Re: [SLUG] apt

2003-04-03 Thread Adam Hewitt
I have tried cutting the source list down to one line, and it still does
the same thing. Besides that my desktop machine has more sources than
you could poke a stick at and it never segfaults..!!

Any other ideas??

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 12:24, Peter Chubb wrote:
  Adam == Adam Hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Adam Hi All, I am having some serious problems with apt on one of my
 Adam servers...here is the output:
 
 I find that apt-get segfaults if you have too many sources in
 /etc/apt/sources.list --- try cutting them down.
 
 Peter c
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[SLUG] TV Excel PV-BT878P+ w/FM REMOTE??

2003-04-03 Thread metal fatigue
got the TV Excel PV-BT878P+ w/FM card working welll.. however, i was
wondering if anyone had any luck configuring and using the bundled
remote and IR receiver??

I'm a newbie so in-depth explanations would help me greatly.. 

thanks


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RE: [SLUG] Dick Smith internal modem: no carrier, notechnical support

2003-04-03 Thread Martin Ellison
OK, I've done some more investigating.

The modem is an Intel 536EP which used to be (I think) Conexant. It is a
'Host Assisted Modem' (HaM).

I installed the standard Intel drivers: they came on a CD with the
hardware. There is a free driver (open source) and a proprietary driver
(binary only). I compiled the source and installed both drivers.

I've checked all the diagnostic information output under XP and typed
the same commands under Redhat, with basically the same results. In
particualr, AT+GCI? gives 09 in both cases (i.e. the modem knows it is
in Australia). The results from AT+GCI=? were shorter, perhaps because
the Linux driver is a later version than the XP driver.

I've also taken the commands from the XP modem log and typed them into
minicom. Everything is OK until I do ATDT and then under XP I
connect and under Redhat I get NO CARRIER

I think it's going back at the weekend. Even if there is some way I can
get it working in theory, I don't have the time to find out in practice.

Regards,
Martin


On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you know what type of modem it is? Is it a connexant?  Check out `cat 
 /proc/pci` and also under windows... Often internal modems need special 
 drivers to function under Linux.

 Martin Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I've now tried all sorts of combinations to no avail X1, X2, X3. X4,
 all do not work.
 
 Under XP, I don't need anything -- using Hyperterminal I just say ATDT
 number and I get my ISP's login prompt. Undex Linux, I say exactly the
 same thing to minicom, and I get NO CARRIER.
 
 Very strange.

=I've bought myself a Dick Smith internal modem, which they 
=claim works with Linux (there's a little Tux on the packaging).
=
=It works fine with XP.
=
=I've installed the Linux driver that comes with the modem. 
=This talks to the modem, but all it comes up with is NO CARRIER.

Try slipping an X3 into the init string (or the dial string, 
 doesn't
really matter which. That tells the modem to not wait for a carrier. 
 X4
will do a blind dial, which you don't want, as X3 waits for about 
 1
second before dialing.

X0 is no dial without carrier and X1 I forget.
  
  me previously:
  
   X3 doesn't make any difference. Still NO CARRIER. 
   
   I'm not sure if it is dialling properly.


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Re: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Martin Ellison
MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from.

So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
might have different permissions (or none).

You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement.

Regards,
Martin

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 10:34, Adam W wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am having a few problems with mySQL. Why would it be doing this:
   * I can login locally on the mySQL box using $mysql -uadamw -p
   * I try and do this through mySQL control center running on
 windows machine and it gives me: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user:
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)
   * I try this on a linux (not the server) box using $mysql
 -uadamw -p and it lets me access it.
   * Last night I could access mySQL via the control center - but
 after a reboot it now refuses. Though last night it allowwed me after
 some changes to hosts.allow, hosts.deny (don't know if that is relevant
 - isnt this just xinetd? I'm not running mySQL through xinetd)
 
 Of course I have set the users table correctly - user adamw is accepted
 from all hosts.
 
 Can anyone pick the error??
 
 Cheers
 
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[SLUG] Sound question, but not Debian. Linux Anti-virus

2003-04-03 Thread mick boda
Hi All,

Took Jeff's advice and considered my current situation ... (ie, two kids under 
3 years and self employed = read!  when?) and reinstalled redhat 8.0 which I 
can at least find my way around in.  I have Debian on another machine so that 
I can play around with that and I have found a guy in Wollongong who is 
willing to teach all that is Debian (when his first Semester Uni exams are 
over).

I have two questions I'd like to post.  The first is 

What Linux Anti-Virus are you using?

Second question relates to a weird problem in Redhat 8.0 with sound.  It works 
under gnome but not under KDE?  It's the same AC97 card that I was fooling 
with in Debian.

On a final note, I did get sound working under debian, I reinstalled debian, 
pressed F3 key, used the bf24 image ran sndconfig and listened to some mp3s.

I'll keep you posted from time to time on how I go

Regards

Mick



 
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Fw: followup: [SLUG] Almost impossible Question : Latest XFree86install on debian

2003-04-03 Thread Roger Salisbury



OK 2 files weren't attached.
until now


- Original Message - 
From: Roger Salisbury 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:05 PM
Subject: followup: [SLUG] Almost impossible Question : Latest 
XFree86 install on debian

My first ever Post  what a response 

Thanks guys
Here info for those with similiar 
probs

Tom provided a work aroud solution:
#
Sent me his file 
"XF86Config-4.txt"
generated on mandrake 
which I edited to suit my keyboard  mouse as 
per
"XF86Config-4.new"
And it works great!
Files attached FYI .
#

To fix the the 
"upgradeXfree86"problem ..

Scott suggested:
#
It appears to be missing the zlib.h file.try installing zlibg1-dev, 

#


 I can't find "zlibg1-dev"
only found :zlibg_1.1.4-1_i386.deb  
zlib-bin1.1.4-1_i386.deb
... any suggestions 
...have tried http://packages.debian.org



James gave this exellent advice:
#
An easier solution would be to use one of the XFree86 4.2.x apt-able 
sources from http://www.apt-get.org/ and 
install the "latest" version using apt. OK, so it wouldn't be as bleeding 
edge as the CVS branch but recent enough to download NVidia's driver, do the 
necessary kernel compile things and reboot. Apparently NVidia's 
how-to works as long as you follow it to the letter
#


.. site currently I can't access

I spent huge number of hrs downloading  
compiling, although I have a work around ,
the problem is ongoing 


Cheers
Roger



Hi Debian users

I'm trying to install a 
Nvidia: Diamond Viper 770 . 
RIVATNT2 
Video Adapter.
on a Woody debian system. The $5 disk at the 
SLUG AGM.
No Joy getting it to work above 800/600 
resolution with "vga" or "nv" drivers.
OK then: load the lasted  
try!
Got latest CVS treefrom info 
at www.xfree86.org. "cvs 
checkout -A xc"
But can't finalise the install!
 have produced the last 16 lines of 
output.

Question IS: what is going wrong , is there a 
fix?
Has anyone failed at this point 
before.

Many Thanks for your help
Cheers
Roger


two commands thus far.
#
#make World ..builds 
OK
#make install ..fails with 
"gunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directory"

Last 16 lines of output:
#

make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib/font/bitmap/module'make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib/font/bitmap'making all in 
lib/font/fontfile...make[4]: Entering directory 
`/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib/font/fontfile'rm -f gunzip.ogcc -c -O2 
-fno-strength-reduce -ansi 
-pedantic -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wundef -I../../../include/fonts -I../include 
-I../../../programs/Xserver/include -I../../../exports/include -I../../.. 
-I../../../exports/include 
-Dlinux -D__i386__ -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE 
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -D_GNU_SOURCE -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DFONTDIRATTRIB  -DBUILD_SPEEDO 
-DBUILD_TYPE1 -DBUILD_CID  -DBUILD_FREETYPE 
-DFONT_ENCODINGS_DIRECTORY=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir\" 
-DX_GZIP_FONT_COMPRESSION 
gunzip.cgunzip.c:9: zlib.h: No such file or directorymake[4]: *** 
[gunzip.o] Error 1make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib/font/fontfile'make[3]: *** [fontfile] Error 
2make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib/font'make[2]: *** 
[install] Error 2make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/lib/cvs/xc/lib'make[1]: *** [install] Error 2make[1]: Leaving 
directory `/var/lib/cvs/xc'make: *** [install] Error 
2
#

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files
FontPath unix/:7100

FontPath /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc
Fontpath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi
FontPath/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi

EndSection



Section ServerFlags
#DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work
#DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- 

RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Adam W
 MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from.
 
 So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have different permissions (or none).
 
 You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement.

I understand that - but I have let my username be accessed from all
hosts. And this works from my linux client box, but not my windows
client box...

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RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Martin Ellison
Can you get in from the win box using the mysql command line client? I
suppose there must be one ffor windows.

Martin

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 21:01, Adam W wrote:
  MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from.
  
  So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have different permissions (or none).
  
  You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement.
 
 I understand that - but I have let my username be accessed from all
 hosts. And this works from my linux client box, but not my windows
 client box...
 
 


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Re: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Rich Buggy
From memory MySQL handles local access differently to remote access. If you
connect from the localhost then it will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] while remote
access will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure both accounts exist and use the password
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] when using mycc from a windows box. (Remember that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] can have different passwords because they are
different users)

Rich

- Original Message -
From: Adam W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org. Au' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem


 Hi All,

 I am having a few problems with mySQL. Why would it be doing this:
 * I can login locally on the mySQL box using $mysql -uadamw -p
 * I try and do this through mySQL control center running on
 windows machine and it gives me: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user:
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)
 * I try this on a linux (not the server) box using $mysql
 -uadamw -p and it lets me access it.
 * Last night I could access mySQL via the control center - but
 after a reboot it now refuses. Though last night it allowwed me after
 some changes to hosts.allow, hosts.deny (don't know if that is relevant
 - isnt this just xinetd? I'm not running mySQL through xinetd)

 Of course I have set the users table correctly - user adamw is accepted
 from all hosts.

 Can anyone pick the error??

 Cheers

 Adam W.

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RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Adam W

 From memory MySQL handles local access differently to remote 
 access. If 
 you
 connect from the localhost then it will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 while remote access will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure both accounts 
 exist and use the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] when using mycc from a 
 windows box. (Remember that [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] can 
 have different passwords because they are different users)

This has fixed the problem, thanks...

It doesn't make sense tho... Webmin was saying user adamw had access
from ALL hosts - but obviously hadnt... When I entered in a new user
adamw with host % webmin reported ALL for the hosts access just like the
first one - but obviously there is a little bug in the mysql webmin
module?

Thanks Anyway... It has worked nicely...

Cheers

AW.

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[SLUG] Corel Stuff For Linux

2003-04-03 Thread Kevin Fitzgerald
Title: Message



Hi Lads  
Lasses

Corel used to have 
Photopaint and Draw available as downloads for Linux but they're gone now. Does 
anyone know where I can still get them? Does anyone have them in their Archives? 
I'm happy to drive to you with Blank CD's in order to get a copy. 


Any help would be 
awesome

Kev

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[SLUG] Sound question, but not Debian. Linux Anti-virus

2003-04-03 Thread Mick Boda



Hi Greeno,

I'll be there, you won't miss me, I'll the guy wearing a chicken mesh
framework (good for stopping thrown bottles, etc ... not so good at
stopping over ripened tomatoes hm.. ) and a raincoat.

My wife said I'd better go if all my fans are waiting for me, but she
wants to make sure my life insurance is paid up.  

I've just put the date into Ximian as the 25th of April, slug starts at
6:00pm from memory .. are these details right?

Thanks for the opportunity, I promise not to disappoint.

Regards

Mick



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Re: [SLUG] Corel Stuff For Linux

2003-04-03 Thread Chris D
http://www.filesearching.com/cgi-bin/s?q=corelphotopaintt=fd=x=0y=0l=en

The linux.corel.com servers seem to be going down (including they're ftp
server). Maybe Corel has parted the Linux community :/

Cheers,
Chris

On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 22:54, Kevin Fitzgerald wrote:
 Hi Lads  Lasses
  
 Corel used to have Photopaint and Draw available as downloads for
 Linux but they're gone now. Does anyone know where I can still get
 them? Does anyone have them in their Archives? I'm happy to drive to
 you with Blank CD's in order to get a copy. 
  
 Any help would be awesome
  
 Kev
  
 
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[SLUG] Why is slug mail coming from slug-bounces?

2003-04-03 Thread lukekendall
Up until yesterday, the Sender: field of SLUG mail was filled in as
slug-admin; after that, it's changed to slug-bounces.  I was just
wondering why?

luke

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Re: [SLUG] Why is slug mail coming from slug-bounces?

2003-04-03 Thread Mary
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Up until yesterday, the Sender: field of SLUG mail was filled in as
 slug-admin; after that, it's changed to slug-bounces.  I was just
 wondering why?

Because SLUG's copy of Mailman was upgraded from Mailman 2 to Mailman
2.1, which has lots of nifty new features, and also redoes the aliases
somewhat.

-Mary
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[SLUG] TIP: Thesaurus for Linux

2003-04-03 Thread lukekendall
Just thought I'd mention that an excellent thesaurus program for Linux
called aiksaurus (command line), with a very good GTK front end too.

I'm running an old version from 2001; I see that the old home page
appears to have vanished, though, and it is now hosted at 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aiksaurus/

There appears not to have been a formal release (use cvs instead),
but even the very old version (0.15) I'm using is great!

luke





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[SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...

2003-04-03 Thread Intelligent Dynamic
G'day all...

Using Debian Woody... I've installed the kernel source and packages
(unpacked the kernel and applied a patch to it) ...

I'm about to compile and make a new kernel the traditional way, however I
can remember someone saying an easier way to do it under Debian?

Any pointers?

Thanks...

Mike

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Re: [SLUG] really slick screensavers..

2003-04-03 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=Dave Airlie
 For those of you with Nvidia or ATI cards with hardware TCL, there are
 some welll nifty screensavers packaged for RH8.0/9.0 on
 
 http://www.gurulabs.com/downloads.html
 

The screenshots look fantastic! There are packages for other distros at
http://rss-glx.sourceforge.net/

As soon as the libopenal0 breakage in debian unstable disappears, I'm keen
to give them a try :)

J.
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Re: [SLUG] TIP: Thesaurus for Linux

2003-04-03 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just thought I'd mention that an excellent thesaurus program for Linux
 called aiksaurus (command line), with a very good GTK front end too.

Another excellent thesaurus is wordnet.  This is more oriented to
linguistic applications than to helping humans to write, but the results
are quite readable.  It can be operated via command line, API or various
web front ends.


A Web front end:
http://vancouver-webpages.com/wordnet/

A very funky but less functional front end:
http://www.visualthesaurus.com/

Home page:
http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/~wn/



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[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Debian SIG [April 9th].

2003-04-03 Thread mdoll


Please could you take me off the distribution list







Matt Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/04/2003 19:02:04

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Martin Doll/AU/Schneider)
Subject:  [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Debian SIG [April 9th].



This month: Greg Tyrelle, a PhD Student from BABS, UNSW will be
talking about Using Debian Linux to develop a Bioinformatics Research
Environment

Don't forget to bring your GPG keys, keys are good and need signing.

Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs)
When: Wednesday, 9th of April 19:00 - 20:00
Cost: $0,
  $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee
Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available
Park: - Lincoln Cr (recommended, open til late)
  - Domain (closes 21:00) or
  - Beside the Bells Hotel


Next Month: Jeff Waugh


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Re: [SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...

2003-04-03 Thread Mary
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003, Intelligent Dynamic wrote:
 G'day all...
 
 Using Debian Woody... I've installed the kernel source and packages
 (unpacked the kernel and applied a patch to it) ...
 
 I'm about to compile and make a new kernel the traditional way,
 however I can remember someone saying an easier way to do it under
 Debian?

I'm not sure it's easier, however, it's not harder, and it produces a
.deb file at the end.

It *is* easier when you need to install the nVidia drivers, because you
can compile these against your kernel tree (or against the kernel
headers of stock kernels) and install them as .deb files.

To compile a kernel the Debain way, install the kernel-package package
and read the files in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package - particularly
README.gz - for instructions.

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Re: [SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...

2003-04-03 Thread mkraus

G'day again...


/usr/share/doc/kernel-patch-freeswan says to:

make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --revision=revision number kernel_image

What does revision number refer to?

Thanks...

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Subject:Re: [SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...


On Thu 03 Apr, Intelligent Dynamic bloviated thus:

 I'm about to compile and make a new kernel the traditional way, however I
 can remember someone saying an easier way to do it under Debian?

Install kernel-package and read the docs in
/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/

Basically:
cd /usr/src/linux
make-kpkg kernel_image
dumps a nice .deb in /usr/src

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Re: [SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Debian SIG [April 9th].

2003-04-03 Thread Mary Gardiner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc-ed so that this advice is not sent many times]

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please could you take me off the distribution list

You can remove yourself from SLUG-ANNOUNCE by visiting
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Re: [SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...

2003-04-03 Thread mkraus

Also... (As I'm wantingto apply the freeswan ipsec patch)

If I've unpacked the kernel source, and I go to the kernel source directory (/usr/src/kernel-source-2.x.x) and run /usr/src/kernel-patches/all/apply/freeswan

Can I then just do:

cd /usr/src/kernel-source-2.x.x
make-kpkg kernel_image

?

TIA

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G'day again... 


/usr/share/doc/kernel-patch-freeswan says to: 

make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --revision=revision number kernel_image

What does revision number refer to? 

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On Thu 03 Apr, Intelligent Dynamic bloviated thus:

 I'm about to compile and make a new kernel the traditional way, however I
 can remember someone saying an easier way to do it under Debian?

Install kernel-package and read the docs in
/usr/share/doc/kernel-package/

Basically:
cd /usr/src/linux
make-kpkg kernel_image
dumps a nice .deb in /usr/src

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Re: [SLUG] apt

2003-04-03 Thread Anthony Wood
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 07:07:20PM +1000, Adam Hewitt wrote:
 I have tried cutting the source list down to one line, and it still does
 the same thing. Besides that my desktop machine has more sources than
 you could poke a stick at and it never segfaults..!!
 
 Any other ideas??

strace apt-get update

and see what the last few things are output.

Speculating - maybe your cached deb database was
corrupted (say by a neutrino hitting one of your memory
bits) and saved to disk in a state which causes apt-get
to try and access memory outside that allocated to it
(i.e. segfault)

This would be fixed by rebuilding your deb database,
with apt-something or dpkg-something.

cheers,
Woody

 
 On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 12:24, Peter Chubb wrote:
   Adam == Adam Hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  Adam Hi All, I am having some serious problems with apt on one of my
  Adam servers...here is the output:
  
  I find that apt-get segfaults if you have too many sources in
  /etc/apt/sources.list --- try cutting them down.
  
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Re: [SLUG] Kernel building under Debian...

2003-04-03 Thread Simon Wong
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 23:53, Intelligent Dynamic wrote:
 Using Debian Woody... I've installed the kernel source and packages
 (unpacked the kernel and applied a patch to it) ...
 
 I'm about to compile and make a new kernel the traditional way, however I
 can remember someone saying an easier way to do it under Debian?
 
 Any pointers?

The best reference I have come across is
 http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

To apply the kernel patches for FreeS/WAN don't forget to set the flags
mentioned in the man page i.e. --added-patches=freeswan (man make-kpkg).

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[SLUG] ISP connection probs

2003-04-03 Thread Brad Kowalczyk



I wrote to this list a little while ago regarding 
my netcomm roadster II modem.
I am still having probs with both linux and WinXP, 
XP says it is unresponsive though It works through a terminal program and on 
Linux, strange.

Though it dials my ISP (Telstra) on Linux I cannot 
get a successful connection, my kppp log is below:


 ATZ
 OK
 ATM1L1
 OK
 ATDT019830
 CONNECT 26400

 ** Dial IP **
 Username: 
 Password: 
 Entering PPP Session.
 IP address is 203.54.167.220
 MTU is 1524.

But then I get a timeout error with pppd:
 Apr 3 16:14:41 localhost pppd[14416]: pppd 2.4.1 started 
by root, uid 0
 Apr 3 16:15:40 localhost pppd[14416]: Terminating on 
signal 15.
 Apr 3 16:15:40 localhost pppd[14416]: Exit.
Is this a problem on Telstra's end? I had a look at man pppd 
and found that signal 15 was something about no echo response from peer. Please 
excuse my ignorance in these matters, I desperately want to rid myself of 
windows but I have a lot of learning to do!
Any help greatly appreciated
Brad

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[SLUG] RedHad versions ...

2003-04-03 Thread Jonathan Kelly
Hi all,

I want to run some software that is only certified for RedHat, but
would prefer not to use that, so need to find out what RedHat 7.3 (or
8) actually is, like what versions is it using eg. kernel, xfree,
glibc ... and what what it's compiled with (gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.?)

Cann't find anything on redhat. Anyone know where I can find this
info, or someone who knows?

Cheers.
Jonathan.

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Re: [SLUG] RedHad versions ...

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Airlie

 I want to run some software that is only certified for RedHat, but
 would prefer not to use that, so need to find out what RedHat 7.3 (or
 8) actually is, like what versions is it using eg. kernel, xfree,
 glibc ... and what what it's compiled with (gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.?)

jeez that'll be difficult, RH is built on released software plus a
squillion patches, there kernel, xfree glibc and compilers are heavily
enough patches..

You can just look at the nemas of the RPMS/SRPMS for the package for the
distrib you want so for RH 8.0
kernel-2.4.18-14.i686.rpm
glibc-2.2.93-5.i386.rpm
gcc-3.2-7.i386.rpm
binutils-2.13.90.0.2-2.i386.rpm
XFree86-libs-4.2.0-72.i386.rpm

etc, but these packages probably contain bugfixes over and above released
versions, I doubt they contain any incompatibilities..

Dave.

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[SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Mick Boda
Hi All,

Just a point of clarification.  I appear to be sending replies off the
mark (ie, not to the list).

I'm using Ximian as my mail client.  To post to the list do I hit reply?
Or will this use the private email.  As Jeff Waugh pointed out, my RE:'s
keep changing, that's because I usually type a a new e-mail to respond,
fearing that hitting reply sends the email to the private address.

This is only mailing list I use, everyone else I speak to is through
forums, which are obviously different.

Regards

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Re: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Peter Hardy
On 04 Apr 2003 11:33:41 +1000 Mick Boda wrote:
 I'm using Ximian as my mail client.  To post to the list do I hit
 reply? Or will this use the private email.

If you hit the reply button on the toolbar, that will reply privately. 
Check the Actions menu, and it should have a Reply to List entry, that
will set the To: address to the mailing list.

Have a play (without hitting send ;-), and see what the different reply
buttons do, basically.

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Re: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Right mouse on the email in the top email listing and choose 'reply to
list'

HTH

Stu

On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 11:33, Mick Boda wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Just a point of clarification.  I appear to be sending replies off the
 mark (ie, not to the list).
 
 I'm using Ximian as my mail client.  To post to the list do I hit reply?
 Or will this use the private email.  As Jeff Waugh pointed out, my RE:'s
 keep changing, that's because I usually type a a new e-mail to respond,
 fearing that hitting reply sends the email to the private address.
 
 This is only mailing list I use, everyone else I speak to is through
 forums, which are obviously different.
 
 Regards
 
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RE: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Bernie Pannell
 From: Mick Boda

 I'm using Ximian as my mail client.  To post to the list do I hit reply?
 Or will this use the private email.  As Jeff Waugh pointed out, my RE:'s
 keep changing, that's because I usually type a a new e-mail to respond,
 fearing that hitting reply sends the email to the private address.

you want your replies to go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for me, using Outlook, I must hit Reply to All to get the slug address
included, otherwise, like you, if I hit Reply it only goes to the private
address of the sender, which, in my opinion, is broken, meaning that Reply
*should* default to the slug address.

As others have just indicated, looks like Ximian has a Reply to List
button.

Regards,
Bernie.

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Re: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Mary
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003, Mick Boda wrote:
 Just a point of clarification.  I appear to be sending replies off the
 mark (ie, not to the list).
 
 I'm using Ximian as my mail client.  To post to the list do I hit
 reply?  Or will this use the private email.  As Jeff Waugh pointed
 out, my RE:'s keep changing, that's because I usually type a a new
 e-mail to respond, fearing that hitting reply sends the email to the
 private address.

Reply will reply only to the sender, that is, privately. Reply to
all or Group Reply will send mail to the sender, and anyone they sent
the mail to (in this case, normally the sender and the list).

Evolution also has a reply to list function, which it *seems* you can
access by right clicking on a message. Many people like you to just
reply to the list, rather than reply-to-all, because reply-to-all which
will send the original sender two copies - your one and the one that
went to the list.

See Replying to Email Messages in
http://www.ximian.com/support/manuals/evolution_10/usage-mail-getnsend-send.html

Failing all else, you can press Reply and change To: field to read
[EMAIL PROTECTED], rather than what was there already, but
reply-to-list should do this.

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RE: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Dave Airlie
 included, otherwise, like you, if I hit Reply it only goes to the private
 address of the sender, which, in my opinion, is broken, meaning that Reply
 *should* default to the slug address.

This is something that comes up on every list all the time, neither way is
truly broken, its like KDE vs GNOME or vi vs emacs, so you should say
really, in my opinion, is not an ideal configuration.

Another list I'm on has the same policy and the listmaster always backs it
up with the simple line, better to send a mail to one person in error
than 1000

Dave.
 
 As others have just indicated, looks like Ximian has a Reply to List
 button.

 Regards,
 Bernie.



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[SLUG] vim to use tabs not spaces

2003-04-03 Thread David Fitch

hi all,

I want pasting in vim to use tabs not spaces.

Everything is fine normally except when I use the mouse
to copy and paste from vim in one terminal to another
(using set paste in the dest term).  In this case the
tabs in the original file end up being spaces in the
destination file.  How can I stop this happening?
(ie. preserve the tabs)

(google turns up plenty of people wanting it the
other way, ie. vi to automatically convert tabs
to spaces but I like tabs not spaces)

Dave.


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Re: [SLUG] vim to use tabs not spaces

2003-04-03 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 11:28:11AM +0930, David Fitch wrote:

 I want pasting in vim to use tabs not spaces.
 
 Everything is fine normally except when I use the mouse
 to copy and paste from vim in one terminal to another

I don't think it's anything to do with vim.  When the text is copied
from the xterm, tabs are converted to spaces.  So by the time vim gets
it, there are no tabs in the text.

 tabs in the original file end up being spaces in the
 destination file.  How can I stop this happening?
 (ie. preserve the tabs)

I don't think you can.


Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Replying to the list

2003-04-03 Thread Mary
Everyone who has seen the Reply-To argument before should either skip
this mail, or read my very last paragraph, as it describes new Mailman
functionality that *may* obselete this argument. Replies to slug-chat (I
set the header myself!)

On Fri, Apr 04, 2003, Dave Airlie wrote:
  included, otherwise, like you, if I hit Reply it only goes to the private
  address of the sender, which, in my opinion, is broken, meaning that Reply
  *should* default to the slug address.
 
 This is something that comes up on every list all the time, neither way is
 truly broken, its like KDE vs GNOME or vi vs emacs, so you should say
 really, in my opinion, is not an ideal configuration.

The arguments against and for setting replies to go to the list are
here:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

http://www.metasystema.org/essays/reply-to-useful.mhtml

You'll find that the vast majority of Linux and Free Software mailing
lists do *not* set Reply-To the list - that is, the vast majority are
like the SLUG lists. This herd effect is part of the reason I don't like
to have the Reply-To set to point to the list - people will have to deal
with the group-reply or list-reply solution at some point.

Important note: SLUG now uses Mailman 2.1. If you go to
http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug and go to the box where you can
edit our subscription options, you'll see a Avoid duplicate copies of
messages?. People who really hate receiving two copies when someone
replies to them might find this useful. (Yes, procmail users, if you
filter on something other than TO_ this still means the mails will go to
the wrong place - I do this too, hence I don't use the Avoid duplicate
copies of messages? feature, but it's still worth pointing out.)

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[SLUG] Debian SIG [April 9th].

2003-04-03 Thread Matt Hope

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This month: Greg Tyrelle, a PhD Student from BABS, UNSW will be
talking about Using Debian Linux to develop a Bioinformatics Research
Environment

Don't forget to bring your GPG keys, keys are good and need signing.

Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs)
When: Wednesday, 9th of April 19:00 - 20:00=20
Cost: $0,
  $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee
Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available
Park: - Lincoln Cr (recommended, open til late)
  - Domain (closes 21:00) or
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Next Month: Jeff Waugh


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Re: [SLUG] RedHad versions ...

2003-04-03 Thread mlh
On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 11:07:11AM +1000, Jonathan Kelly wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I want to run some software that is only certified for RedHat, but
 would prefer not to use that, so need to find out what RedHat 7.3 (or
 8) actually is, like what versions is it using eg. kernel, xfree,
 glibc ... and what what it's compiled with (gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.?)
 
 Cann't find anything on redhat. Anyone know where I can find this
 info, or someone who knows?

www.redhat.com ?

?!


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[SLUG] Server Hosting - Recommendations?

2003-04-03 Thread dan
Hi,

I have my own Linux server which a company is hosting for me currently in
Sydney.  I am not happy with their service so I am looking for another
hosting company.  I maintain and manage the machine myself so I am after a
good co-location hosting company who can provide Internet connection, DNS
server services and backup and monitoring.

I am a small specialised company who is looking for a hosting partner who is
interested in simply providing an efficient, reliable service and not charge
the earth.

Can anyone recommend a company from personal experience?  They would need to
be located in Sydney.

Any ideas?

Dan


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Re: [SLUG] Server Hosting - Recommendations?

2003-04-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=dan

 I am a small specialised company who is looking for a hosting partner who
 is interested in simply providing an efficient, reliable service and not
 charge the earth.
 
 Can anyone recommend a company from personal experience?  They would need
 to be located in Sydney.

Pacific Internet: http://www.pacific.net.au/

Anchor Systems: http://www.anchor.net.au/

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[SLUG] Crypto Filesystem Modules

2003-04-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
Hey hey,

Does anyone currently use one of the crypto filesystem modules/patches in a
production environment? I trust my email to it or I trust my clients
email to it are the kind of testimonials I'm looking for. ;-)

Any recommendations?

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] Crypto Filesystem Modules

2003-04-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Jeff Waugh

 Does anyone currently use one of the crypto filesystem modules/patches in
 a production environment?

(Or, indeed, alternative non-kernel systems such as cfs?)

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Re: [SLUG] RedHad versions ...

2003-04-03 Thread Mike MacCana
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 18, 2003 at 11:07:11AM +1000, Jonathan Kelly wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I want to run some software that is only certified for RedHat, but
  would prefer not to use that, so need to find out what RedHat 7.3 (or
  8) actually is, like what versions is it using eg. kernel, xfree,
  glibc ... and what what it's compiled with (gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.?)

Check any Red Hat mirror for a listing of the packages included.

IIRC, the short answer is kernel 2.2, xfree 4.x, glibc 2.2 and a
customised GCC, 2.96 RH.

See:
http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_gcc.html

for the (many) reasons why.

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Re: [SLUG] Server Hosting - Recommendations?

2003-04-03 Thread Stuart Guthrie
Hi Dan,

try:

http://www.zim.net.au

ADSL, all IPs static. Good plans, can do for as little as 50 something a
month. Like most others, they resell Telstra.


Stu

On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 13:33, dan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have my own Linux server which a company is hosting for me currently in
 Sydney.  I am not happy with their service so I am looking for another
 hosting company.  I maintain and manage the machine myself so I am after a
 good co-location hosting company who can provide Internet connection, DNS
 server services and backup and monitoring.
 
 I am a small specialised company who is looking for a hosting partner who is
 interested in simply providing an efficient, reliable service and not charge
 the earth.
 
 Can anyone recommend a company from personal experience?  They would need to
 be located in Sydney.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Dan
 
 
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[SLUG] just use pppconfig then run pon dave

2003-04-03 Thread Geoffrey Cowling
Sorry--so I lied ... :-)

I tried again to dialup on to ISP, finding that pon has a log file.

This is part of it: does this say why it does not work?


(Where is the eth0 address 192. ... kept? it is not in /etc/hosts..)

Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr
137.111.7.203 compress VJ 0f 01]
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr
137.111.7.203 compress VJ 0f 01]
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: not replacing existing default route
to eth0 [192.168.1.2]
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Cannot determine ethernet address for
proxy ARP
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: local  IP address 137.111.7.203
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: remote IP address 137.111.7.4
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid
1489)
Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid
1489), status =  0x1

Lancre:/usr/share/doc/ppp#  plog


Apr  4 13:47:56 Lancre pppd[1474]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1
magic=0x569036f]
Apr  4 13:47:56 Lancre pppd[1474]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0]
Apr  4 13:48:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2
magic=0x569036f]
Apr  4 13:48:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0]
Apr  4 13:48:56 Lancre pppd[1474]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3
magic=0x569036f]
Apr  4 13:48:56 Lancre pppd[1474]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x

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Re: [SLUG] just use pppconfig then run pon dave

2003-04-03 Thread Damien Gardner Jnr
From: Geoffrey Cowling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I tried again to dialup on to ISP, finding that pon has a log file.
 This is part of it: does this say why it does not work?
 (Where is the eth0 address 192. ... kept? it is not in /etc/hosts..)
Depends on your distro - in debian its in /etc/network/interfaces..

 Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Cannot determine ethernet address for
 proxy ARP
Ignore this line
 Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: local  IP address 137.111.7.203
 Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: remote IP address 137.111.7.4
 Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid
 1489)
 Apr  4 13:47:26 Lancre pppd[1474]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid
 1489), status =  0x1
Well, the PPP link came up and is working fine.. :)
ping 137.111.7.4 should return ping replies.. - if not, your firewalling
might be screwy?

Cheers,

Damien

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RE: [SLUG] RedHad versions ...

2003-04-03 Thread Stalker, Doug



 I want to run some software that is only certified for RedHat, but 
 would prefer not to use that, so need to find out what RedHat 7.3 (or
 8) actually is, like what versions is it using eg. kernel, xfree, 
 glibc ... and what what it's compiled with (gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.?)


If the software interacts with the kernel (e.g.: it includes kernel modules)
it may be more complicated that just matching versions; you may need to
install the RedHat kernel source code, and build yourself a kernel using it
before the modules will load.  This is by no means impossible, but it's not
exactly trivial either.

There may also be problems caused by the differing layouts for directories
and so on; again that depends on what the software is, and also how
different the distribution of Linux you are using is.   

 - Doug


(ob-disclaimer: these are my opinions, not compant opinions, etc etc)
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[SLUG] IPSec blues

2003-04-03 Thread mkraus

G'day all...

With our recent server crash, I've been trying to reimplement the VPN. 

Please note that on the other end of the VPN they are using FreeS/WAN IPsec 1.97 and on this side 1.99

I've copied the /etc/ipsec.conf and /etc/ipsec.secrets file from the crashed machine into the replacement box.

I start ipsec - /etc/init.d/ipsec start - everything fine.
No proper routing comes up though when I do a 'route' and I can't ping the other side.

I've been playing with things like 'ipsec auto --ready' and 'ipsec auto --up connection name used in /etc/ipsec.conf' .. to no avail on either end.

On the far end I get:
112 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney #46: STATE_QUICK_I1: initiate
010 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney #46: STATE_QUICK_I1: retransmission; will wait 20s for response
010 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney #46: STATE_QUICK_I1: retransmission; will wait 40s for response
031 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney #46: max number of retransmissions (2) reached STATE_QUICK_I1. No acceptable response to our first Quick Mode message: perhaps peer likes no proposal
000 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney #46: starting keying attempt 2 of an unlimited number, but releasing whack

When trying the same this on this end I get:
029 woolloomooloo-nth_sydney: cannot initiate connection without knowing peer IP address

More information is available upon request.

Any help would be greatly appreciated I've spent most of today trying to figure this out and things are gloomy.

Thanks.

Mike
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