[SLUG] Anyone with experience upgrading RH Linux and Apache !!
Title: Message Hi Sluggers: Other than having my own personal use of Red Hat at home, I also have alive server of my own runningRed Hat 7.1 and Apache across the internet. The server is located in the US, but I manage it here at home in Aussie land. Does anyone have any experience in upgrading a live server that they can give me some tips ? My aim is to upgrade the OS from Red Hat 7.1 to Red Hat 8.0, and also upgrade the Apache web server with the version that comes with RH 8.0 as well. I have never done this before, and do not want to mess things up that will bring down the live server. I want all my softwares, Perl scripts, cron tasks, telnet, ftp, etc..., and the domains residing on the server still functioning properly after this upgrade. I can give the upgrade a go from my home setup but don't know if it will have the same effect when I upgrade the live one. If anyone has any experience in thisthat they are willing to share please give me some pointers. I don't think it's a s simple as just doing the upgrade option from red hat install CDs. Cheers Louis.
RE: [SLUG] Telnet Issues Between Home Networks
I have reconfigured Linux firewall to put telnet as a trusted device on Linux. Eventually I will go with SSH, and use Putty. I would suggest using ssh from day one. It is a much better system. Louis Yes you are right. I already have Putty installed on my Master on windows. I just tried it to connect via SSH to the Linux machine on the slave and it works without any worries. I think I might leave Telnet out for now. FYI the file is under /etc/xinetd.d/telnet . What about ftp, send mail etc..., is there a special file for those for me to enabled them ? I think if I get my hands on the Linux Bible a lot of my basic questions will be answered from there. I plan to get one when I get RH 8.0 . But for now any feedback I get is greatly appreciated. Cheers Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Job for anyone who wants to tutor IPT/SDD for year 11 and 12students
If anyone wants some extra cash tutoring Students from yr11 to yr 12 concerning Information Processes and Technology or Software Design and Development, I have a job for you Contemporary Coaching College HEADING: Tuition-Educational ADDRESS 579 Sydney Rd Seaforth NSW, 2092 Australia Ph: (02) 9948 2546 Just call and speak to John... tell them James sent you James Dumay -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
Thats like saying, by burning your own cd-set you've saved $5 off slug membership. On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 17:59, Jon Biddell wrote: = The main Dymocks shop on George St. in Sydney does sell Debian = Woody, BTW. And this is the distro that gives you $5 off SLUG = membership too! Particularly interesting as this the AGM =is at the = next SLUG meeting, and you need to be a member to vote. = = = Long Live The Debian Police! Debian Nazis Forever! Hell, if buying Debian gets you a $5 discount, buying ANY distro should get you the same So much for equality amongst distros Maybe the group should be renamed to SDLUG ?? :-) Jon -- Chris Deigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
So why offer the discount at all for one distro ??? = =Thats like saying, by burning your own cd-set you've saved $5 =off slug membership. = =On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 17:59, Jon Biddell wrote: = = The main Dymocks shop on George St. in Sydney does sell Debian = = Woody, BTW. And this is the distro that gives you $5 =off SLUG = = membership too! Particularly interesting as this the AGM = =is at the = = next SLUG meeting, and you need to be a member to vote. = = = = = = Long Live The Debian Police! Debian Nazis Forever! = = Hell, if buying Debian gets you a $5 discount, buying ANY distro = should get you the same = = So much for equality amongst distros Maybe the group should be = renamed to SDLUG ?? = = = :-) = = Jon =-- =Chris Deigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] = =-- =SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ =More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug = -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Red Hat 7.1 gdm.conf file for XDMCP Enabling !!
Hi: I cannot find the file gdm.conf on Red hat Linux 7.1. On Red hat 7.2 I can find it under /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Where is it for RH 7.1 ? I want to manually enable xdmcp for a server located across the web, and see if cgiwin/XFREE86 can send me the graphical display for the server. I got it going for my local network setup. I think the same concept should work for the server I have across the internet. I can telnet/ssh to do things on this server, and also have a web admin panel. But I want to be able to use the Gnome or KDE graphical screen to do things as well. I initially tried VNC for this but never got it working. So I gave up. But I am feeling confident with cgiwin/XFREE86. Anyone please let me know. Cheers Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:12, Jon Biddell wrote: So why offer the discount at all for one distro ??? OK, you asked, this is how it came about: Early last year I was in Dymocks and the only Linux distros they had were old and very expensive, some over $300. This seemed crazy to me. I asked the guys in the shop if they would be interested in stocking a distribution at a much lower cost, e.g. $20. They said that it sounded good. I thought that an inexpensive distribution in a place like Dymocks would be good, and advertising SLUG and the Linux community in Sydney would be a constructive thing to do. How to get people along to SLUG, though? I suggested to SLUG that having a distro in Dymocks that offered, say, a $5 discount on membership would be a good way to get people along to SLUG. The $5 discount would be built into the price. OK, so now to fund the thing. My company, OpenSkills, agreed to fund the exercise if they could have their name on the sleeve and CD, and if it was run as a non-profit exercise. I chose Debian as the distro to go with. It seemed like a good idea at the time, perhaps because there seemed to be a good body of support for Debian within SLUG. As it happens, I was using RedHat and SuSE at the time, thought recently I have used Debian. Much of the basic art-work for the CD and sleeve came straight from the Debian web site. I had the art-work professionally put together with OpenSkills logo, SLUG logo, and sleeve text. After several reviews involving all parties it was signed off. I had a number of CD-R blanks and sleeves printed up, and then had a few (about 100) manufactured (burned, inserted in sleeves and sealed). The final costs were $5 to manufacture each CD, $5 for SLUG and $1 to cover the costs for OpenSkills. The idea was to get them on the shelves for about $15 each. It turns out that Dymocks sell them for about $22, and the Coop for about $15. So far, Dymocks and the Coop carry the CDs, and we are already getting into repeat orders. Only small numbers, though. So there you have it. The SLUG/Debian distribution is just the first CD of the Debian install packaged up with information on how to join SLUG. People who buy this can surrender the the top left corner of the sleeve for a $5 discount off membership. SLUG gets refunded from the non-profit funds managed by OpenSkills. I can assure you that there is no danger at all of a profit for OpenSkills out of this (and yes I did have to explain how non-profit became for-loss)! Both OpenSkills and I hope that the CD proves useful to those who use it, and to SLUG as a way of encouraging people to join. So, as I said before, if you would like to put together a similar distribution, but based on [name your favorite distro here] please do so. If you would like to talk about how to go about doing it, I'd be happy to have a chat with you about it. Send me an email, and we can exchange phone numbers. One thing I have to say, though: The last thing I ever expected to happen as a result of all the effort I put to this project was to be accused of being a Nazi. That really took my breath away. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
=One thing I have to say, though: The last thing I ever =expected to happen as a result of all the effort I put to =this project was to be accused of being a Nazi. That really =took my breath away. Bruce - please note that the nazi comment was not from me - although I can see how the sender would see the situation, as Debian seems to be the predominant distro at SLUG JOn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?]
I am only interested in Red Hat right now as I have a live server running RH 7.1. I want to play around on my own local network before trying anything stupid on a live server. I just discovered that Red Hat will not provided any new rpms for version 8.0 after December 2003. So it might be best to wait for 8.1, 8.2 release. But I still want 8.0 for now. I do not know anything or have any experience with Debian. It seems that Sluggers prefers Debian than Red Hat. I have also gathered this much from forums of members that have their server with the same vendor as mine. Pity that the vendor I chose only installs Red Hat on their Linux servers. Cheers Louis. Jon Biddell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =One thing I have to say, though: The last thing I ever =expected to happen as a result of all the effort I put to =this project was to be accused of being a Nazi. That really =took my breath away. Bruce - please note that the nazi comment was not from me - although I can see how the sender would see the situation, as Debian seems to be the predominant distro at SLUG JOn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem accessing User directories in /home
On 28 Feb, Bill wrote: Recently I corrupted my fstab file in Mandrake 9.0, and had to recreate it. Since then I cant log into my /home/bill directory from kdm or gdm. I get the message No write access to $HOME directory (/). KDE is unable to start. I think that's reporting that it thinks that your HOME directory = /, not /home/bill. My installation is on hda5 and my /bil account is on hda7 with a symlink from hda5's /home. I can access the directories through a file manager. /home and /home/bill show privileges as rwx r-x r-x. They're not directories? If I create a new account it is created in hda5 /home, not hda7. I tried copying the hda7/bill directory to hda5/home/bill but I still got the above error. Can you cat /etc/fstab, and also do an ls -ld /home /home/bill and post that output? Also show us the output of the mount command, in case for some reason /dev/hda7 is being mounted read-only. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Telnet Issues Between Home Networks
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 20:20, LS wrote: I have reconfigured Linux firewall to put telnet as a trusted device on Linux. Eventually I will go with SSH, and use Putty. I would suggest using ssh from day one. It is a much better system. Louis Yes you are right. I already have Putty installed on my Master on windows. I just tried it to connect via SSH to the Linux machine on the slave and it works without any worries. I think I might leave Telnet out for now. FYI the file is under /etc/xinetd.d/telnet . What about ftp, send mail etc..., is there a special file for those for me to enabled them ? depends what you want to do with the box. You generally run an mta (sendmail, postfix, exim etc) on linux boxes to deliver local mail. It depends if you have other needs as to whether or not you play with these thigns. I don't run ftp normally. I have been asked to setup anon-ftp occasionally - I generally think putting files on http servers works better. scp for uploading. If you have people that *need* ftp for whatever reason, then set it up I guess. rsync over ssh is the most fashionable way to be uploading files these days. HTH James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Red Hat 7.1 gdm.conf file for XDMCP Enabling !!
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:35, Louis Selvon wrote: Hi: I cannot find the file gdm.conf on Red hat Linux 7.1. On Red hat 7.2 I can find it under /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf Where is it for RH 7.1 ? I suspect it's somewhere obscure in /usr/X11R6/lib/something. locate gdm.conf or find / -name gdm.conf will find it for you. I want to manually enable xdmcp for a server located across the web, and see if cgiwin/XFREE86 can send me the graphical display for the server. Whoa there tiger. xdm is cool for local networks, but there's no way I'd do it accross the internet. There are two compelling reasons why: 1. It's insecure. 2. SSH lets you do the same thing, with compression! Here's what I suggest as an alternative: Get teraterm and ttssh (only because I know for a fact that it can do X forwarding). Start your X server. Run ttssh and connect to your server in the US - set ttssh to forward X connections. Start whatever program you need to use accross the internet. Crank up the compression settings on teraterm and you'll find this is generally a less painful experience. You could for example run gnome-panel and get your gnome foot thing. There's probably some additional gotchas, but that's the basic principle - forward X over your SSH tunnel. If you're doing remote administration you *need* ssh. The ssh that ships with cygwin will do this as well IIRC. I initially tried VNC for this but never got it working. So I gave up. But I am feeling confident with cgiwin/XFREE86. there are two really nice things about vnc - first is that you have a persistent session, second is that you can tunnel it over ssh. Might be worth persisting with, depending on what you really need. Getting ssh to forward X is probably the easiest. HTH, James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] /boot partitions
You can mount read-only /boot. And you can't use LILO outside 1024 bootable cylinders. (Might've changed). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gavin Carr Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 15:14 To: SLUG Subject: [SLUG] /boot partitions Hey sluggers, Is there any sort of consensus on whether /boot partitions are necessary these days (at least on modern hardware)? I thought they were mostly a workaround to the old 1024 cylinder problem with flaky BIOSes, but distros seem to still like using them when autopartitioning. The Large Disk HOWTO [1] seems to imply that problems with large disks are largely a thing of the past now, so is there any other good reason for having a /boot? Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The Linux Uprising
Simon Males wrote: Main story: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_09/b3822601_tc102.htm Typically, the article misinterprets the GPL (for Linux itself), and ignores the fact the many products running on Linux use licences different from the GPL: Before using open-source software, tech companies must sign a license in which they promise to give away innovations they build on top of it. Nobody signs anything, as we all know. And if you do not distribute a system built on open source, you do *not* have to make your changes / innovations available under the GPL. One worry raised in the article concerns existing Unix patents: What could derail Linux? The biggest risks are intellectual-property issues. SCO Group, holder of the original patents for Unix software upon which Linux is based, has announced plans to form a licensing division and hire superlawyer David Boies to press its claims against sellers of Linux. Sounds nasty. I really don't have enough background to speculate whether SCO Group would be successful in persuing this line of litigation. IMHO, Linux was written from scratch from the ground up, and copied no code from SCO Unix's patent-held software. There might be in some wild judges eyes a violation of copyright (i.e. copying of an idea) but the patent (of an invention or process) should not be able to affect other work written from scratch. Imagine trying to enforce patent protection for, say, the 'cp' command. Or for the concept of a 'socket' or 'file handle'. cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Old MacDonald had an agricultural real estate tax abatement. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 22:21, Bruce Badger wrote: On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 21:12, Jon Biddell wrote: So why offer the discount at all for one distro ??? OK, you asked, this is how it came about: SNIP I don't understand all this fuss. I have never used anything other than RH, but I bought the SLUG disk just to have a look. I still only use RH, but think that it was a great effort and a nice way to have a look at Debian. Thanks Bruce! -- -- Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.usyd.edu.au/~alant Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Emacs mail
What do emacs users use for mail other than Rmail. I find that I am spending more and more time in emacs. VM? MH? any other? Or is there good reason not to use emacs for mail? Thanks Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.law.usyd.edu.au/~alant Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Emacs mail
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Alan L Tyree wrote: What do emacs users use for mail other than Rmail. I find that I am spending more and more time in emacs. VM? MH? any other? Mutt. Or is there good reason not to use emacs for mail? None, other than all the emacs email clients I've tried sucked :) Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Laptops Or Notebooks
Hi Gerald, [EMAIL PROTECTED] can help you. He runs an ISP with national coverage. He uses SUSE himself so setup/support should not be an issue. I'd use his ISP but I'm on ADSL so no need for dial-up. Not sure of his personal company email address so use his personal one above. If he's on-list I'm sure he'll correct it for me. Laptops. I've got a cheapie Pioneer (1.2Ghz PIII, .5Gb Mem, 20Gb HDD, Mandrake 9.0 and netbeans (java IDE) runs zippy. Built in modem which works! LAN, sound average. Speed excellent cost just over $2.1K). I'd recommend it if you're going to be near power (power sucks big time - literally), otherwise, spend an extra grand and a bit and buy an IBM Thinkpad with a similar spec. Or two and buy a Tosh. Another option is an ibook which run debian well apparently. I would imagine that battery life will be a major issue. Anyone else with experience of Linux laptops and good battery life? Stu On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 18:10, Gerald Catling wrote: Hi to all I will be going mobile and touring around oz for 2-3 years. It would be nice to keep up with everyone, so can anyone give me ideas as to which isp gives mobile coverage for internet access, and which laptop would they recommend to run SuSE 8.1/Mandrake 9.0/1? Many thanks, Gerald -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Accessing the Apache web server from browser
Louis, Regarding webmin - webmin has its own server software built in and listens (by default) on port 1. You don't have to worry about if your apache server is correctly configured or not. All the best... Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Administration Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd phone (02) 9955 8000 fax (02) 9955 8144 Louis Selvon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/03/2003 07:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Accessing the Apache web server from browser Hi: I tried to go to the web server that I installed as part of RH Linux 7.2 by typing the following: http://127.0.0.1 and I got a connection refused. However if I go to it as follows: file:/var/www/html/index.html I can access the default Apache file. How do I browse the server via http instead of using the paths. Eventually I plan to install WebMin, and I will need to be able to connect via port 1. Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Laptops Or Notebooks
quote who=Stuart Guthrie Hi Gerald, [EMAIL PROTECTED] can help you. He runs an ISP with national coverage. He uses SUSE himself so setup/support should not be an issue. I'd use his ISP but I'm on ADSL so no need for dial-up. Not sure of his personal company email address so use his personal one above. If he's on-list I'm sure he'll correct it for me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is my work email address. --Striker. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Bookmarks Galeon - Mozilla
Hi to all. Not sure what kind of problem this is, probably something simple :) I realize that since Galeon depends on Mozilla, it's more likely that people will want to convert/import from Mozilla to Galeon, rather than the opposite. I use Galeon (1.27) predominantly, and have built up a large bookmarks list which I'd like to import into Mozilla (1.21). I saved Galeon's bookmarks (bookmarks.xbel) as ~/bookmarks.html in Mozilla's bookmarks format, since Mozilla won't import the *.xbel file directly. When I use Mozilla's import facility on ~/bookmarks.html, Mozilla's bookmarks menu displays only the first three of a total of twenty-one folders. Opening the file ~/bookmarks.html as a new page in either Mozilla or Galeon displays the whole list, so the entire list *has* been saved, but will not display properly as a bookmarks menu. Resaving bookmarks.xbel in any other .html format offered, produces the same results. Suggestions? TIA. -- David Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Evolution 1.2.1 in Libranet 2.7 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Setting Up Debbie
Hi Folks (Its Terry) I've got Debian 2.2 onto hardware (lol RH8.0 barfed horribly). Some requests (please reply to this email as I'm not recieving list here) 1) I can not actually see individual packages to install. All I get under dselect is generic title like all, uninstalled, etc. What am I doing wrong? 2) What do I read to figure out how to set up the ethernet card (I have a basic 3 CD binary set) and networking. I thought there was a network configuration program. This might be solved by getting one to work. 3) Assuming 2 is successful, can someone send me the australian apt-get sources (stable). I've tried the archives, but too many results. I would have thought asking for debian networking setup would have produced something useful, but it has everything but. Taah -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Exim AUTH SMTP Relay - how?
-Original Message- From: Gareth Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 27 February 2003 3:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Exim AUTH SMTP Relay - how? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: [SLUG] Exim AUTH SMTP Relay - how? All, To get things working I have put in a LOGIN and PLAIN authentication method with a fixed username/password. I'll switch to using the system usernames/passwords later on a per-user basis. I've tested authentication as per the Exim documentation: '\0username\0password' to base64, then tested using both exim -bh 1.2.3.4 and telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - each time authentication succeeds and relay is possible :-) Enter Outlook Outlook Express (boo hiss - crowd throws beer cans and sticks onto the field). It just sits there endlessly asking for a username/password. I have the correct(??) Username:: : Password:: as the string that is sent but no joy. Try telnetting to the SMTP port, when a response comes back type EHLO then hit enter, you should get something lke this (I expect only PLAIN and LOGIN to appear) if it fails this test then you need to test your exim configuration some more. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet mymailserver 25 Trying 192.168.1.30... Connected to mymailserver. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mymailserver ESMTP Exim 4.11 Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:17:49 +1100 EHLO mymailserver 250-mymailserver Hello myserver [10.40.1.20] 250-SIZE 52428800 250-PIPELINING 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN 250 HELP Thanks for the pointers, however this seems to pass the test: c:\telnet mymail 25 220 mymail ESMTP Exim 3.35 #1 Mon, 03 Mar 2003 11:00:43 +1100 EHLO mymail 250-mymail Hello client [10.0.0.4] 250-SIZE 250-PIPELINING 250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN 250 HELP So now I'm totally stumped. I restart inetd after each config change (not necessary really, because exim reads it's config each time it is spawned by inetd). Is this a problem? Should I run exim in daemon mode, rather than be called from inetd?? I notice you are running Exim 4.11, but mine is the earlier version as shipped with Debian 3.0. Still trying :) Thanks for your help so far. --James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] .procmail question
At least I think it is a procmail question, I have 2 mail accounts on one server I want to phase out one of the email addresses would I need a procmail recipe to send emails from specific people to the new email address? I don't want to send all emails to the new address. i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends me emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I would like the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is this possible? TIA Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Emacs mail
Ben == Ben Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Alan L Tyree wrote: What do emacs users use for mail other than Rmail. I find that I am spending more and more time in emacs. VM? MH? any other? Ben Mutt. I use VM. It works very well for small mailboxes; but it slows down a lot when your mailbox gets above a few megabytes. So I use procmail to split mailing lists into separate mailboxes before I see them; and a cron job to save mailboxes and bzip them once a month. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Re: [SLUG] Red Hat 7.1 gdm.conf file for XDMCP Enabling !!]
Where is it for RH 7.1 ? I suspect it's somewhere obscure in /usr/X11R6/lib/something. locate gdm.conf or find / -name gdm.conf will find it for you. Louis Thanks for that. But after browsing the forums and emailing the support staff for my server, I found out that they do not install the X Window system on the servers they give. So looks like I've got to install it first. What's the easiest way for me to do this remotely ? Can I use up2date to get the files, and what are all the rpm files I need to install either Gnome and/or KDE ? I want to manually enable xdmcp for a server located across the web, and see if cgiwin/XFREE86 can send me the graphical display for the server. Whoa there tiger. xdm is cool for local networks, but there's no way I'd do it accross the internet. There are two compelling reasons why: 1. It's insecure. 2. SSH lets you do the same thing, with compression! Louis I see. Thanks for letting me know. The forums I read also did not recommend this approach. Here's what I suggest as an alternative: Get teraterm and ttssh (only because I know for a fact that it can do X forwarding). Start your X server. Run ttssh and connect to your server in the US - set ttssh to forward X connections. Start whatever program you need to use accross the internet. Crank up the compression settings on teraterm and you'll find this is generally a less painful experience. Louis Where can I get teraterm ? You say start the X server. Once I install Gnome or KDE isn't the X server always up and running across a live server ? You could for example run gnome-panel and get your gnome foot thing. Louis Once I install the GUI stuff, I'll see about that. I'll keep you posted on that. There's probably some additional gotchas, but that's the basic principle - forward X over your SSH tunnel. Louis I have Putty that I use to connect remotely. I can do both Telnet and SSH. But I think I will permanently disabled Telnet on the server. For that I just set disabled to YES from the /etc/xinetd.d/wp_telnet file on this server, and that should do it right ? Do I need to restart Apache for the new changes to take effect ? If you're doing remote administration you *need* ssh. The ssh that ships with cygwin will do this as well IIRC. Louis How do I run ssh with cgiwin ? I initially tried VNC for this but never got it working. So I gave up. But I am feeling confident with cgiwin/XFREE86. there are two really nice things about vnc - first is that you have a persistent session, second is that you can tunnel it over ssh. Might be worth persisting with, depending on what you really need. Getting ssh to forward X is probably the easiest. Louis Well if I get some help on this one I will definetely give it a go again. So which is better then using teraterm or VNC or have both setup and then I see which best suits me ? I just bought a Networking guide for homebased setups, and it has a copy of VNC on there. VNC 3.3 for Windows, and VNC 2.8 for Linux. Actually it might be a good idea for me to try both VNC and teraterm for my local network to see how it's setup, and then I can progress with the live server. But I want to at least install an X Window on the live server at this very moment. I am on holidays now so have time to do this right now. Cheers Louis . -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] .procmail question
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 10:59:51AM +1100, Kevin Saenz wrote: i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends me emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I would like the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will do it: :0 * ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] although you may want to improve this pattern to prevent mail from, for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]' being forwarded. If you want a copy saved locally too, change the first line to `:0 c'. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [RE: [SLUG] Telnet Issues Between Home Networks]
Louis is my reply. depends what you want to do with the box. You generally run an mta (sendmail, postfix, exim etc) on linux boxes to deliver local mail. It depends if you have other needs as to whether or not you play with these thigns. I don't run ftp normally. I have been asked to setup anon-ftp occasionally - I generally think putting files on http servers works better. scp for uploading. If you have people that *need* ftp for whatever reason, then set it up I guess. rsync over ssh is the most fashionable way to be uploading files these days. Louis For me it's for experimenting before I try anything on a live server. That's the safest way to learn. I plan to learn how to create virtual hosts etc.. on the Apache locally before trying it on a live server. I've had the live server for over a year now. I've tried a few things on there safely. They provide a web based panel to setup domains, but this is not the way to see how do actually create one. Once I become an expert at it, I plan to remove this web based panel. I actually already have rsync installed on the live server. How do I run rsync to ftp files over ssh from remote to a live server ? Will install rsync on the home based network as well. I will also setup the ISP stuff on the remote Linux machine so that I can talk from remote Linux to the live server one. This is sure going to be fun. BTW: On a side note where can I get MySql as freeware or shareware ? I don't think RH provides this. My live server came with it. I need this as all my Perl/PHP development uses MySql as a backend DB. Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] TTF Fonts in X.
I installed msttcorefonts last week I think that is what you want. cheers, Woody On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 17:15, Chris Deigan wrote: G'day All, I was just wondering how I install some TrueType fonts into X. Im running Debian 3.0 with XF86 4.something, Gnome 2.0, OpenOffice.org, etc. I mainly need to get these Microsoft fonts in for peoples websites and word documents. Unfortunatly the deb package had to be taken down b'cause M$ removed the fonts from their website so Im just trying to install it from a SMB share or cdr. Thanks, Chris -- Anthony Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Switch Online Group -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Exceed not displaying cursor while dragging
Dear Slug, I can't seem to see where the mouse pointer is when dragging an item in Exceed 7.0 (Solaris 8). Googling doesn't seem to produce any satisfactory solution. Any ideas? Thanks. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] .procmail question
Thanks John works a treat i.e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sends me emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I would like the email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will do it: :0 * ^From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] although you may want to improve this pattern to prevent mail from, for example, [EMAIL PROTECTED]' being forwarded. If you want a copy saved locally too, change the first line to `:0 c'. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red Hat Linux 8.0 ?
On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 17:59, Jon Biddell wrote: = The main Dymocks shop on George St. in Sydney does sell Debian snip So much for equality amongst distros Maybe the group should be renamed to SDLUG ?? Surely you mean SDG/LUG? :-P Woody -- Anthony Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Switch Online Group -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Setting Up Debbie
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Wendy Davies wrote: 1) I can not actually see individual packages to install. All I get under dselect is generic title like all, uninstalled, etc. What am I doing wrong? Try pressing 'o' (I think) it'll scroll between different ways of listing packages. Or you might not actually have the package lists available (try running dselect's 'update' function). You could always try using apt-get directly, too. 2) What do I read to figure out how to set up the ethernet card (I have a basic 3 CD binary set) and networking. I thought there was a network configuration program. This might be solved by getting one to work. Work out which module you need, and do echo module /dec/modules and modprobe module. Then edit /etc/network/interfaces and add a stanza for your network card. Examples should be in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples. There is a Debian network configurator, but I can't remember what it is (never used it). 3) Assuming 2 is successful, can someone send me the australian apt-get sources (stable). deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-non-us stable/non-US main contrib \ non-free Give that a shot. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] anti spam question
I am looking for a good antispam application. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have spamassassin it seems to be letting a lot of undesirables in. Oh yeah I am running postfix. :) Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Nortel and Cisco VPN
Title: Nortel and Cisco VPN Hi all, I am trying to do a network printing from one to another site via the static nat option. But so far not any luck. Can anyone help on this issue? The problem = Printer --- Cisco 6000 -- Cisco VPN 2005 -internet-ipsec-tunnel- Nortel Connectity -- Cisco 4000 --- Server Office 1 Local IP -- Cisco 6500 -- Real world ip -- ipsec/NAT on the clients side-- Real world ip-- Cisco 4000 -- Office 2 local ip Now I want to print from the server on the right hand side to the printer on the left hand side? I am able to access the web, ssh..etc. The left hand side (i.e my other office), has given me 2 ip address, one for the users static nat for all and one for printer. I have natted the printer ip on the cisco vpn 3005 as to the local ip of the printer(this is the only way I can go about it, the other office doesn't want to do a network to network). Now if I do a print job on the server, to the given natted ip for the printer, I am not able to get a response. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks in advance. Dinesh.
Re: [SLUG] Emacs mail
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 11:22, Peter Chubb wrote: Ben == Ben Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben On Mon, 03 Mar 2003, Alan L Tyree wrote: What do emacs users use for mail other than Rmail. I find that I am spending more and more time in emacs. VM? MH? any other? Ben Mutt. I use VM. It works very well for small mailboxes; but it slows down a lot when your mailbox gets above a few megabytes. So I use procmail to split mailing lists into separate mailboxes before I see them; and a cron job to save mailboxes and bzip them once a month. I use Mutt. It is very fast, can launch graphical viewers for attachments etc. Evolution is OK, especially Vfolders, but I'm using it with IMAP, which is very slow because I have 1500 messages in my inbox. Gus uses Wanderlust under emacs, which he found was the only thing which did Disconnected IMAP well. cheers, Woody Peter C -- Anthony Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Switch Online Group -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Audio Mastering Tools/Suites
About to set up a new Audio Editing machine (bootleg mastering), considering the OS options, would like to go for a flavour of *nix with a GUI but am not really up to speed on the quality and/or usefulness of any of the nix based Editing Suites. (as it's only bootleg mastering, it doesn't need to be multitrack, and only requires stuff like filters, EQ, compression etc etc) If anyone has any information/feedback about any of the options out there it would be appreciated. Otherwise, Win2K might have to do. If specs are going to matter, it will be Athlon 900 (shall go XP 1.8 or above when the funds allow) 512MB PC133 (to be expanded if required) 22GB of UW SCSI in a Raid 0 over 5 discs SB Live Platinum Also, if there was tools to create ISO's from the WAV's direct on the *nix machine if you could let me know. (ps. yes I know I can google for this info, but I'm asking for personal opinions on whats good) TIA, Craig -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] The Linux Uprising
At 12:46 PM 2/03/03 +1100, you wrote: Main story: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_09/b3822601_tc102.htm Simon Males ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) This issue of Business Week (dated 3rd March) is in Sydney newsagents right now. It's worth getting, just to see the artwork of Bill Gates tied down by lots of baby penguins, just like Gulliver in Gulliver's Travels. I can't find this graphic on the web site. However, the web site contains extra stuff not in the magazine. From the magazine, the five stages of dealing with Linux (Denial, Anger etc) http://www.businessweek.com//magazine/content/03_09/art03_09/a09tab3.gif http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_09/b3822610_tc102.htm Brian -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
SLUG CD distributions (Was: Re: [SLUG] Where Can I get Red HatLinux 8.0 ?)
Good morning! Did I mention that I really, *really* detest top-posting? :-) On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:12:45 +1100 Jon Biddell wrote: So why offer the discount at all for one distro ??? Basically because that's the only one anybody's bothered to brand with a SLUG logo and distribute. The last time the committee spoke about it, we were all for packaging other distributions in a similar way. Anybody setting out to do so will get at least as much support from SLUG as Bruce did (which admittedly wasn't a great deal - but that's because he was so damn good at doing it on his own). So yeah. Now we've done it once, it should be much easier to do it again. If you want to see $favourite_distro in the shops as well, talk to Bruce, and mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are one or two fairly minor reasons why I personally would choose Debian for something like this, but that's drifting off-topic, and dangerously close to yet another distro flamewar. =Thats like saying, by burning your own cd-set you've saved $5 =off slug membership. Not at all. Putting these CDs in bookshops is a great way to get Linux out to people who might not see it otherwise. The membership discount lets them know about SLUG, and what we can offer. It also, incidentally, hopefully gets us more members. :-) Is anybody reading this after buying the CD? -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anti spam question
I've just set up spamassassin and set the score at 3. Most people seem to think this is too low, but a quick look through my spam bucket shows that I get about one in 20 that is NOT spam. Mostly these are people who don't follow good email ettiquette anyway. I still get the odd one, but I'm looking to write a little script to update the spamming url's, plus I've thrown in a few rules of my own, for example the phrase postal mail is nearly always from spam in my experience. I think the spamsters are getting smarter about getting around spam traps. On 3 Mar 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote: I am looking for a good antispam application. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have spamassassin it seems to be letting a lot of undesirables in. Oh yeah I am running postfix. :) Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] anti-spam - new heights reached.
http://www.slashdot.org today. TarProxy Creates Tar Pit... For Spammers Well worth a read. Anyone with a mailserver should consider setting this up as a service to the internet community. Essentially it reads incoming emails and if they score high on the suspect spam scale, it slows the SMTP to a crawl. This means that spammers will take days to email their huge hit lists, this will cause them to annoy their ISPs, their customers and probably ultimately reduce their profitability (time is money). Finally a bite-back weapon against spam. Stu On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 12:22, Kevin Saenz wrote: I am looking for a good antispam application. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I have spamassassin it seems to be letting a lot of undesirables in. Oh yeah I am running postfix. :) Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] mutt threading display
Dear sluggers, Currently mutt displays my thread subjects like this: 24 L Mar 03 To Sydney Linux ( 17) [SLUG] Emacs mail 25 L Mar 03 Cc Sydney Linux ( 16) `- 26 L Mar 03 Cc Sydney Linux ( 19) `- 27 O L Mar 03 To [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 36) `- Which is disconcerting to me, is there a way to make it fill in the blank subjects (even if they are the same as the parent)? I've looked at the $index_format variable and it doesn't seem to be possible there. Thanks, Ian. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Which Red Hat Book Sluggers Recommend !!
Sluggers: I am thinking of getting either one of these two books: 1. Red Hat Linux 8 Bible, or; 2. Red hat Linux 8 The first one comes with 3 CDs to install the Software, and the other has a DVD. I'm not sure if the DVD package includes the Software install as well. If anyone has bought either, please let me know the recommended one. I am thinking of leaning towards the Bible one though unless someone else thinks the other book is much better. Cheers Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Got TeraTerm + TTSSH
James and et al: I have downloaded Teraterm at http://www.ayera.com/teraterm/ and TTSSH at: http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html I installed TeraTerm first, and I see it already has an SSH option to connect. Anyway I installed TTSSH in the same directory. When I run it I see it only comes up with the Telnet option to connect. So not sure what the TTSSH one is suppose to do. But running TeraTerm already has SSH. Anyway I'll ask for feedback about how to use it after I have installed X Window on the live server. If anyone can tell me how to find out and get all the rpms I need to install Gnome or KDE for Red Hat 7.1 remotely that would be great. Cheers Louis. Louis Selvon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is it for RH 7.1 ? I suspect it's somewhere obscure in /usr/X11R6/lib/something. locate gdm.conf or find / -name gdm.conf will find it for you. Louis Thanks for that. But after browsing the forums and emailing the support staff for my server, I found out that they do not install the X Window system on the servers they give. So looks like I've got to install it first. What's the easiest way for me to do this remotely ? Can I use up2date to get the files, and what are all the rpm files I need to install either Gnome and/or KDE ? I want to manually enable xdmcp for a server located across the web, and see if cgiwin/XFREE86 can send me the graphical display for the server. Whoa there tiger. xdm is cool for local networks, but there's no way I'd do it accross the internet. There are two compelling reasons why: 1. It's insecure. 2. SSH lets you do the same thing, with compression! Louis I see. Thanks for letting me know. The forums I read also did not recommend this approach. Here's what I suggest as an alternative: Get teraterm and ttssh (only because I know for a fact that it can do X forwarding). Start your X server. Run ttssh and connect to your server in the US - set ttssh to forward X connections. Start whatever program you need to use accross the internet. Crank up the compression settings on teraterm and you'll find this is generally a less painful experience. Louis Where can I get teraterm ? You say start the X server. Once I install Gnome or KDE isn't the X server always up and running across a live server ? You could for example run gnome-panel and get your gnome foot thing. Louis Once I install the GUI stuff, I'll see about that. I'll keep you posted on that. There's probably some additional gotchas, but that's the basic principle - forward X over your SSH tunnel. Louis I have Putty that I use to connect remotely. I can do both Telnet and SSH. But I think I will permanently disabled Telnet on the server. For that I just set disabled to YES from the /etc/xinetd.d/wp_telnet file on this server, and that should do it right ? Do I need to restart Apache for the new changes to take effect ? If you're doing remote administration you *need* ssh. The ssh that ships with cygwin will do this as well IIRC. Louis How do I run ssh with cgiwin ? I initially tried VNC for this but never got it working. So I gave up. But I am feeling confident with cgiwin/XFREE86. there are two really nice things about vnc - first is that you have a persistent session, second is that you can tunnel it over ssh. Might be worth persisting with, depending on what you really need. Getting ssh to forward X is probably the easiest. Louis Well if I get some help on this one I will definetely give it a go again. So which is better then using teraterm or VNC or have both setup and then I see which best suits me ? I just bought a Networking guide for homebased setups, and it has a copy of VNC on there. VNC 3.3 for Windows, and VNC 2.8 for Linux. Actually it might be a good idea for me to try both VNC and teraterm for my local network to see how it's setup, and then I can progress with the live server. But I want to at least install an X Window on the live server at this very moment. I am on holidays now so have time to do this right now. Cheers Louis . -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] How to Use VNC !!
Hi James et al: I have installed VNC version 3.3 on the master machine running Windows 2000. I have also installed VNC version 2.8 on the slave PC running Linux. I opened VNC on the master PC and entered the IP address for the Linux machine, and I got connect failed after I connect. Is there anything I have to do on the Linux machine, like start a client ? Also how do I do these fancy X forwarding stuff with VNC ? No help manual was installed from the software I installed. Cheers Louis. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
