[SLUG] Red Hat Disks
Hi. I recently installed Red Hat 9 and am intending to burn my MS disks in unholy ritual. However the up2date feature of RHN requires me to download 434MB of source code to be current - this is just absurd over 56k. Do you know of a service where this disk can be purchased regularly in Aus? Also - why don't they have a feature whereby the source can be parsed into 'code only' format - devoid of comments (assuming Linux software guys are using comments) and long variable names (export/extern variables of course would remain consistent) which would undoubtedly shrink these update massively. Thanks for your guidance. Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
Im of the same opinion just throwing the towel in doesn't work. On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 16:39, Rod Butcher wrote: I treat issues like this as "solution engineering" - they are problems that need to be fixed, not just put aside and another way found to do the job... otherwise you end up with a pile of things that still don't work and a load of halfbaked kludgy work practices. Or to be specific, I can't change banks every six months. So, I'm still available to cooperate with any of you who want to get on StGeorge's case in an organized fashion. cheers Rod Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Kryten Cat: "Hey, I got it! We laser our way through!?" Kryten: "Ah, an excellent suggestion, Sir, with just two minor drawbacks. One, we don't have a power source for the lasers, and two, we don't have any lasers." - Cat and Kryten, White Hole ( Red Dwarf ) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
I treat issues like this as "solution engineering" - they are problems that need to be fixed, not just put aside and another way found to do the job... otherwise you end up with a pile of things that still don't work and a load of halfbaked kludgy work practices. Or to be specific, I can't change banks every six months. So, I'm still available to cooperate with any of you who want to get on StGeorge's case in an organized fashion. cheers Rod Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel Stuart Guthrie wrote: I hope the "just switch banks then" suggestion won't apepar in every thread though. I think it is useful and important to let banks and providors know that if they are not up to scratch, they will lose business. As such, I think mentioning the 'switch' alternative is more relevant is some of the posts. Also - certainly switching banks is, for many people 'really easy' and in the case of St George much easier than getting their poxy interface working. Stu On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 15:35, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? I have no idea who wouldn't, but I wouldn't call such a decision "really easy" as you did in your initial post. Alas, these considerations mean that the "latest way to use St George Internet banking with Linux" may be with us for some time. I hope the "just switch banks then" suggestion won't apepar in every thread though. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
> I hope the "just switch banks then" suggestion > won't apepar in every thread though. I think it is useful and important to let banks and providors know that if they are not up to scratch, they will lose business. As such, I think mentioning the 'switch' alternative is more relevant is some of the posts. Also - certainly switching banks is, for many people 'really easy' and in the case of St George much easier than getting their poxy interface working. Stu On Thu, 2005-01-13 at 15:35, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? > > I have no idea who wouldn't, but I wouldn't call such a decision "really > easy" as you did in your initial post. Alas, these considerations mean > that the "latest way to use St George Internet banking with Linux" may > be with us for some time. I hope the "just switch banks then" suggestion > won't apepar in every thread though. > > -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:27:10PM EST, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: > > IMHO. The solution to the whole St George banking debacle is really > > easy. > > > > Move to another bank. If they will not support modern operating > > systems and basic HTTP compatible web browsers then they do not > > deserve your business. > > The last discussion about this ended with someone pointing out that > anyone with mortgages or term deposits among other things would suffer a > *significant* financial penalty in switching banks: probably taking in > the order of decades to recoup the time lost fiddling around with > browsers (unless they value cross-browser compatibility very highly in > dollar terms). There is also the fact that not many banks offer particular cards. One of the reasons why I have an account with St George is due to wanting a Visa debit card. Luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: > But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? I have no idea who wouldn't, but I wouldn't call such a decision "really easy" as you did in your initial post. Alas, these considerations mean that the "latest way to use St George Internet banking with Linux" may be with us for some time. I hope the "just switch banks then" suggestion won't apepar in every thread though. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
> It's probably more realistic to say that all other things (interest > rates, exit fees, lending amounts) being equal, someone looking to do > business with a bank should avoid St George. But of course, who wouldn't weigh up the financial implications? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] libgd dependencies prob
I've tried to upgrade mrtg to a nwere built with an rpm, it wants libgd.so.2 # rpm -Uvh mrtg-2.10.5-1.i386.rpm error: failed dependencies: libgd.so.2 is needed by mrtg-2.10.5-1 I found an rpm for libgd.so.2, but, it complains as below: # rpm -Uvh gd-2.0.21-5.20.1.i686.rpm error: failed dependencies: libpng12.so.0 is needed by gd-2.0.21-5.20.1 libgd.so.1.8 is needed by gnuplot-3.7.1-17 libgd.so.1.8 is needed by mrtg-2.9.17-3 libgd.so.1.8 is needed by webalizer-2.01_10-1 libgd.so.1.8 is needed by glibc-utils-2.2.5-44.legacy.3 where should I go from here ? - leave the current mrtg ? - force install ? - go and have a cup of tea instead ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005, Stuart Guthrie wrote: > IMHO. The solution to the whole St George banking debacle is really > easy. > > Move to another bank. If they will not support modern operating > systems and basic HTTP compatible web browsers then they do not > deserve your business. The last discussion about this ended with someone pointing out that anyone with mortgages or term deposits among other things would suffer a *significant* financial penalty in switching banks: probably taking in the order of decades to recoup the time lost fiddling around with browsers (unless they value cross-browser compatibility very highly in dollar terms). It's probably more realistic to say that all other things (interest rates, exit fees, lending amounts) being equal, someone looking to do business with a bank should avoid St George. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
IMHO. The solution to the whole St George banking debacle is really easy. Move to another bank. If they will not support modern operating systems and basic HTTP compatible web browsers then they do not deserve your business. Today I was discussing setting up of a bank account and St George were first on the hit list for rejects. The other party is an OSX user, I use Linux. St George are useless. Vote with your feet. Just MHO. Eventually they will get the message I'm sure. Stuart On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 19:19, Linley Caetan wrote: > Martin wrote: > > > It works for me but very strangely. It is failing to consistently > > enable fields (like amount) and buttons (like 'pay now'). > > > > FF1.0/RH9/J1.5 > > > > Regards, > > Martin > > > > Mary Gardiner wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Jan 09, 2005, Ben Stanley wrote: > >> > >>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 > >>> > >>> (This is not the same string as I was using previously - but that one > >>> didn?t work either.) Perhaps there is another user agent string that I > >>> should be using? > >> > >> > >> > >> It varies for me. (Firefox 0.93 for Ubuntu Warty Warthog, Sun JDK > >> 1.4.2.) > >> > >> - Default UA: Always get stuck at the redirect page > >> - Moz for Windows: Always get stuck at the redirect page > >> - IE6 for WinXP: Can get to the login screen, will sometimes crash the > >>browser > >> - IE5 for Mac: Can get to the login screen, will sometimes crash the > >>browser > >> > >> > I now do Firefox with Ie6 for the redirect page. Then you must switch > to real UA for the login. > I use prefbar to make it easier. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How do I cange permissions for a mounted drive?
Steve Drinkald wrote: Hello, I am a newbie to Debian, so am very green. I have a partition on my HDD (FAT32) which I am sharing between Windows and Linux. I have mounted it in fstab with /dev/hda6 /mnt/common vfatrw, user The problem I have is that I cannot write to it. I need to be /root to write to this. How do I cange it to allow all users to read and write to it? When I look at permissions, it tells me the file owner and group are both "root" and only the owner can read/write/execute. Group and others can only read. I've searched online for help, but haven't found anything that helps. If there is anyone that can help me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Steve You need to add the uid and gid options (eg uid=steve,gid=users) to the part of the fstab where it says rw, user. See man mount for more info on what options are available for fat32 Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get shell script to supply password ?
This one time, at band camp, Rod Butcher wrote: >I need to get my shell script to login to something and then enter a >password at a prompt.. i.e. unattended operation. I can't get the script >to feed it the password, it always prompts me.. lets say userid=xx, >password=yy > >xyz login xx >>password : > >at this point I want the shell script to feed it the password yy > >I've tried | , < to no avail. Read the manpages. no dice. >pointers greatfully received The password is being read from a tty, not stdin, so you should use somethign like expect (if you like to whip yourself) or perhaps the Expect modules for perl or python may be more palatable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Grub Configuration
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >On 11 Jan, Lyle Chapman wrote: >> I have put in what I >> think are the right params in grub, but I get a parsing error. > >Personally, although grub is more powerful and flexible than lilo, I >think it suffers from a major, major flaw: after changing the grub >config file, there's no way to run grub to test whether that config >will work. You just have to cross your fingers and reboot and hope for >the best. Once the grub loader is installed you never have this problem, because grub configs are separate from the loader. If your config is hosed you can fix it at boot time by editing the kernel boot arguments, changing the initrd path, etc, etc. But sure, if you abort your installation before the boot loader has been written to disk, you're in a tricky situation. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] How do I cange permissions for a mounted drive?
Hello, I am a newbie to Debian, so am very green. I have a partition on my HDD (FAT32) which I am sharing between Windows and Linux. I have mounted it in fstab with /dev/hda6 /mnt/common vfatrw, user The problem I have is that I cannot write to it. I need to be /root to write to this. How do I cange it to allow all users to read and write to it? When I look at permissions, it tells me the file owner and group are both "root" and only the owner can read/write/execute. Group and others can only read. I've searched online for help, but haven't found anything that helps. If there is anyone that can help me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get shell script to supply password ?
At Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:21 +1100, Robert Thorsby wrote: > On 2005.01.12 22:33 Rod Butcher wrote: > > I need to get my shell script to login to something and then enter a > > password at a prompt.. i.e. unattended operation. I can't get the > > script to feed it the password, it always prompts me.. lets say > > userid=xx, password=yy > > xyz login xx > > >password : > > at this point I want the shell script to feed it the password yy > > I've tried | , < to no avail. Read the manpages. no dice. > Try: http://expect.nist.gov/ To expand on Robert's answer a little: Almost all "Password:" prompts are done by talking directly to the programs "controlling tty". The intention is precisely to bypass the normal shell pipeline mechanism and prompt the user, even though the input/output is doing something else. Now some programs (like gnupg) will also read the password from some arbitrary file descriptor when given a suitable command line option - you can use this to pass in the password from another program. In the general case, however, your program needs to setup a fake tty and run the program in that, so that it can catch the password prompt. The classic program for doing that is "expect" at the URL Robert gave you. These days, most other languages (eg perl, python) also have some sort of library for doing the same, usually called some variation on "expect" - so if you are more familiar with a particular language you might want to use its library. If you don't feel up to programming anything, the original expect has a "learning mode" where you can just do what you want (as a human) and it will watch and generate an expect script that will duplicate that - its pretty cool. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get shell script to supply password ?
If you can do the logging in part with ssh, then you can configure ssh not to require passwords by copying a key to the target machine. After doing that: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ben]$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ben]$ The details are in the documentation for ssh, but I think that you take the stuff in ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub from the machine you are logging in from and add it into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 in the machine you are logging in to. There may be some option you have to turn on to enable it - I can´t remember that much. You may also have to cause the keys to be generated. Ben. On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:33, Rod Butcher wrote: > I need to get my shell script to login to something and then enter a > password at a prompt.. i.e. unattended operation. I can't get the script > to feed it the password, it always prompts me.. lets say userid=xx, > password=yy > > xyz login xx > >password : > > at this point I want the shell script to feed it the password yy > > I've tried | , < to no avail. Read the manpages. no dice. > pointers greatfully received > thanks, Rod > --- > Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Grub Configuration
I keep a Knoppix CD around to aid in recovery from this kind of
disaster... It means you don´t have to use the inadequate tools in grub
to find the kernels.
Whats more, its got the man pages for grub on it (I don´t think its got
the info page though), so you can then just write the correct grub.conf
from within knoppix, save it and re-boot.
Your comment about it being nice having to test it still stands though.
Ben.
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 22:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 11 Jan, Lyle Chapman wrote:
> > I have put in what I
> > think are the right params in grub, but I get a parsing error.
>
> Personally, although grub is more powerful and flexible than lilo, I
> think it suffers from a major, major flaw: after changing the grub
> config file, there's no way to run grub to test whether that config
> will work. You just have to cross your fingers and reboot and hope for
> the best.
>
> At least running /sbin/lilo tells you instantly if you've got
> /etc/lilo.conf correct or not.
>
>
> And if you do happen to find yourself in the invidious position of
> having a hosed grub config (e.g. if you started installed SuSE 9.2 and
> then realised you'd forgotten to note down the pre-existing partition
> mount points, and abort the installation continuing with setting the
> partitions, only to discover that it hosed your existing grub boot
> config) - then even knowing that you have workable Linux kernels on an
> un touched partition somewhere, if you could just remember where they
> were - well, that's tough, since grub has insufficient built in
> commands to let you find them, since it has no equivalent of "ls" in
> its toolset. The closest you can come is test for the existence of a
> named file ("find") or use tab completion
>
> Oh, wait, wait, that's how you do an ls: you remember the string
> "root (" and "kernel /" and you can work your way through the
> filesystems. A little harder to remember than a command with a name
> (like "ls" or "find"), but what can you expect from people who prefer
> GNU "info" to Unix man pages?
>
>
> luke
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Re: [SLUG] GPG Keysigning
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 10:02 +0100, Christoph Probst wrote: > I'll be in Sydney on the 25th/26th this month and I'm looking > for people who are interested in exchanging GPG keys. It's a pity you won;t be here on the 28th, that's when this months meeting is on. -- Craige McWhirter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> McWhirter [consulting] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get shell script to supply password ?
On 2005.01.12 22:33 Rod Butcher wrote: I need to get my shell script to login to something and then enter a password at a prompt.. i.e. unattended operation. I can't get the script to feed it the password, it always prompts me.. lets say userid=xx, password=yy xyz login xx >password : at this point I want the shell script to feed it the password yy I've tried | , < to no avail. Read the manpages. no dice. Try: http://expect.nist.gov/ Robert Thorsby -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] how to get shell script to supply password ?
I need to get my shell script to login to something and then enter a password at a prompt.. i.e. unattended operation. I can't get the script to feed it the password, it always prompts me.. lets say userid=xx, password=yy xyz login xx >password : at this point I want the shell script to feed it the password yy I've tried | , < to no avail. Read the manpages. no dice. pointers greatfully received thanks, Rod --- Brought to you by a thunderbird, penguin, gnu and a camel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Grub Configuration
On 11 Jan, Lyle Chapman wrote:
> I have put in what I
> think are the right params in grub, but I get a parsing error.
Personally, although grub is more powerful and flexible than lilo, I
think it suffers from a major, major flaw: after changing the grub
config file, there's no way to run grub to test whether that config
will work. You just have to cross your fingers and reboot and hope for
the best.
At least running /sbin/lilo tells you instantly if you've got
/etc/lilo.conf correct or not.
And if you do happen to find yourself in the invidious position of
having a hosed grub config (e.g. if you started installed SuSE 9.2 and
then realised you'd forgotten to note down the pre-existing partition
mount points, and abort the installation continuing with setting the
partitions, only to discover that it hosed your existing grub boot
config) - then even knowing that you have workable Linux kernels on an
un touched partition somewhere, if you could just remember where they
were - well, that's tough, since grub has insufficient built in
commands to let you find them, since it has no equivalent of "ls" in
its toolset. The closest you can come is test for the existence of a
named file ("find") or use tab completion
Oh, wait, wait, that's how you do an ls: you remember the string
"root (" and "kernel /" and you can work your way through the
filesystems. A little harder to remember than a command with a name
(like "ls" or "find"), but what can you expect from people who prefer
GNU "info" to Unix man pages?
luke
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[SLUG] An odd lpd printing problem solved
An odd problem with our printing started today - the printer wouldn't. We were getting error messages like: $ lpq Get_local_host: hostname '-f' bad $ lpr test Get_local_host: hostname '-f' bad It took me a while to realise that somehow the hostname had changed to "-f", and this took out the whole printing system. The hostname was correct after the system had been booting, according to /var/log/messages, so I assume that at some stage I must have typed "hostname -f" as root! I have no recollection of doing so, though. luke -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
H. Loeung wrote: Adding "?bhjs=0" to the redirect URL always works for me. E.g: https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/redirect.asp?bhjs=0 Haw. Well done! I've bookmarked it already. How did you discover this neat work around? It seems so simple. Why can't the people at St George get the thing going on their site? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] BT: Mail Delivery (failure recruitment@office.casema.nl)
Geachte heer/mevrouw, Hartelijk dank voor uw sollicitatie naar een functie binnen NV Casema.Wij hebben deze in goede orde ontvangen. Vooralsnog kunnen wij u slechts berichten dat uw sollicitatie door ons in behandeling is genomen.Zodra er meer bekend is over de stand van zaken omtrent uw sollicitatie ontvangt u zo spoedig mogelijk nader bericht van ons. Wij vertrouwen erop u hiermee voldoende te hebben geïnformeerd. Met vriendelijke groet, N.V. CASEMA HR Administration This e-mail message and its attachments are subject to the disclaimer published at the following website of Casema: http://www.casema.nl/disclaimer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] exim4 deb pkg not creating conf dirs
Rocci wrote: Hey sluggers, Can someone please tell me how to fix up a stuffed up debian package situation ? I'm trying to install exim4-daemon-heavy on a Sarge version of Debian but apt-get install exim4-daemon-heavy is not creating all the directory paths. Eg. /etc/exim4...with related contents in it. The exim binary is installed etc..but much other important stuff seems to get sucked into some black hole on my drive. I've removed previous version of exim using apt-get remove. Then tried repeatedly to install exim4 without complete success. Tried dpkg-reconfigure after the install but this doesn't help either. Any ideas clues would be appreciated. - Rocci. could you please use this apt-get remove --purge exim and then install it again beware you have to install you remove with ,you will se in front of you what pakg will it remove Thanks signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] GPG Keysigning
Hi everyone, I'll be in Sydney on the 25th/26th this month and I'm looking for people who are interested in exchanging GPG keys. My keys are 9978AF86 and 2A623F72. If you are interested please text/call me on 0400946389 or email me (I'm not on this list.) Cheers, Chris -- Keks: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow. Kontakt-Details: http://www.christoph-probst.com/kontakt/ PGP-FP: B171 7EA4 988C DD90 1601 D21C 5279 2FAF 9978 AF86 pgpI9z2jqAST1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George Internet Banking
Martin wrote: It works for me but very strangely. It is failing to consistently enable fields (like amount) and buttons (like 'pay now'). FF1.0/RH9/J1.5 Regards, Martin Mary Gardiner wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005, Ben Stanley wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 (This is not the same string as I was using previously - but that one didn?t work either.) Perhaps there is another user agent string that I should be using? It varies for me. (Firefox 0.93 for Ubuntu Warty Warthog, Sun JDK 1.4.2.) - Default UA: Always get stuck at the redirect page - Moz for Windows: Always get stuck at the redirect page - IE6 for WinXP: Can get to the login screen, will sometimes crash the browser - IE5 for Mac: Can get to the login screen, will sometimes crash the browser I now do Firefox with Ie6 for the redirect page. Then you must switch to real UA for the login. I use prefbar to make it easier. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
