[SLUG] Offer for SLUG members
Greetings, Please direct all queries to Jacinta about this. :) - Forwarded message from Jacinta Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Learn (more) about mod_perl === Stas Bekman, author of Practical mod_perl and mod_perl developer, has organised with Perl Training Australia to run 2 mod_perl courses for general enrollment during his trip to Australi in June. If you (or your workmates) have been wondering about what mod_perl is, or if you're a user of mod_perl and want to know more about mod_perl 2.0 then you might be interested in one or both of these courses. *Getting started with mod_perl* covers mod_perl basics including why mod_perl is so popular, how you can use it to speed up your CGI programs and lots more. *mod_perl 2.0, the next generation* covers the improvements mod_perl 2.0 brings over the 1.xx generation. This includes further performance gains and memory-sharing improvements. Further information can be found on our website: http://perltraining.com.au/ Course Date Cost Getting started with mod_perl 13th June 2005 $630 mod_perl 2.0, the next generation 14th June 2005 $630 *** Course places must be booked by 29th April 2005 *** To book on these courses visit: http://perltraining.com.au/bookings/Sydney.html The above table includes our user group discount of $30 per person. To gain this discount you must mention SLUG as your referrer when booking on the course. Other Perl courses == Perl Training Australia is running the following courses over the next few months which might be of interest. CourseDate Cost --- Database Programming with Perl: 9th June $630 Perl Security: 10th June $630 Object Oriented Perl: 21-22nd July$1050 Once again, please mention SLUG to obtain your discount(s) All the best, Jacinta -- (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia| (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001| _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | - End forwarded message - Cheers, Chris. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
I used Optus cable, never had any issues with it. I don't connect my machine directly, I go via a little box that is a dhcp client to optus and a dhcp server to my lan. I have no reason to think it doesn't work directly though. Support is fine. Extremely few dropouts. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Connecting to a CheckPoint FW-1
Anyone here connects to a data centre managed by Hostworks ... which runs CheckPoint FW-1 ? The CheckPoint SecureClient software for RedHat only works with RH 7.3. The only way I could connect to our network at the Optus data centre managed by Hostworks is by running RH 7.3 as a guest OS on qemu, with the host OS as Fedora Core 3 ( or FC1 and FC2 in the past ), and then install CheckPoint SecureClient on the guest OS ( RH 7.3 ). Specify the IP of the firewall, then specify username and password. Works OK, but I cannot directly connect to the VPN from within the host OS. Thus, if I want to ssh to any of our SPARC or Dell boxes, I have to ssh first to the guest OS, and then ssh again to the intended host within the VPN. Pain ... but no other option. I had peeked at ipsec-tools and openswan, but they all seem to be site-to-site interop with CheckPoint instead of client-to-server interop with CheckPoint FW-1. Anyone with a better setup / interop than me ? Regards, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dealing with compromised machine ?
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:28:47AM +1000, O Plameras wrote: And probably, as bad if not worst, your security procedures inside your Intranet is failing. Latest statistics indicate that about 50 percent of security breaches are perpetrated from inside the Intranet and still counting. [snip] Check this site and give your intranet and internet security the super-boost, if you are not already: http://web.mit.edu/kerberos/www/ http://www.openafs.org/ Interesting - sounds like you know your stuff. Would you be willing to give a talk on either of these? While I've come across them, I never had time to investigate what they are about. Cheers, Anand -- `When any government, or any church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know, the end result is tyranny and oppression no matter how holy the motives' -- Robert A Heinlein, If this goes on -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, john gibbons wrote: I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Are you talking about Cable or ADSL? The subject is about cable, the stuff you get the TV through. I am aware that they can actually provide telephone over the cable though. I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. It will only talk to the first MAC address it sees. I spent half an hour figuring that out. (Same for i-burst ethernet). -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG President, AUUG and Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, Tenpin Bowler, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Some people actually read these things it seems. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:08:43PM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote: I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. Yup. And it _has_ to be the plug - the reset/stanby button won't do it. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Speaking of wireless...
Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing: Interesting article; http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111-page1.php Extract; Millions of wireless access points are spread across the US and the world. About 70% percent of these access points are unprotected?wide open to access by anyone who happens to drive by. The other 30% are protected by WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy) and a small handful are protected by the new WPA (Wi-Fi Protected Access) standard. Yep I will vouch for that. Last night I was on a 1/2hr train ride with my lappy open, and came across hundreds of APs, over half of them open. It's quite fun to just sit and watch them roll by the screen as the train goes past. BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Yes, cable. I am in a 2 story house and they put a cable into my upstairs room. A telstra phone line was downstairs with extensions upstairs. So I did not need another phone. However, a phone came with it and when I queried the need for for it they told me it was a necessary part of the installation anyway. That added $20 to the advertised monthly cost of the service. Maybe I was gullible. Anyway, when I rang and queried the whole deal 18 months later (slow of me, I know) I was told the handset could go but I still had to have the line because it serviced the modem and would have to continue to pay $10 per month for that. This means that the advertised monthly cost of the broadband service was shonky and it was dearer than people were being told. That got up my nose so I recently changed over to Unwired. Saves money, is an excellent service and I can take the modem elsewhere where reception exists and use it with my laptop. I fool around with 3 computers, all running Windows alongside Linux and the Unwired service is a trouble free installation even a beginner can understand. A router means all 3 computers share the modem without cable swapping which I was doing with Optus gear.So I am in front. I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Maybe the pricing is more transparent now - I hope so. John. Grant Parnell wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, john gibbons wrote: I can give you some feedback. I was with Optus cable broadband for 2 years and just recently discontinued to transfer to Unwired. Glad I did. An excellent service and cheaper. Just for fun I have run Fedora 3 and other distros on Optus but also experienced a lot of headaches at times getting some of them configured. I never succeeded with some. Fedora 3, Red Hat 9 and Mandrake 10 gave no trouble with Mandrake and Red Hat actually connecting themselves up with virtually no help from me. I am still a beginner with Linux and am not a text man - quite confined to GUI clicking. So you can believe me when I say something is easy to set up. BUT - and here is my gripe with Optus Broadband. It is advertised at one basic fee for 1 gig but they do not mention the compulsory rent for the telephone line they put in and, in my case, a spare telephone I did not want. So it actually cost $20 per over the quoted fee. But maybe you will not get caught as I did. Are you talking about Cable or ADSL? The subject is about cable, the stuff you get the TV through. I am aware that they can actually provide telephone over the cable though. I've got a customer that's got 2 optus cable links at different sites, neither of them are a problem. The trick is if you switch ethernet cards or plug it into a different machine pull the plug on the cable modem to reset it. It will only talk to the first MAC address it sees. I spent half an hour figuring that out. (Same for i-burst ethernet). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:00:15PM +1200, John Gibbons wrote: Anyway, when I rang and queried the whole deal 18 months later (slow of me, I know) I was told the handset could go but I still had to have the line because it serviced the modem and would have to continue to pay $10 per month for that. Que? Geez, their helldesk people really haven't been touched by the cluestick. As far as I was aware, the $10 was a discount that you got for having both services. Back when they started charging for it, the line by itself was $20 per month. Having just cable internet was ~$60 (I can't remember what I was actually paying back then). If you had them together, then it was only $70 all up. I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Ah well, I've never had a problem with them, other than that nasty thing they did by capping their unlimited plans. Still with them after three and a half years... Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RHEL 3 ? hardware req ?
quote who=Mike MacCana Voytek wrote: RHEL 3 support will be available till 2010. RHEL 3 also currently has more applications certified for it then RHEL 4 does, but that depends on what apps you use - if you're setting up network infrastructure etc. then I'd go for RHEL 4. It also has other Mike, thanks, nope, it's just for AMP .. or it PAM? MPA ? web and mail server thing what are realistic hardware/RAM requirements for EL ? in the past, I've tried to install on a system with 256MB, and, the installer told me I was short of RAM, and, wouldn't proceed The machine didn't have integarted video did it? RHEL 3 wants 256 MB or RAM for use by the system - if the video card takes 8 of that, you'll get a warning. not sure, but, yes, 1 or 2 MB got taken by something else, and, the system was just a little shy of 'full' 256 if I recall, I was able to ignore, but, not able to succeed. so, to run a web/sql/mail server with RHEL : 1GHz CPU and 1GB RAM should be enough ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] UNSW Compsoc Installfest
(x-posted to slug-chat) Howdy, I'm the organiser of the UNSW Computing Society Installfest that is held usually twice a year. The first Installfest for this year is being held this Saturday at UNSW. We generally install Debian/Fedora/Mandrake and this year we're looking at doing some Ubuntu installs too. In the past, SLUG folks have come down to lend a hand (thanks!) so I'm hoping some of you might be able to volunteer your Saturday for a Good Cause. Details are: This Saturday, April 9 10:30 - 4:30 at UNSW Oboe lab. I'll try to put some signs up, but otherwise, it's the building next to the gigantic sphere at the top of the University Walk. For those of you who have been before, it's the same lab as always. :) If you're interested, reply to me via email to tell me you're coming - I'll also answer any queries thru' email. Cheers, Phoebe -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] UNSW Compsoc Installfest
ah, i guess i can try to drag my self away from work for a bit to help out On Apr 6, 2005 9:28 PM, Phoebe Goh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (x-posted to slug-chat) Howdy, I'm the organiser of the UNSW Computing Society Installfest that is held usually twice a year. The first Installfest for this year is being held this Saturday at UNSW. We generally install Debian/Fedora/Mandrake and this year we're looking at doing some Ubuntu installs too. In the past, SLUG folks have come down to lend a hand (thanks!) so I'm hoping some of you might be able to volunteer your Saturday for a Good Cause. Details are: This Saturday, April 9 10:30 - 4:30 at UNSW Oboe lab. I'll try to put some signs up, but otherwise, it's the building next to the gigantic sphere at the top of the University Walk. For those of you who have been before, it's the same lab as always. :) If you're interested, reply to me via email to tell me you're coming - I'll also answer any queries thru' email. Cheers, Phoebe -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Menno Schaaf aka ginji irc.austnet.org #gentoo #linux-help irc.ifirc.net #linux -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] argh! printer not workiong on ubuntu :(
sigh of course - five minutes after having sent this (throwing my hands up in disgust) I removed it, reinstalled it and now it works :P oh well... murphy's law is still firmly in operation ;) Still, I'm not complaining too loudly! :) Cheers, Taryn * Taryn East [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: ok, I've had enough - I really want my printer working and I just can't seem ot get it to. :( I run ubuntu (hoary) and it seems to detect it's there just fine, but it keeps telling me parallel port busy will try again - of course it's a USB printer and I keep changing it to either use detected printer or even USB port #1 (after checking that it actually is a) plugged into said port and b) turned on). it still won't actually print me up a test page this is really annoying as it was working fine when I had it on Warty. :( is anyone able to help me figure out what's going wrong here? :( Thanks in advance, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] UNSW Compsoc Installfest
On 6 Apr 2005, at 21:28, Phoebe Goh wrote: In the past, SLUG folks have come down to lend a hand (thanks!) so I'm hoping some of you might be able to volunteer your Saturday for a Good Cause. Will compsoc be providing the traditional pizza for the volunteers? :P -s -- Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] argh! printer not workiong on ubuntu :(
ok, striek that... it prints the test page just fine, but when I try to actually print a pdf it just prints, well, you coudl say it prints with invisible ink... though there's a lot of printing going on for a completely blank page :P Anyone have any idea what might be going on? Cheers, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dealing with compromised machine ?
These suggestions are for next time, I suspect it is too late to take any of these on board in this particular situation. On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 08:16:14AM +1000, Voytek wrote: I have a compromised RH73 machine, until such time as I can pull it down, what can I do to identify and shut down any rogue processes/backdoors ? First thing I would suggest is some network dumping. Consider either ethereal or tcpdump, get an old, dumb hub and drop it into the ethernet connection to that machine, be quick so it doesn't lose connectivity for more than a few seconds. Then put a temporary machine on the same hub, bring up an interface (but give that interface no IP number) and start dumping to hard drive. Don't use a switch! Old 10Meg ethernet hubs are best but you can still get 100Meg hubs if you search. Save those dumps for when you talk to the police (of course you are going to do the right thing and report this) they will find the dumps very useful. Hopefully whoever broke in will make some contact with the broken box and might reveal something about themselves. NB: at this stage you do NOT want to do anything abnormal that might make it clear that you are paying great attention to this machine. The sniffer machine can be completely self contained with no contact to the outside world other than silently sniffing. Don't even think about trying to sniff on the same machine that is broken. I've removed all the baddies, but, I expect there will be some open ports ? is there a way to shut them in the interim period till I can get to the machine ? There is a big problem with leaving a compromised machine active and also removing stuff while it is live. It is a much more dangerous thing than just leaving the compromised machine alone. Whoever has broken your machine has (approximately) the following priorities: [1] Remain undetected [2] Keep the machine active and stable [3] Collect information [4] Use the machine to break other machines Once they know they have been detected the above priorities go out the window and they really only have one thing that matters anymore which is destroying evidence and cleaning up their tracks as much as possible. By poking around and removing this and that you are spelling it out to whoever is on the other end of the line that they should think about filling your partitions with random numbers. So you sort of have to operate in two distinct modes... BEFORE you let them know they have been detected you are trying to watch from the sidelines and make notes... when you decide that enough is enough, then you have to pull the network plug clean, type sync a few times and just turn it off. There's no half-way. After you do turn it off, boot off a CDROM and take a full hard drive image which the police will also find useful. The rootkits are quite often customised and may contain links to websites, other compromised machines and bits of forensic evidence that might make it to court. Some people leave bash history behind, others leave temporary files and all sorts of stuff. They spend all day filtering through this junk putting clues together, often from multiple sites. You are paying for this, might as well keep them busy and get something for your money. By the way, in NSW the investigation of computer related crimes is the job of the fraud squad, see http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/ - Tel ( http://bespoke.homelinux.net/ ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD I can mount OK an USB RAM with: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd when I try the same with a 40GB IDE/USB HD, I get: # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd /dev/sda1: Input/output error mount: you must specify the filesystem type # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t auto /dev/sda1: Input/output error mount: you must specify the filesystem type # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t fat mount: fs type fat not supported by kernel # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t vfat mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, or too many mounted file systems # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t mdos mount: fs type mdos not supported by kernel # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t msdos mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, or too many mounted file systems what do I need ? even though the drive is 'IDE' the interface is /dev/sd??, yes ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Voytek wrote: I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD I can mount OK an USB RAM with: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd when I try the same with a 40GB IDE/USB HD, I get: # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd /dev/sda1: Input/output error mount: you must specify the filesystem type # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -t vfat mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, or too many mounted file systems Put the options before the files. This goes for pretty much any unix/linux command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
Ive been searching through my system logs and found what appears to be hacking attempts through apache. Unfortunately I am pretty green when it comes to this sort of thing. So, Im sure I have what would seem to be very basic questions to some. I do have system logs, ip addresses, and times so if it is warranted, the cops will be notified Can somebody tell me what the hacker is doing here: GET /default.ida?X(lots of Xs)X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - and similarly SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - These appear to be the two types of attempts How do I know if my system has been compromised? (apart from logs obviously and changes to files) What do the end messages mean ie u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - or 414 341 - - or 400 300 - - Regards, Phill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
What is AFAIR Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then As Gottfried said, on Linux it doesn't work, but on IIS it causes a buffer overflow which then allows uncontrolled access for the exploit - or something like that - I don't pay btoo much attention to Microsoft type problems. Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. begin:vcard fn:Howard Lowndes n:Lowndes;Howard org:LANNet Computing Associates adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name tel;work:02 6040 0222 tel;fax:02 6040 0222 tel;cell:0419 464 430 note:I am heartily sick and tired of telemarketers, therefore I do not answer phone calls which do not present Caller Line Identification, they get flicked to voicemail. I apologise if this inconveniences you, and I respect your right to not identify yourself, but I also ask that you respect my right to not answer your call if you choose not to identify yourself. Try dialing 1832 (#32# from mobiles) before the number, to present Caller Line Identification. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.lannet.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Voytek wrote: I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD Put the options before the files. This goes for pretty much any unix/linux command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd already tried, returns same errors whatever 't' option I've tried what 't' option for an unformatted HD ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
Hi, Surely if it's unformatted you don't want to mount it? Perhaps you want to make a filesystem on it using mkreiserfs or similar , passing /dev/sda as the drive to format... IIRC sda1 is the first partition on the sda device, and wont work if theres no partitions (i.e. unformatted). Rob. On Apr 7, 2005 8:17 AM, Voytek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Voytek wrote: I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD Put the options before the files. This goes for pretty much any unix/linux command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd already tried, returns same errors whatever 't' option I've tried what 't' option for an unformatted HD ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Rob Sharp -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Python Interest Group
Dear list, Is pig.slug doing anything? If not, is there any other python group having meetings? -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon NSW Australia 2074 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au begin:vcard fn:Richard Hayes n:Hayes;Richard org:Nada Marketing adr:;;PO Box 12;Gordon;NSW;2072;Australia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Director tel;work:+(61-2) 9412 4367 tel;fax:+(61-2) 9412 4920 tel;cell:+(61) 0414 618 425 url:http://www.nada.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 5/04/2005 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
OK. I did a bit of reading on the subject. Linux can be vulnerable to buffer overrun attacks can't it? If not, why not? Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 7:30 AM To: Phill Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then As Gottfried said, on Linux it doesn't work, but on IIS it causes a buffer overflow which then allows uncontrolled access for the exploit - or something like that - I don't pay btoo much attention to Microsoft type problems. Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
Thanks Martin!! Very helpful Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Visser, Martin Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 9:19 AM Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: RE: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Unfortunately a buffer-overflow is not only a Microsoft problem. In simple terms, it occurs where an attacker is able to exploit a programming flaw that allows a program to accept more data then it is really designed for. Most programs that accept input from the network (or other input device) will prepare a buffer, some memory space, to accept that input. If the program is written correctly it should validate the input or use other some mechnanism to ensure the input does not exceed the size of the allocated buffer. However, in certain program architectures, data that is accepted which is more than the buffer can handle could overwrite existing program data. If this excess data is craftily designed, the program can be tricked to then execute this excess data (which is now not just data, but now part of the compromised programs instructions) and will run with the priveleges of the exploited program. The excess data is a small chunk of compiled code specifically designed to run on the target platform - it is usually caused by inserting a jump in the normal code instructions. In the Code Red example below the attacker is sending a GET request to a web server. In a vulnerable IIS web server, the URL specified in the request is much larger than it expected. This data ends up in the web servers running program space, and is executed by the target system. The Code Red worm can then do it's job to continue to seek and replicate itself. Code Red of course only can affect unpatched vulnerable IIS servers. Of course, there have been plenty of buffer overflows identified in Linux based applications, Microsoft-based systems are just a bigger (and presumably more lucrative) target. Most program development projects actively check their code for the possibility of buffer-overflows - hopefully they find the holes before potential attackers do. There is also work being done on various hardware and software architectures that limit the ability of unauthorised code to execute on a platform. For the average user, provided you limit your internet facing profile using a firewall configured to only let necessary traffic in , and are vigilant in patching your systems, you are as safe as you can be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Lowndes Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 7:30 AM To: Phill Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then As Gottfried said, on Linux it doesn't work, but on IIS it causes a buffer overflow which then allows uncontrolled access for the exploit - or something like that - I don't pay btoo much attention to Microsoft type problems. Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801 %u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 08:17 am, Voytek wrote: quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Voytek wrote: I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD Put the options before the files. This goes for pretty much any unix/linux command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd already tried, returns same errors whatever 't' option I've tried what 't' option for an unformatted HD ? You can't mount an unformatted file system. First, make sure the disk is partitioned. Below is my lappy - it has 3 partitions, 2 reiserfs, 1 swap. Your USB drive will be different, but this shows you the sort of output a partitioned drive has: (either sudo or su to root then fdisk) $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10056130560 bytes 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19485 cylinders Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 15604 7864384+ 83 Linux /dev/hda2 15605 16125 262584 82 Linux swap /dev/hda3 16126 19485 1693440 83 Linux /dev/hda4 1 1 395+ 0 Empty Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. If your /dev/sda is NOT partitioned, then partition it first with parted/fdisk/gui-based-whatever. man fdisk, man parted etc. Once you've got it partitioned, format the partition(s) with whatever you like. FAT32 is evil but it will work on anything, reiserfs/ext3 aren't particaularly great (performance-wise) over slow links like USB1, but are fine on FireWire/IEE1394/iLink and USB2. Once you've formatted the drive, mount it: mount -t fstype /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd fstype = vfat/reiserfs/ext2/etc3/xfs etc. HTH James -- Captain Penny's Law: You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you Can't Fool Mom. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
BTW you can have finding the known vulnerabilities in your favourite software from various sites - eg http://secunia.com/search/?search=apache+buffer+overflow -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phill Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 9:32 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: FW: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Thanks Martin!! Very helpful Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Visser, Martin Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 9:19 AM Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: RE: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Unfortunately a buffer-overflow is not only a Microsoft problem. In simple terms, it occurs where an attacker is able to exploit a programming flaw that allows a program to accept more data then it is really designed for. Most programs that accept input from the network (or other input device) will prepare a buffer, some memory space, to accept that input. If the program is written correctly it should validate the input or use other some mechnanism to ensure the input does not exceed the size of the allocated buffer. However, in certain program architectures, data that is accepted which is more than the buffer can handle could overwrite existing program data. If this excess data is craftily designed, the program can be tricked to then execute this excess data (which is now not just data, but now part of the compromised programs instructions) and will run with the priveleges of the exploited program. The excess data is a small chunk of compiled code specifically designed to run on the target platform - it is usually caused by inserting a jump in the normal code instructions. In the Code Red example below the attacker is sending a GET request to a web server. In a vulnerable IIS web server, the URL specified in the request is much larger than it expected. This data ends up in the web servers running program space, and is executed by the target system. The Code Red worm can then do it's job to continue to seek and replicate itself. Code Red of course only can affect unpatched vulnerable IIS servers. Of course, there have been plenty of buffer overflows identified in Linux based applications, Microsoft-based systems are just a bigger (and presumably more lucrative) target. Most program development projects actively check their code for the possibility of buffer-overflows - hopefully they find the holes before potential attackers do. There is also work being done on various hardware and software architectures that limit the ability of unauthorised code to execute on a platform. For the average user, provided you limit your internet facing profile using a firewall configured to only let necessary traffic in , and are vigilant in patching your systems, you are as safe as you can be. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Lowndes Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 7:30 AM To: Phill Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then As Gottfried said, on Linux it doesn't work, but on IIS it causes a buffer overflow which then allows uncontrolled access for the exploit - or something like that - I don't pay btoo much attention to Microsoft type problems. Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801 %u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:
[SLUG] Ubuntu launches into command line only
running Ubuntu warty in i386 after some recent updates using apt (for alsa related items) Ubuntu reboots in CLI mode , no graphic login screen. Launching X from CLI gives a grey screen with X cursor and nothing else. There is no way to proceed except restarting the machine. -- Linley Caetan www.lovelsretreat.com Phone: 95211226 Mobile: 0409 831 404 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
My bad. Of course Linux apps can be just as badly written as M$ apps and can have buffer overflows. What I should have said is that this attempt at a buffer over flow does not affect Apache. Phill wrote: OK. I did a bit of reading on the subject. Linux can be vulnerable to buffer overrun attacks can't it? If not, why not? Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 7:30 AM To: Phill Cc: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then As Gottfried said, on Linux it doesn't work, but on IIS it causes a buffer overflow which then allows uncontrolled access for the exploit - or something like that - I don't pay btoo much attention to Microsoft type problems. Regards, Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gottfried Szing Sent: Thursday, 7 April 2005 1:39 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt hi GET /default.ida?X...(lots of X's)...X %u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u9090%u6858%ucbd3%u7801%u 9090%u9090%u8190%u00c3%u0003%u8b00%u531b%u53ff%u0078%u%u00=a HTTP/1.0 404 300 - - isn't that the code red worm? still in the wild? SEARCH /\x90\x02\xb1\.. (x02\xb1\ repeats hundreds of times) .\ x02\xb1\x90\...(repeats hundreds of times)...\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90\x90 414 341 - - AFAIR this is an request that uses an exploit of the IIS and webdav component (unchecked buffer). but as long as you don't have IIS and windows running, nothing to fear about. both attacks works with IIS only and can be ignored on apache. they are just annoying (messing up the logs) but they cannot compromise the system. cu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. begin:vcard fn:Howard Lowndes n:Lowndes;Howard org:LANNet Computing Associates adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name tel;work:02 6040 0222 tel;fax:02 6040 0222 tel;cell:0419 464 430 note:I am heartily sick and tired of telemarketers, therefore I do not answer phone calls which do not present Caller Line Identification, they get flicked to voicemail. I apologise if this inconveniences you, and I respect your right to not identify yourself, but I also ask that you respect my right to not answer your call if you choose not to identify yourself. Try dialing 1832 (#32# from mobiles) before the number, to present Caller Line Identification. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.lannet.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Virtual hosting with VMWare
On Apr 6, 2005 11:29 AM, Rowling, Jill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that! I see VMWare company is now part of EMC. Since I suspect we are going to be using an EMC SAN system, I think that will be OK. VMWare ESX seems to only support up to RHEL3 as a guest OS. By that I mean officially support, in practice all sorts of things would probably work. Yeah EMC owns VMWare (it surprised me too). I never really took much notice. Only realised after I started with EMC that we had purchased them sometime before I started. In any case, our Sydney Lab uses several Dell servers running VMWare ESX to run several virtual machines for lab testing and stuff. Works great. I've been a big fan of VMWare from the earlier days, since it just worked so well. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: USB HD mounting ?
Hi quote who=[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 11:34:13PM +1000, Voytek wrote: I'm trying to mount USB IDE HD Put the options before the files. This goes for pretty much any unix/linux command: mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbhd already tried, returns same errors whatever 't' option I've tried what 't' option for an unformatted HD ? You don't give any meat re the problem: 1) Did you modprobe usb-storage 2) Are you using subfs which stops you mounting like this, instead gives something like /media/usb/longsillyname automatically In general if mount asks for the type, you've already lost, it's not going to work. James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Python Interest Group
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Hayes wrote: Dear list, Is pig.slug doing anything? No. It hasn't met since early 2003 afaik. I updated http://pig.slug.org.au/ to that effect a few months ago, and now I've put it in red, since people missed it :) If not, is there any other python group having meetings? Alan Green is organising Sydney Python Meetups through meetup.com: http://python.meetup.com/96/events/ . If you're not willing to sign up through the meetup.com site, the python-au list is probably the best way to hear about them: http://starship.python.net/mailman/listinfo/python-au If anyone wants to take over the organisation of the PIG let me know, although the best way to do it would probably be just to hold meetings with the Meetup people. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] The NT1 PlusII modem
Dear Sydney Linux Users Group, Attached are two files. One is an OO file detailing how to get the NT1 PlusII modem running under Mandrake 10.1 and SuSE 9, 9.1 and 9.2. There is also a second file called kppp which is critical to the setup for SuSE 9.1 and 9.2 Have a look at itI assure you, this all works because I have done it, and I use the NT1 routinely as my internet connection. SuSE is incredible with the problems...but I like SuSE as a distro..hence my determination to make it work. Hope it is of use. I'd appreciate a reply indicating you got this email and whether you can use it. Regards Tony Young -- Dr Tony Young 100 Langton Road Blackbutt Qld 4306 Australia ph (07) 4163 0395 fax as above To mess up a Linux PC, you need to work at it; To mess up your Windows PC, you just need to work on it. Scott Granneman plugin passwordfd.so Kppp.sxw Description: OpenOffice Writer document -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:48:48AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
My bad. Of course Linux apps can be just as badly written as M$ apps
and can have buffer overflows.
What I should have said is that this attempt at a buffer over flow does
not affect Apache.
Whilst Linux apps can be badly written, there are a few reasons why
Microsoft apps tend to be worse. Consider that most of the people who
program for Linux have also tried working with Microsoft products and
they chose Linux because they wanted to do things the right way. This
has a filtering effect that pulls the strongest programmers away from
MS and toward either Linux or one of the *BSD variations. People who
care about money first and producing a good product second will tend
to go to the Microsoft camp, people who think that a good product
should be first priority and then look at money as a secondary
consideration usually gravitate in a free-software direction. Its
a difference of emphasis rather than a completely different approach
but it does make a difference.
Then there are the Microsoft customers who have not (until recently)
been willing to get nasty about software quality. With market forces
at work, if there is no demand for high security, high quality software
there will also be no supply. When Microsoft had a total monopoly
they just didn't have to care one way or the other... now that their
monopoly is weakening and some customers are getting aggressive they
are forced to care so they are making more of an effort.
As a practical example to all those C programmers out there, this is
the common idiom (since early KR days):
int myfunc( char *stuff )
{
char buf[ 100 ];
sprintf( buf, My stuff is %s, stuff );
/* do something with buf here */
}
Of course this is exactly what will sting you if you can't be sure
what stuff might contain (in technical terms we say that stuff
is tainted so we can't trust it). The trick is that the C compiler
puts the buf variable on the stack and also puts the function
return address on the SAME stack AFTER buf when it calls sprintf().
Using the same stack for variables and code pointers is a good
optimisation for speed but it is bad for security because when
the stuff is too big it wipes over the return address. With some
care, it can replace the return address with a pointer into itself
which sets to program running onto a completely new chunk of code.
Now redhat (and others) have a few tricks to make that more difficult,
the first is to limit the executable sections of memory and make
it illegal for executable code to exist inside stack buffers. It is
interesting that Microsoft were talking about how important this
feature is and how they would have it real-soon-now at the same time
that Redhat were shipping with it enabled. The second is using a
randomised offset for various memory chunks in the program to make
it much more difficult to figure out what return address to load
into stuff to make it do what you want -- then the hacked program
merely crashes rather than opening a back door. Redhat also ships
with that feature.
The easiest source-code fix is to use the snprintf() function so
that the buffer size is known to the formatter like so:
int myfunc( char *stuff )
{
char buf[ 100 ];
snprintf( buf, 100, My stuff is %s, stuff );
/* do something with buf here */
}
But the snprintf() call is not POSIX, it is from BSD (and now adopted
by Linux) and last I looked Microsoft C did NOT provide that function.
Of course there are lots of other ways to protect yourself but the
Microsoft programmers are forced to do it the hard way.
Worse... when porting code from Linux and BSD onto Microsoft, the people
doing the port find there is no snprintf() so they knock up a quick
compatibility library that just ignores the buffer length and calls
sprintf() resulting in a nasty vulnerability but only in the Microsoft
version. Note that early Linux implementations (libc 4) had the same
hasty hack but it got fixed and I doubt that there are too many of
those old Linux boxes running on the Internet these days.
So yes, anyone can write bad code but in practical terms Microsoft
still has a bit of catching up to do.
- Tel ( http://bespoke.homlinux.net/ )
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Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
Tks Tel, that is a brilliant explanation for someone like me who doesn't
know C from Z :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:48:48AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
My bad. Of course Linux apps can be just as badly written as M$ apps
and can have buffer overflows.
What I should have said is that this attempt at a buffer over flow does
not affect Apache.
Whilst Linux apps can be badly written, there are a few reasons why
Microsoft apps tend to be worse. Consider that most of the people who
program for Linux have also tried working with Microsoft products and
they chose Linux because they wanted to do things the right way. This
has a filtering effect that pulls the strongest programmers away from
MS and toward either Linux or one of the *BSD variations. People who
care about money first and producing a good product second will tend
to go to the Microsoft camp, people who think that a good product
should be first priority and then look at money as a secondary
consideration usually gravitate in a free-software direction. Its
a difference of emphasis rather than a completely different approach
but it does make a difference.
Then there are the Microsoft customers who have not (until recently)
been willing to get nasty about software quality. With market forces
at work, if there is no demand for high security, high quality software
there will also be no supply. When Microsoft had a total monopoly
they just didn't have to care one way or the other... now that their
monopoly is weakening and some customers are getting aggressive they
are forced to care so they are making more of an effort.
As a practical example to all those C programmers out there, this is
the common idiom (since early KR days):
int myfunc( char *stuff )
{
char buf[ 100 ];
sprintf( buf, My stuff is %s, stuff );
/* do something with buf here */
}
Of course this is exactly what will sting you if you can't be sure
what stuff might contain (in technical terms we say that stuff
is tainted so we can't trust it). The trick is that the C compiler
puts the buf variable on the stack and also puts the function
return address on the SAME stack AFTER buf when it calls sprintf().
Using the same stack for variables and code pointers is a good
optimisation for speed but it is bad for security because when
the stuff is too big it wipes over the return address. With some
care, it can replace the return address with a pointer into itself
which sets to program running onto a completely new chunk of code.
Now redhat (and others) have a few tricks to make that more difficult,
the first is to limit the executable sections of memory and make
it illegal for executable code to exist inside stack buffers. It is
interesting that Microsoft were talking about how important this
feature is and how they would have it real-soon-now at the same time
that Redhat were shipping with it enabled. The second is using a
randomised offset for various memory chunks in the program to make
it much more difficult to figure out what return address to load
into stuff to make it do what you want -- then the hacked program
merely crashes rather than opening a back door. Redhat also ships
with that feature.
The easiest source-code fix is to use the snprintf() function so
that the buffer size is known to the formatter like so:
int myfunc( char *stuff )
{
char buf[ 100 ];
snprintf( buf, 100, My stuff is %s, stuff );
/* do something with buf here */
}
But the snprintf() call is not POSIX, it is from BSD (and now adopted
by Linux) and last I looked Microsoft C did NOT provide that function.
Of course there are lots of other ways to protect yourself but the
Microsoft programmers are forced to do it the hard way.
Worse... when porting code from Linux and BSD onto Microsoft, the people
doing the port find there is no snprintf() so they knock up a quick
compatibility library that just ignores the buffer length and calls
sprintf() resulting in a nasty vulnerability but only in the Microsoft
version. Note that early Linux implementations (libc 4) had the same
hasty hack but it got fixed and I doubt that there are too many of
those old Linux boxes running on the Internet these days.
So yes, anyone can write bad code but in practical terms Microsoft
still has a bit of catching up to do.
- Tel ( http://bespoke.homlinux.net/ )
--
Howard.
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When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft.
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Re: [SLUG] USB HD mounting ?
James, thanks. Initially, when I tried, it was partitioned and formatted; that's when I send the original mssg when I couldn't mount it, and, as I wasn't sure what's there, I connected it on another system and 'unpartitioned' existing stuff anyhow, thanks for the help: so far so good: Disk /dev/sda: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 38166 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 38166 390819685 Extended Once you've got it partitioned, format the partition(s) with whatever you like. FAT32 is evil but it will work on anything, reiserfs/ext3 aren't You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you Can't Fool Mom. to get the evil fat32, what do I use: # mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 mkfs.vfat 2.8 (28 Feb 2001) mkfs.vfat: Attempting to create a too large file system # mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 mkfs.msdos 2.8 (28 Feb 2001) mkfs.msdos: Attempting to create a too large file system -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RH 'system-switch-mail' ?
I'm trying to switch from Sendmail to Postfix on RH; in the X desktop (that I do NOT have) there is an icon that toggles bewteen the two; according to docs I've looked up, I'm supposed to run 'system-switch-mail' I don;t seem to have such, and 'yum install system-switch-mail' says: 'Cannot find a package matching system-switch-mail' neither can I find it on the CDs any thoughts how to find it, or, what it's called ..? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
solved: [SLUG] RH 'system-switch-mail' ?
OK, found it, it was called: 'redhat-switchmail' sorry, should kept looking a little longer quote who=Voytek 'yum install system-switch-mail' says: 'Cannot find a package matching system-switch-mail' neither can I find it on the CDs any thoughts how to find it, or, what it's called ..? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] The NT1 PlusII modem/addendum
Dear Sydney Linux Users Group, Just a couple of items I nearly forgot. This method of using the NT1 PlusII modem will ONLY run one line. Apparently in Windows, the software allows you to duplex the two lines the NT1 establishes and therefore double your data transfer speeds to about 128K or possibly a little more according to my readings. However, I have never bothered trying to duplex the NT1 because we prefer the convenience of always having a data line and a telephone line at the same time. Also, if the scheme I have outlined works on Mandrake and SuSE, I am sure it will work on RedHat or any other rpm distribution. I have absolutely no idea as to what a Debian distribution would do, but if Kppp is there in a Debian distribution (which it almost certainly is) then a bit of moving and shaking should get a Debian distribution running. \ You can add these comments to the previous email. Regards Tony Young -- Dr Tony Young 100 Langton Road Blackbutt Qld 4306 Australia ph (07) 4163 0395 fax as above To mess up a Linux PC, you need to work at it; To mess up your Windows PC, you just need to work on it. Scott Granneman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] UNSW Compsoc Installfest
Sadly no. I'll try to organise something though, since you guys ARE volunteering :) Phoebe On Apr 6, 2005 10:07 PM, Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Apr 2005, at 21:28, Phoebe Goh wrote: In the past, SLUG folks have come down to lend a hand (thanks!) so I'm hoping some of you might be able to volunteer your Saturday for a Good Cause. Will compsoc be providing the traditional pizza for the volunteers? :P -s -- Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nobody listens to techno... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] The NT1 PlusII modem/addendum
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:31:47 +1000, Dr Tony Young wrote: Just a couple of items I nearly forgot. This method of using the NT1 PlusII modem will ONLY run one line. Apparently in Windows, the software allows you to duplex the two lines the NT1 establishes and therefore double your data This is done in the NT1+ itself, and is enabled by an AT command. I don't have the docs handy, but it's somewhere in this dial command: AT!Z=9!T0=0!T1=0!T2=1!T4=1Dxxx. I set this one up on a RH7.3 system a couple of years ago and it works perfectly, using pppd just like any other modem. The difference is that you use e.g. /dev/input/ttyACM0 instead of /dec/ttyS0. You also need the appropriate usb modules listed in /etc/modules.conf. However, I have never bothered trying to duplex the NT1 because we prefer the convenience of always having a data line and a telephone line at the same time. You always have both available. The NT1+ automatically switches between one and two lines as necessary. It runs at 128k until a call comes in, or you pick up your handset to make a call, then it drops back to 64k until the call is over. Cheers, John -- Hm, imagine the demoralising effect of being hit hard in the face by a live, puking mouse, then getting sprayed with a mist of mouse vomit. -- Lionel Lauer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] UNSW Compsoc Installfest
Perhaps SLUG would like to provide refreshments? On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 14:15, Phoebe Goh wrote: Sadly no. I'll try to organise something though, since you guys ARE volunteering :) Phoebe On Apr 6, 2005 10:07 PM, Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Apr 2005, at 21:28, Phoebe Goh wrote: In the past, SLUG folks have come down to lend a hand (thanks!) so I'm hoping some of you might be able to volunteer your Saturday for a Good Cause. Will compsoc be providing the traditional pizza for the volunteers? :P -s -- Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RHEL 3 ? hardware req ?
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 09:41:40AM +1000, Mike MacCana wrote: In that case, I'd go with RHEL 4, for no other reason than it'll be Other things being equal, I'd also go RHEL4. A very important consideration is that it will have selinux which goes a good way towards stopping or minimising the damage caused by application software security bugs. Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Date of installation of Fedora update
I'm using Fedora Core 3. Using yum, I've recently updated all packages that I installed from my installation cds. That's been a process that's taken some days, because the computer has only dial-up access. Yesterday, I downloaded and installed the last of the updates. Shortly thereafter, I re-booted and was told during that process that I had removed my soundcard. Well, I hadn't. I suspect that one of the last few updates I installed caused the problem. Is there a way I can see in chronological order all the updates I've downloaded and installed, so that I can get a better idea of which update may have caused my problem? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] Possible hacker Attempt
On Thu, 7 Apr 2005, Phill wrote: I am also curious. How does this attack work? I understand the idea of filling up a buffer with junk but then Basically a snapshot of a bit of memory might look like this after processing the URL http://localhost/cgi-bin/?HELLO-WORLD byte: content: : H E L L O - W O R L D nul nul nul nul nul 0016: program code If the bit after the '?' character in the GET URL is inserted at byte 00 by apache for which it has only allocated 16 bytes then by adding more bytes you overwrite some code which at some point probably gets run. Key difference, under Linux it's only going to run as the user the original program was running as (eg www or apache). eg http://localhost/cgi-bin/?code_bytesnoopnoopnoopnoop noopjump_to_code It sometimes doesen't matter precisely where the buffer finishes, there's a reasonable chance that one of the noop bits actually get run (no operation, skip to next byte for instruction) and eventually the jump_to_code which goes back to the part of the buffer where the payload of the exploit is. These sort of buffer overflow exploits are not only very CPU specific but often operating system specific as it's making great assumptions about things like valid CPU op-codes and library calls. These bugs are often introduced by the use of the C function fgets() and similar which receives a sting from an input stream and puts it into a buffer without regard to length of the buffer. It's so frequent that gcc warns you about it's use now. Typically you specify a maximum number of characters to accept which presumably is less than or equal to the size of the buffer you allocated. -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - SLUG President EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.elx.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and everythinglinux.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs or email us at paidsupport at elx.com.au ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] excrypting fs
Hi all, I would like to encrypt /home and my shared directories on my boxes. Would I have to reformat them with an encrypt option? What is the over head with encrypted FS? Is it advisable to share encrypted fs using samba or would there be too much of an over head? Do I have to do a lot of house keeping on the file systems? Thanks Kevin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] excrypting fs
Kevin Saenz wrote: Hi all, I would like to encrypt /home and my shared directories on my boxes. Would I have to reformat them with an encrypt option? What is the over head with encrypted FS? Is it advisable to share encrypted fs using samba or would there be too much of an over head? Do I have to do a lot of house keeping on the file systems? Probably a stronger front door if the boys in blue come knocking with heavy hammers because they suspect that you have something to hide :) Thanks Kevin -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. begin:vcard fn:Howard Lowndes n:Lowndes;Howard org:LANNet Computing Associates adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name tel;work:02 6040 0222 tel;fax:02 6040 0222 tel;cell:0419 464 430 note:I am heartily sick and tired of telemarketers, therefore I do not answer phone calls which do not present Caller Line Identification, they get flicked to voicemail. I apologise if this inconveniences you, and I respect your right to not identify yourself, but I also ask that you respect my right to not answer your call if you choose not to identify yourself. Try dialing 1832 (#32# from mobiles) before the number, to present Caller Line Identification. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.lannet.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Date of installation of Fedora update
Is there a way I can see in chronological order all the updates I've downloaded and installed, so that I can get a better idea of which update may have caused my problem? at a guess the kernel ... second guess alsa-*... I'd try booting the old kernel and ssee if it works.. you do still have the old kernel?? :-) Dave. -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie Linux kernel - DRI, VAX / pam_smb / ILUG -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Groupware
I'm looking for a web based multi-user calendar function that is web based, PHP and preferably Postgresql (but will accept MySQL). What are your recommendations? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannet.com.au -- When you just want a system that works, you choose Linux; When you want a system that just works, you choose Microsoft. -- Flatter government, not fatter government; Get rid of the Australian states. begin:vcard fn:Howard Lowndes n:Lowndes;Howard org:LANNet Computing Associates adr:;;PO Box 1174;Lavington;NSW;2641;Australia email;internet:howard [AT] lowndes [DOT] name tel;work:02 6040 0222 tel;fax:02 6040 0222 tel;cell:0419 464 430 note:I am heartily sick and tired of telemarketers, therefore I do not answer phone calls which do not present Caller Line Identification, they get flicked to voicemail. I apologise if this inconveniences you, and I respect your right to not identify yourself, but I also ask that you respect my right to not answer your call if you choose not to identify yourself. Try dialing 1832 (#32# from mobiles) before the number, to present Caller Line Identification. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.lannet.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] excrypting fs
On Apr 7, 2005 3:36 PM, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably a stronger front door if the boys in blue come knocking with heavy hammers because they suspect that you have something to hide :) Hahaha.. And if anyone comes knocking it will probably be the AFP considering Kevin lives in Canberra ;) *jokes aside* I am curious about the question thought. Sounds heaps interesting. OSX offers such a service on your home directory and what not. I've never enabled it at this stage, but I guess its similar to the implementation on linux. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus Cable
Paul Dwerryhouse wrote: I apologise for this long reply but I warn anyone considering Optus Broadband to check that they are actually getting the service at the advertised price with no non-essential add-ons that are a disguised cost. Ah well, I've never had a problem with them, other than that nasty thing they did by capping their unlimited plans. Still with them after three and a half years... Cheers, Paul When I started with optus the phone line was free but after a while it developed a $25 a month charge, and soon after that a flatmate had a use for it so it has stayed. Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] argh! printer not workiong on ubuntu :(
ok, I've had enough - I really want my printer working and I just can't seem ot get it to. :( I run ubuntu (hoary) and it seems to detect it's there just fine, but it keeps telling me parallel port busy will try again - of course it's a USB printer and I keep changing it to either use detected printer or even USB port #1 (after checking that it actually is a) plugged into said port and b) turned on). it still won't actually print me up a test page this is really annoying as it was working fine when I had it on Warty. :( is anyone able to help me figure out what's going wrong here? :( Thanks in advance, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
