.128 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:52 +1100] "GET
http://www.adpowerzone.com/scripts/diatok.js HTTP/1.0" 404 1225
"http://www.geocities.com/bassw20/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE
5.02; Windows 98)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:06 +1100] "GET
http://www.gsmsitez.net/cgi-bin/topsites/topsites.cgi?larsi HTTP/1.1" 404
1286 "http://www.logotown.de"; "Mozilla/4.5 [fr] (Win95; I)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:33 +1100] "GET
http://utop.net/cgi-bin/utop.cgi?ID=/150 HTTP/1.1" 404 1172
"http://www.logotown.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:22:55 +1100] "GET
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23967 HTTP/1.1" 404 1181
"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:30 +1100] "GET
http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2358&ref=146341&b=2 HTTP/1.1"
404 1201 "http://www.die-80er-jahre.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01;
Windows 95)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:50 +1100] "GET
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9449&bid=24968 HTTP/1.1" 404 1183
"http://www.rapworld.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:12 +1100] "GET
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23966 HTTP/1.0" 404 1181
"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.131.12.251 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:50 +1100] "GET
http://www.1-click-clipart.com/bin/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=1cool HTTP/1.1"
404 1213 "http://www.top20cool.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible;
MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:27:16 +1100] "GET
http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2306&ref=145686&b=3 HTTP/1.0"
404 1193 "http://www.myownmusic.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01;
Windows 98)"
>
> Any ideas what the cause of this is and can I stop it??
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
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[SLUG] disk catastrophe

2003-02-02 Thread David

I'm having major disk errors... it's a server that is still hanging on by
it's finger nails, but gettting multiple hardware errors

I'm busily re-building a replacement server, but it would be nice if i
could get a console happening on the old box that didn't get flooded with
hardware error messages every time i do anything (ls for instance!).

How do i redirect the error messages away from the console i'm on.. is it
possible?

I can't log in from a different box.. it seems that whatever the problem
is has blown away ssh, even though apache and dns are still running.



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Re: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread Kevin Saenz
if you use squid, you could use calamaris to generate reports for you
The reports will also inform you the total bytes access by your proxy.


> Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
> configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.
> 
> However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
> account for. 
> 
> I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
> up to megabytes?
> 
> I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds. 
> 
> Here is a typical couple of munites from my log:
> 
> 217.84.6.34 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:38 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.freemobiletunes.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=chartz HTTP/1.0" 
>404 1341 "http://www.8ung.at/smartlogo/ringtones.htm"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 
>4.01; Windows 95)"
> 24.29.148.128 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:52 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.adpowerzone.com/scripts/diatok.js HTTP/1.0" 404 1225 
>"http://www.geocities.com/bassw20/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.02; 
>Windows 98)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:06 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.gsmsitez.net/cgi-bin/topsites/topsites.cgi?larsi HTTP/1.1" 404 1286 
>"http://www.logotown.de"; "Mozilla/4.5 [fr] (Win95; I)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:33 +1100] "GET 
>http://utop.net/cgi-bin/utop.cgi?ID=/150 HTTP/1.1" 404 1172 "http://www.logotown.de"; 
>"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:22:55 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23967 HTTP/1.1" 404 1181 
>"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:30 +1100] "GET 
>http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2358&ref=146341&b=2 HTTP/1.1" 404 1201 
>"http://www.die-80er-jahre.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:50 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9449&bid=24968 HTTP/1.1" 404 1183 
>"http://www.rapworld.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:12 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23966 HTTP/1.0" 404 1181 
>"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.131.12.251 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:50 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.1-click-clipart.com/bin/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=1cool HTTP/1.1" 404 1213 
>"http://www.top20cool.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:27:16 +1100] "GET 
>http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2306&ref=145686&b=3 HTTP/1.0" 404 1193 
>"http://www.myownmusic.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)"
> 
> Any ideas what the cause of this is and can I stop it??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
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Re: [SLUG] Wht the Modem traffic from pop3 requests??

2003-02-02 Thread mlh
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:49:49PM +1100, Peter Vogel wrote:
> When I connect to pop3 over my internal LAN, my modem light indicate
> something going out to the outside world, even though my mail client is
> set  to use 192.168.0.1 as the pop3 server.
> 
> Everything seems to work fine, but I can't understand what would need to
> be going out to the internet.

DNS maybe?  Is the pop serer trying to do reverse dns on your client's IP?

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Linux file server

2003-02-02 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, [iso-8859-1] Carmine Rosa wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am quite new to Linux and SAMBA but find them really interesting.

That's great Carmine.

> I have a small W2K network and I have installed Mandrake 9 and SAMBA on
> a spare machine to act as a file server. I can PING the W2K DC and the
> Linux machine but do not see the file share through Network
> Neighbourhood. It was there before but after a big crash and a reinstall
> from scratch it is no longer there.

what crashed - the win2k box or the linux box? I presume the win2k box but 
...

> Previously it all went in without me
> doing much. I had not given it any users at that stage and I could not
> use the share but I could see it. This time however it is not visible at
> all. Could someone point me in the right direction. I would be very
> grateful for any information.

you haven't described how you configured (or reconfigured) the SAMBA 
share.  You should set the workgroup to be the same as your w2k 
domain/workgroup and then the server and fileshare should be visible (if 
you gave 'everyone' access anyway).


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[SLUG] Linux file server

2003-02-02 Thread Carmine Rosa
Hello,
I am quite new to Linux and SAMBA but find them really interesting.
I have a small W2K network and I have installed Mandrake 9 and SAMBA on a spare machine to act as a file server. I can PING the W2K DC and the Linux machine but do not see the file share through Network Neighbourhood. It was there before but after a big crash and a reinstall from scratch it is no longer there. Previously it all went in without me doing much. I had not given it any users at that stage and I could not use the share but I could see it. This time however it is not visible at all. Could someone point me in the right direction. I would be very grateful for any information.
Thanks Carmine
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[SLUG] Problems with Samba 2.2.6

2003-02-02 Thread mkraus
G'day all...

FWIW running under Mandrake 8.2

Has anyone else had problems with roaming profiles and WinXP clients?

When one of our users logs on, they consistently get errors stating that 
the server copy of the roaming profile was unable to be located. I don't 
know how much this occurs for the other users.

Anyone else have this happen or know a solution?

Thanks.

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Security break? Cron nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

2003-02-02 Thread Christopher Samuel
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On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:55 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Nothing has happened to the machine recently (that we know about) ... The
> machine is a firewall, router, and VPN server. The VPN was restarted last
> Thursday, but that is about all.
>
> Prelude was installed at installation time, so it seems wierd for it to
> stop and start itself.  I'm curious.

IIRC that's done by logrotate as part of rotating the log files. It makes sure 
that the old file is no longer being written to.

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Re: [SLUG] addusers from text file

2003-02-02 Thread Glen Turner
Simon Bryan wrote:


I have been trying to find an adduser script that will read it's input from
a file. I used to have one but it has gone MIA.
I need to be able to set username, gid, home directory and shell.


How about just reformatting the file suitably for "useradd"?

awk -f reformat.awk < names.txt | sh

where reformat.awk is a variant of

 BEGIN { FS=":" }
 { full_name = $1
   user_id = $2
   password = $3
   printf "useradd -p '%s' -c '%s' '%s'\n",
  password,
  full_name,
  user_id
 }

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RE: [SLUG] addusers from text file

2003-02-02 Thread Ben de Luca
Try

man bash
man awk

or

http://www.python.org

or

http://www.perl.org

Im sure that an self respecting IT manager knows one of these well
enough to parse a text file?

Bend
Not and IT manager

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Simon Bryan
Sent: Monday, 3 February 2003 12:32 PM
To: Slug
Subject: [SLUG] addusers from text file

Hi all,
I have been trying to find an adduser script that will read it's input
from
a file. I used to have one but it has gone MIA.
I need to be able to set username, gid, home directory and shell.

I tried the one in Webmin but it keeps failing with inexplicable errors.

Any clues appreciated

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[SLUG] addusers from text file

2003-02-02 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi all,
I have been trying to find an adduser script that will read it's input from
a file. I used to have one but it has gone MIA.
I need to be able to set username, gid, home directory and shell.

I tried the one in Webmin but it keeps failing with inexplicable errors.

Any clues appreciated

_
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IT Manager
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Re: [SLUG] IP Traffic logging utilities?

2003-02-02 Thread woody+slug
Easy Program:

trafshow

Detailed Program:

tcpdump

Logging:

Kernel has ip accounting we use it on the firewall to send ourselves
daily/weekly/monthly summaries.

cheers,
Woody


On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 11:42:37AM +1100, Peter Vogel wrote:
> Are there any analysis/logging applications that could give me a
> breakdown of the types of traffic in and out of my Linux internet
> gateway? e.g. breakdowns by port, protocol or whatevber may be useful
> for figuring out my unexplained incoming data totals.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
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Re: [SLUG] Calculating physical memory from /proc/meminfo

2003-02-02 Thread Peter Hardy
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:42:43 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the process from calculating physical memory from `cat 
> /proc/meminfo` ?

free(1) parses the output of meminfo into something a little more
readable.

> In the memtotal line is that including swap memory?

Comparing the output from free with the contents of /proc/meminfo, it
seems that the memtotal line doesn't include swap.

> When I calculate the number of megabytes, its never quite right - so I
> was wondering what techniques others use.

free. :-)

There's been quite a lot of discussion on interpreting memory usage in
the past. Perusing the list archives at http://slug.org.au/archives.html
should help out.

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Re: [SLUG] Security break? Cron nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

2003-02-02 Thread mkraus
G'day...

Nothing has happened to the machine recently (that we know about) ... The 
machine is a firewall, router, and VPN server. The VPN was restarted last 
Thursday, but that is about all.

Prelude was installed at installation time, so it seems wierd for it to 
stop and start itself.  I'm curious.

Mike
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James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/02/2003 11:28 AM

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [SLUG] Security break? Cron  nice -n 19 
run-parts 
/etc/cron.daily


On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'day all...
> 
> On our firewall/router (Mandrake 8.2) cron normally sends nice little 
> security messages, however one of the last couple of runs was different.
> 
> It's attached below, normally the shutting down and starting up parts 
> aren't there...
> 
> Any ideas...?

not really. I find those emails annoying so I turn them off. The
mandrake security whatsit isn't very smart.

It doesn't look like an entirely unusual thing for it to be doing, but
unless you made a change to the system I would be suspicious. I'd look
at the crontab, look at the programs it's running etc. As I recall all
these tools are written in perl, so vim should be all you need to see if
they're at all different. It could be that upgrading initscripts caused
a change in the way the reporting output gets written -- if you upgraded
initscripts :) -- just canvassing some less alarming possibilities.

Is the INN stuff normally there? perhaps it's just doing this because
something has gone wrong with your news daemon.

What sort of stuff has happened to this machine lately?

HTH

James.


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[SLUG] Wht the Modem traffic from pop3 requests??

2003-02-02 Thread Peter Vogel
When I connect to pop3 over my internal LAN, my modem light indicate
something going out to the outside world, even though my mail client is
set  to use 192.168.0.1 as the pop3 server.

Everything seems to work fine, but I can't understand what would need to
be going out to the internet.

Have I configured something wrong?

Thanks

Peter

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[SLUG] Calculating physical memory from /proc/meminfo

2003-02-02 Thread mkraus
G'day all...

What is the process from calculating physical memory from `cat 
/proc/meminfo` ?

In the memtotal line is that including swap memory?

When I calculate the number of megabytes, its never quite right - so I was 
wondering what techniques others use.

Thanks

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Temperature measurement

2003-02-02 Thread John Clarke
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 03:02:18AM +1100, Ben Buxton wrote:

> This is what I'm doing: http://www.cactii.net/temp.html
> 
> Need to mail order the hardware from canada, about $CAD40. And

Oatley Electronics in Sydney sell this kit too:

http://www.oatleyelectronics.com/kits/hk145.html


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Re: [SLUG] network considerations

2003-02-02 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:31, moise lim wrote:



> my current thoughts are :-
> 
> 1/ leaving the workstations running windows - only for the time being though 
> until i can convince users of the advantages of using a superior o/s in my 
> following points
> 2/ leaving the win2000 svr alone but introducing a samba server and gradually 
> migrating files across to samba until enuff load has been shedded on the 
> win2000 svr
> 3/ introducing a linux-based mail svr to replace the windows based one
> 4/ introducing a linux-based proxy to replace the windows based one
> 5/ introducing a linux-based firewall to provide good security

ok, how many boxes do you have to play with?

I'll prefix this - I'm making a lot of assumptions from that description
to give you a starting point to tell us the stuff that I got all wrong
:)

proxy and firewall should probably be the same machine. Then you can do
transparent proxying (well, you can do it otherwise, but having it on
the same machine is nice, and there isn't much advantage to separating
them)

when you say "mail server" - do you mean a computer to receive mail from
the internet? (ie, do the MX records point to this box?) I'm assuming
not given the unreliable connection -- this answer would be slightly
different if that were the case. So, I'm assuming that this is just a
machine to store mail locally and pass outgoing mail to another MTA
somewhere. I would make the fileserver and the mail server the same box
(unless there was a reason not to). You probably want to have a box with
RAID for this, and it's nice to keep all the stuff you need RAIDed in
one place (again, more assumptions there). I'd run Courier IMAP
(interesting observation from one who just migrated to it -- much faster
but it takes about 20-30% more diskspace than uw-imap for storing mail),
fetchmail, spamassassin (now there's a cool way to impress your windows
loving clients), postfix as a smart relay. I'm told that XFS is all the
rage when it comes to choice of reliable, fast filesystem (I'm running
reiserfs here, and I love it but there's no recovery tools)

If you just mean a machine to use to deliver mail *to* the internet,
then as above but with just postfix.

I would also consider using ldap on such a network for a user database -
it makes it easier to add stuff like proxy authentication if you happen
to need it -- you get a bonus global address book too. I'd also run that
on your mail/fileserver. There's also some nifty thing that lets you get
squid to authenticate against the samba authentication stuff, and samba
in turn to authenticate against ldap (when I did it last you went
through pam, there might be a better way now).

There are other nifty things you can do with ldap but I don't think
they're relevant here.

As you say, I would leave the workstations running win2k. It's a lot of
change very quickly, and I think you need cred from a grooving server
install first. That said you might want to install some open source
tools on their boxes so they can start exploring if they desire. Throw
mozilla on there and whatever office suite is best on linux these days
(open office?)

For 30 users I would say it's probably worth moving to adsl or one of
its cousins.

> 
> as a relatively newcomer to linux.. i m curious to know what other folks are 
> doing for smallish networks like my example...

well, I've setup systems like the above before and find they work very
well. I used to have problems with samba, but it seems to be pretty good
these days.

> 
> are there other things i should be considering?? i don't think a dhcp svr is 
> reuired only becos i go around setting static IPs...

I'd set up a dhcp server anyway. It means you've got a central place to
do configuration changes if you need to and it means you can just plug
in new computers and have them work straight off without doing any work.
Put it on the firewall.

Is that the sort of information you're looking for?

HTH,

James.


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Re: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread Peter Vogel
No, I have checked that Proxy Requests are not enabled in httpd.conf.
Alsom the logs show that  the requests are all returning 404 (not found). 

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:24:05 +1100
Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:42:56 +1100
> Peter Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
> > configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.
> > 
> > However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
> > account for. 
> > 
> > I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
> > up to megabytes?
> > 
> > I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds. 
> 
> This looks like you might have Apache set up as a web proxy and the
> web proxy is accessible from outside of you internal network. People
> are therefore using your server as an web proxy.
> 
> Looks like you need to look at the access control configuration of Apache.
> 
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[SLUG] IP Traffic logging utilities?

2003-02-02 Thread Peter Vogel
Are there any analysis/logging applications that could give me a
breakdown of the types of traffic in and out of my Linux internet
gateway? e.g. breakdowns by port, protocol or whatevber may be useful
for figuring out my unexplained incoming data totals.

Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org

2003-02-02 Thread James Gregory
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 12:51, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:
> Snippet
> Steven Wrote:
> 
> >> Regardless of whether anyone knows, the only thing 
> > > that I miss from windows is the MSN and ICQ functionality. What
> are the 
> > > closest programs for linux that correspond to these two programs 

Others here have pointed out nifty programs with MSN functionality. I
personally really like licq for all my ICQing needs. Has a number of
plugins for both communicating and the user interface, including one I
find handy that lets me use it from a text console. It also has the
extremely handy feature of being able to communicate over an https proxy
- good if like me you're behind an... interesting firewall, or feel an
inexplicable need to compress 100 byte messages through ssh tunnels :)

Anyway, check it out:

http://www.licq.org/

there are packages in mandrake and I'm sure every other distro has it
too.

HTH,

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Re: [SLUG] Security break? Cron nice -n 19 run-parts/etc/cron.daily

2003-02-02 Thread James Gregory
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> G'day all...
> 
> On our firewall/router (Mandrake 8.2) cron normally sends nice little 
> security messages, however one of the last couple of runs was different.
> 
> It's attached below, normally the shutting down and starting up parts 
> aren't there...
> 
> Any ideas...?

not really. I find those emails annoying so I turn them off. The
mandrake security whatsit isn't very smart.

It doesn't look like an entirely unusual thing for it to be doing, but
unless you made a change to the system I would be suspicious. I'd look
at the crontab, look at the programs it's running etc. As I recall all
these tools are written in perl, so vim should be all you need to see if
they're at all different. It could be that upgrading initscripts caused
a change in the way the reporting output gets written -- if you upgraded
initscripts :) -- just canvassing some less alarming possibilities.

Is the INN stuff normally there? perhaps it's just doing this because
something has gone wrong with your news daemon.

What sort of stuff has happened to this machine lately?

HTH

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Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org

2003-02-02 Thread Tony Green
On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 12:51, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:
> [html stripped]
> 
>Snippet
>Steven Wrote:
>>> Regardless of whether anyone knows, the only thing
>> > that I miss from windows is the MSN and ICQ functionality. What
>are the
>> > closest programs for linux that correspond to these two programs
> 

I run gaim, that has plugins for 
AOL
MSN
ICQ
IRC
Jabber
and more.

It's pretty good at what it does, nice to have it all in one app.

Greeno

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[OT] [SLUG] My quote of the day

2003-02-02 Thread Stalker, Doug

Subject: [SLUG] My quote of the day


> Seen on a web forum aimed at helping Solaris users. Such a gem, had to 
> share it:

> > dre1988 (MIS)  Apr 25, 2002
> > I tried a
> >
> > cat /dev/null > /var/adm/wtmpx
> > 
> > This should send the file to /dev/null and create a 0 byte file for 
> > wtmpx. However, the file system is still 100% full. Is there a way to 
> > empty /dev/null? I've done a rebbot already.


The problem here is obvious; the command is backwards.  
He should be using 'cat /var/adm/wtmpx > /dev/null' instead.  :-)



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Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org

2003-02-02 Thread Jaime Hemmett


>   Snippet
>   Steven Wrote:
>
>   >> Regardless of whether anyone knows, the only thing
>   >> that I miss from windows is the MSN and ICQ functionality. What are
>   >> the closest programs for linux that correspond to these two 
>   >> programs
>
>   Steve, you may like to check out Gnome Messenger. I havent tried it
>   personally, so for know i'll keep quiet about it's true worth, but as far
>   as ive heard, it supports MSN style messaging networks. Check it out at
>   http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomemessenger.

I happily use GnomeICU for ICQ in linux.  

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Re: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:42:56 +1100
Peter Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
> configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.
> 
> However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
> account for. 
> 
> I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
> up to megabytes?
> 
> I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds. 

This looks like you might have Apache set up as a web proxy and the
web proxy is accessible from outside of you internal network. People
are therefore using your server as an web proxy.

Looks like you need to look at the access control configuration of Apache.

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[SLUG] network considerations

2003-02-02 Thread moise lim
hi folks :)

i thought i'd ask for some advice on how to best approach this small problem 
of mine..

i have a smallish network of 30 computers which are currently on a Win2000 svr 
and sharing a windows-based dialup proxy for internet access.. there is also 
a windows-based mail server on the network.. very simple at the moment..

i m attempting to introduce linux into that environment becos i feel that this 
network will benefit from significant speed gains in improved web browsing, 
email services and also better security...

my current thoughts are :-

1/ leaving the workstations running windows - only for the time being though 
until i can convince users of the advantages of using a superior o/s in my 
following points
2/ leaving the win2000 svr alone but introducing a samba server and gradually 
migrating files across to samba until enuff load has been shedded on the 
win2000 svr
3/ introducing a linux-based mail svr to replace the windows based one
4/ introducing a linux-based proxy to replace the windows based one
5/ introducing a linux-based firewall to provide good security

as a relatively newcomer to linux.. i m curious to know what other folks are 
doing for smallish networks like my example...

are there other things i should be considering?? i don't think a dhcp svr is 
reuired only becos i go around setting static IPs...

thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Squid - configuration or telstra issue

2003-02-02 Thread mkraus
Nik,

It looks as if you've got your access control lists set incorrectly for 
Squid. Edit your /etc/squid/squid.conf appropriately.

You'll need to look out for lines like

acl  src 

and 

http_access  

The final http_access rule should be
http_access deny all

All the best...

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Nik Belajcic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
02/02/2003 05:23 PM

 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: 
Subject:[SLUG] Squid - configuration or telstra issue


Hello,
I just joined the list and this is my first posting. I am new to Linux so 
some of the questions may be trivial.
As an experiment I installed mandrake 9 on one old box with the intention 
to use it as a gateway/mail/proxy server replacing a w2k box with 602Pro 
LanSuite (which works very well).
After a bit of fiddling I got routing and Squid running, but on my Windows 
clients, when trying to access web, I get an error message from Squid 
about access being denied.
I am curious if anyone could tell me if this is a case of Squid 
configuration error, or Telstra could be blocking requests coming from 
Squid because it's a home ADSL connection that I 
am using.
The error message reads as follows:
*
ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved
-
While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.yahoo.com/
The following error was encountered:
Access Denied.
Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at 
this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is 
incorrect.
Your cache administrator is root.
-
Generated Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:39:39 GMT by 
mymachineblahblah.mydomainblahblah.com.au (Squid/2.4.STABLE7)
**
(Machine and domain name in the line above changed for the purpose of this 
email)
Thanks for any hints.
Nik Belajcic.
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[SLUG] Installing and Configuring PCMCIA cards

2003-02-02 Thread Adam Harris
I am a trying to install and configure a Samsung wireless networking PCMCIA
card. I have tried this with both Caldera and Redhat versions of linux
without success.

I am looking for an experience linux user (which I am not) to assist. Please
email me [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?

2003-02-02 Thread Anthony Wood
I've found that most boxes newer than 486 handle no graphics
card.

A handy thing with boxes that have no monitor is to set up
a terminal on one of the serial ports, especially
with a firewall where you are likely to "cut off your hands",
it is nice to be able to get in still.

You want to put a line in /etc/inittab (my distro has them already there,
but commented out)

#T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100

what you're looking for is ttyS0 or ttyS1 which means serial port 1
(TeleTYpe Serial 0?)

then kill -HUP 1 (init is the first process).

It's also handy to put ttyS0/1 in /etc/securetty which means
that you can log in directly as root, rather than as a user
then SUing.  The reason they aren't in there by default is
that modem logins are usually over serial ports.

Cheers,
Woody


On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 09:35:00PM +1100, Patrick Lesslie wrote:
> 
> 
> Rod,
> As Terry pointed out, you don't need to run X to
> run a firewall; for that you just need a firewall script,
> the iptables package, and a kernel that supports iptables.
> (unless you use ipchains or even ipfwadm; a bit old though)
> Then link to it so it starts at boot, or perhaps whenever
> the connection comes up.
> 
> The first thing you will want to do though is to stop X
> starting up (you did say, no graphics card ?).  You'll need
> to boot to single user mode or similar (type "linux single"
> at the boot prompt; a redhat 7.3 person might be more helpful
> here) and login as root, remove the links that are starting
> gdm or kdm from /etc/rc/rc3.d (?) or better yet, just
> uninstall gdm and/or kdm  (rpm --uninstall gdm (?)).
> 
> If you do want to run X, try installing a nice thin window
> manager like WindowMaker (wmaker) (my favourite ;-).
> It will run with very little RAM.
> 
> patrick
> 
> (I forgot to cc the list first time I sent this...)
> 
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:
> 
> > Hey Guys,
> > Just hoping to get a bit of a helping hand with a server set up of Red
> > Hat Linux 7.3. Ive set it up on an older Pentium I machine in the hope
> > of bringing it back from the grave, and the installation appears to go
> > fine, however upon booting, KDE or GNOME fails to run, citing memory
> > problems (not enough) as being the cause. The machine also doesnt have a
> > graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems.
> >  
> > Can someone point me in the right direction on this. Does RH 7.3 require
> > more RAM in order to run, a graphics card perhaps? I have the shell
> > running fine, but it's X that appears to be struggling with the current
> > hardware. What other options are available for aged and lesser quality
> > hardware? All i really need is a box that will act a firewall between my
> > win2k network and the internet.
> >  
> > thanks in advance
> >  
> > Rod.
> 
> 
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[SLUG] Squid - configuration or telstra issue

2003-02-02 Thread Nik Belajcic


 Hello,
  
 I just joined the list and this is my first posting. I am new to Linux so some of the questions may be trivial.
  
 As an experiment I installed mandrake 9 on one old box with the intention to use it as a gateway/mail/proxy server replacing a w2k box with 602Pro LanSuite (which works very well).
  
 After a bit of fiddling I got routing and Squid running, but on my Windows clients, when trying to access web, I get an error message from Squid about access being denied.
  
 I am curious if anyone could tell me if this is a case of Squid configuration error, or Telstra could be blocking requests coming from Squid because it's a home ADSL connection that I 
 am using.
  
 The error message reads as follows:
 *
 ERROR
 The requested URL could not be retrieved
 -
  
 While trying to retrieve the URL: http://www.yahoo.com/
  
 The following error was encountered:
  
 Access Denied.
 Access control configuration prevents your request from being allowed at this time. Please contact your service provider if you feel this is incorrect.
  
 Your cache administrator is root.
 -
 Generated Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:39:39 GMT by  mymachineblahblah.mydomainblahblah.com.au (Squid/2.4.STABLE7)
  
 **
 (Machine and domain name in the line above changed for the purpose of  this email)
  
 Thanks for any hints.
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Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org

2003-02-02 Thread Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions

SnippetSteven Wrote:
>> Regardless of whether anyone knows, the only thing 
> > that I miss from windows is the MSN and ICQ functionality. What are the 
> > closest programs for linux that correspond to these two programs 

 
Steve, you may like to check out Gnome Messenger. I havent tried it personally, so for know i'll keep quiet about it's true worth, but as far as ive heard, it supports MSN style messaging networks. Check it out at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomemessenger.
 
Rod.Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8.
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Re: [SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread Jeffrey Borg
Hi

That looks like spamming instead of using email they are requesting the 
url's that they want to spam on your web server. The most people would see 
them in the access log or in summary stats created using things like 
webalizer.

If you can configure apache to display a certain page for proxy accesses 
(eg access denied etc...) then configure that page to be something like 
/denyip.pl (or whatever your favourite programming language may be), You 
will need to basically grab the ip address and drop it into your firewall. 
I do this for code red worm attempts.

On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Peter Vogel wrote:

> Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
> configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.
> 
> However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
> account for. 
> 
> I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
> up to megabytes?
> 
> I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds. 
> 
> Here is a typical couple of munites from my log:
> 
> 217.84.6.34 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:38 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.freemobiletunes.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=chartz HTTP/1.0" 
>404 1341 "http://www.8ung.at/smartlogo/ringtones.htm"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 
>4.01; Windows 95)"
> 24.29.148.128 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:52 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.adpowerzone.com/scripts/diatok.js HTTP/1.0" 404 1225 
>"http://www.geocities.com/bassw20/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.02; 
>Windows 98)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:06 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.gsmsitez.net/cgi-bin/topsites/topsites.cgi?larsi HTTP/1.1" 404 1286 
>"http://www.logotown.de"; "Mozilla/4.5 [fr] (Win95; I)"
> 217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:33 +1100] "GET 
>http://utop.net/cgi-bin/utop.cgi?ID=/150 HTTP/1.1" 404 1172 "http://www.logotown.de"; 
>"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:22:55 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23967 HTTP/1.1" 404 1181 
>"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:30 +1100] "GET 
>http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2358&ref=146341&b=2 HTTP/1.1" 404 1201 
>"http://www.die-80er-jahre.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:50 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9449&bid=24968 HTTP/1.1" 404 1183 
>"http://www.rapworld.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:12 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23966 HTTP/1.0" 404 1181 
>"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.131.12.251 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:50 +1100] "GET 
>http://www.1-click-clipart.com/bin/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=1cool HTTP/1.1" 404 1213 
>"http://www.top20cool.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
> 62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:27:16 +1100] "GET 
>http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2306&ref=145686&b=3 HTTP/1.0" 404 1193 
>"http://www.myownmusic.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)"
> 
> Any ideas what the cause of this is and can I stop it??
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Peter
> 

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Re: [SLUG] slug on demand

2003-02-02 Thread Jeff Waugh


> I think Jdub also gave a talk(which may be the same as the recorded LCA
> one).

(although it was better because he wasn't hung over...)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] slug on demand

2003-02-02 Thread Jaime Hemmett

Hello!



>we have had a video camera lurking around the meetings for a few months and it 
>was mentioned that at some stage mpegs or whatever might be made available 
>for download

This is correct, the footage(for previous meetings) is on Jans harddrive 
at the moment it's  many gigs in size.  This needs some free time to 
convert down to mpg or something useful/small.

Jan and the committee will probably comment then announce when a system 
has been made to have these online.

>any news on this? i had to miss last week's meeting and would be keen to see 
>what i missed

Last week wasn't videotaped as they showed LCA footage and talked about 
experiences in perth.  I think Jdub also gave a talk(which may be the 
same as the recorded LCA one).

HTH,
Jaime.

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[SLUG] Unexplained traffic

2003-02-02 Thread Peter Vogel
Thank you to those who provided useful suggestions for firewall
configuration tools. I seem to have that sorted now.

However I find that I receive about 20mb/day of  traffic that I can't
account for. 

I do get "Possible syn flood" messages a few times a day. Could that add
up to megabytes?

I also have unsucessful access attempts to apache every few seconds. 

Here is a typical couple of munites from my log:

217.84.6.34 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:38 +1100] "GET 
http://www.freemobiletunes.com/cgi-bin/arp/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=chartz HTTP/1.0" 
404 1341 "http://www.8ung.at/smartlogo/ringtones.htm"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 
4.01; Windows 95)"
24.29.148.128 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:20:52 +1100] "GET 
http://www.adpowerzone.com/scripts/diatok.js HTTP/1.0" 404 1225 
"http://www.geocities.com/bassw20/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.02; 
Windows 98)"
217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:06 +1100] "GET 
http://www.gsmsitez.net/cgi-bin/topsites/topsites.cgi?larsi HTTP/1.1" 404 1286 
"http://www.logotown.de"; "Mozilla/4.5 [fr] (Win95; I)"
217.227.90.195 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:21:33 +1100] "GET 
http://utop.net/cgi-bin/utop.cgi?ID=/150 HTTP/1.1" 404 1172 "http://www.logotown.de"; 
"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:22:55 +1100] "GET 
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23967 HTTP/1.1" 404 1181 
"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:30 +1100] "GET 
http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2358&ref=146341&b=2 HTTP/1.1" 404 1201 
"http://www.die-80er-jahre.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95)"
62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:24:50 +1100] "GET 
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9449&bid=24968 HTTP/1.1" 404 1183 
"http://www.rapworld.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:12 +1100] "GET 
http://www.leadhound.com/show2.php?id=9236&bid=23966 HTTP/1.0" 404 1181 
"http://www.mp3rock.com"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
62.131.12.251 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:26:50 +1100] "GET 
http://www.1-click-clipart.com/bin/rankem.cgi?action=in&id=1cool HTTP/1.1" 404 1213 
"http://www.top20cool.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98)"
62.195.81.215 - - [03/Feb/2003:08:27:16 +1100] "GET 
http://banners.webmasterplan.com/view.asp?site=2306&ref=145686&b=3 HTTP/1.0" 404 1193 
"http://www.myownmusic.de"; "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98)"

Any ideas what the cause of this is and can I stop it??

Thanks

Peter
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[SLUG] Security break? Cron nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily

2003-02-02 Thread mkraus
G'day all...

On our firewall/router (Mandrake 8.2) cron normally sends nice little 
security messages, however one of the last couple of runs was different.

It's attached below, normally the shutting down and starting up parts 
aren't there...

Any ideas...?

Thanks...

Mike
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09:08 AM -


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
02/02/2003 04:02 AM

 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: 
Subject:Cron  nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily


run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/inn-cron-expire exited with return code 1
Shutting down prelude: [  OK  ]
Shutting down prelude report: [  OK  ]
Starting prelude report: [  OK  ]
Starting prelude: [  OK  ]


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[SLUG] slug on demand

2003-02-02 Thread wm
we have had a video camera lurking around the meetings for a few months and it 
was mentioned that at some stage mpegs or whatever might be made available 
for download

any news on this? i had to miss last week's meeting and would be keen to see 
what i missed

Warren
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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 Sound server & XMMS

2003-02-02 Thread mick
On Sunday 02 February 2003 22:34, Jeff Waugh wrote:
ALSA, esd, arts, etc. If you're running KDE, you probably want to choose
arts. This is probably true, especially if 2 is also true.

2 means that your sound card may not support mixing in hardware, which means
that only one program can write to it at once. That is probably the case
with your hardware. What you have to do in this instance is write to a sound
server, which mixes in software and sends the result to the hardware -> esd
and arts are the most common sound servers used to do this (esd in GNOME,
arts in KDE).

Arts used to hang in out in one of KDE's menus  it doesn't appear to be 
present in RH 8.0?  I've selected Open Sound System as the server and the 
problem persists.  I Know my soundcard can play sets of sounds at once under 
winblows.

Got to go ... thanks all


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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 and KDE

2003-02-02 Thread mick
On Sunday 02 February 2003 22:31, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> There are upstream-style KDE RPMs available for Red Hat 8.0 if you want
> exactly what the KDE project releases.
>
> However, I personally don't see what the fuss is all about. Red Hat also
> made a stack of changes to the version of GNOME 2.0 they shipped, but there
> hasn't been a lot of complaints about that. :-) The major changes include:
>
>   - Red Hat integrated menus (same entries on both desktops, Red Hat
> 'bless' particular applications as the best in their class and list others
> as 'extras')
>
>   - Both environments default to the 'Big Three' desktop apps -> mozilla as
> web browser, Evolution as mailer/groupware, OpenOffice as office suite.
> They are (perhap...  ...is probably a response to RH8. :-) ]
>
> Thanks,
>
> - Jeff

I understand and applaud Redhat's redhats attempts to "standardise" linux so 
that users and especially new users are starting in a consistent enviroment.

Maybe redhat should look at including some sort of option in the "custom" 
installation class... like "use redhat default desktop or use KDE /Gnome 
desktop"... ( I hope you know what I mean).

I've always wanted to use debian but apparently even their latest offering 
does not support ATi. radeons This is not unsurmountable, as installing XFree 
should remiedie that...The whole Debian thing is too scarey.  I've only been 
using linux for about 18 months and I still suck at it.  Debian people have 
this whole "Ohhh, he uses Debian, so he must know what he's doing" thing 
attached.  When I learn alittle more, I'll give Debian ago. 

Regards

Mick










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Re: [SLUG] Newbie: SCSI Install Problem Adaptec AVA1505AE/AI

2003-02-02 Thread mlh


Hate to say it, but since no-one else has replied ...
I suspect the shortest course to success would
be to dump this card and get a better one.  The
1505 is quite a basic and ancient beast.

You can pick up a very good card for less than $80
these days.

Matt
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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 Sound server & XMMS

2003-02-02 Thread Jeff Waugh


> 1. you have the correct output plugin selected 
> 2. no other program is blocking the sound card
> 3. your sound card is properly configured
> 
> I can safely say 3 is not the issue.  What are then other two messages 
> indictive of?

1 means that the XMMS output plugin may not be correct - you can choose OSS,
ALSA, esd, arts, etc. If you're running KDE, you probably want to choose
arts. This is probably true, especially if 2 is also true.

2 means that your sound card may not support mixing in hardware, which means
that only one program can write to it at once. That is probably the case
with your hardware. What you have to do in this instance is write to a sound
server, which mixes in software and sends the result to the hardware -> esd
and arts are the most common sound servers used to do this (esd in GNOME,
arts in KDE).

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 and KDE

2003-02-02 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Hi I got this address from Redhat home, and just wanted to ask one
> question. How degraded is kde in RH 8.0? Is it possible to restore
> original visual settings and themes of KDE, or does redhat over ride
> these? I'm a massive fan of KDE and always want the original creation of
> KDE.org Thanks for the time in this matter

There are upstream-style KDE RPMs available for Red Hat 8.0 if you want
exactly what the KDE project releases.

However, I personally don't see what the fuss is all about. Red Hat also
made a stack of changes to the version of GNOME 2.0 they shipped, but there
hasn't been a lot of complaints about that. :-) The major changes include:

  - Red Hat integrated menus (same entries on both desktops, Red Hat 'bless'
particular applications as the best in their class and list others as
'extras')

  - Both environments default to the 'Big Three' desktop apps -> mozilla as
web browser, Evolution as mailer/groupware, OpenOffice as office suite.
They are (perhaps arguably) the best apps in their class, and Red Hat
chooses to support them over other applications. This is a positive
thing for their users.

  - A number of changes to Qt and GTK+ so the entire system uses fontconfig,
the next-generation font handling software written by Keith Packard. Now
both toolkits (Qt and GTK+) support fontconfig without patches (and with
GNOME 2.2, you *must* have GTK+ built with fontconfig support), but they
didn't when RH released 8.0.

Ultimately, Red Hat build and productise their distribution for their
customers, who value these kinds of changes - and integration of the desktop
environments is a big support win for those customers. If you don't like Red
Hat's changes, use a distro that keeps things fairly close to upstream's
design (I'd recommend Debian, but for more important reasons than this one).

I think Red Hat has done an incredble job with their build of KDE,
especially when you consider that it is not their primary interest in the
desktop space. Compare Red Hat's KDE to SuSE's GNOME some time. ;-) [ Funny
though, SuSE have announced that they will provide better support for GNOME
in future versions, which is probably a response to RH8. :-) ]

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?

2003-02-02 Thread Patrick Lesslie


Rod,
As Terry pointed out, you don't need to run X to
run a firewall; for that you just need a firewall script,
the iptables package, and a kernel that supports iptables.
(unless you use ipchains or even ipfwadm; a bit old though)
Then link to it so it starts at boot, or perhaps whenever
the connection comes up.

The first thing you will want to do though is to stop X
starting up (you did say, no graphics card ?).  You'll need
to boot to single user mode or similar (type "linux single"
at the boot prompt; a redhat 7.3 person might be more helpful
here) and login as root, remove the links that are starting
gdm or kdm from /etc/rc/rc3.d (?) or better yet, just
uninstall gdm and/or kdm  (rpm --uninstall gdm (?)).

If you do want to run X, try installing a nice thin window
manager like WindowMaker (wmaker) (my favourite ;-).
It will run with very little RAM.

patrick

(I forgot to cc the list first time I sent this...)

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:

> Hey Guys,
> Just hoping to get a bit of a helping hand with a server set up of Red
> Hat Linux 7.3. Ive set it up on an older Pentium I machine in the hope
> of bringing it back from the grave, and the installation appears to go
> fine, however upon booting, KDE or GNOME fails to run, citing memory
> problems (not enough) as being the cause. The machine also doesnt have a
> graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems.
>  
> Can someone point me in the right direction on this. Does RH 7.3 require
> more RAM in order to run, a graphics card perhaps? I have the shell
> running fine, but it's X that appears to be struggling with the current
> hardware. What other options are available for aged and lesser quality
> hardware? All i really need is a box that will act a firewall between my
> win2k network and the internet.
>  
> thanks in advance
>  
> Rod.



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[SLUG] Redhat 8.0 Sound server & XMMS

2003-02-02 Thread mick
Tis' the night for posting.

Hi all,

I'm having "trouble" with my soundcards (plural, but only trying one card at a 
time).

I have an on board VT82C686 AC97 sound card which works when I "test sound" 
but does not play the KDE start up sound (or any other sounds) and when I 
ttry to play music using XMMS (patched) I recieve the following warning.

"Please check that:

1. you have the correct output plugin selected 
2. no other program is blocking the sound card
3. your sound card is properly configured

I can safely say 3 is not the issue.  What are then other two messages 
indictive of?

Regards

Mick
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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 and KDE

2003-02-02 Thread mick
D.Nicholson sincerely wrote:

> question. How degraded is kde in RH 8.0? Is it possible to restore
> original visual settings and themes of KDE, or does redhat over ride
> these? I'm a massive fan of KDE and always want the original creation
> of KDE.org Thanks for the time in this matter

Couldn't agree more, after installing rehat 8.0 I was dying to check out my 
new KDE desktop ... it took me three frustrating logins selecting KDE each 
time before I realised there WAS NO DIFFERENCE in gnome and kde's menus or 
apperance.  

If I wasn't for Redhat logos everywhere, I would have started thinking I'd 
installed a microsoft product!  (you can whatever desktop and menus you want 
as long as it's this one).

I've spent alot time getting my favorite programes out of "extra's" and into 
"menus".  If it wasn't for the huge scratch in disk two of my 7.3 distro, I 
would have scrapped 8.0.  If there is a way to reset KDE's character, please 
let me know...

Regards

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Re: [SLUG] Problems running X in Red Hat 7.3 - Help?

2003-02-02 Thread mick
On Sunday 02 February 2003 09:04, Terry Collins wrote:
> Rod Elliott - Hush Solutions wrote:
>
> ,,,snip
>
> >  The machine also doesnt have
> > a graphics card...and this may be the obvious cause of the problems.

Missed most  of this post which makes it bad form to reply ... but I thought 
ALL computers required memory, CPU and a graphics (video) card to even boot.
What machine are we talking about (courious), or is there a way to fix a bios 
on certain mobo's so it doesn't seek video output to boot (always willing to 
learn new tricks).

regards

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Re: [SLUG] Redhat 8.0 and KDE

2003-02-02 Thread Chris
Although I didnt try KDE in RH8 -- however if its anything like they're 
GNOME2 - you should be fine.

Just try changing the theme in the KDE Control Panel.

Cheers,
Chris

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> 
> Hi I got this address from Redhat home, and just wanted to ask one 
question. How degraded is kde in RH 8.0? Is it possible to restore 
original visual settings and themes of KDE, or does redhat over ride 
these? I'm a massive fan of KDE and always want the original creation 
of KDE.org Thanks for the time in this matter
>  sincerely D.Nicholson
> 
> 


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[SLUG] Redhat 8.0 and KDE

2003-02-02 Thread Jock_louise Nicholson



Hi I got this address from Redhat home, and just wanted to ask one 
question. How degraded is kde in RH 8.0? Is it possible to restore original 
visual settings and themes of KDE, or does redhat over ride these? I'm a massive 
fan of KDE and always want the original creation of KDE.org Thanks for the time 
in this matter sincerely D.Nicholson