[SLUG] ip aliases and netmasks

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Robinson



Hi all,

Running Redhat 7.3 on a server. I've got a bunch of 
ip aliases which I am running from /etc/rc.local to run them when the comp 
boots.
Problem is that on boot it creates the aliased ip's 
but they have mask of Mask:255.0.0.0 instead of the required 
255.255.255.248

An example line from rc.local is :
/sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 netmask 255.255.255.248 
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (with the x's being the additional ip addr)

If I copy and paste the lines from rc.local it will 
update the first 2 with the correct netmask and give the following error for the 
rest:
SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested 
address

I'm guessing this could be because some services 
that are started are already listening on the aliased ip's. If I repeat the 
command 2 or 3 times it eventually sets the mask correctly.

Anyone able to offer any ideas why it does this and 
how to fix it?

Cheers,
Paul


Re: [SLUG] ip aliases and netmasks

2003-02-12 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Paul Robinson wrote:
Running Redhat 7.3 on a server. I've got a bunch of ip aliases which I am running 
from /etc/rc.local to run them when the comp boots.
Problem is that on boot it creates the aliased ip's but they have mask of 
Mask:255.0.0.0 instead of the required 255.255.255.248

An example line from rc.local is :
/sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 netmask 255.255.255.248 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (with the x's being the 
additional ip addr)

I'd actually create a file /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces/ifcfg-eth0:0
(ugh) with the following contents:
DEVICE=eth0:0
IPADDR=xx.xx.x.x
NETMASK=255.255.255.248

which will then get the interface automagically created by the Red Hat init
scripts, plus gives you control via the useful ifup/ifdown commands.

SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address

I wonder what will happen if you instead rearrange the command like so:

ifconfig eth0:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.248

I'm guessing this could be because some services that are started are already 
listening on the aliased ip's. If I repeat the command 2 or 3 times it eventually 
sets the mask correctly.

Services that are configured to listen on that interface won't actually be
able to listen on an interface that doesn't exist yet.

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[SLUG] four-port serial board help, please?

2003-02-12 Thread Peter Chubb
 Peter == Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Peter Hi, I've an old four-port serial board, labelled T4R-100.  I'm
Peter trying to use it as a console server for some of the
Peter crash'n'burn machines around here.

Peter setserial ttyS9 auto_irq autoconfig


OK, even though it is *not* an AST fourport board, setting
setserial ttySX fourport auto_irq autoconfig
gives IRQ7 (which is what I expected given the way I'd traced the
traces on the board) for two of the TTYs.  The other two are still on
IRQ 4 and 3 (and conflicting with the on-motherboard serial ports).

Any more ideas?

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[SLUG] Quick fix sought for Sendmail

2003-02-12 Thread Howard Lowndes
I need to do a quick fix in Sendmail to allow a specific IP unresolvable
_address_ to relay emails rather than a specific domain name or host name.

Where do I need to put this, which file?

TIA

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[SLUG] SLUG Python Interest Group - Monday 17th February 2002

2003-02-12 Thread Mary Gardiner
Hi everyone,

SLUG's Python Interest Group is on this Monday...

Andrew Bennetts: Twisted Programming

 Date: Monday February 17th

 Time: 7:00pm

 Location: UTS Broadway, building 10, room 2.440 (computer lab, on the
 entrance level). 

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Re: [SLUG] Quick fix sought for Sendmail

2003-02-12 Thread John Ferlito
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 10:49:28AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
 I need to do a quick fix in Sendmail to allow a specific IP unresolvable
 _address_ to relay emails rather than a specific domain name or host name.
 
 Where do I need to put this, which file?
 

In /etc/mail/access

61.8.3.14 RELAY

this assumes you have access.db turned on in your sendmail mc/cf not
sure if the none resolvable will matter or not. I think not.


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Re: [SLUG] Quick fix sought for Sendmail

2003-02-12 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, John Ferlito wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 10:49:28AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
  I need to do a quick fix in Sendmail to allow a specific IP unresolvable
  _address_ to relay emails rather than a specific domain name or host name.
  
  Where do I need to put this, which file?
  
 
 In /etc/mail/access
 
 61.8.3.14 RELAY
 
 this assumes you have access.db turned on in your sendmail mc/cf not
 sure if the none resolvable will matter or not. I think not.

Tks, that's the one I was trying to think of.  I'll remake the access.db 
just in case restarting sendmail doesn't do so.
 
 
 

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Re: [SLUG] ip aliases and netmasks

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Robinson
Thanks Jamie,

the ifcfg-eth0:0 works perfectly. I wasn't sure if the boot scripts would
pick up anything with a : after the ethernet device name.

Cheers,
Paul
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] ip aliases and netmasks


 This one time, at band camp, Paul Robinson wrote:
 Running Redhat 7.3 on a server. I've got a bunch of ip aliases which I am
running from /etc/rc.local to run them when the comp boots.
 Problem is that on boot it creates the aliased ip's but they have mask of
Mask:255.0.0.0 instead of the required 255.255.255.248
 
 An example line from rc.local is :
 /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 netmask 255.255.255.248 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (with the
x's being the additional ip addr)

 I'd actually create a file /etc/sysconfig/network-interfaces/ifcfg-eth0:0
 (ugh) with the following contents:
 DEVICE=eth0:0
 IPADDR=xx.xx.x.x
 NETMASK=255.255.255.248

 which will then get the interface automagically created by the Red Hat
init
 scripts, plus gives you control via the useful ifup/ifdown commands.

 SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address

 I wonder what will happen if you instead rearrange the command like so:

 ifconfig eth0:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx netmask 255.255.255.248

 I'm guessing this could be because some services that are started are
already listening on the aliased ip's. If I repeat the command 2 or 3 times
it eventually sets the mask correctly.

 Services that are configured to listen on that interface won't actually be
 able to listen on an interface that doesn't exist yet.

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[SLUG] KnoppixKDE

2003-02-12 Thread Christopher Samuel
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Hi folks,

Just read a really good review of the KnoppixKDE variant of Knoppix, basically 
it's Knoppix with KDE3.1 and all the .deb'd KDE packages they could find.

The reviewer had never used Linux before (he's an MCP) and does an (IMHO) 
excellent job of reviewing it, including constructive comments and updating 
his article with responses from people with fixes, tips and tricks.  His tone 
is of someone who's found a new toy and loves it. :-)

URL for the review is:  
http://ammai.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Reviewsfile=indexreq=showcontentid=2page=1

KnoppixKDE's page is at:

http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixKDE

I'd love to try this out, as well as possibly try and pass it out at the local 
Illawarra Computer Enthusiasts group (a nice bunch, they're not technically 
minded, just a bunch of regular Joe Users who like to get together and talk 
about what they've managed to do) and to others who might like to try Linux 
but don't want to risk damaging their existing Linux install.

However, I'm on the end of an analogue modem link (too far from the exchange 
for ADSL and in a shadow area as far as Etherwave's concerned) and the ISO is 
a terrifying 457Mb in size!  You can guess what's going to come next.. :-)

By some chance, has anyone already downloaded this, or is anyone willing to 
download this, burn me a CD and pop it in the post to me ?

Download URL is:

http://ktown.kde.org/~dirk/knoppixkde/

thanks!
Chris
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[SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Andrewd
OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and
am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what do people
think, and what are their experiences.

Thanx
Andrwe D
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Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Jon Biddell
Bit expensive - check the prices on www.programmersparadise.com.au - I
think that size is about $153.

Jon

 OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and
 am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what do people
 think, and what are their experiences.
 
 Thanx
 Andrwe D
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Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote:
 OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC store, and
 am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what do people
 think, and what are their experiences.

I got an 80Gb the other day, for $209 - without shopping around.

Rob
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RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Shanna Daly
I think my next harddrive purchase will be a 120gig drive.. for round
about $300 .. all depends on how much space you need, but I use a lot of
space (lots of games/pictures/copy my cds to hdd). For the extra $100
you get another 40gigs!

-Original Message-
From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote:
 OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC
store, and
 am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what
do people
 think, and what are their experiences.

I got an 80Gb the other day, for $209 - without shopping around.

Rob
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Re: [SLUG] KnoppixKDE

2003-02-12 Thread David Kempe
We downloaded the full knoppix of 20/2/03 I can burn a copy of that if you
like.

Knoppix rocks!!!

dave


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Re: [SLUG] KnoppixKDE

2003-02-12 Thread Christopher Samuel
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On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 4:29 pm, David Kempe wrote:

 We downloaded the full knoppix of 20/2/03 I can burn a copy of that if you
 like.

I think that's the the one with KDE3.0 and it was KDE3.1 I was especially 
after.  Thanks for the kind offer though!

 Knoppix rocks!!!

:-)

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RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread David

yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new
drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't
everything ;-)

David

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Shanna Daly wrote:

 I think my next harddrive purchase will be a 120gig drive.. for round
 about $300 .. all depends on how much space you need, but I use a lot of
 space (lots of games/pictures/copy my cds to hdd). For the extra $100
 you get another 40gigs!

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 3:49 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

 On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 14:32, Andrewd wrote:
  OK so I am getting a new harddrive (as a second HD) from my local PC
 store, and
  am thinking of a 40gb (or 60gb) Seagate 7200rpm 3y for $179.00, what
 do people
  think, and what are their experiences.

 I got an 80Gb the other day, for $209 - without shopping around.

 Rob
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Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread Carl G Lewis
On Thursday 13 February 2003 16:54, David wrote:
 yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new
 drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't
 everything ;-)

Every time I go see the friendly chinese guy down at my local pc shop for a 
new drive, he sells me a different brand. I asked him about this and he said 
that the quality of a given brand can vary greatly, because manufacturer A's 
drives can be made in different places at different times. He sells whatever 
he thinks is best this week (up to you whether you believe that!).

Actually I believe him because there have been long discussions on /. about 
hard drives, and in the same thread you'll find slashbot A arguing that he 
swears by brand Foo, whereas slashbot B lost his job, car and girlfriend due 
to a crashed drive of the same brand.

Moral of the story:
ASSUME ALL DRIVES ARE CRAP.

This is OK, because Linux gives us fantabulous software RAID. If you care 
about data integrity, get two drives, do mirroring, and the chance of data 
loss is very, very small. Better yet, get 3, so that you have one on hand 
when one dies. You should still do backups, of course. Personally I use RH, 
the installer makes setting up RAID pretty easy, other distros are probably 
not that hard either. RAID costs more, but I reckon the peace of mind is 
worth it.


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Re: [SLUG] Autorepeat broken after suspend

2003-02-12 Thread Myles Byrne
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 15:31, Bruce Badger wrote:

 Ben de Luca suggested that fiddling with the Repeat Keys options in the
 Keyboard Preferences dialog fixed a similar problem for him in the
 past.  It didn't work for me though.  Have you tried that?

what dialog?

 I'm wondering at what level this is a problem.  e.g. IBM hardware, Video
 card driver, X, Metacity, Gnome ...

I don't know but repeat keys works for me from the login screen (gdm) if
i log out after suspend.

 It's a nuisance, that's for sure.

Yeah I had just given up and learnt to hit the backspace key really fast
:)

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Re: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-12 Thread David


On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Carl G Lewis wrote:

 On Thursday 13 February 2003 16:54, David wrote:
  yes.. but what about reliability? is there a difference? I need two new
  drives, but I much prefer reliability to size (I'm told that size isn't
  everything ;-)

 Moral of the story:
 ASSUME ALL DRIVES ARE CRAP.

 This is OK, because Linux gives us fantabulous software RAID. If you care
 about data integrity, get two drives, do mirroring, and the chance of data
 loss is very, very small. Better yet, get 3, so that you have one on hand
 when one dies. You should still do backups, of course. Personally I use RH,
 the installer makes setting up RAID pretty easy, other distros are probably
 not that hard either. RAID costs more, but I reckon the peace of mind is
 worth it.

I went to the trouble of installing a hardware RAID card (anyone want to
buy it?). When the data on one drive was corrupted by a drive fault, the
other drive dutifully mirrored it so I had TWO corrupted sets of data.

The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID without
backup..

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