[SLUG] Edgy install frozen while resizing NTFS

[Ben]

I'm part way through installing Ubuntu 6.10 on a friend's PC using the
LiveCD graphical installation tool.

Windows was using roughly 3-4GB of a 40GB HDD and I told the installer
to resize it to 50%.

The mouse cursor won't move and the progress cursor is not
animated.There doesn't appear to be any HDD activity.

Have I hosed his NTFS partition? (I don't think he keeps backups).

What is the best way to proceed from here?

I haven't rebooted in case there is any good way to salvage from this point.

Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Ben]

On 2/9/07, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Whoops, I meant Automatix. Use EasyUbuntu instead of Automatix.


I shall try it on the system that I'm installing for a friend now and
for my second office PC :-)
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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Sridhar Dhanapalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 1/30/07, Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm interested in something like Freespire eating into the Mickeysoft
> > > desktop space, since that distro provides non-purists with legal
> > > and free as in beer access to all the multi-media drivers / codecs /
> > > other fru-fru that one needs to compete with a Winders or Mac
> > > MM desktop.
> >
> > installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
> > and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.
> >
> > I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every system
> > I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably is only an
> > issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should be ok for any
> > non-geek.
>
> *Please* don't recommend EasyUbuntu. It is shunned by Ubuntu developers,
> mostly because of its tendency to break future upgrades.

Whoops, I meant Automatix. Use EasyUbuntu instead of Automatix.



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[SLUG] Re: Brand New User - Ubuntu Feisty Fawn - BEWARE

[bill]

A couple of days ago I tried to install Kubuntu Feisty herd 3 (Live 
CD)on my laptop ( triple boot XP Home/XP Pro/Kubuntu 6.10) and the 
partition creation part of the Install hosed my hard drive.


I've installed Ubuntu/Kubuntu many times ( I have it currently on 5 PCs) 
and had no problem with thie installation in any way before - I did 
nothing different here - reformat existing Kubuntu partition and keep 
existing Swap partition.


Now I have 2 XP partitions with bad partition table info, one partition 
ext3 empty except for "Lost and Found" - this was my Data partition and 
all data is gone - and what was my Kubuntu partition - now unformated - 
Swap has disappeared and space added to ubformated partition.


Stupidly I did all of this before checking the Ubuntu Community Forums 
(http://ubuntuforums.org/)  which warn of qparted problems ( providing 
that you search for the problem) with Feisty.


THe Live CD of Feisty Herd 3 runs fine.

Hope this save somebody a problem

Here's the testdisk analysis of my hard drive


TestDisk 6.3, Data Recovery Utility, March 2006
Christophe GRENIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.cgsecurity.org

Disk /dev/hda - 60 GB / 55 GiB - CHS 116280 16 63
PTestDisk 6.3, Data Recovery Utility, March 2006
Christophe GRENIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.cgsecurity.org

Disk /dev/hda - 60 GB / 55 GiB - CHS 116280 16 63
Partition   StartEndSize in sectors
D HPFS - NTFS  0   1  1 20479  15 63   20643777
D HPFS - NTFS  20479  12  1 40799  15 63   20482812
P Linux40800   1  1 61598  15 63   20965329
D Linux61598   8  1 63686  15 632105208 [/]
D Linux63686   5  1 116264  15 63   52999317 [/]



Structure: Ok.  Use Up/Down Arrow keys to select partition.
Use Left/Right Arrow keys to CHANGE partition characteristics:
*=Primary bootable  P=Primary  L=Logical  E=Extended  D=Deleted
Keys A: add partition, L: load backup, T: change type, P: list files,
Enter: to continue
EXT3 Large file Sparse superblock Backup superblock, 10734 MB / 10236 
MiBartition   StartEndSize in sectors

D HPFS - NTFS  0   1  1 20479  15 63   20643777
D HPFS - NTFS  20479  12  1 40799  15 63   20482812
P Linux40800   1  1 61598  15 63   20965329
D Linux61598   8  1 63686  15 632105208 [/]
D Linux63686   5  1 116264  15 63   52999317 [/]

As yet I haven't figured out how to use Testdisk to hopefully correct my 
problem - any advice appreciated.




Bill



I've just been having a look at the new Feisty Fawn (groan!) version of
Ubuntu. In the Add/Remove programs options, there is a one-stop version
of installing restricted software. It seems to be a replacement (or
more likely, an incorporation) of Easy Ubuntu.

As I mentioned earlier, I have been trying to set up my friend who is
an ex-Windows person. Just doing the Easy Ubuntu installation was not
enough on his machine (or mine) to get everything working. I followed
the routine here
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2812/how-to_setup_debian and most
video and sound file formats seem to play automatically.

This route worked on my Debian Sid, my Feisty Fawn and an older Ubuntu
Dapper.

Cheers,
Alan

  



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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Alan L Tyree]

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 08:21:17 +0900
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Friday 09 February 2007 06:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I'm interested in something like Freespire eating into the
> > > Mickeysoft desktop space, since that distro provides non-purists
> > > with legal and free as in beer access to all the multi-media
> > > drivers / codecs / other fru-fru that one needs to compete with a

> Ben, sigh, how I wish it were true. I have made my SuSE box work
on
> 70% of all the sites I trawl (you-tube, nasa, google-video
> newyork-times video etc) (And fiddling for ever means I don't know
> what I did) now having setup an ubuntu box for my sister and run
> automatix and tried easyubuntu both yield significantly less than the
> 70% that I get. Too hard for a bear of little brain ...

I can watch each of the ones that you mention except for *some* NASA
videos. I followed the guide here:
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2812/how-to_setup_debian AFTER adding
the restricted stuff via EasyUbuntu or the new Add/Remove material in
Feisty Fawn.

Alan



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Re: [SLUG] Is Xubuntu really light-weight?

[Amos Shapira]

On 09/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sorry, the reason I pointed you at rom-o-matic was their wealth of options
eg
grub: boot windows
  boot pxe

or CDROM pxe boot

or CDROM network boot (tagged image)

or HD versions of above

etc
Point of LTSP is that your stately lappie will work at server performance.
192M is quite adequate and even my ebox-2300 (128M + 200MHz) works
brilliantly



Thanks. I now see
http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/eb_imagetypes#dos_executable_.com which I
missed before. Will give it a try.

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Re: [SLUG] Is Xubuntu really light-weight?

[jam]

On Friday 09 February 2007 06:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The last version of winders where loadlin works is 95 or 98. So you can
> > expect
> > it to not get much attention anymore.
> > Wots wrong with PXE? see http://www.rom-o-matic.net/
> > My lappie F12 = boot menu, option PXE. Loadlin may not even work anymore.
> > YMMV
>
> You must have missed the beginning of this thread - the machine is a
> Toshiba Satellite 4030CDT circa 1998 with Windows 98 on it, and I don't
> dare to try to touch its ancient BIOS to try to teach it PXE booting (or is
> there a way to start PXE boot without changing the BIOS?).
>
> So loadlin is all I'm left with. I managed to make it load the kernel and
> initrd image from inside win98 but apparently the initrd image I created
> missed the right network drivers. I think I figured out how to overcome
> this but now I'm busy with another (temporary?) way to achieve the goals of
> this "project" so it will take time to get back to trying my fix.
>
> BTW - XFCE is indeed much much lighter on my existing desktop, and I should
> try to test E17 at some stage...

Sorry, the reason I pointed you at rom-o-matic was their wealth of options
eg
grub: boot windows
  boot pxe

or CDROM pxe boot

or CDROM network boot (tagged image)

or HD versions of above

etc
Point of LTSP is that your stately lappie will work at server performance. 
192M is quite adequate and even my ebox-2300 (128M + 200MHz) works 
brilliantly
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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[jam]

On Friday 09 February 2007 06:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm interested in something like Freespire eating into the Mickeysoft
> > desktop space, since that distro provides non-purists with legal
> > and free as in beer access to all the multi-media drivers / codecs /
> > other fru-fru that one needs to compete with a Winders or Mac
> > MM desktop.
>
> installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
> and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.
>
> I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every system
> I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably is only an
> issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should be ok for any
> non-geek.

Ben, sigh, how I wish it were true. I have made my SuSE box work on 70% of all 
the sites I trawl (you-tube, nasa, google-video newyork-times video etc)
(And fiddling for ever means I don't know what I did) now having setup an 
ubuntu box for my sister and run automatix and tried easyubuntu both yield 
significantly less than the 70% that I get.
Too hard for a bear of little brain ...
James
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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Sridhar Dhanapalan]

On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm interested in something like Freespire eating into the Mickeysoft
> > desktop space, since that distro provides non-purists with legal
> > and free as in beer access to all the multi-media drivers / codecs /
> > other fru-fru that one needs to compete with a Winders or Mac
> > MM desktop.
>
> installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
> and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.
>
> I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every system
> I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably is only an
> issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should be ok for any
> non-geek.

*Please* don't recommend EasyUbuntu. It is shunned by Ubuntu developers, 
mostly because of its tendency to break future upgrades.

EasyUbuntu[1] is much nicer on the system, and should provide far fewer 
headaches as time goes on.


[1] http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/


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[SLUG] Re: [LINK] Is SLUG down?

[grove]

Hi everyone,
Some of the root nameservers in the US were the victims of some sort of attack 
the past 48 hours.


This is causing several DNS caches around the world to become polluted and all 
sorts
of name/addr problems are arising as a result.

For example some well known DNS names are not visible at my workplace (via 
AARNET)
but are perfectly visible via my ISP.

I suspect some people are getting the names and others are not.

The Internet is a wonderful, fickle and fragile thing.


rachel

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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Alan L Tyree]

On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:09:29 +1100
Jacinta Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ben wrote:
> 
> > installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
> > and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.
> > 
> > I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every
> > system I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably
> > is only an issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should
> > be ok for any non-geek.
> 
> I've heard nasty reports too.  The new poster child for this
> functionality is "EasyUbuntu" http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
> which has a very nice gui, simple instructions (some command line
> needed at the start -- just cut'n'paste) and further adds itself to
> your Applications menu for future access.
> 
> As far as I know they have roughly the same functionality, although
> Easy Ubuntu has the big plus of being much easier to find when doing
> a basic web search.  ;)

I've just been having a look at the new Feisty Fawn (groan!) version of
Ubuntu. In the Add/Remove programs options, there is a one-stop version
of installing restricted software. It seems to be a replacement (or
more likely, an incorporation) of Easy Ubuntu.

As I mentioned earlier, I have been trying to set up my friend who is
an ex-Windows person. Just doing the Easy Ubuntu installation was not
enough on his machine (or mine) to get everything working. I followed
the routine here
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2812/how-to_setup_debian and most
video and sound file formats seem to play automatically.

This route worked on my Debian Sid, my Feisty Fawn and an older Ubuntu
Dapper.

Cheers,
Alan


> 
> All the best,
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Jacinta Richardson]

Ben wrote:


installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.

I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every system
I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably is only an
issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should be ok for any
non-geek.


I've heard nasty reports too.  The new poster child for this functionality is 
"EasyUbuntu" http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ which has a very nice gui, 
simple instructions (some command line needed at the start -- just cut'n'paste) 
and further adds itself to your Applications menu for future access.


As far as I know they have roughly the same functionality, although Easy Ubuntu 
has the big plus of being much easier to find when doing a basic web search.  ;)


All the best,

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Re: [SLUG] Is Xubuntu really light-weight?

[Amos Shapira]

On 08/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The last version of winders where loadlin works is 95 or 98. So you can
expect
it to not get much attention anymore.
Wots wrong with PXE? see http://www.rom-o-matic.net/
My lappie F12 = boot menu, option PXE. Loadlin may not even work anymore.
YMMV



You must have missed the beginning of this thread - the machine is a Toshiba
Satellite 4030CDT circa 1998 with Windows 98 on it, and I don't dare to try
to touch its ancient BIOS to try to teach it PXE booting (or is there a way
to start PXE boot without changing the BIOS?).

So loadlin is all I'm left with. I managed to make it load the kernel and
initrd image from inside win98 but apparently the initrd image I created
missed the right network drivers. I think I figured out how to overcome this
but now I'm busy with another (temporary?) way to achieve the goals of this
"project" so it will take time to get back to trying my fix.

BTW - XFCE is indeed much much lighter on my existing desktop, and I should
try to test E17 at some stage...

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] Brand new user

[Ben]

On 1/30/07, Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I'm interested in something like Freespire eating into the Mickeysoft
desktop space, since that distro provides non-purists with legal
and free as in beer access to all the multi-media drivers / codecs /
other fru-fru that one needs to compete with a Winders or Mac
MM desktop.


installing automatix in Ubuntu is very easy (no command line needed)
and addresses all the non driver, free like beer stuff.

I've heard nasty reports about it, but it's been fine on every system
I've put it on (four so far with Ubuntu 6.10), and probably is only an
issue if you're doing custom setup of stuff - so should be ok for any
non-geek.

Ben
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[SLUG] Re: Something happened at about 4:30 this morning...

[Richard Ibbotson]

Hi

> I read a story about an attack on several root DNS servers recently
> -- maybe the same botnet was pushing a lot of spam, and got taken
> offline for one reason or another?

For a full discussion have a look at

http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2007-February/subject.html

"so after the DNS - Attack "


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Re: [SLUG] Something happened at about 4:30 this morning...

[nornagon]

I read a story about an attack on several root DNS servers recently --
maybe the same botnet was pushing a lot of spam, and got taken offline
for one reason or another?

On 2/8/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

...that was when I saw a sudden drop in the level of spam attempting to
connect to my mail server.

It had been steady at about 50,000/day and then quite suddenly dropped
by half.  It's not as if it had previously been coming from a small
range of addresses either, but there is a marked drop in the positive
responses from RBL lists.

I'm guessing that a big botnet controller somewhere has been taken
offline.  Would that be a valid assessment.

Graph at http://www.lannet.com.au/traffic/h168/index.html  BTW, the hole
in the middle is because I took the mail server off line for an hour to
do some work on it  :)

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