[SLUG] frozen throne under wine
I have glx installed (now...) and I cannot run frozen throne under wine correctly. Have I missed something? Warning: the specified System directory Lc:\\windows\\system32 is not accessible. Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL! Warning: the specified System directory Lc:\\windows\\system32 is not accessible. Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL! -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
Whoa. What do I do now? The good Reverend and a couple others are keen on it, but the reason that I am in this mess is this: I am returned to study, and am at my parents' property. We have good coverage according to the unwired site. If, like Rev. Rumble Reckons, they have a good return policy, then I will give it a go. I am not talking about the portable pcmcia card ($250) but the bizzare looking dt modem ($180). I was thinking I'd pay about $16-%30 according to the sales rep, who asked me to ask for her by name, but I forgot her name but she didn't know what linux is anyway. My father is a technophobe so even tho I could split his optus a/c (I already got him the router) I have no exp doing this. I'd be out of pocket only $40 for the ISA transceiver card/it only 54mbps but I am not a gamer. I am the only person this century to undertake a Master of IT w/o having an Internet connection. You guys are all from Sydney - maybe Nathan Buckley makes it better here? Truth be told I'm dual boot, and have to submit most coursework in .doc format, and OpenOffice just isn't good enough (then again neither is WordPerfect or WordPad.exe even) HOWEVER : Byron, I really appreciate your list, but I'd still go ahead...I NEED to be online, damn, but about linux users suffereing: can you elaborate some more, or can anyone? I am aware that several (BIGPOND) ISP's (TEL$TRA) do not allow (DODO) you to use most protocols finger, rcp, whatever port limewire uses and so on. I guess, I could get the guy to come and demostrate and make him setup on my linux partition first - any ideas anyone? I really appreciate all of your help. Henz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 10:48 +, hav wrote: Whoa. What do I do now? The good Reverend and a couple others are keen on it, but the reason that I am in this mess is this: I am returned to study, and am at my parents' property. We have good coverage according to the unwired site. If, like Rev. Rumble Reckons, they have a good return policy, then I will give it a go. My experience: I've suggested Unwired to three people because of their circumstances [1], and each of them have been happy with it. None of them are geeks. They probably don't notice the problems, and obviously don't care. They are all still my friends! Unwired advertise (still?) a return policy if it doesn't work. I have no reason to think they don't stand by the guarantee. Installation is a breeze - it's just ethernet/DHCP and then log on to their web site to start paying. That easy. I'm not an advocate. It works for some people. It worked for my daughter/friend/workcolleague. It may not work for you. If you can get your money back, you only have the time and effort to lose. I am not talking about the portable pcmcia card ($250) but the bizzare looking dt modem ($180). I was thinking I'd pay about $16-%30 according to the sales rep, who asked me to ask for her by name, but I forgot her name but she didn't know what linux is anyway. My father is a technophobe so even tho I could split his optus a/c (I already got him the router) I have no exp doing this. I'd be out of pocket only $40 for the ISA transceiver card/it only 54mbps but I am not a gamer. I am the only person this century to undertake a Master of IT w/o having an Internet connection. You guys are all from Sydney - maybe Nathan Buckley makes it better here? Truth be told I'm dual boot, and have to submit most coursework in .doc format, and OpenOffice just isn't good enough I'm intrigued by this.. I've been dealing with several accountants and lawyers lately who are utterly clueless and insist there is no choice but Word/Excel. They had no idea I was using OpenOffice - it was transparent to them, including Excel style spreadsheets. What problems have you had? (then again neither is WordPerfect or WordPad.exe even) HOWEVER : Byron, I really appreciate your list, but I'd still go ahead...I NEED to be online, damn, but about linux users suffereing: can you elaborate some more, or can anyone? I am aware that several (BIGPOND) ISP's (TEL$TRA) do not allow (DODO) you to use most protocols finger, rcp, whatever port limewire uses and so on. I guess, I could get the guy to come and demostrate and make him setup on my linux partition first - any ideas anyone? I really appreciate all of your help. Henz Help is here. If you are talking about connecting linux to Unwired, just don't tell them you are using Linux and you will have no problems. If you are talking about running services on your Unwired connection that may be more problematic, I'm not sure. [1] circumstances that suited unwired: one: absolutely crappy phone lines in a rental flat two: wanted to use the same ISP account at work/home/boy friend's place three: frequently moving house -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] yum, Centos, rpms etc
On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 09:36:28AM +1100, Voytek Eymont wrote: on my RH7.3 when I installed some 'additions' these often came as RPMs from dag.wieers.com; so, I would look on dag.wieers.com pages to find desired revision/distribution, then 'wget somefile' then 'rpm somefile' etc, etc I'm now setting up Centos 4.4, and, I'm reading some of the docs; so, is this the general idea: I should add 'dag.wieers.com' to my yum setup, There's often a 'seed' rpm that does that for you then, insted of 'wget/rpm' dynamic duo I just 'yum install somefile', is this what I should be doing ? sure, except fedora and centos has a much larger range of software through 'extras' see http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=37 and, is it like 'yum install clamav', with yum picking appropriate latest rpms and dependencies, etc ? yum installs dependencies if that's what you're asking Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: ISP in Sydney? Unwired ?
SNIP from Sydney - maybe Nathan Buckley makes it better here? Truth be told I'm dual boot, and have to submit most coursework in .doc format, and OpenOffice just isn't good enough I'm intrigued by this.. I've been dealing with several accountants and lawyers lately who are utterly clueless and insist there is no choice but Word/Excel. They had no idea I was using OpenOffice - it was transparent to them, including Excel style spreadsheets. What problems have you had? I also have had the transparent experience with the latest versions of OpenOffice. It is much better at producing .doc files than the previous versions. I have also supplied Excel spreadsheets to my accountant. Alan SNIP -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670Mobile: +61 427 486 206 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092FWD: 615662 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] frozen throne under wine
although you may have installed glx, it would seem that wine is unconvinced does glxgears run? Dean On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 19:27:17 +1100, Ken Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have glx installed (now...) and I cannot run frozen throne under wine correctly. Have I missed something? Warning: the specified System directory Lc:\\windows\\system32 is not accessible. Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL! Warning: the specified System directory Lc:\\windows\\system32 is not accessible. Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0. err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect problems err:wgl:has_opengl Intialization of OpenGL info failed, disabling OpenGL! -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
what do I need Perl on my server, apart from stuff I've added, like, amavisd or popb4smtp ?? as far as I can tell, many/most/some of the infiltrations done through say CMS vulnerabilities execute like 'perl sometext' if I was to rename perl to 'something_totally_different', and, edited amavis/popb4smtp/whatever to use '#!something_totally_different' what's the downside here, apart from preventing exploits of unpatched CMSs etc?? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] RPM vs source installs, can it cause probs ?
I'm installing Centos 4.4, I've added dag's RPM site , so I can now 'yum install mostthings', that works fine (thanks for the comments on that query) but, looking at say ProFTPD and Postfix, the readily available RPMs are somewhat backlevel to source versions if I decide to do a source install for some of the applications, am I likely to cause myself grief later on? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: is Perl really needed ?
Voytek Eymont wrote: what do I need Perl on my server, apart from stuff I've added, like, amavisd or popb4smtp ?? as far as I can tell, many/most/some of the infiltrations done through say CMS vulnerabilities execute like 'perl sometext' if I was to rename perl to 'something_totally_different', and, edited amavis/popb4smtp/whatever to use '#!something_totally_different' what's the downside here, apart from preventing exploits of unpatched CMSs etc?? A lot of stuff uses perl, often things you won't realise. I'd guess that if you try removing it, apt/yum/whatever will probably complain of dependencies. Install scripts might use perl, as well as system maintenance stuff (log rotation, etc). BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] editing iptables on Centos
On Wed, December 27, 2006 10:26 am, Alexander Stanley wrote: configure it to a non-standard port (12435 or something that nobody else would think of it immediately) and/or configure it against your own IP address so that only you can access webmin. This can be done with something like this: # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --dport 12435 -j ACCEPT thanks, Alex what's the range of acceptable non-standard port #s for webmin and ssh, can I use any 5 digit number ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
On 28/12/06, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what do I need Perl on my server, apart from stuff I've added, like, amavisd or popb4smtp ?? If you had a Debian system then you could tell exactly which package declares dependency on perl. Debian's perl-base package is declared as Priority: required and Essential: yes, in other words you'll have to shoot the Debian system in the head and try to pry perl-base out of its frozen hands if you want to take it out :). as far as I can tell, many/most/some of the infiltrations done through say CMS vulnerabilities execute like 'perl sometext' What would prevent an attack vector which includes installing a perl interpreter or a compiled perl program on the attacked server? if I was to rename perl to 'something_totally_different', and, edited amavis/popb4smtp/whatever to use '#!something_totally_different' what's the downside here, apart from preventing exploits of unpatched CMSs etc?? I suspect you are looking at this in the wrong way - try to contain the CMS systems (e.g. maybe run them under a limited user and chroot or some other segregated environment) instead of trying to identify and hide all potential tools used by holes in the CMS. Good luck, --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RPM vs source installs, can it cause probs ?
On 28/12/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: if I decide to do a source install for some of the applications, am I likely to cause myself grief later on? It's possible that the source installs will need later version libraries than those that are part of the RPM based install; this will probably cause grief. Haven't tried this myself (being a Debian person) but how feasible would it be for Voytek to try to create RPM's for the versions he's interested in? --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] editing iptables on Centos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Voytek Eymont wrote: On Wed, December 27, 2006 10:26 am, Alexander Stanley wrote: configure it to a non-standard port (12435 or something that nobody else would think of it immediately) and/or configure it against your own IP address so that only you can access webmin. This can be done with something like this: # iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --dport 12435 -j ACCEPT thanks, Alex what's the range of acceptable non-standard port #s for webmin and ssh, can I use any 5 digit number ? G'day again, To be honest I'm not 100% sure. From memory anything about 10,000 is considered fine, but I've usually got for numbers with significance by stringing together birthday dates with a random number to join them. So, take Australia day (26th of the 1st Month and go) 26901 for webmin :) Or takes the ages of two people and another number (or the age of a place you work or live or something). Hope it helps. Hoo Roo, Alex. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkvtIqiAqtUUyjdYRAgmUAJ9G+s1Fd8S5z19h+i5Ae+2f7dKOgACgpVaH 97Y+kg3GH2v+1orXTSEX+Fk= =MUYp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] editing iptables on Centos
On 28/12/06, Alexander Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: what's the range of acceptable non-standard port #s for webmin and ssh, can I use any 5 digit number ? G'day again, To be honest I'm not 100% sure. From memory anything about 10,000 is considered fine, but I've usually got for numbers with significance by stringing together birthday dates with a random number to join them. So, take Australia day (26th of the 1st Month and go) 26901 for webmin :) Or takes the ages of two people and another number (or the age of a place you work or live or something). $ perl -e 'print int rand 65536, \n' I don't think there is any practical limitation above 1024 or so, except for the unofficial protocols like backorifice and friends. --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
It appears that the vulnerability is with a particular CMS. Now the example they have given is perl, the problem is that you can potentially execute anything through the exploit, security through obscurity is not absolute I generally leave obscurity to the birds, you need to ensure your machine has not been compromised and then follow your companies security procedures in resolving the issue. With your CMS problem you have 2 options. 1. stop using the CMS that has the problem until they have fixed the security flaw. 2. make sure the version of the CMS you have is not affected. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] editing iptables on Centos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Alexander Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: what's the range of acceptable non-standard port #s for webmin and ssh, can I use any 5 digit number ? G'day again, To be honest I'm not 100% sure. From memory anything about 10,000 is considered fine, but I've usually got for numbers with significance by stringing together birthday dates with a random number to join them. So, take Australia day (26th of the 1st Month and go) 26901 for webmin :) Or takes the ages of two people and another number (or the age of a place you work or live or something). $ perl -e 'print int rand 65536, \n' I don't think there is any practical limitation above 1024 or so, except for the unofficial protocols like backorifice and friends. --P G'day Penedo and others, Yes, anything above 1024 is nice, but a lot of people have thrown in the unofficial protocols as you said and I find most of them reside between 1024 and 10,000 (all though there are a few outlying ones). Best bet is usually an obscurely high number ;) Hoo Roo, Alex. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFkyQ1qiAqtUUyjdYRAt3DAJ4/NrNTwDRuFzRx4wZzt0kfJYlOmwCgnG+C 7xS8nJFFNPS+11nj/IegiM0= =YMiL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] howto backgrade Firefox to v1.5 in Edgy?
On Wednesday 27 December 2006 11:29, Sonia Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Goncalves wrote: On Sunday 24 December 2006 10:39, Sonia Hamilton wrote: * On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 08:26:07PM +1100, Sonia Hamilton wrote: What is the best way to backgrade Firefox to version 1.5 in Ubuntu Edgy? I've done some more playing this. I backgraded to Firefox 1.5, still got the problems, worked out it was the flash plugin causing Firefox to crash. I'm now back to version 2 without flash - no great loss :-) You probably facing the problem the flash plug-in is having with the composite extension. You can use the XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 environment variable as a work around to the problem. Here is a reference to the problem I Googled: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 Thanks Joseph, I've already tried that - still crashes on some sites. So I'm flash free ATM :-) Some other things to try: * don't use 16-bit colour, use 24-bit (this worked for me) * use the Flashblock extension to block most Flash animations * use Gnash instead of Adobe's Flash Player -- Our products should emphasise security right out of the box, and we must constantly refine and improve that security as threats evolve. A good example of this is the changes we made in Outlook to avoid email borne viruses. - Bill Gates pgpdzmf6lPKGt.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
On Thu, December 28, 2006 10:37 am, Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect you are looking at this in the wrong way - try to contain the CMS systems (e.g. maybe run them under a limited user and chroot or some other segregated environment) instead of trying to identify and hide all potential tools used by holes in the CMS. perhaps, but, it certainly would have prevented two infiltration I had in the last few month I suspect any kind of segregated environment would require bigger hardware ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
On 28/12/06, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, December 28, 2006 10:37 am, Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect you are looking at this in the wrong way - try to contain the CMS systems (e.g. maybe run them under a limited user and chroot or some other segregated environment) instead of trying to identify and hide all potential tools used by holes in the CMS. perhaps, but, it certainly would have prevented two infiltration I had in the last few month I suspect any kind of segregated environment would require bigger hardware ? I don't know - bigger than what? (i.e. what have you got now)? As far as I understand you (Voytek) are in the business of hosting multiple domains on a single Linux image. Something which seems to be relatively light on hardware and give very good segregation are linux vservers (http://linux-vserver.org). I've seen a hosting company providing such a service based on such technology (Virtuozo, back before it was opened up, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVZ for a start), Wikipedia seems to try to compare the different solutions in that space so maybe you want to start digging there (and I'd be curios if you got back to us with your conclusions). Good luck, --P -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] is Perl really needed ?
Voytek Eymont wrote: On Thu, December 28, 2006 10:37 am, Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect you are looking at this in the wrong way - try to contain the CMS systems (e.g. maybe run them under a limited user and chroot or some other segregated environment) instead of trying to identify and hide all potential tools used by holes in the CMS. perhaps, but, it certainly would have prevented two infiltration I had in the last few month I *REALLY* honestly don't think so. Once somebody is in they will use a Perl script. If Perl isn't installed they will do something else, like uploading a precomiled binary. The idea is to prevent people getting in to begin with. Once they are in its way too late. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ Web (hosting), security and high-performance computing are the three areas where Linux has more strength. -- Bob Muglia, senior VP in charge of Windows Server development. http://news.com.com/Microsoft+targets+Apache+Web+server/2100-1010_3-5735805.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RPM vs source installs, can it cause probs ?
On 12/28/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: if I decide to do a source install for some of the applications, am I likely to cause myself grief later on? It's possible that the source installs will need later version libraries than those that are part of the RPM based install; this will probably cause grief. Haven't tried this myself (being a Debian person) but how feasible would it be for Voytek to try to create RPM's for the versions he's interested in? I don't think creating an RPM is going to achieve anything as he'd still need to identify the dependencies and handle them correctly. He needs to identify the dependencies in order to properly compile the product anyway. If he creates an RPM and lists them properly in the RPM, the RPM system will protect him from breaking his system inadvertently while doing future upgrades. That, to me, sounds like a lot is being achieved -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RPM vs source installs, can it cause probs ?
Penedo wrote: On 28/12/06, Howard Lowndes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: if I decide to do a source install for some of the applications, am I likely to cause myself grief later on? It's possible that the source installs will need later version libraries than those that are part of the RPM based install; this will probably cause grief. Haven't tried this myself (being a Debian person) but how feasible would it be for Voytek to try to create RPM's for the versions he's interested in? I suggest that Voytek take a look at CheckInstall: http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/ It facilitates the quick and dirty creation of RPM/Debian/Slackware packages. -- This is likely to be administered for a course of years and then end in despotism ... when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government, being incapable of any other - Benjamin Franklin in a speech to delegates to the US Constitutional Convention prior to the final vote. pgpYSfZT0gYf7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
