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Re: [SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Glen Turner]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 14:17, Kevin Saenz wrote:
> I think the problem is accepting strings, and I couldn't be stuffed 
> getting it to work.


My setup is:

  /etc/modprobe.conf
alias eth1 ndiswrapper
options ndiswrapper if_name=eth1

So setting the key manually would be:

  # iwconfig eth1 key "s:abcdefg"
  # iwconfig eth1 essid "aarnet"

I had more hassle with Fedora wanting names in the "eth[0-9]+" format
than anything else. The ndiswrapper driver uses setting the ESSID as a
commit point (as do a lot of wireless drivers), so you might need to
re-establish the ESSID for the changed WEP key to take effect.

I'm not sure if Mandrake uses the Red Hat sytle configuration. I have:

  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
ONBOOT=no
USERCTL=yes
PEERDNS=yes
TYPE=Wireless
DEVICE=eth1
HWADDR=00:11:22:33:44:55
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ESSID=aarnet
MODE=Managed
IPV6INIT=no

  /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/keys-eth1
KEY=s:abcdefg

Although in reality I use a long random binary key so that the already
too small effective WEP keyspace isn't further reduced.

Setting the ESSID to something obvious is a good idea (eg: your street
address). Then there's no question about intent if someone attaches to
the network.

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and X forwarding woes.

[Tony Green]

On 16/07/2004, at 12:50 PM, Richard Heycock wrote:
I have turned maximum debug on the machine that doesn't work and there
is no mention of X11 unlike the other which clearly indicates that it 
is
setting up X11 forwarding.

In addition to Jan's suggestion, check /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the 
server side of the connection.

Check that X11Forwarding is set to 'yes', even if you try to override 
it on the command line, you can't if it's set to 'no' in that file.
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Re: [SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Kevin Saenz]

I think the problem is accepting strings, and I couldn't be stuffed 
getting it to work.

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 13:44, Kevin Saenz wrote:
 

1. you can't use WEP. (Really who in their right mind would use it 
anyways) IPSec kicks arse.
   

ndiswrapper supports WEP on my Broadcom card, so I'm not sure that
you're pointing the finger at the right party.
 

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Re: [SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Glen Turner]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 13:44, Kevin Saenz wrote:
> 1. you can't use WEP. (Really who in their right mind would use it 
> anyways) IPSec kicks arse.

ndiswrapper supports WEP on my Broadcom card, so I'm not sure that
you're pointing the finger at the right party.

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Re: [SLUG] ssh and X forwarding woes.

[Jan Schmidt]

> Can anyone shed any light on this as I am going completely mad!
> 

Make sure that xbase-clients is installed on the machine you're ssh'ing into
- xauth is required on the destination machine.

J.
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Re: [SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Kevin Saenz]

Besides google being your friend. Have you tried lspci ?
what is the response? I would only assume if it's a current 11g card you 
might be running
a TI chipsett. This is my D-Link card

02:00.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 9066
now if it is a TI chip all you need to do is install ndiswrapper and use 
windoze drivers
(if this is the case you will experience some slight problems
1. you can't use WEP. (Really who in their right mind would use it 
anyways) IPSec kicks arse.
2. you can't use air snort. (Airsnort and most decent tools need prism 
and the other chipset)
3. Guess what 11i has been approved so the cards should be comming out.

if you need help with TI chipset you can find some good docs on 
linuxquestions.org

Hi guys, need some help, I just installed the Netgear WG311 wireless 
card for my ADSL connection, it works fine under windows, however i 
don't know which chipset driver i need to select when i boot in to 
mandrake linux, can someone help?
 
Thanks
 
Steven
 
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Re: [SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Andrew]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 13:06:29 +1000, Steven Chang-Lin Yu  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi guys, need some help, I just installed the Netgear WG311 wireless card
for my ADSL connection, it works fine under windows, however i don't know
which chipset driver i need to select when i boot in to mandrake linux,  
can
someone help?
Thanks
Steven
Hi Steven
Google is your friend!
1st hit from typing WG311 into google  gives "WG311 uses the Atheros  
chipset A5001X."
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[SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0

[Steven Chang-Lin Yu]

Hi guys, need some 
help, I just installed the Netgear WG311 wireless card for my ADSL connection, 
it works fine under windows, however i don't know which chipset driver i need to 
select when i boot in to mandrake linux, can someone help?
 
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[SLUG] ssh and X forwarding woes.

[Richard Heycock]

Hi,

I have a few woes with regards to X11 forwarding over ssh. I have two
machines one debian testing and one debian unstable. I have exactly the
same sshd_config yet I one will allow me to tunnel X11 (unstable) and
the other won't (testing).

I have turned maximum debug on the machine that doesn't work and there
is no mention of X11 unlike the other which clearly indicates that it is
setting up X11 forwarding.

I have checked the permission in both /etc/ssh and ~/.ssh and both are
the same. I have my private/public keys set up and I can log into both
machines without entering a password or a pass phrase(I'm using
ssh-agent).

Can anyone shed any light on this as I am going completely mad!

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Re: [SLUG] Other Kerberos Ticket Manager on Windows/MAC apart from MIT

[David Helstroom]

Hi Oscar,

I haven't had much of a play with it, but Heimdal:
http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/
is meant to be pretty good.

Hope that helps,


Dave.

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 10:22, O Plameras wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> An organization has a farm of KERBEROS Linux/FreeBSD servers and
> wanting to have alternative Kerberos client GPL software for workstations
> that are running MS Windows and MACs.
> 
> They are satisfied (I am too) with what they got from web.mit.edu but wants
> to know other alternative sources.
> 
> Can someone say if there are Kerberos Ticket Manager on Windows/MACs
> apart from  http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/dist/index.htm#KFW2.6.4 ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Oscar Plameras
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Re: [SLUG] Re: [GLUG-chat] Locale and Sort order

[Malcolm V]

On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 06:45, Johnny wrote:

> LANG=en_US
> LC_CTYPE="en_US"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
> LC_TIME="en_US"
> LC_COLLATE="en_US"
> LC_MONETARY="en_US"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
> LC_PAPER="en_US"
> LC_NAME="en_US"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
> LC_ALL=en_US
> 
> export LANG
> export LC_CTYPE
> export LC_NUMERIC
> export LC_TIME
> export LC_COLLATE
> export LC_MONETARY
> export LC_MESSAGES
> export LC_PAPER
> export LC_NAME
> export LC_ADDRESS
> export LC_TELEPHONE
> export LC_LC_MEASUREMENT
> export LC_TELEPHONE
> export LC_IDENTIFICATION
> export LC_ALL

I just have
export LANG=en_AU

This seems to set everything but LC_ALL.

Gentoo has a USE option of nls (native language support), it does not
seem to be well supported however if you turn it off. I got wierd
results when I built several packages without nls and then set the
locale. A rebuild with nls enabled was fine. I wouldn't be surprised if
this use flag disappeared in the future.

Cheers,
Malcolm V.

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[SLUG] Other Kerberos Ticket Manager on Windows/MAC apart from MIT

[O Plameras]

Hi,
An organization has a farm of KERBEROS Linux/FreeBSD servers and
wanting to have alternative Kerberos client GPL software for workstations
that are running MS Windows and MACs.
They are satisfied (I am too) with what they got from web.mit.edu but wants
to know other alternative sources.
Can someone say if there are Kerberos Ticket Manager on Windows/MACs
apart from  http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/dist/index.htm#KFW2.6.4 ?
Thanks.
Oscar Plameras
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[SLUG] [OT] Group purchase of Linksys wrt54gs

[Richard Hayes]

Dear list,

Apologies for an off topic posting.

Some of the Brismesh people have organised a bulk purchase of the Linksys AP @ 
$155 inc GST + $10 shipping 

It is the cheapest Linux boxes you can purchase new :)  

Any one interested please contact me off list. 

Also they have a  Pigtail RP-TNC to N Male RG195 70cm long $45 Including GST, 
for connection to an external antenna 

http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=610
 
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Re: [SLUG] Calendar app for Zaurus 5500??

[Andrew]

Quoting Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,
Are there any better calendar/Appointment apps for the Sharp
Sl5500 Zaurus Linux-based PDA than come with it?  I really miss
DateBk5 on my old now dead Handspring Visor (PalmOS).
Try http://www.killefiz.de/zaurus/ and search for Calender and/or PIM  
(personal information manager)
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[SLUG] Re: [GLUG-chat] Locale and Sort order

[Johnny]

* top posting--- easier to follow
Here's a snip for other mere mortals
Stick this in your profile file, or your .bashrc, or your .xinitrc... I 
think profile is where it belongs.
and yes the guru's are all right, "a" with come after "A", "d" after "D" 
in nautilus.

I tested to see if ELEMFM (another file manager) also started collating 
like this, no it doesnt, it still sticks "a" after "X"... oh well.

Note if you on debian and your "locale - a" shows no locales, then  
apt-get install localeconf, and it will kick off the  installation of 
locales.

LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE="en_US"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE="en_US"
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
LC_ALL=en_US
export LANG
export LC_CTYPE
export LC_NUMERIC
export LC_TIME
export LC_COLLATE
export LC_MONETARY
export LC_MESSAGES
export LC_PAPER
export LC_NAME
export LC_ADDRESS
export LC_TELEPHONE
export LC_LC_MEASUREMENT
export LC_TELEPHONE
export LC_IDENTIFICATION
export LC_ALL
Just another little thing, in nautilus, I also thought quick navigation 
was broken. ie if you type the first letter of a file, it goes there but 
if you hit the letter again, it does not move to the next one. The 
guru's said... just type the actual file name, it goes there, nice.

Oh, if you on debian, nautilus is really only now getting really good in 
SID, before that it had issues.
Can do things like right click and make a new folder, new file, file 
associations etc. Yeah, watch out M$, someones overtaking.

Thx Gareth... damn you good.
Gareth Gregor wrote:
In my normal blundering way I sent the guys at nautilus an email, 
"Hey you got bugs, why does 'a' come after 'X' in the file lists, its 
not logical".
The super guru's sent me an email... "Hey Einstein, you got the C 
locale running... just change the locale".

The guru's may be a little off too. 'Cause A comes before X and a 
comes before x, but a comes after X.

Confused? Ok, files with a capatal letter as the first letter will 
come before the ones with lowercase letters, as will Directories.

Anyway, to answer the questino there are many many ways to change the 
Locale on linux, the one way is when GDM comes up to login you change 
the "lang" type on the menu and the then login, but seen as you dont 
use GDM and just use xinit then you can do this a few otherway. Run 
the command locale and then see its output.

Then to change it you can use locale -a or -m to display all the 
different ones there are, remember to pipe (|) it to less cause there 
are a lot. Then cause its only bothering you in X then in your 
.xinitrc file you can reset them so when X starts up it uses them. eg

locale >> ~/.xinitrc(make sure you use the >> and not >)
then open .xinitrc and change the POSIX to en_ZA or en_US depending on 
where you be from

Or just use
local | sed s/POSIX/en_ZA/g >> ~/.xinitrc
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[SLUG] Deleting routes?

[Johnny]

On my laptop, I have 2 network points, the normal ethernet slot, and the 
wireless card.
They both set to the same IP. ifconfig etc.

Now if I start it with the lan connected, the wire works.
If no cable the wireless works, which is just perfect.
But if I ifdown eth1 (wireless), and then bring it up again, ifup etc, 
it stops working.
Or if I pull the pcmcia wireless card out and stick it back in, same story.

Now if I look at route, its because when I bring the wireless card back 
up, its route comes after the wire route in the table.
ie if I interrupt the wireless card and let the hotplug stuff do its 
work, it puts it after the wire route, they both have the same ip, so 
its snookered, the browser and whatnot start trying to use the wire, 
which isnt there.

I could just not touch the wireless card, but hey its fun pulling it out 
and showing curious people the wonders of wireless.

I could fix it, if only I knew how to delete a route in the table.
route del -net xx netmask xxx dev eth0
does absolutely nothing.
How does one delete a route?
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[SLUG] Re: [GLUG-chat] Locale and Sort order

[Gareth Gregor]

In my normal blundering way I sent the guys at nautilus an email, "Hey you 
got bugs, why does 'a' come after 'X' in the file lists, its not logical".
The super guru's sent me an email... "Hey Einstein, you got the C locale 
running... just change the locale".

The guru's may be a little off too. 'Cause A comes before X and a comes 
before x, but a comes after X.

Confused? Ok, files with a capatal letter as the first letter will come 
before the ones with lowercase letters, as will Directories.

Anyway, to answer the questino there are many many ways to change the 
Locale on linux, the one way is when GDM comes up to login you change the 
"lang" type on the menu and the then login, but seen as you dont use GDM 
and just use xinit then you can do this a few otherway. Run the command 
locale and then see its output.

Then to change it you can use locale -a or -m to display all the different 
ones there are, remember to pipe (|) it to less cause there are a lot. 
Then cause its only bothering you in X then in your .xinitrc file you can 
reset them so when X starts up it uses them. eg

locale >> ~/.xinitrc(make sure you use the >> and not >)
then open .xinitrc and change the POSIX to en_ZA or en_US depending on 
where you be from

Or just use
local | sed s/POSIX/en_ZA/g >> ~/.xinitrc
Anyway, hope it helps, call me if not, if it just rings then i may be on 
my way home and then i wont hear it.

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[SLUG] Re: [GLUG-chat] File associations in linux?

[Gareth Gregor]

Open it with gedit and save as with a different charater set.
Remember?
-G-
Using Gnome desktop, nautilus, on debian sid.
In windows if its xxx.wrd then wordpad starts it, etc etc.
In nautilus on sid associations work in very much the same way, very nice, 
however linux does something that windows doesnt do, yeah I know a hellava 
lot more :) , it has the ability to decipher file types without an extension. 
As I understand it, it peeks at the data and then from a mime-magic file, as 
far as I can tell, it allocates the file type... and finds the right 
application.

I've noticed that some of the howto's show as "type unknown", in nautilus. 
I've tried forcing an association with say text/plain but it wont do it. 
These files have no extension, ie just a filename. Now if I change the name 
to say howtodo.TXT, then I can get it associated.
Its because the text standard in the file is slightly different, possibly a 
russian guy wrote it in english... I think.

If I look at the offending file with "file" it confirms an unknown type, and 
I guess nautilus uses "file" as well.

So... the question, how can I take an unknown, no extension type and make 
"magic" happy?


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[SLUG] Locale and Sort order

[Johnny]

In my normal blundering way I sent the guys at nautilus an email, "Hey 
you got bugs, why does 'a' come after 'X' in the file lists, its not 
logical".
The super guru's sent me an email... "Hey Einstein, you got the C locale 
running... just change the locale".

I have no idea how to do that :)
Please tell...
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[SLUG] File associations in linux?

[Johnny]

Using Gnome desktop, nautilus, on debian sid.
In windows if its xxx.wrd then wordpad starts it, etc etc.
In nautilus on sid associations work in very much the same way, very 
nice, however linux does something that windows doesnt do, yeah I know a 
hellava lot more :) , it has the ability to decipher file types without 
an extension. As I understand it, it peeks at the data and then from a 
mime-magic file, as far as I can tell, it allocates the file type... and 
finds the right application.

I've noticed that some of the howto's show as "type unknown", in 
nautilus. I've tried forcing an association with say text/plain but it 
wont do it. These files have no extension, ie just a filename. Now if I 
change the name to say howtodo.TXT, then I can get it associated.
Its because the text standard in the file is slightly different, 
possibly a russian guy wrote it in english... I think.

If I look at the offending file with "file" it confirms an unknown type, 
and I guess nautilus uses "file" as well.

So... the question, how can I take an unknown, no extension type and 
make "magic" happy?


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[SLUG] Re: Win4Lin or Wine?

[André Pang]

On 15/07/2004, at 10:53 PM, James Gregory wrote:
I just had another thought -- there's a version of MYOB for OSX. If
it's just Windows you're trying to avoid, you could install OSX inside
pearpc to do what you want. There might even be someone on this list
who could help you setup OSX to just start MYOB (There's gotta be a way
to do that, right?)
If your idea of running MYOB involves an hour waiting for the window to 
open, spending money on Mac OS X (because, you know, it's not free as 
in beer), waiting for the Mac OS X Finder booting up successfully 
around 50% of the time (which only takes a whole 10 minutes or so), and 
buying a copy of MYOB for Mac OS X, then sure, that might be a 
solution.  For everyone else who just want to run MYOB, then Win4Lin, 
wine, or VMWware is a slightly less insane option.

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Re: [SLUG] Calendar app for Zaurus 5500??

[David Helstroom]

Hi Peter,

If you are running the standard Sharp ROM, check out:
  www.thekompany.com

I haven't used it, but it could be what you are after (although it does
cost). The calendar that comes with Opie is also quite good (part of
Openzaurus):
  www.openzaurus.com

You could also try flashing the Zaurus to a newer Sharp or Openzaurus ROM.

Hope that helps,


Dave.


Quoting Peter Chubb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Hi,
>
> Are there any better calendar/Appointment apps for the Sharp
> Sl5500 Zaurus Linux-based PDA than come with it?  I really miss
> DateBk5 on my old now dead Handspring Visor (PalmOS).
>
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[SLUG] Re: Win4Lin or Wine?

[James Gregory]

Quoting André Pang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 15/07/2004, at 5:03 PM, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> > I'm desparately trying not to run Windows, just Windows apps,
> > specifically MYOB, and even single user at that.  I don't want to take 
> > a
> > chance on the user seeing anything else that Windows has other than  
> > the
> > specific app.
> 
> If your application works in Windows 98, I highly recommend Win4Lin: 
> I've used it to run plenty of Windows applications (such as MS Office 
> two/three years ago, when wine and StarOffice were both pretty crap).  
> It does require you to use a custom kernel, but they provide patches if 
> you're one of the many people who compile their own kernel.  I can't 
> speak for wine.

I just had another thought -- there's a version of MYOB for OSX. If
it's just Windows you're trying to avoid, you could install OSX inside
pearpc to do what you want. There might even be someone on this list
who could help you setup OSX to just start MYOB (There's gotta be a way
to do that, right?)

James.

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Re: [SLUG] disruptive technology wrt54g

[Ben Donohue]

well maybe some help to you might be...
www.simonzone.com
download guarddog - firewall
download guidedog - easy routing setup.
if you use them post back here to get help configuring them. they run on 
Redhat or Mandrake, etc.
Ben

Simon Males wrote:
In the last 10 minutes I have almost completly giving up on the idea 
of building my own router out of a Mini ITX system (in attempt to 
learn iptables), where I can save a bit of money and time go out and 
buy a the famous WRT54G, the thing is... it has a cousin for ~$50 more 
called WRT54GS

Which I understand is just a little bit quicker for 802.11g devices. 
If this device is linux device, that means that there IS 802.11g 
support for linux ?

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Re: [SLUG] Python recommendations, please.

[Mary Gardiner]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2004, Robert Collins wrote:
> As long as there is beer, I'm happy to attend some meetings :).

I found organising a talk each month a bit much work for relatively
little payoff (only 4 or so attendees on average) so I'm not interested
in organising it solo again.

There's still talk of hacksig on and off, I still intend to (help) get
that off the ground sometime soon. (However, I won't be in Australia for
much of the rest of the year...)

-Mary
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[SLUG] Calendar app for Zaurus 5500??

[Peter Chubb]

Hi, 

Are there any better calendar/Appointment apps for the Sharp
Sl5500 Zaurus Linux-based PDA than come with it?  I really miss
DateBk5 on my old now dead Handspring Visor (PalmOS).

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[SLUG] Re: Win4Lin or Wine?

[André Pang]

On 15/07/2004, at 5:03 PM, Howard Lowndes wrote:
I'm desparately trying not to run Windows, just Windows apps,
specifically MYOB, and even single user at that.  I don't want to take 
a
chance on the user seeing anything else that Windows has other than  
the
specific app.
If your application works in Windows 98, I highly recommend Win4Lin: 
I've used it to run plenty of Windows applications (such as MS Office 
two/three years ago, when wine and StarOffice were both pretty crap).  
It does require you to use a custom kernel, but they provide patches if 
you're one of the many people who compile their own kernel.  I can't 
speak for wine.

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Re: [SLUG] Python recommendations, please.

[Robert Collins]

On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 16:03, Mary Gardiner wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2004, Bill Bennett wrote:
> > Also, there's a Python interest group somewhere, isn't there?
> 
> We had one in Sydney in 2002-2003, but I haven't organised any meetings
> since then.

As long as there is beer, I'm happy to attend some meetings :).

Rob
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[SLUG] July DebSIG

[Craige McWhirter]

When: 
Wednesday, July 21, 7:00pm - 8:00pm 
Where: 
James Squire Brewery

This month, Andrew Cowie will be discussing what Debian developers can
learn from the successes of Gentoo. 

* Andrew just returned another one of his romps-around-the-world. This
one included LinuxTag in Germany and GUADEC in Norway, and so will also
share some of the views about Gentoo and Debian that he heard in
conversation with European hackers.

* Despite the topic, Andrew is //not// anti-Debian - he's been using it
for over 7 years. Rather, his aim is for the distributions, especially
the community ones, to learn from each other so that the Linux ecosystem
as a whole continues to thrive. A little co-operation, rather than
religious hysteria. What a thought!

* An article on the unusual aspects which set Gentoo apart (and are the
technical basis of Andrew's talk) will be appearing in a forthcoming
issue of Linux Journal.

Along with the usual free-form discussions / debates that will precede
and follow his talk, food, drink and internet access are available and
people generally start wandering in from 18:30 for a good 'ol chin wag.

More Info: http://debian.slug.org.au/
Maps: http://debian.slug.org.au/events/jsb.html

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Re: [SLUG] Wine & MYOB

[James Gregory]

On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 16:39 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> I went down the "install on Windows and copy across" path.
> 
> _Almost_ all of MYOB gets installed in its own directory, just a couple
> of ini files in the Windows dir., but it did need a Windows dll which I
> had to copy across as well.
> 
> Anyway I got it started with several repeats of an error message, but it
> still isn't fully there yet, so I guess I might have to fork out for
> win4lin.

Ok, can you give us a bit more info on this? What version of MYOB for
starters. Is WINE spitting out information on the terminal you're
starting it on? what info? What error are you seeing when it starts?
Does clicking through the error message correspond to info on the
terminal?

I think Andrew Cowie's suggestion of using crossover wine is worth
investigating. I believe they have a demo program available on their
website.

HTH,

James.

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Re: [SLUG] qustion about audacity.

[Malik Jayawardena]

Looks like it. Is it the case?

Bill Bennett wrote:

  Well, in that case cdparanoia -B should do it, shouldn't
it?

Regards,

Bill.

=+-> This looks like it's a CD-Audio track. Can you play it on a normal 
=+-> CD-Player?
=+-> You'll need to rip it into a WAV file and then load it into Audacity 
=+-> with something like 'grip'.
=+-> 
=+-> This would explain why you can't just copy it over.
=+-> 
=+-> -Mal

  



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Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin or Wine?

[Howard Lowndes]

On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 16:53, James Gregory wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 16:23 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-07-15 at 11:12, Del wrote:
> > > Howard Lowndes wrote:
> > > > The subject asks the question.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I like vmware but you need more ram.  I've had win4lin working OK
> > > though.  Horses for courses.
> > 
> > I find vmware pathetically slow.  Beside which you need full Windows
> 
> You'll need a copy of Windows for Win4Lin. It also doesn't do a full
> emulation like VMWare does. So while it's faster it also won't let you
> run anything newer than Windows 98 (I believe this is because of MMU
> stuff, but I don't actually know that much about this kinda thing so I'm
> likely telling you complete lies on that. Does anyone know more?

I'm desparately trying not to run Windows, just Windows apps,
specifically MYOB, and even single user at that.  I don't want to take a
chance on the user seeing anything else that Windows has other than  the
specific app.


> 
> You might want to look into qemu:
> 
> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
> 
> Which can run Windows 98 according to this page:
> 
> http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/ossupport.html
> 
> I've been tinkering with it over the last few weeks. I've not tried to
> install windows on it, but the claim that it's fast is justified. The
> really nice thing (to me) is that when the OS inside the virtual machine
> is idling, the host system isn't burning cycles emulating the idleness.
> I think that's awesome.
> 
> Win4Lin will be less setup time though. The installer worked first time
> for me the last time I tried it.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> James.
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