Re: [SLUG] IPv6

2006-10-07 Thread Martin Visser
Howard,While in some respect, I share your sentiments (in wanting to get people to think about the move to IPv6) I still think you are way too early. I have been doing network designs and consulting for a the very biggest corporate and government bodies for the last 18 years or so. I have been watching IPv6 as it began its gestation about 10-12 years ago. But guess what - I see almost *no* interest from even the largest of end-user enterprises. Only large software (read Microsoft) and networking companies (read Cisco) have made any sort of effort to promote. While it is built into the core of most current OSes and the higher-end network equipment - that really is about it. 
It only will really become meaningful when it becomes the default option from the major ISPs and carriers for the carriage of IP traffic. And even then I would suspect that for the most part, end-users will be able to choose to be shielded from the intricacies of IPv6.
Even in the briefest look around, you will realise how far away real-world adoption really is. Most configuration dialogues and web forms today still try to parse/display an IP address as a dotted quad (eg 
1.2.3.4). That is, they ignore the IPv6 format of IP addresses. The other simple matter is that I would wager that if you took 10 experienced (10+ years) network engineers and ask them about IPv6 and what it is about and have they even played with it, 9 of them would probably have told you about the huge new size of the address space, but the need for it has been pretty well removed with private IP address space (
10.x.x.x etc) and NAT, and no they haven't played with it. IMHO it really still is only of real interest to propeller heads (myself included).On the other hand I do believe it will come into play at some stage (because as Vint Cerf once said - every light buld will need an IP address in the future) but my current hunch is that it might be at least 5 years before any credible moves need to be made (by us end users).
I'm happy to be contradicted.Regards, MartinOn 10/5/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:I'm thinking that its about time I started thinking about planning for
IPv4 to IPv6 transitions for my SMB clients.What knowledge base is there out there, esp. any Been there, Done that,Got the {T shirt|Scars} to prove it.--Howard.LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people 
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Re: [SLUG] Wireless ISP Recommendation

2006-10-07 Thread Metrics
On Sat, Oct 07, 2006 at 10:57:08AM +1000, Jamshid Karimi wrote:
 Hi
 
 Could someone please suggest an isp which supports
 linux for wireless internet?
 
 Regards
 Jamshid
 

By wireless internet, do you mean roaming wireless. Similar to Unwired?
They're modem (well the one I have) just has a straight ethernet plug,
no other setup. Works fine with everything. Except I don't recommend
unwired or any of their resellers as they're plans are poor, service is
pretty crap, download speed drops to 32/32 when past the limit (which
was changed a month ago WITHOUT informing customers) and they throttle
certain types of traffic. For example, trying to update my Debian sid
box resulted in them completely blocking any FTP to ftp.debian.org for a
couple of hours.

Maybe look into iBurst? Although they may be just as bad.

Byron Hillis
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Re: [SLUG] IPv6

2006-10-07 Thread Joseph Goncalves
Hi Martin, 
 While in some respect, I share your sentiments (in wanting to get
 people to think about the move to IPv6) I still think you are way too
 early. I have been doing network designs and consulting for a the
 very biggest corporate and government bodies for the last 18 years or
 so. I have been watching IPv6 as it began its gestation about 10-12
 years ago. But guess what - I see almost *no* interest from even the
 largest of end-user enterprises. Only large software (read Microsoft)
 and networking companies (read Cisco) have made any sort of effort to
 promote. While it is built into the core of most current OSes and the
 higher-end network equipment - that really is about it.

I did a quick Google in an attempt to find the benefits that IPv6 has 
over IPv4. There does not seem to be a killer app for IPv6. The thing 
that impressed me is the ability for a IPv6 node to be mobile and maybe 
with the prevalence of wireless ISPs IPv6 will become a reality. I also 
read that IPv6 is more efficient to route, so what does that mean in 
percentage terms? Do you think it will be a good idea to start IPv6 
networks from the ground up, instead of starting with IPv4 and 
upgrading to IPv6?



 It only will really become meaningful when it becomes the default
 option from the major ISPs and carriers for the carriage of IP
 traffic. And even then I would suspect that for the most part,
 end-users will be able to choose to be shielded from the intricacies
 of IPv6.

End-users for the most part use domain names so this wouldn't change.


 Even in the briefest look around, you will realise how far away
 real-world adoption really is. Most configuration dialogues and web
 forms today still try to parse/display an IP address as a dotted
 quad (eg 1.2.3.4). That is, they ignore the IPv6 format of IP
 addresses. The other simple matter is that I would wager that if you
 took 10 experienced (10+ years) network engineers and ask them about
 IPv6 and what it is about and have they even played with it, 9 of
 them would probably have told you about the huge new size of the
 address space, but the need for it has been pretty well removed with
 private IP address space (10.x.x.x etc) and NAT, and no they haven't
 played with it. IMHO it really still is only of real interest to
 propeller heads (myself included).

From what I read, IPv6 has been rethought and re-engineered so that it 
just works a lot better. 


 On the other hand I do believe it will come into play at some stage
 (because as Vint Cerf once said - every light buld will need an IP
 address in the future) but my current hunch is that it might be at
 least 5 years before any credible moves need to be made (by us end
 users).

Maybe ubiquitous wireless mesh networks might do the trick...


 I'm happy to be contradicted.

I'm not really contradicting, just wanted some peoples thoughts on the 
matter, because I have been ignorant.

Regards
Joseph
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[SLUG] Script headaches

2006-10-07 Thread Christopher Martin
I am having some issues with scripting that I am sure some script wizard
will solve in 2 seconds, but I just have hit the wall with my patience.

At my work we have huge mail traffic, and a huge portion of that is spam,
which we have successfully killed off, mostly with the use of blacklists,
which we collect a lot of via rsync and deliver to rbldnsd. All of this
aside, the files arrive in gzip format. Now, so that rsync only gets what it
needs to I want top preserve the compressed version, but unlike bunzip there
is no -k option, and bunzip doesn't do gzip files.

So, then, I try and use a for loop in a script with gzcat, but then I just
can't get the swing of getting the truncated string outputted from expr
and finally got the irrits with the whole process, because there's surely a
better way.

Here's by very broken script:

#!/bin/sh
RBLFILES=/var/rbldnsd

Echo Process rbldnsd domain files rsync'd in gzip format

n=0
cd $RBLFILES
for i in *
do
n=`expr $n + 1`
echo Processing RBL domain file: #$n [$i] 
truncname='expr $i : '(..)'
/usr/bin/gzcat $i  $truncname
Done

And I tried:

#!/bin/sh
RBLFILES=/var/rbldnsd

n=0
cd $RBLFILES
for i in *
do
n=`expr $n + 1`
echo Processing spam [$i] #$n
expr $i : '(..)' | $truncname
/usr/bin/gzcat $i  $truncname
done


Any help humbly and gratefully accepted.
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Re: [SLUG] Script headaches

2006-10-07 Thread Michael Chesterton
Christopher Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, then, I try and use a for loop in a script with gzcat, but then I just
 can't get the swing of getting the truncated string outputted from expr
 and finally got the irrits with the whole process, because there's surely a
 better way.

Is this what you want?

truncname=`basename $i .gz`
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[SLUG] Mail (spamassassin?) problems

2006-10-07 Thread John
Hi list,I am having great difficulty in sorting my local postfix server. DMZ relay is working. I can send e-mail but I cannot receive it.I've included a 'tail' message of an e-mail I sent myself from gmail to my local address. From a previous attempt to sort this problem 
(thanks James Gray) I don't believe the 'unable to find user' is critical.It doesn't seem to make any difference whether I turn bayes auto-learn on or off as this R/W lock problem persists.My 
local.cf is:report_safe 0lock_method flockrequired_score 5.0use_bayes 1bayes_auto_learn 1bayes_ignore_header X-Bogositybayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Flagbayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Status
Thanks for any help.JohnOct 8 11:47:41 local postfix/smtpd[4854]: connect from DMZ[
192.168.1.1]Oct 8 11:47:41 local postfix/smtpd[4854]: BCAD420037: client=DMZ[192.168.1.1
]Oct 8 11:47:41 local postfix/cleanup[4857]: BCAD420037: message-id=

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 8 11:47:41 local postfix/qmgr[4785]: BCAD420037: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2197, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Oct 8 11:47:41 local postfix/smtpd[4854]: disconnect from DMZ[
192.168.1.1]Oct 8 11:47:42 local spamd[4833]: spamd: connection from localhost [

127.0.0.1] at port 4519Oct 8 11:47:42 local spamd[4833]: spamd: handle_user unable to find user: 'my_local_email_address'
Oct 8 11:47:42 local spamd[4833]: spamd: processing message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 for my_local_email_address:8
Oct 8 11:47:52 local spamd[4833]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: Interrupted system callOct 8 11:48:06 localn spamd[4833]: bayes: cannot open bayes databases /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: Interrupted system call
Oct 8 11:48:06 local spamd[4833]: spamd: clean message (-0.4/5.0) for my_local_email_address:8 in 24.9 seconds, 2184 bytes.Oct 8 11:48:06 local spamd[4833]: spamd: result: . 0 - ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_SHORT_LENGTH scantime=
24.9,size=2184,user=my_local_email_address,uid=8,required_score=5.0,rhost=localhost,raddr=127.0.0.1,rport=4519,mid=

[EMAIL PROTECTED],autolearn=unavailableOct 8 11:48:07 local spamd[4832]: prefork: child states: II


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