[SLUG] wireless broadband?
So, who uses wireless broadband here? I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. My contenders at the moment are Virgin, Optus, and Telstra (Bigpond). The limitation is that I need it working on a boat, and I only have one limited 240v supply. So I'd prefer it to be a USB stick type approach. I'm interested in any success/failure stories if anyone has them. -- Del Babel Com Australia http://www.babel.com.au/ ph: 02 9966 9476 fax: 02 9906 2864 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Del wrote: So, who uses wireless broadband here? Have used. Don't currently use (it was an experiment that we decided not to go ahead with). I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. My experience was that it was pretty simple: http://www.mega-nerd.com/erikd/Blog/Tech/telstra_nextg.html My contenders at the moment are Virgin, Optus, and Telstra (Bigpond). Normally i would advise against getting internet connectivity from a telephone company but in the case of wireless broadband that can't be helped :-). The limitation is that I need it working on a boat, and I only have one limited 240v supply. So I'd prefer it to be a USB stick type approach. Even the USB devices are usually serial modems inside so they can be set up like the telstra nextg device I played with. Cheers, Erik -- - Erik de Castro Lopo - Will the last person leaving Redmond please turn off all the lights. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
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Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Del wrote: So, who uses wireless broadband here? I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. My contenders at the moment are Virgin, Optus, and Telstra (Bigpond). The limitation is that I need it working on a boat, and I only have one limited 240v supply. So I'd prefer it to be a USB stick type approach. I'm interested in any success/failure stories if anyone has them. I am very happy with my I-Burst bridge which plugs into a router or provides ethernet directly so, no issue about linux. It is Wireless but not claiming mobility. I have used the device/account in Sydney and Canberra but it may not work when travelling at speed. There is a PCMCIA option, not sure about USB or coverage out at sea or elsewhere. I gave up on Unwired a few years back...in the interests of the environment you would be welcome to the modem, replacement modem they sent me and the attena I bought to try to improve reception. This equipment might be useless anyway as they have been promising WiMax but I don't know if this has happened or will happen since the company and its spectrum were bought by Channel 7 recently. Info on both at http://www.bigair.com.au/ Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Hi Del, I use mobile broadband with the 3 network. It was by far the best value 18 months ago when I got it. I have been very happy with the speed, availability. Its had about 3 major outages in that period of 1-4 hours. None in the last 6 months though. I got have the PCI Express modem and originally was using it on a windoze laptop. I have since seen the light and converted to Ubuntu and mainly use a regular PC with a WIFI card. I bought a Wireless router from Netcomm that takes the PCI express card. They now have releases a new model that accepts USB modems and PCI express card modems. Make: Netcomm Model is N3G002W http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/3g/n3g002w They sell for under $200 and I think are a good option, I realise you have power issues though. Is there anyway you can rig up a solot panel to trickle feed a dry cell battery to power your laptop as the laptop battery could handle that lifestyle better than the router. Food for thought. Tony On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Del [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, who uses wireless broadband here? I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. My contenders at the moment are Virgin, Optus, and Telstra (Bigpond). The limitation is that I need it working on a boat, and I only have one limited 240v supply. So I'd prefer it to be a USB stick type approach. I'm interested in any success/failure stories if anyone has them. -- Del Babel Com Australia http://www.babel.com.au/ ph: 02 9966 9476 fax: 02 9906 2864 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Tony Cosentino m: 0407 156 210 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Andrew Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 16:01 +1000, Del wrote: So, who uses wireless broadband here? Not telco, but I can put in a brief mention of Unwired. One of the cafes in town just got an access point (yeay) provisioned by Unwired (oh). It's only been installed for a couple weeks, but I am rather underwhelmed. It's ok for email, but I was trying to to get some remote systems administration done this morning, and it was a most unpleasant experience - poor latency and worse, dropping connections. This has also been my experience with Unwired. jml -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 16:01 +1000, Del wrote: So, who uses wireless broadband here? Not telco, but I can put in a brief mention of Unwired. One of the cafes in town just got an access point (yeay) provisioned by Unwired (oh). It's only been installed for a couple weeks, but I am rather underwhelmed. It's ok for email, but I was trying to to get some remote systems administration done this morning, and it was a most unpleasant experience - poor latency and worse, dropping connections. The limitation is that I need it working on a boat It may seem overkill, but depending how far offshore you're heading don't screw around, just get an Inmarsat terminal. [I've got an old Nera Worldphone Mini-M terminal for sale, if anyone wants it :) I used it quite successfully in remote locations in Europe. You'd need your own service provider account, of course] AfC Sydney -- Andrew Frederick Cowie Operational Dynamics is an operations and engineering consultancy focusing on IT strategy, organizational architecture, systems review, and effective procedures for change management. We actively carry out research and development in these areas on behalf of our clients, and enable successful use of open source in their mission critical enterprises, worldwide. http://www.operationaldynamics.com/ Sydney New York Toronto London signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
$quoted_author = Tony Cosentino ; I use mobile broadband with the 3 network. It was by far the best value 18 months ago when I got it. It still is one of the best value wise with the caveat that you are only going to be using it in metro areas with 3 coverage. Once you start roaming it's no longer included in your cap and the per MB charge can add up quickly. If I know Del, he'll be sailing outside of 3's coverage because the fish bite better in those kinds of places. :-) cheers Marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Wireless Broadband
I'm currently using Virgin Broadband/Home Phone bundle. Not the best I'm afraid. Service is very flaky. The router admin console is web based, so OS is not a problem. their customer service is woeful. Check whirlpool. - Regards Phil I Like to take on my problems one at a time, but, they refuse to line up -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] eee pc 900 (20080709)
Jacinta, Apologies for the top posting. For some reason my Evolution mailer refuses to allow me to reply without locking up so I have had to resort to mail2web. I am an Asus reseller and have been aggrieved to find that the Linux based 901 is not being imported into Australia, probably because in the scheme of things, our market is very small. So it's 901 for Windows (with bluetooth and 12Gb HDD) and 900 for Linux (no bluetooth and 20Gb HDD). I took delivery of my 900 Linux unit on Monday and I am not disappointed. The extra ram and HDD is a godsend (4Gb for system and 15Gb for home - 1Gb for recovery I think). The 9 screen makes all of the difference in the world in the usability stakes. Microphone in lid beside the webcam and speakers underneath. Battery lasts at least twice as long as before. In Oz, we never did see the selection of colours that have been available (pink, green, blue etc) so I guess we are stuck with whatever Asus Australia thinks they can sell comfortably. Regards, Rick Phillips Original Message: - From: Jacinta Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:46:52 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], slug@slug.org.au Subject: Re: [SLUG] eee pc 900 (20080709) David Andresen wrote: Have you considered the eeepc 901 ( linux installed) ? You may have to wait a bit. Do you know how long? I've spoken to ASUS and they've recommended retailers who haven't even heard of the Linux one. Apparently it might not be released in Australia yet, but ASUS wasn't able to tell me that. I've spent the last month looking for someone in Australia selling the 901 with Linux pre-installed to no avail. I could buy it from Hong Kong, but that'll cost me an additional $100AUD which seems kind of pointless, seeing as how I can get the Windows 901 already and just buy an SD card. J -- (`-''-/).___..--''`-._ | Jacinta Richardson | `6_ 6 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) | Perl Training Australia| (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' | +61 3 9354 6001| _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (il),-'' (li),' ((!.-' | www.perltraining.com.au | -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Tony Cosentino wrote: Hi Del, I use mobile broadband with the 3 network. It was by far the best value 18 months ago when I got it. I have been very happy with the speed, availability. Its had about 3 major outages in that period of 1-4 hours. None in the last 6 months though. I got have the PCI Express modem and originally was using it on a windoze laptop. I have since seen the light and converted to Ubuntu and mainly use a regular PC with a WIFI card. I bought a Wireless router from Netcomm that takes the PCI express card. They now have releases a new model that accepts USB modems and PCI express card modems. Make: Netcomm Model is N3G002W http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/3g/n3g002w They sell for under $200 and I think are a good option, I realise you have power issues though. Is there anyway you can rig up a solot panel to trickle feed a dry cell battery to power your laptop as the laptop battery could handle that lifestyle better than the router. Yes, I already have an 85W solar cell and a 120W wind generator which will probably be upgraded to 2 x 90W and 400W respectively, and I have a 12V laptop charger so I can run the laptop and USB hub from the 12V. There are 4 x 105Ah deep cycle batteries on board so plenty of 12V power. The problem is that I have *one* 240V outlet and the inverter is only rated to 400W, so I don't want to go powering routers and things with it as I will almost certainly need it for other things (charging the shaver and electric drill batteries, for example, which I don't have 12V chargers for). I may look at 3, but the N3G002W is only an option if I can run it off 12V. Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Marghanita da Cruz wrote: I am very happy with my I-Burst bridge which plugs into a router or provides ethernet directly so, no issue about linux. It is Wireless but not claiming mobility. I have used the device/account in Sydney and Canberra but it may not work when travelling at speed. There is a PCMCIA option, not sure about USB or coverage out at sea or elsewhere. Heh. At speed for me means 10 knots. 20km/h or thereabouts. That's running downwind with a couple of knots of current. I couldn't find any info about the bridge hardware. What sort of power adapter does it have? It probably has a 240v plug pack that plugs into a small round power connector on the back of the bridge unit itself. Can you look at that and tell me what voltage output it is and whether it's AC or DC? Thanx for the info so far, Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
This one time, at band camp, Del wrote: The problem is that I have *one* 240V outlet and the inverter is only rated to 400W, so I don't want to go powering routers and things with it as I will almost certainly need it for other things (charging the shaver and electric drill batteries, for example, which I don't have 12V chargers for). I'm assuming you're using a laptop then. If it takes the mini-PCI cards, there are internal HDSPA (3G) cards. Otherwise the little USB ones. I've heard they work okay, but never used one. I may look at 3, but the N3G002W is only an option if I can run it off 12V. As has been said, once you roam out of capital cities you're on Telstra at bend-over-and-take-me rates. You might be better going with Telstra direct on their NextG. It does get longer distance. If all you want is email, there are packet radio options on HF radio. Not gonna be watching any YouTube though. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Because geeks travel too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. - George Bernard Shaw -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Andrew Cowie wrote: It may seem overkill, but depending how far offshore you're heading don't screw around, just get an Inmarsat terminal. I'm still waiting for the prices to drop on these. Typically you're paying $1/kb for traffic which is unreasonable. I'm happy with HF radio offshore and that gives me text email with no attachments. I'm looking for something I can use inshore, at marinas and the such like and mostly in coverage zones, as well as while travelling (e.g. on a train or vehicle, on-shore). Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: I'm assuming you're using a laptop then. If it takes the mini-PCI cards, there are internal HDSPA (3G) cards. Otherwise the little USB ones. I've heard they work okay, but never used one. Yes, I am, and I should have pointed out earlier that it doesn't take PCMCIA cards at all. It's an older model Panasonic toughbook, hence waterproof, and the PCMCIA slots aren't waterproof. It does have an external USB hub (only one USB port) and that's got a spare slot, so I'll look at a USB modem. It's also got wifi on board as well as an ethernet port. As has been said, once you roam out of capital cities you're on Telstra at bend-over-and-take-me rates. You might be better going with Telstra direct on their NextG. It does get longer distance. I'm beginning to come to that conclusion, but I'm wary of the fact that NextG is 30c/MB for downloads over the limit. I'd prefer a capped/throttled plan such as Virgin offer, but comments have been made about their customer service and useability. If all you want is email, there are packet radio options on HF radio. Not gonna be watching any YouTube though. Yeah, I'm familiar with the packet radio thing. To be honest, while at sea I've never found that much use for it (bouncing around too much), but it's good to have as a backup. Even for weather data files I find I'm better off just taking notes on the HF weather via voice channel and drawing lines and circles on my charts to represent the fronts and H/L systems that they mention. Thanks for the info though. Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Quoting Del [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So, who uses wireless broadband here? I'm currently researching the available alternatives and although Virgin appears the cheapest they also appear to have limited coverage and none of the vendors provide (a) Linux support or (b) an offer of your money back if you can't get it working on Linux. I actually don't have any wired internet - going only on 3's mobile internet. No complaints about the service or cost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/m) and it works fine at 110km/h while the wife is driving. For using with Linux, one thing you should be aware of is that the vendors/carriers will know not much about the technology they are selling. There are actually big changes here (in the last few months) technology wise, with new 3G routers becoming available. They work just like an adsl router only you plug in the sim card from your mobile phone. So I wouldn't imagine any difficulties running linux. here is a link... to one example... http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/taxid;345396484;pid;5301 Cheaper ones (generic) ones are available in Shenzhen/China and Taiwan. Good thing about 3 is the roaming.. you can use the internet in HongKong, UK, Germany, France, Malaysia etc and it is s ss much cheaper than pumping 1 euro coins into and internet cafe for 3 mins.. omg... how i hate that... even with roaming rates on 3 for me it's only 25-50c at a time... but don't go over the download limit... then they hit ya real easy for an extra coupla hundred bucks. oh well tax-deductible anyway Good Luck David -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] eee pc 900 (20080709)
From what I have read to date there is quite a bit of demand in Europe for the eeepc. I read that the 901 was release ca. 20 June 2008 according to some reports. It is difficult to know what impact the competitors will have on eeepc sales. There are many similar ultra portables, MSI wind, Cloud, HP2133, Medion, to name a few. I am guessing the picture will be clearer towards the end of the third quarter this year. Those who wait for something good, never wait too long old Swedish saying. David Andresen On Thursday 10 July 2008 15:46:52 Jacinta Richardson wrote: David Andresen wrote: Have you considered the eeepc 901 ( linux installed) ? You may have to wait a bit. Do you know how long? I've spoken to ASUS and they've recommended retailers who haven't even heard of the Linux one. Apparently it might not be released in Australia yet, but ASUS wasn't able to tell me that. I've spent the last month looking for someone in Australia selling the 901 with Linux pre-installed to no avail. I could buy it from Hong Kong, but that'll cost me an additional $100AUD which seems kind of pointless, seeing as how I can get the Windows 901 already and just buy an SD card. J -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] eee pc 900 (20080709)
BTW, I understand that one can pre-order eeepc 901 but do they state a delivery date? I am actively looking for the eeepc linux version as it comes with the larger (20GB) SSD for the same money as the 12GB windows version. When I discover a supplier I will tell. I understand that GST for parcels coming into Australia applies to goods valued over AUD 2000.00. Would an imported eeepc from HK cost roughly the same then? David On Thursday 10 July 2008 15:46:52 Jacinta Richardson wrote: David Andresen wrote: Have you considered the eeepc 901 ( linux installed) ? You may have to wait a bit. Do you know how long? I've spoken to ASUS and they've recommended retailers who haven't even heard of the Linux one. Apparently it might not be released in Australia yet, but ASUS wasn't able to tell me that. I've spent the last month looking for someone in Australia selling the 901 with Linux pre-installed to no avail. I could buy it from Hong Kong, but that'll cost me an additional $100AUD which seems kind of pointless, seeing as how I can get the Windows 901 already and just buy an SD card. J -- Registered GNU/Linux User #155349 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: eee pc 900 (20080709)
Hi On Thursday 10 July 2008 14:14:30 David Andresen wrote: From what I have read to date there is quite a bit of demand in Europe for the eeepc. I read that the 901 was release ca. 20 June 2008 according to some reports. It's true enough in England. For example in a country where hardly anyone is properly trained on IT and the local PC store which might be PC World (for example) which is hated by a lot of people for it's incompetence is shifting pallet loads of EeePCs for about £250 to £300 each. Not quite sure what that is in Oz dollars... about $514 to $617 I think... http://www.pcworld.co.uk/ It's very unusual for this kind of retail chain to shift large piles of EeePCs with Linux installed. They are trying to move XP versions off the shelf but that doesn't seem to work too well :) -- Richard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] wireless broadband?
Del wrote: Marghanita da Cruz wrote: I am very happy with my I-Burst bridge which plugs into a router or provides ethernet directly so, no issue about linux. It is Wireless but not claiming mobility. I have used the device/account in Sydney and Canberra but it may not work when travelling at speed. There is a PCMCIA option, not sure about USB or coverage out at sea or elsewhere. Heh. At speed for me means 10 knots. 20km/h or thereabouts. That's running downwind with a couple of knots of current. I couldn't find any info about the bridge hardware. What sort of power adapter does it have? It probably has a 240v plug pack that plugs into a small round power connector on the back of the bridge unit itself. Can you look at that and tell me what voltage output it is and whether it's AC or DC? snip My I-burst bridge gizmo is a few years old. There is more [current?] information on the modem options including a USB modem here: http://www.iburst.com.au/?deviceofferings=overview1whatisit=deviceofferingsmain=whatisitappCode=; Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] enigmail problem
I have enigmail working perfectly on my 32bit version of Ubuntu 8.04. I wish to get it working on my 64 bit version and import the keys I use. I have used the same user so that Thunderbird and enigmail use the same config files but when I get an encrypted email I get the error message Enigmail: Enigmime service not available. Either fix the problem or uninstall enigmail... Is enigmail available for x86_64? Any help appreciated Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: eee pc 900 (20080709)
This one time, at band camp, Richard Ibbotson wrote: PC World (for example) which is hated by a lot of people for it's incompetence They're hated with very good reason. If you've heard the stories of Best Buy high-pressure say-anything-to-make-the-sale tactics, this place is very much in that league. This guy managed to get over a hundred thousand quid out of them through the courts. Hilarious! http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/A187_04.html It's very unusual for this kind of retail chain to shift large piles of EeePCs with Linux installed. They are trying to move XP versions off the shelf but that doesn't seem to work too well :) They wouldn't really care, to be honest. It would all depend on the profit margin, and how many ancillary sales they can make alongside the laptop. I'm sure they'd be pushing their worthless extended warranties, external mouse and keyboard, laptop bags etc etc. On the issue of GST being levied on private imports: there's no published lower limit, but they don't tend to hassle you for them to stop a shipment and charge GST when it's books, CDs, t-shirts or similar in small quantities. If it comes in via one of the big courier companies (DHL, Fedex) you're more likely to get it stopped, but having Computer written on the customs declaration kinda guarantees it'll get stopped by any route. The problem here is that customs apply a 20% uplift to the invoiced price before applying GST as they assume you're getting it at wholesale prices (despite the fact you're only buying one), so you end up paying 32% GST! -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Nerds need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ Cocaine, habit forming? Of course not. I ought to know. I've been using it for years. - Tallulah Bankhead -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: eee pc 900 (20080709)
Richard Ibbotson wrote: It's true enough in England. For example in a country where hardly anyone is properly trained on IT Are there any countries that fit the bill of trained in IT? cheers rickw -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services || Internet Driving Instructor The word genius isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein. -- Joe Theisman, NFL football quarterback and sports analyst -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: eee pc 900 (20080709)
Quoting Rick Welykochy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Richard Ibbotson wrote: It's true enough in England. For example in a country where hardly anyone is properly trained on IT Are there any countries that fit the bill of trained in IT? India ? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] eee pc 900 (20080709)
David Andresen wrote: BTW, I understand that one can pre-order eeepc 901 but do they state a delivery date? I am actively looking for the eeepc linux version as it comes with the larger (20GB) SSD for the same money as the 12GB windows version. When I discover a supplier I will tell. Amazon? http://astore.amazon.com/corporategovernance-20/105-9776965-7574812?%5Fencoding=UTF8node=6 Also, I came across interest in alternate [script] keyboards anyone know what is happening on that front? I assume the Chinese version would be available already. I understand that GST for parcels coming into Australia applies to goods valued over AUD 2000.00. Would an imported eeepc from HK cost roughly the same then? David On Thursday 10 July 2008 15:46:52 Jacinta Richardson wrote: David Andresen wrote: Have you considered the eeepc 901 ( linux installed) ? You may have to wait a bit. Do you know how long? I've spoken to ASUS and they've recommended retailers who haven't even heard of the Linux one. Apparently it might not be released in Australia yet, but ASUS wasn't able to tell me that. I've spent the last month looking for someone in Australia selling the 901 with Linux pre-installed to no avail. I could buy it from Hong Kong, but that'll cost me an additional $100AUD which seems kind of pointless, seeing as how I can get the Windows 901 already and just buy an SD card. J -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
