Re: [SLUG] Linux training certification
Very nice. Will look in to all of these. On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time ago there was a discussion on this...I just came across a few more resources to consider/comment/review: http://www.knoppix.net/linux-certification.php http://www.knoppix.net/linux-training.php http://education-portal.com/articles/10_Sites_Offering_Free_Linux_Courses_Online.html Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- In a world without walls or fences, there would be no need for windows or gates.. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] October Slug Monthly Meeting - Tomorrow
== October SLUG Monthly Meeting == You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at http://www.slug.org.au/node/107 When: 18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 31 October, 2008 We start at 18:30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we can all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18:00, as it may hinder business activities for our host! Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building. Where: Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney (corner of Sussex and Market Street) Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area and directions can be found here[1]. = Talks = ** General Talk ** Mary Gardiner: Precious precious data, keeping it safe the sane way Your data is vulnerable to loss in all kinds of ways, from earthquakes and invasions on down. Home users are most vulnerable to data loss through user error, software failure and media failure. This talk will outline good backup practices for Linux home users who are concerned with keeping their email, homework, code, novel drafts and photos safe for the long term. I will review various tools and approaches for keeping your data safe from all three of user error, software failure and media failure. ** In-Depth Talk ** Ken Yap: Running a production firewall inside a virtual machine for fun, if not profit Can a border firewall be run inside VirtualBox? Is it safe? Why would you want to do such a thing anyway? In this talk I will explain how I installed IPCop, a Linux firewall distro, to run inside a Virtualbox instance on an Ubuntu host. ** SLUGlets ** General discussion and QA about Linux, free software and open source. = Meeting Schedule = See here[2] for an explanation of the segments. * 18:15 : Open Doors * 18:30 : Announcements, News, Introductions * 18:45 : General Talk * 19:30 : Intermission * 19:45 : Split into two groups for * In-depth Talk * SLUGlets * 20:30 : Dinner Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having the $24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of accounting and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the break to confirm the reservation size. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order separately, let us know beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed atmosphere :) We hope to see you there! [0] http://www.atlassian.com [1] http://tinyurl.com/35fxes [2] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat [3] http://www.goldenharbour.com.au/specials.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:01:43PM +1100, Scott Ragen wrote: Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites from their mobile phone? Allow the PARENT to decide if the child needs internet access on their phone AT ALL. Seriously, what child NEEDS internet on their mobile phone? I can think of two uses. :) 1. mapping service 2. www.131500.info (and yes you can call, but only between certain hours :) Though I guess you can counter with 'well they can call' but still, legit kid uses for innanets on the mobile. :) -- Police noticed some rustling sounds from Linn's bottom area and on closer inspection a roll of cash was found protruding from Linn's anus, the full amount of cash taken in the robbery. - http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/robber-hides-loot-up-his-booty/2008/05/09/1210131248617.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
I am really most concerned about all the side effects of filtering that we are yet to uncover. For example: If I hosted on a dynamic IP, although I have been assured that it is unlikely, how would I deal with the event that my IP has been blocked to other users? Could the federal government consider not blocking domestic addresses and actually enforce Australian law on our own turf? What if I ran a VPN on port 80? How do I even know that I'm on the blocked list? What about lesser known sites such as the Internet WayBack machine? Would any objectionable material result in a blanket ban? Robbie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Keeping wife on linux
My wife and I have a shared computer at home, however, I seem to be facing a loosing battle for her experiences with linux to remain pleasant. I am running fedora core 9 with additional packages from the Livna repository Some nuances: * We've not been able to find a way to purchase songs from Yahoo or iTunes. I've tried foxy tunes and wine without much success. * We've had some difficulty with video codecs. Channel nine or ten is using a codec which includes advertisements but only works for Windows Media Player 10+. * I've also played a few DVDs in MPlayer and other players and just get the "Downloading movies is stealing" on continuous repeat. Is there a distro which is more likely to work with proprietary codecs? Or am I just better to stick to FC or possibly Ubuntu and use 3rd party packages as i have been doing? I've been toying with using vmware and running XP SP2, but I think that it would leave me with two systems to maintain rather than one. I may also have to buy a new machine (dual core) to meet the system requirements. Any suggestions? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OSDC 2008 Earlybird registration closing this Friday
Hi everyone, Book by THIS FRIDAY to take advantage of earlybird pricing and be part of the best open source developers conference of the year. And it's in Sydney. http://www.osdc.com.au/2008/registration/index.html?ebc=1 The facts: 31st October Earlybird registration closing 2nd DecemberGoogle Hackathon 3rd - 5th December Conference Program 3rd DecemberConference Dinner Where is it: SMC Conference and Function Centre 66 Goulburn St Sydney NSW 2000 The Main Conference The Open Source Developers' Conference 2008 is a conference run by open source developers, for developers and business people. This year we have talks covering Apache, Java, Ruby, Perl, PHP, Python, Testing and much more. Our keynote speakers this year are: * Larry Wall, the creator of Perl * Chris DiBona, Open Source Programs Manager for Google * Anthony Baxter, Python Evangelist * Pia Waugh, Consultant, Waugh Partners * Andrew Tridgell, Founder, Samba Team Check out the program for more information: http://www.osdc.com.au/2008/papers/index.html?ebc=1 Google Hackathon The day before the main conference, there will be an optional event. The Google Hackathon will consist of 3 coding workshops during the day with attendance limited to a maximum of 100 people/workshop. To register for any of the workshops, you must have registered for the 3 day OSDC 2008 main conference. Thanks to our sponsors: Google, Corporate Express, Sun Microsystems, Strategic Data, Obsidian Consulting Group, IBM, Zacware/Freeway, ACS, Net Logistics, GROX, UTBox, Internode, Linux Magazine Regards Mark Rees OSDC 2008 Committee http://www.osdc.com.au/2008/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] UPDATE: October Slug Monthly Meeting - Tomorrow
== Update == Sorry everyone, we had a slight scheduling mixup in our last announcement. Our General Talk will be given by Jeff Waugh, with Mary Gardiner speaking next month. Apologies for any confusion this may have caused. == Call for Speakers == We need a speaker for our In Depth slot on 28 November. Please let the Committee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) know if you can help out. We especially welcome those who are speaking at OSDC or linux.conf.au and would like to practice with a smaller (and perhaps more friendly) crowd. == October SLUG Monthly Meeting == You can read the full version of this announcement on the Web at http://www.slug.org.au/node/107 When: 18.30 - 20.30, Friday, 31 October, 2008 We start at 18:30 but we ask that people arrive 15 minutes early so we can all get into the building and start on time. Please do not arrive before 18:00, as it may hinder business activities for our host! Appropriate signage and directions will be posted on the building. Where: Atlassian[0], 173-185 Sussex Street, Sydney (corner of Sussex and Market Street) Entry is via the rear on Slip Street. There are stairs going down along the outside of building from Sussex St to near the entrance. A map of the area and directions can be found here[1]. = Talks = ** General Talk ** Jeff Waugh: E-mail Dream Team, Five Years On ** In-Depth Talk ** Ken Yap: Running a production firewall inside a virtual machine for fun, if not profit Can a border firewall be run inside VirtualBox? Is it safe? Why would you want to do such a thing anyway? In this talk I will explain how I installed IPCop, a Linux firewall distro, to run inside a Virtualbox instance on an Ubuntu host. ** SLUGlets ** General discussion and QA about Linux, free software and open source. = Meeting Schedule = See here[2] for an explanation of the segments. * 18:15 : Open Doors * 18:30 : Announcements, News, Introductions * 18:45 : General Talk * 19:30 : Intermission * 19:45 : Split into two groups for * In-depth Talk * SLUGlets * 20:30 : Dinner Dinner is at Golden Harbour Restaurant, in Chinatown. We will be having the $24 Banquet[3], but we will be collecting $25 per head for ease of accounting and to cover a tip. We will be taking numbers during the break to confirm the reservation size. If you have any particular dietary requirements (e.g. vegetarian), or if you would prefer to order separately, let us know beforehand. Dinner is a great way to socialise and learn in a relaxed atmosphere :) We hope to see you there! [0] http://www.atlassian.com [1] http://tinyurl.com/35fxes [2] http://www.slug.org.au/meetings/meetingformat [3] http://www.goldenharbour.com.au/specials.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
On 22/10/2008 10:13 AM, CaT wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:01:43PM +1100, Scott Ragen wrote: Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites from their mobile phone? Allow the PARENT to decide if the child needs internet access on their phone AT ALL. Seriously, what child NEEDS internet on their mobile phone? I can think of two uses. :) 1. mapping service 2. www.131500.info (and yes you can call, but only between certain hours :) Though I guess you can counter with 'well they can call' but still, legit kid uses for innanets on the mobile. :) Is it possible that you are confusing needs with wants. I can't imagine that either of these services are a need. Bloody useful perhaps but IMNSHO not sufficient reason, in isolation, to warrant the use. N/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
Nigel Allen wrote: On 22/10/2008 10:13 AM, CaT wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 04:01:43PM +1100, Scott Ragen wrote: Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites from their mobile phone? Allow the PARENT to decide if the child needs internet access on their phone AT ALL. Seriously, what child NEEDS internet on their mobile phone? I can think of two uses. :) 1. mapping service 2. www.131500.info (and yes you can call, but only between certain hours :) Though I guess you can counter with 'well they can call' but still, legit kid uses for innanets on the mobile. :) Is it possible that you are confusing needs with wants. I can't imagine that either of these services are a need. Bloody useful perhaps but IMNSHO not sufficient reason, in isolation, to warrant the use. We don't *need* lots of things we don't need Macdonalds, iPods, the latest computer, bottled water... but this is the world we live in. But you Canute do without them.:) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] sa/perl Compress::Zlib problems
That looks like something environment-specific, but working out what it is will probably require some back and forth to work it out. The good folks at FreeNode #perl are probably your best bet for this issue. Adam K 2008/10/30 Voytek Eymont [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just put some new rules, and, was trying to test it, when I got[1]: what my best option, apart from ignoring ? [1]# spamassassin --lint Subroutine Compress::Zlib::isaFilehandle redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/Exporter.pm line 65. at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/IO/Compress/Base/Common.pm line 11 Subroutine Compress::Zlib::isaFilename redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/Exporter.pm line 65. at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/IO/Compress/Base/Common.pm line 11 Subroutine Compress::Zlib::ParseParameters redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/Exporter.pm line 65. at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/IO/Compress/Base/Common.pm line 11 Prototype mismatch: sub Compress::Zlib::ParseParameters ($@) vs none at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/Exporter.pm line 65. ... more... -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
Theoretically, I believe the IP thing vs domain thing has been solved now. If we are willing to put aside the evilness of filtering for a second and limit the issue to the technical implementation, I know there are some implementations that use a two-phase filter to deal with IP issues (I think this might include China's) They take the list of block domains, and resolve a set of IPs for them. These IPs are then hijacked via some BGP trickery (although someone more clueful on that aspect would need to describe how) to the filtering servers. These filtering servers, although they receive request/response for all of the hosts that map to the IPs, only do the actual filtering on the basis of domain or URL subpaths. In other words.. If you aren't on a red IP, you never go through filtering at all. If you are a green host on a red IP, your request is slower but still works. If you are a green host with a red subsection, the request is slower but still works. I gather though (since this involves network-fu) that this isn't the sort of technology you can just drop a linux box into the network to implement. But it would seem to at least mitigate some of the computation costs to implement the filtering. Of course, this says nothing whatsoever about the accuracy of the filtering, just that your inaccurate blocking can be implemented with a lower computational cost. Adam K 2008/10/25 Robert Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am really most concerned about all the side effects of filtering that we are yet to uncover. For example: If I hosted on a dynamic IP, although I have been assured that it is unlikely, how would I deal with the event that my IP has been blocked to other users? Could the federal government consider not blocking domestic addresses and actually enforce Australian law on our own turf? What if I ran a VPN on port 80? How do I even know that I'm on the blocked list? What about lesser known sites such as the Internet WayBack machine? Would any objectionable material result in a blanket ban? Robbie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Keeping wife on linux
Robert Barnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My wife and I have a shared computer at home, however, I seem to be facing a loosing battle for her experiences with linux to remain pleasant. I am running fedora core 9 with additional packages from the Livna repository Some nuances: * We've not been able to find a way to purchase songs from Yahoo or iTunes. I've tried foxy tunes and wine without much success. You are extremely unlikely to succeed, and if you do I wouldn't expect that to last for long, since you have to circumvent the security of the software to run it under Linux. Being unable to buy the music may be bad, but I assure you that it will suck an awful lot /more/ when you lose access to it after laying out the money. Personally, I would seek one of the unencumbered vendors who will sell you music /without/ DRM, allowing you to use it on any platform. Your wife's millage may vary on that, though. * We've had some difficulty with video codecs. Channel nine or ten is using a codec which includes advertisements but only works for Windows Media Player 10+. * I've also played a few DVDs in MPlayer and other players and just get the Downloading movies is stealing on continuous repeat. You will probably find another media player is much better suited to DVD playback; I find Xine works well, but more or less anything but mplayer should be fine. On the other hand, you will have a lot more joy just using an appliance to play back the DVD, in my opinion. Is there a distro which is more likely to work with proprietary codecs? Other than the ability to license the Fluendo codecs, no. That would be because, other than that avenue, you are stealing the codecs, so you get no vendor support. https://shop.fluendo.com/ I can't vouch for the quality or utility of the Fluendo kit, or how well it might or might not integrate with your distribution. Or am I just better to stick to FC or possibly Ubuntu and use 3rd party packages as i have been doing? Well, Fedora Core is never going to satisfy your desire for non-free software, by policy. I doubt you would get /much/ more joy out of Ubuntu, although I understand that licensing the Fluendo codecs is possible there. I've been toying with using vmware and running XP SP2, but I think that it would leave me with two systems to maintain rather than one. Also, unless you want to pay for the commercial VMWare Workstation then video playback under Windows is unlikely to satisfy you. I may also have to buy a new machine (dual core) to meet the system requirements. I can't really see why that would be needed. Any suggestions? If your wife isn't willing to accept the trade-offs of running Linux then you are unlikely to satisfy her easily -- because what she wants are (in my opinion) the short term convenience options: For example, buying DRM encumbered music from the stores you mention is easy under Windows, and only hurts later when (say) Walmart shut down their DRM servers and you lose access to your collection. In any case, my response would be to shrug, and let her purchase a computer and license all the desired Windows software out of whatever discretionary spending she has. That way she can decide if these conveniences are worth the thousands of dollars it will cost her to achieve. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
