[SLUG] [OT] M$ still rates OSS/Linux as their number one threat
Slightly OT and old news, but interesting to see that Micro$oft is still rating OSS/Linux as their number one threat in their most recent SEC Quarterly Filing: ... In recent years, certain open source software business models have evolved into a growing challenge to our license-based software model. Open source commonly refers to software whose source code is subject to a license allowing it to be modified, combined with other software and redistributed, subject to restrictions set forth in the license. A number of commercial firms compete with us using an open source business model by modifying and then distributing open source software to end users at nominal cost and earning revenue on complementary services and products. These firms do not have to bear the full costs of research and development for the software. A prominent example of open source software is the Linux operating system http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312507225854/d10q.htm#toc29077_11 -- Sonia Hamilton -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bounce in evolution
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:00 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to bounce mail with evolution (gutsy) as per http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ResendingMailWithHeaders Anybody able to offer any help? Please I do NOT want to resend, see the link for all the reasons. I fear that I'll just have to revert to kmail complete with crashes! Yes I googled for a couple of hours :-) James That link also tells you how to do it; from the Message menu, Forward As... - Redirect. No, how evolution once-upon-a-time could do it. Select actions ... ooops None of the current redirect options 'bounce' The redirect option from the Forward As submenu sends to new recipient(s) leaving all headers intact. If that's not the bounce you're looking for, what is? OK I take a mail to me and 'redirect' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Mary, I open the mail which says: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (resent as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Wow! bizare! Now the same mail form maxine to jam bounced to mary (in kmail, done properley) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... THAT's a bounce. jam is not mentioned in mary's mail James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] bounce in evolution
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 14:13 +0900, jam wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 12:00 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to bounce mail with evolution (gutsy) as per http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ResendingMailWithHeaders Anybody able to offer any help? Please I do NOT want to resend, see the link for all the reasons. I fear that I'll just have to revert to kmail complete with crashes! Yes I googled for a couple of hours :-) James That link also tells you how to do it; from the Message menu, Forward As... - Redirect. No, how evolution once-upon-a-time could do it. Select actions ... ooops None of the current redirect options 'bounce' The redirect option from the Forward As submenu sends to new recipient(s) leaving all headers intact. If that's not the bounce you're looking for, what is? OK I take a mail to me and 'redirect' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] As Mary, I open the mail which says: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (resent as [EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Wow! bizare! Now the same mail form maxine to jam bounced to mary (in kmail, done properley) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... THAT's a bounce. jam is not mentioned in mary's mail I wouldn't call it a bounce if it's rewriting the From: header (although evolution does add a new Envelope-From: header that things like Outlook can pick up on). I just tried the same procedure the guys at http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ResendingMailWithHeaders recommend for kmail; copy the message to a Sent folder, then select it, go to the Message menu and Edit as New Message. That seems to preserve all but the Received (and From) headers from the original message. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [OT] M$ still rates OSS/Linux as their number one threat
Sonia Hamilton wrote: Slightly OT and old news, but interesting to see that Micro$oft is still rating OSS/Linux as their number one threat in their most recent SEC Quarterly Filing: ... In recent years, certain “open source” software business models have evolved into a growing challenge to our license-based software model. Open source commonly refers to software whose source code is subject to a license allowing it to be modified, combined with other software and redistributed, subject to restrictions set forth in the license. A number of commercial firms compete with us using an open source business model by modifying and then distributing open source software to end users at nominal cost and earning revenue on complementary services and products. These firms do not have to bear the full costs of research and development for the software. A prominent example of open source software is the Linux operating system http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312507225854/d10q.htm#toc29077_11 There is an enormous amount of information available under http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/ There are PDF docs detailing disagreements between the IRS and MS with requests for explanations and all sorts of things. It would be nice to grep for Linux and Open Source in that entire directory. Also under http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/00/ there is quite a lot. Though directory browsing for http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/ is not allowed. Mike -- Michael Lake -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
