Re: [SLUG] Batch Convert *.tif to *.jpg
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Broun, Bevan wrote:
you might save a step thus avoiding invoking sed
for i in *.tif; do
convert $i ${i%tif}jpg
done
see the convert utility from the ImageMagick set of programs.
if its installed you could probably just do
for f in *.tif;do
g=`echo $f | sed -e 's/.tif$/.jpg/'`
convert $f $g
done
BB
kind regards
Norm
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Re: [SLUG] Anyone used Perl's Filter package !!
At Mon, 27 Oct 2003 13:17:11 +1100 (EST), education wrote: I download the package Filter-1.26 from CPAN. I'm having problems understanding how to use this package to get Perl code to go through the filter before compilation. Also does this method clearly prevents anyone from seeing the source code of a Perl script ? Unless it uses some form of encryption, then all you've done is obscured the code - anyone who can use the same filter can read the source code. See Embperl for an example of a module which *does* do encrypted source code - you compile a private key into the embperl module and then use it to encrypt source code files (see crypto/README in Embperl source). Be aware that a determined person with access to the files and the ability to run them can always find out what it does. You'd have to have some peculiar needs to make this approach worth the effort (as opposed to simple restrictive file permissions, for example). -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] LDAP, Samba3 and XP
I solved it. In case anyone is interested, under LDAP samba has a few extra requirement description, profiles location, etc Once I entered in those minor details everything began working beautifully. No need for a W2k server in my client's network :) Hi all, I have tried to implement samba3 with ldap backend and trying to get windows machines to talk friendly. It has been the worst 5 days of my life :( I am finally up to logging on using a windows machine. the problem I get is when a user runs the command window it looks like they are a temp user. the command prompt looks like c:\Documents and Settings\temp.spinaweb. This happens to all users. which means I can't get profiles loaded. has anyone experienced this issue and resolved it? -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb I.T consultants Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Fw: [MLUG] Mandrake 9.2 Fries LG CDROM Drives
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:42, John Coombes wrote: had a lg burner in my debian box with no complaints assuming cdrw are also damagable by mandrake 9.2 they probably just released it too early Not the Distro - its in the kernel and a fix is being created as I write - so one will be able d/l the fix put it on a floppy and instert it during the start of the installation (well at least if you do a F1 - expert and maybe for dumbo default install, I dont know I never do them) yes. apparently its a bug with the atapi flush() command. LG decided to make that firmware upgrade. haha. so its an LG hardware fault and *not* a mandrake one. kernel 2.4.22 uses that by default (during install), so debian users wouldn't have had the problem during install because the latest version there is 2.4.18. -- Colin Charles, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bytebot.net/ Binh. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Batch Convert *.tif to *.jpg
'basename' is the utility purpose built for this:
convert $i `basename $i .tif`.jpg
sure, slower than that bash fancy-ass stuff,
but hey it works on all shells, even crazy
shells like csh.
Matt
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:33:45 +1100 (AUS Eastern Daylight Time)
Norman Widders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Broun, Bevan wrote:
you might save a step thus avoiding invoking sed
for i in *.tif; do
convert $i ${i%tif}jpg
done
see the convert utility from the ImageMagick set of programs.
if its installed you could probably just do
for f in *.tif;do
g=`echo $f | sed -e 's/.tif$/.jpg/'`
convert $f $g
done
BB
kind regards
Norm
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[SLUG] theage: Sun scores with NSW government
Sun Microsystems has signed a four-year contract with the New South Wales government which allows government agencies to purchase the company's software products without having to undergo their own tendering process. blah blah StarOffice, blah blah, Sun Java, gnome, mozilla and 'a linux operating system' http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/28/1067233147909.html -- Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Questions about AWStats Logs !!
Hi Joelh: My replies quoted [Louis] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Heenan Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2003 08:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Questions about AWStats Logs !! Issue 1: First let start with Unique Visitor. From my understanding a unique visitor is a host that came to a web site. A unique visitor can have more than one visits, and a visit can consist of more than 1 page viewed. Not let's say I connect to the internet using my ISP that uses dynamic IP addressing. If I go to my own main url site (i.e the base index.html) will AWStats count this as a Unique Visitor if the IP address changes from each connection despite the fact that I visted the site myself ? A unique visitor is one IP address accessing your website in one day, I think. If you have a dynamic IP and you visit your website you will be counted as one visitor for that day, unless you IP address is reallocated during the day and you visit again. Most dynamic IPs I have experienced do not change that frequently. Telstra cable - around 3 months. When I had dyamic ADSL - around a week with the one IP. Also I don't know about your network setup, if you are hosting at home its most likely all the connections would be local connections. [Louis] I host the server in the US. For such a visit does this unique visitor falls in the category Direct address / Bookmarks from AWStats Connect to site from ? If so then does Direct address / Bookmarks means I'm the one visited the site, i.e if most of the hits are from hosts that resolves to my ISP domain name provider ? There is a HTTP field called referrer in which the browser provides the URL of a website that has linked to your website. If the referrer is empty then it is a direct address / bookmark. That means the user has typed it in or selected a bookmark. Otherwise they have followed a link. If the majority of hits resolve to you, chances are you have been the major viewer of your website yes. Direct address / Bookmarks does not imply you though as your friends may have bookmarked your website. Issue 2: = If I connect to my site via ftp or SSH is this also logged as Unique Visitor ? Does uploads and downloads counts as visits ? Awstats is just a program processing error_log and access_log. This is only connected to httpd. You can set it up to log mail and ftp but this is done separately with a different conf file. Issue 3: = AWStats has a section called Authenticated users (Top 10). What falls in the category Other logins (and/or anonymous users) ? Sorry not sure, I would guess it would be the logins that don't make the top 10 or the anonymous log ins? Issue 4: == Cron scripts that accesses web pages not via browser but command line. Does AWStats count stats for this as hits and logged them as Unique Visitors for host that resolve to the domain name where the cron is executed ? By default they are included. There is an option called SkipHosts which can be used to skip them. [Louis] I see. What conf file do I have to modify ? For SkipHost I just enter the full IP address of the server ? Also can I use this SkipHost so that when I connect to the site from my dial up ISP AWStats won't log these hits ? Cheers -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Debian: Webmin Without Kaffe?
G'day, Is it possible to install webmin (from dselect) without using kaffe's JVM? I have woody installed and hoping that Sun jdk will be the only JVM installed. Everytime Im using dselect to install webmin, it always required kaffe as the JVM. How can I avoid this? I set PATH into the debian already. Best Regards, Phillip. __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Monthly Meeting Friday 31 October 2003
As a further addendum, the discussion theme for SLUGlets will be on spam e-mail and anti-spam techniques. Cheers, Jan. On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 00:28, Jan Schmidt wrote: Sydney Linux Users' Group Monthly meeting: October When: Friday, October 31, 6:30pm - 9:30pm Where: UTS Broadway (http://www.slug.org.au/events/uts.html) The October SLUG meeting features the all-star Annodex.net core team, introducing Annodex, a new format for video surfing. Also, Angus Lees will be taking us through mod_perl/Apache. As usual, SLUGlets will be running in another room during the 2nd half of the meeting for those who do not wish to attend the technical talk. Suggestions and offers for SLUGlets gratefully accepted by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6:30pm: Doors Open 6:45pm: The Usual Suspects QA - Introduction to SLUG + What has Linux done for/to me lately? + SLUG News Discussion 7:10pm: Vote regarding mailing list policy Following recent events on the SLUG mailing lists, there will be a formal vote to decide future policy. More details below 7:30pm: General Talk Annodex.net core team introduce Annodex 8:15pm: Break Refreshments in the foyer, for a small covering charge. 8:35pm: Split into two groups for: + Special Interest: Angus Lees - Apache/mod_perl internals + SLUGlets: quick talks and discussion of Linux and Free Software. Dinner Dinner at Spice Boys (Indian), $20 per head. Intro to Annodex.net Presenters: Conrad Parker, Silvia Pfeiffer, Andre Pang (aka The All-Star Annodex.net Core Team) Annodex media is a new format for video surfing, developed by a bunch of slugsy coders at CSIRO in Sydney. The format lets you do heaps of webby stuff with media files like deep linking, searching, querying and blogging. It's easy to use and it plays nicely with all your hardware, software and wetware: servers, proxies, databases, web monkeys, sysadmins, you name it, everyone loves Annodex. The format is based on Ogg technologies, and a BSD-licensed open source toolkit and full specs are available at www.annodex.net. We're proposing it as an open standard through the IETF and we're damn proud to give sluggers a first look at it. We'll show you everything you need to get going with Annodex on Linux -- how to get surfing with it, how to create cool content, and the basics of dynamically generating video and managing media files. Apache/mod_perl Angus Lees will be taking us through Apache/mod_perl internals in depth. mod_perl is more than CGI scripting on steroids. It is a whole new way to create dynamic content by utilizing the full power of the Apache web server to create stateful sessions, customized user authentication systems, smart proxies and much more. Yet, magically, your old CGI scripts will continue to work and work very fast indeed. With mod_perl you give up nothing and gain so much! Vote Financial SLUG members should bring their membership cards, as we'll be holding a vote to formalise the mailing list spam policy as per this motion: As a financial member I would like to propose a motion for the nextmeeting that we vote on the slug mailing list.a) Leaving it alone. b) Moving to a moderated list.c) Changing it to a members only list.d) Changing it to a financial members only list.Option b) will revert to an a) unless we have at least 3 volunteers for a guaranteed 12 months. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Questions about AWStats Logs !!
Issue 4: == Cron scripts that accesses web pages not via browser but command line. Does AWStats count stats for this as hits and logged them as Unique Visitors for host that resolve to the domain name where the cron is executed ? By default they are included. There is an option called SkipHosts which can be used to skip them. [Louis] I see. What conf file do I have to modify ? For SkipHost I just enter the full IP address of the server ? Also can I use this SkipHost so that when I connect to the site from my dial up ISP AWStats won't log these hits ? http://awstats.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html This explains where the config file should be and what it is called. I don't mean to shrug off your question but you are honestly better off reading the official manual for this. I will only explain it more poorly. Have a look at the documentation in the conf file and on the website about SkipHosts. You should not need to enter the full IP of the server because it will only access itself through localhost. To ignore all hits from your ISP you may need to ignore everyone going through your ISP which may or may not be a good idea. If you are on a major ISP then your reporting may become skewed. Joel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Looking for openoffice resource
Hi all, I want to develop some openoffice apps where I can collect data from a user and input the information into a spread sheet. Can anyone point me to some helpful list to help me out? TIA Kevin Saenz -- Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: [SLUG-ANNOUNCE] Codefest!
On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 10:59, Benno wrote: When: Saturday, November 8, 9:00am - 10:00pm Where: UNSW Kensington - K17 Seminar Room Come along to enjoy an action packed day of full-on coding. Power an limited bandwidth will be supplied; bring your own hardware. This codefest has no specific theme, so you just start hacking on your favourite project. Even if you don't code you might wan't to come along and watch Erik's challenge to try and find/fix any bug in any piece of software that meets the following conditions: * Software is released under any of the standard Open Source or Free Software licenses. * Is available as an official Debian package. * The version of the package in Debian unstable has the bug. I'm so tempted to get squid-3's pre-release into unstable, got a couple of killer bugs there :}. Rob -- GPG key available at: http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] cygwin install problem
Hi all, This may be a little OT but I am trying to install cygwin on my XP box, but i am having some trouble. Upon running the installer it finds the temp download directory and seems to pass all checksums and then says install is complete and my cygwin directory seems to have the full directory tree under it, but the directories are all empty, except for /etc/setup which has a timestamp file and /var/log which contains 2 log files (see attached). Does anyone have a clue as to what could be happening here? I have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer but it makes no difference, it still wont install them. cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
When you say you have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer have you both checked the boxes, as well as changed the status from default to install? Fil Brad Kowalczyk wrote: Hi all, This may be a little OT but I am trying to install cygwin on my XP box, but i am having some trouble. Upon running the installer it finds the temp download directory and seems to pass all checksums and then says install is complete and my cygwin directory seems to have the full directory tree under it, but the directories are all empty, except for /etc/setup which has a timestamp file and /var/log which contains 2 log files (see attached). Does anyone have a clue as to what could be happening here? I have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer but it makes no difference, it still wont install them. cheers, Brad -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies IT Contractor 0403 53 12 71 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
Not sure exactly what you problem is. I have Cygwin on XP and this works for me. 1. Grap the latest setup.exe and setup.ini and put it in a download directory (for me ...My Documents\Kits\Cygwin) 2. Choose the option to download to a local directory (the same as above) 3. Download the files as appropriate Cygwin installer will then exit 4. Rerun the cygwin setup.exe 5. Choose to install from a local directory (as above). (Make sure it has the correct root directory for destination (for me C:\cygwin) 6. Choose to install (or not) the various packages By changing the view in the setup window you should be able to easily see (in a single list) which packages it is choosing to download/install. It may be for you these aren't checked as required. Martin Visser ,CISSP Network and Security Consultant Technology Infrastructure - Consulting Integration HP Services 3 Richardson Place North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670Mobile *: +61-411-254-513 Fax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : martin.visserAThp.com -Original Message- From: Brad Kowalczyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] cygwin install problem Hi all, This may be a little OT but I am trying to install cygwin on my XP box, but i am having some trouble. Upon running the installer it finds the temp download directory and seems to pass all checksums and then says install is complete and my cygwin directory seems to have the full directory tree under it, but the directories are all empty, except for /etc/setup which has a timestamp file and /var/log which contains 2 log files (see attached). Does anyone have a clue as to what could be happening here? I have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer but it makes no difference, it still wont install them. cheers, Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DSPAM vs Spamassassin
Hi there! Since I won't be able to come Friday and sluglets includes a chat about spam agents, I have my 2c to toss in comparing DSPAM to spamassassin. My comments for the sluglets, FWIW follow: Install --- dspam is considerably harder to install than spamassassin. It hooks directly as the delivery agent into postfix and feeds procmail (in my case) after that. Spamassassin was very simple to install for a small site hooking in as series of procmail commands. Winner Spamassassin. Config and easy of use -- dspam is user-level based as a default and requires each user to 'train' the dspam setup as to what they regard is spam by forwarding to their own userspam account. For example mine was sfg for normal mail which I forwarded to sfgspam to tell dspam that the mail item was spam. In evo, this can be laborious (Ctrl-F, type in spamemailaddress Ctl-Enter x 300 emails). What might have improved dspam was if I could configure it to recognise everything in an imap folder as spam (eg the 'spam' folder) since drag-drop of multiple emails to a folder is a much easier exercise in evo, moz mail etc. This would required dspam to talk imap which I don't think is on the cards RSN. spamassassin, you just let run, you can fiddle with /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf if you don't get out much, but really there is no need. Winner Spamassassin. Usefulness -- I was forwarding spam emails for about 3 weeks - maybe 300 odd. At this point it only managed to spot 2 spam emails itself. At this point I decided that my typical user population would not have the patience to cope with this much training so gave up - was it 2 emails from recognising 90% of my spam maybe but I don't think so... Spamassassin was instantly useful and filters about 90-95% of all spam on the server. Winner Spamassassin. Conclusion -- I'd say that currently spamassassin wins by a country mile. It's easy to config, instantly useful and for low volume sites doesn't even need much tuning. There is a daemon version which I imagine helps the higher vol sites. DSPAM has promise but lacks an easy way to teach it whats what. I love the concept of teaching it to recognise spam but the execution fails to deliver currently. Perhaps a true spam hater would install both, dspam as the delivery agent passing off to procmail which then includes spamassassin to filter any that got through the dspam point. This would be possible. Winner Spamassassin. HTHSomeone Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
Phil Scarratt wrote: When you say you have manually selected all required files for installation in the installer have you both checked the boxes, as well as changed the status from default to install? yes thats right. I forgot to include the log file, I have send it on but because it's size is over the 25kb limit for the slug list it is awaiting moderator approval. cheers, brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OT: Affordable modems that work well with Vgetty
Hi Slugs, Sorry for the off-topic post. I'm looking for recommendations on any type of voice modem available in Australia that is affordable and works well with Vgetty. Maybe even someone selling one second hand? :) Thanks in advance. Regards, Gonzalo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the best place to discuss cygwin setup issues. Really... Rob (cygwin setup maintainer) -- GPG key available at: http://members.aardvark.net.au/lifeless/keys.txt. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cygwin install problem
Robert Collins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the best place to discuss cygwin setup issues. Really... Rob (cygwin setup maintainer) thanks Rob, I'll give it a go. Brad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] [help!] resize root partition
Hi, All: When I installed debian on my laptop, I created a root partition of ~50Meg (stupid). Right now, the root is very close to 100%. Is there a way to enlarge my root partition without rebuild the system completely?? Xun. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] [help!] resize root partition
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All: When I installed debian on my laptop, I created a root partition of ~50Meg (stupid). Right now, the root is very close to 100%. Is there a way to enlarge my root partition without rebuild the system completely?? Xun. If it is ext2 you can use Partition Magic. -- Mark Pearson BSc (Computing) Technical Support, Dept Nuclear Medicine Concord Hospital, Hospital Road, Concord, NSW 2139, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Looking for openoffice resource
From: Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I want to develop some openoffice apps where I can collect data from a user and input the information into a spread sheet. Can anyone point me to some helpful list to help me out? TIA Kevin Saenz One area is Analysis of Financial Markets. Many users of these analysis would input data using spread sheets; then massage the data; and present the resulting data in many forms like indexes, charts, graphs, dependencies, etc. The problem is these processes is manual intensive. So, a user is limited by time and effort to produce the relevant, timely, and comprehensive data to make it worthwhile in terms of investments as the data becomes obsolete very quickly. If you can come up with a solution you may have a worthwhile product. Good luck. Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Codefest!
When: Saturday, November 8, 9:00am - 10:00pm Where: UNSW Kensington - K17 Seminar Room Come along to enjoy an action packed day of full-on coding. Power an limited bandwidth will be supplied; bring your own hardware. This codefest has no specific theme, so you just start hacking on your favourite project. Even if you don't code you might wan't to come along and watch Erik's challenge to try and find/fix any bug in any piece of software that meets the following conditions: * Software is released under any of the standard Open Source or Free Software licenses. * Is available as an official Debian package. * The version of the package in Debian unstable has the bug. * The software runs in user space (ie not kernel code). * Is written in C, C++ or Python. * Has a easy recipe for recreating the problem. * You notify him in advance of the Debian package name. * You can be present to confirm that the bug is fixed. * Time permits :-). Other people will be hacking on a variety of projects, on a variety of hardware, for a variety of different operating systems. (Not just Linux!) (http://www.slug.org.au/events/detail.html?id=102) Cheers, Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DSPAM vs Spamassassin FYI
For some reason this did not post this morning. Here tis again. Since I won't be able to come Friday and sluglets includes a chat about spam agents, I have my 2c to toss in comparing DSPAM to spamassassin. My comments for the sluglets, FWIW follow: Install --- dspam is considerably harder to install than spamassassin. It hooks directly as the delivery agent into postfix and feeds procmail (in my case) after that. Spamassassin was very simple to install for a small site hooking in as series of procmail commands. Winner Spamassassin. Config and easy of use -- dspam is user-level based as a default and requires each user to 'train' the dspam setup as to what they regard is spam by forwarding to their own userspam account. For example mine was sfg for normal mail which I forwarded to sfgspam to tell dspam that the mail item was spam. In evo, this can be laborious (Ctrl-F, type in spamemailaddress Ctl-Enter x 300 emails). What might have improved dspam was if I could configure it to recognise everything in an imap folder as spam (eg the 'spam' folder) since drag-drop of multiple emails to a folder is a much easier exercise in evo, moz mail etc. This would required dspam to talk imap which I don't think is on the cards RSN. spamassassin, you just let run, you can fiddle with /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf if you don't get out much, but really there is no need. Winner Spamassassin. Usefulness -- I was forwarding spam emails for about 3 weeks - maybe 300 odd. At this point it only managed to spot 2 spam emails itself. At this point I decided that my typical user population would not have the patience to cope with this much training so gave up - was it 2 emails from recognising 90% of my spam maybe but I don't think so... Spamassassin was instantly useful and filters about 90-95% of all spam on the server. Winner Spamassassin. Conclusion -- I'd say that currently spamassassin wins by a country mile. It's easy to config, instantly useful and for low volume sites doesn't even need much tuning. There is a daemon version which I imagine helps the higher vol sites. DSPAM has promise but lacks an easy way to teach it whats what. I love the concept of teaching it to recognise spam but the execution fails to deliver currently. Perhaps a true spam hater would install both, dspam as the delivery agent passing off to procmail which then includes spamassassin to filter any that got through the dspam point. This would be possible. Winner Spamassassin. HTHSomeone Stu -- Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eureka IT Pty Ltd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
