Re: [SLUG] how to get the Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) to work with FEDORA 7
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 01:13 +1000, Daryl Thompson wrote: could some one please help me get my wireless card on my laptop to work on FEDORA 7 I found that it took a lot of fiddling with various firmware before one of them just worked. There is no official firmware release from Broadcom. Linux support for the Broadcom WLAN is a nightmare. Good luck, Glen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slightly OT
Hi Alex Dick Smiths Jaycar Electronics CTX as mentioned. ADELong just up the road from CTX. RS Electronics Farnell Mark Phillips On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:33 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: Hi I was wondering if any body knows where I can get a serial to usb converter for a WL-500gP. I am running openwrt on it and would like serial access. There are lots of links on the site to american places to purchase such devices. I thought this list might be geeky enough to have some answers Alex -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slightly OT
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 04:28:53PM +1000, Mark Phillips wrote: Hi Alex Dick Smiths Strange went in the one at rhodes and they couldn't help me. Jaycar Electronics CTX as mentioned. ADELong just up the road from CTX. thanks google them RS Electronics Farnell Mark Phillips On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:33 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: Hi I was wondering if any body knows where I can get a serial to usb converter for a WL-500gP. I am running openwrt on it and would like serial access. There are lots of links on the site to american places to purchase such devices. I thought this list might be geeky enough to have some answers Alex -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slightly OT
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 04:28:53PM +1000, Mark Phillips wrote: Hi Alex Dick Smiths Jaycar Electronics CTX as mentioned. ADELong just up the road from CTX. RS Electronics Farnell Mark Phillips I found a USB to DB9M RS-232 Converter at jaycar. My problem is, the serial ports on the DL are 3.3v. Will these devices handle that properly ? Alex On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 13:33 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: Hi I was wondering if any body knows where I can get a serial to usb converter for a WL-500gP. I am running openwrt on it and would like serial access. There are lots of links on the site to american places to purchase such devices. I thought this list might be geeky enough to have some answers Alex -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get the Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) to work with FEDORA 7
On 7/23/07, Daryl Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # /sbin/iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID: Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B Encryption key:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Looks like it's already working. You have a wireless interface (wlan0), just it's not associated with any wireless access point. So just try associate; something like iwconfig wlan0 essid MyAccessPoint (of course replacing MyAccessPoint with your SSID). For WEP, do iwconfig wlan0 key open THEWEPHEXKEY (whatever your key is). WPA is tougher to set up from scratch (you need wpa_supplicant), but FC7 should include tools which do all the associating and WPA for you. You probably should use those. :P Note, however, that just because you've successfully got a wireless interface, doesn't necessarily mean that associating etc will work (although it almost always does). However, the linux native bcm driver isn't very good, and a lot of people use the windows broadcom drivers under ndiswrapper instead. A way to test if you have basic wireless ability is to do a iwlist wlan0 scan, which should hopefully show you the available wireless networks around you. If you see scan results, you're probably fine with the current drivers, but if manually associating (as described earlier) still isn't working, consider switching to the ndiswrapper drivers. David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get the Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) to work with FEDORA 7
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:56 +1000, David P wrote: On 7/23/07, Daryl Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # /sbin/iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth0 no wireless extensions. wmaster0 no wireless extensions. wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID: Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B Encryption key:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 Looks like it's already working. You have a wireless interface (wlan0), just it's not associated with any wireless access point. So just try associate; something like iwconfig wlan0 essid MyAccessPoint (of course replacing MyAccessPoint with your SSID). Its a tricky card to play with, and just having iwconfig see wlan0 is far from a reassurance that it is working. For WEP, do iwconfig wlan0 key open THEWEPHEXKEY (whatever your key is). WPA is tougher to set up from scratch (you need wpa_supplicant), but FC7 should include tools which do all the associating and WPA for you. You probably should use those. :P Fedora either includes, or yum's network-manager which I have found to be great, connecting to every network I have cared to try. Note, however, that just because you've successfully got a wireless interface, doesn't necessarily mean that associating etc will work (although it almost always does). However, the linux native bcm driver isn't very good, and a lot of people use the windows broadcom drivers under ndiswrapper instead. I would strongly dissagree with this point. It was true prior to kernel 2.6.19, (I use 2.6.20) but now it works a treat. I get far greater speeds when I boot into Debian than I do using the broadcom drivers in Windows - its not even a comparison, linux gets my line speed - about 500kbs - and Windows gets about 60kbs. I can also connect from greater distances. A way to test if you have basic wireless ability is to do a iwlist wlan0 scan, which should hopefully show you the available wireless networks around you. If you see scan results, you're probably fine with the current drivers, but if manually associating (as described earlier) still isn't working, consider switching to the ndiswrapper drivers. Or just click on the network-manager icon and have a look at what it has detected. Unfortunately Im still pretty snowed under with Uni stuff, but if you want me to help out you can email me directly with what you have done so far and Ill try to walk you through it - or - you can usually get me on yahoo or irc. tuxta2 is my username for yahoo, and Im often in #gclug and #ubuntu-au with username tuxta. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slightly OT
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 18:51 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: I found a USB to DB9M RS-232 Converter at jaycar. My problem is, the serial ports on the DL are 3.3v. Will these devices handle that properly ? I don't know about the device, but generally 3.3V refers to a Low Voltage TTL signal: Asserted output 2.4V Asserted input 2.0V Non-asserted output 0.4V Non-asserted input 0.8V (from memory, you'd better check these) RS-232 signals are different: Asserted output -15V to -5V Asserted input -25V to -3V Undefined-3V to +3V Non-asserted output +5V to +15V Non-asserted input +3V to +25V (again from memory) Pumping a RS-232 signal into a LVTTL chip isn't going to be pretty. And just using the output is going to be problematic too, the load will cause current to rise beyond the spec of the output device. So you need a LVTTL/RS-232 buffer. There's plenty of chips, designs kits and even pre-built PCBs around. I'd have a quick hunt through the online shops selling PICs, since 3.3V-level RS-232-protocol is a common way of programming those. Plan B would be the buy the part you actually wanted, a USB to LVTTL-level RS232-protocol converter. Again, see the PIC suppliers like Dontronics. Note that these often don't work with Linux. I had to make one myself by buying a Linux-supported USB-RS232 dongle and ripping off its LVTTL/RS-232 buffer -- given where you are at I wouldn't recommend that approach. Plan C is to order a MAX3232 and make that router talk real RS-232. Our own Rod has done that [1] for the WRT-54G. [1] http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/wrt54gs/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OpenMoko.com online
On 7/10/07, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just ordered an Advanced version, which I'll be bringing to SLUG if it arrives in time. sorry to disappoint, but I canceled the order after receiving an ominous warning from the orders department about how the phone can't do anything at all and isn't any use for anyone who isn't developing the phone software itself. I think they got wa too many orders and tried to scare every non C coder off. Apparently you can't even make calls now, which is contrary to everything else I read. I will certainly get the V2 and it bring it along if it can at minimum: make calls and have the power consumption controlled to make it useful for at least a day on one charge. Python bindings would be nice as well. Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought
Just a few extra notes on this topic... On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 11:05 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On 22/07/07, Rufi_Dukes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if there is anyone here who could help me by looking at the quote below (from pioneer) and telling me if there are any obvious specs that jump out and strike the reader as odd, or as overkill, or under-resourced, or in any other way out of balance.. i'm a newbie who is attracted to this deal because it comes with ubuntu pre-installed (the only one, as far as i know, available to me in australia) BUT! i want to be sure that everything will work when i get it, bc i want to hit the ground running with my ubuntu experience so, specifically: 1. if a company like pioneer says it will pre-install ubuntu, can one be reasonably sure that they bed all the software in and test drive it in the factory before shipping it to me? Ask Google? 2. can i expect that there will be no compatibility issues The way I bought my computer, was to do plenty of research. Rather than looking at pre-configured systems, I compiled a list of specific hardware that I wanted and already knew would work under linux. Then I took it to my local computer store and got the guy to put it together for me special. You can even ask for it to be supplied without software. (A naked computer - oh my!) It might be more expensive than getting a Dell or whatever, but I got exactly what I wanted. Of course this wont work quite as well if you are shopping for a laptop. In that case I would agree that looking at the systems offered with Ubuntu in the States and trying to get the equivalent system here. Even if it means you have to buy Windows too. 3. how important is the 64/32 bit issue? I have had a 64 bit system for more than two years. While there is a definite coolness factor to having a 64 bit system (if you are impressed by that sort of thing like I am), I am not convinced exactly what the practical benefits to having a 64 bit system are. I have encountered a few problems that needed to be solved that I would not have had to deal with at all had I just gone with a i386 system, but then if I didn't want to play around with my computer I wouldn't have gotten into this whole linux thing, would I? 64 bit linux is very well supported by the distros that offer it, (far better than 64 bit windows as far as I can tell.) There is a lot more software compiled to run on it, a benefit of most of the software being open source. Some things I learned about this issue in the last few days: 1. If you want Adobe Flash, Skype, Google Earth or many other proprietary programs to run then you need a 32-bit environment Any sensible 64 bit distro will come with the 32 bit libraries (and install them by default) side by side with the 64 bit libraries. I use Fedora and it does just that. With the 32 bit libraries installed, 32 bit programs should run as normal. I have Google Earth and it runs perfectly. I have proprietary games (Quake IV, Doom 3, Neverwinter Nights, all 32 bit only) and they run just fine. I have Cedega (to run windows games (all 32 bit)) and it runs... adequately. I have not tried Skype. Adobe Flash is slightly different. It requires the 32 bit version of firefox or it will not work at all. This is not a big deal. Simply uninstall the 64 bit firefox and install the 32 bit firefox. On Fedora using yum, the commands are simply: sudo yum remove firefox.x86_64 sudo yum install firefox.i386 and install the flash plugin as normal. If you are installing the downloaded plugin (ie, not from a repository or rpm), you may need to fool the install program into thinking it is running on a 32 bit system. (It is programmed to fail if it detects a 64 bit system) From memory the command becomes something like: linux32 ./nameofflashinstaller 2. OpenOffice wasn't ported to amd64. My install of Open Office reports being the x86_64 architecture. I may be remembering things wrong, but I am sure that it has always been 64 bit. 3. It is VERY EASY to setup a useable 32-bit chroot environment which will make things run almost transparently for you (mount --bind and schroot magic :). I have not yet had to use this technique yet, as just about everything has worked without resorting to such techniques, although it is good to know that there is another avenue I can try should I get really stuck. I recall this was recommended when Cedega was having troubles with 64 bit systems, but the guys at Transgaming fixed the problem before I even got around to trying it. To sum - you might have some learning to do but it'll work. 4. finally, is my method good? ie, would i better off just getting a windows computer and then installing ubuntu from a CD (i am not a natively brilliant adept at computers, so my way forward will have to be with lots of good books, good advice and support) I'm always in favour of installing the OS yourself if you can. It's
Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought
You know I went down to the local store, they built a machine and I booted Ubuntu live and then paid for it. This really was a commodity type machine for my son but most of the time Linux just works now. -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Phone/PDA recommendations
Hi, Can anyone recommend a phone that syncs easily with Linux and has a reasonable battery life. I saw that Pia had a Palm but the new ones seem to run Windows Mobile. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Trent Murray (Side Note to Simon Males - a can on a string does not constitute a phone) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Phone/PDA recommendations
quote who=Trent Murray Can anyone recommend a phone that syncs easily with Linux and has a reasonable battery life. I saw that Pia had a Palm but the new ones seem to run Windows Mobile. Any suggestions? There are 'w' models and 'p' models. The 'p' ones don't come with Windows Mobile. :-) - Jeff -- OSCON 2007: Portland OR, USAhttp://conferences.oreillynet.com/oscon/ Imagine a four million line code base that is based on C++, uses threads, a hundred shared libraries, and is over a gigabyte in size when built and then point a debugger at it that was designed to debug GNU sed. - Chris Blizzard on Mozilla -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Slightly OT
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 09:24:32PM +0930, Glen Turner wrote: On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 18:51 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: I found a USB to DB9M RS-232 Converter at jaycar. My problem is, the serial ports on the DL are 3.3v. Will these devices handle that properly ? I don't know about the device, but generally 3.3V refers to a Low Voltage TTL signal: Asserted output 2.4V Asserted input 2.0V Non-asserted output 0.4V Non-asserted input 0.8V (from memory, you'd better check these) RS-232 signals are different: Asserted output -15V to -5V Asserted input -25V to -3V Undefined-3V to +3V Non-asserted output +5V to +15V Non-asserted input +3V to +25V (again from memory) Pumping a RS-232 signal into a LVTTL chip isn't going to be pretty. And just using the output is going to be problematic too, the load will cause current to rise beyond the spec of the output device. My fault, not talking the right lingo - but I new I was on the right list So you need a LVTTL/RS-232 buffer. There's plenty of chips, designs kits and even pre-built PCBs around. I'd have a quick hunt through the online shops selling PICs, since 3.3V-level RS-232-protocol is a common way of programming those. This is what I gathered from the openwrt web site, they also mentioned that you could buy the prebuilt ones, or use some old mobile phone data cables. Plan B would be the buy the part you actually wanted, a USB to LVTTL-level RS232-protocol converter. Again, see the PIC suppliers like Dontronics. Note that these often don't work with Linux. I had to make one myself by buying a Linux-supported USB-RS232 dongle and ripping off its LVTTL/RS-232 buffer -- given where you are at I wouldn't recommend that approach. Plan C is to order a MAX3232 and make that router talk real RS-232. Our own Rod has done that [1] for the WRT-54G. a friend has offered to build one [1] http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/wrt54gs/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Rusty migration + downtime, 20/07/2007 @ 1500 - 1800
Lindsay, We're migrating SLUG's server Rusty to a new machine in the Solutions First rack. You should name the new machine, StarlightExpress! DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/07/2007 08:28:21 PM: I was wondering if there is anyone here who could help me by looking at the quote below (from pioneer) and telling me if there are any obvious specs that jump out and strike the reader as odd, or as overkill, or under-resourced, or in any other way out of balance.. i'm a newbie who is attracted to this deal because it comes with ubuntu pre-installed (the only one, as far as i know, available to me in australia) BUT! i want to be sure that everything will work when i get it, bc i want to hit the ground running with my ubuntu experience so, specifically: 1. if a company like pioneer says it will pre-install ubuntu, can one be reasonably sure that they bed all the software in and test drive it in the factory before shipping it to me? 2. can i expect that there will be no compatibility issues 3. how important is the 64/32 bit issue? 4. finally, is my method good? ie, would i better off just getting a windows computer and then installing ubuntu from a CD (i am not a natively brilliant adept at computers, so my way forward will have to be with lots of good books, good advice and support) thanks heaps, rufi here's the info: DreamVision Power Core2 PC Configuration Summary Processor Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4G 4M Cache 1066M FSB Processor PC Memory 2GB (2 x 1GB) 800MHz DDR2 RAM MotherBoard Intel P965 Chip Set LGA775 Mother Board DP965LTck Graphics nVidia GeForce 8600GT 256MB PCI Express Graphics Card Sound Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio 2nd Graphics None 3.5 Hard Disk 320GB 7,200RPM Serial-ATA Hard Drive 3.5 Hard Disk 2 None 3.5 Hard Disk 3 None HD Partition Single Partition 5.25 Optical Drive 16x DVD-/+RW Dual Layer Drive Network Adapter Integrated 10/100/1000M Ethernet LAN IDE RAID ( for same HD only) None Wireless PCI Card None 5.25 Optical Drive 2 16x DVD-Rom Drive Modem 56K V.90 Internal Modem Floppy Drive 1.44MB 3.5 Internal Floppy Drive Card Reader None TV Tuner None PC Monitor Chi Mei CMV 946D 19 Wide Screen 2ms WXGA (1440 X 900) LCD Monitor Projector None PC Keyboard/Mouse Microsoft Basic PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Value Pack MFC, Printer BROTHER DCP-130C Piezo Colour Inkjet Flatbed Digital 4 in 1 Multi-Function Centre Ext. Speakers 5.1 Channel Surround Speaker System with Subwoofer Case DreamVision MiDi Tower 400w ATX Case 3326 Operating System Ubantu Linux OS Pre-loaded Warranty Pioneer DreamCare 1 Year On-Site Pickup and Return Warranty Production Lead Time Standard Order, Ready in 3-5 Working Days Freight Star Track Road Express (for all PC with Monitor, up to 20kg per box, Australia wide. reference only) RRP (Ex-GST) $1,820 GST $182 Total Amount $2,002 I won't go into the specifics of your proposed machine except to say I have a laptop from Pioneer preloaded with Ubuntu and I am very happy with both the machine and Pioneer's service. Mine's an AMD Turion 64 bit dual core, FWIW. David NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. They may contain legally privileged or copyright material. You should not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then please delete both messages. This notice should not be removed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Atheros Mini PCI card
Hi Anybody know where i can buy one of these ? Thanks Alex signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] re: Not good publicity for Linux, is it?
At 12:35 PM 23/07/2007, Zhasper wrote: On 23/07/07, Tom Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... reference the originals from their web sites ... It sounds like you're saying that a convenient way to reduce load on your own server is to make it some random third party's problem. ... It was not a random third party I was referring to, but sponsors who had not only authorized, but demanded, the use of their logo. Given a choice, I expect these organisations would rather you used the official version of their logo, than make your own copies. Caching should result in a minimal increase in load on their server. Ideally (for the sponsor) the reader will click on the link and go to the sponsor's web site and so would have been downloading the original of the logo anyway. The Australian Government logo (Commonwealth Arms) has not been optimized for online use http://www.tomw.net.au/2003/epolicy.html#edocs. But you have to be careful with what you do with the Commonwealth Arms, as there are strict guidelines for its use http://www.pmc.gov.au/guidelines/commonwealth_coat_arms.cfm. I once had to tell the staff of a government minister that they couldn't have the commonwealth arms as a background pattern on the minister's web page. Sticking the MPs face over the top of the pre-eminent symbol of the power and authority of the Commonwealth Government did not seem to be appropriate. By the way I had a message from the Technical Director at Australian Screen, pointing out that they were not throwing hardware at the problem, as media repots suggested, but instead optimizing the server software (which is the sensible thing to do). In the case of the film archive I suggested offering fewer films per web page. They might also change the default setting for the media player from Broadband to Dialup and so it does not start downloading content by default. At present the media player will start downloading the broadband content as soon as you go to a clip web page, in anticipation you want to play it. If you don't want to play it, or want to dialup version, that is a waste. Tom Worthington FACS HLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 0419 496150 Director, Tomw Communications Pty LtdABN: 17 088 714 309 PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617http://www.tomw.net.au/ Visiting Fellow, ANU Blog: http://www.tomw.net.au/blog/atom.xml -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] re: Not good publicity for Linux, is it?
On 23/07/07, Tom Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:35 PM 23/07/2007, Zhasper wrote: On 23/07/07, Tom Worthington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... reference the originals from their web sites ... It sounds like you're saying that a convenient way to reduce load on your own server is to make it some random third party's problem. ... It was not a random third party I was referring to, but sponsors who had not only authorized, but demanded, the use of their logo. In that case, I completely misread your intention, and I apologise. Given a choice, I expect these organisations would rather you used the official version of their logo, than make your own copies. Caching should result in a minimal increase in load on their server. Ideally (for the sponsor) the reader will click on the link and go to the sponsor's web site and so would have been downloading the original of the logo anyway. The Australian Government logo (Commonwealth Arms) has not been optimized for online use http://www.tomw.net.au/2003/epolicy.html#edocs. But you have to be careful with what you do with the Commonwealth Arms, as there are strict guidelines for its use http://www.pmc.gov.au/guidelines/commonwealth_coat_arms.cfm. I once had to tell the staff of a government minister that they couldn't have the commonwealth arms as a background pattern on the minister's web page. Sticking the MPs face over the top of the pre-eminent symbol of the power and authority of the Commonwealth Government did not seem to be appropriate. By the way I had a message from the Technical Director at Australian Screen, pointing out that they were not throwing hardware at the problem, as media repots suggested, but instead optimizing the server software (which is the sensible thing to do). In the case of the film archive I suggested offering fewer films per web page. They might also change the default setting for the media player from Broadband to Dialup and so it does not start downloading content by default. At present the media player will start downloading the broadband content as soon as you go to a clip web page, in anticipation you want to play it. If you don't want to play it, or want to dialup version, that is a waste. Tom Worthington FACS HLM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 0419 496150 Director, Tomw Communications Pty LtdABN: 17 088 714 309 PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617http://www.tomw.net.au/ Visiting Fellow, ANU Blog: http://www.tomw.net.au/blog/atom.xml -- There is nothing more worthy of contempt than a man who quotes himself - Zhasper, 2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought
Rooty Hill Computer Paramedics are selling $399 towers prepackaged with Ubuntu or some linux and Open Office. Chris - Original Message - From: Ken Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] buying new linux dedicated PC, advice sought You know I went down to the local store, they built a machine and I booted Ubuntu live and then paid for it. This really was a commodity type machine for my son but most of the time Linux just works now. -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] WAN link optimisation
Hey sluggers, Anyone have any pointers to open source projects (or features of projects) around WAN link optimisation? I'm specifically looking for a way of duplicating traffic across multiple links to avoid resends on high latency links, but I'm interested in the whole area. Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
